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where is bela?
i come in this forum to read th posts every now and then when my faves arent online and used to get a kick out of reading the sanctimonious posts by bela70? where the hell is he?
RE: where is bela?
Hmmm first 3 posts & you decide to make your first posts having a go at another.that is the pain.
RE: where is bela?
You mean he is not on a spiritual retreat with you, Pastor?!!!! We must pray indeed!
The moral is...
It was a fortnight after Easter Sunday & the chubby kid on the farm decided that,simply,he couldn't eat one more Easter egg of the many he had been hoarding.So he decided to play a prank.Heading into the chicken coop he replaced every single egg the hens had laid with a brightly colored one.A few minutes later the rooster strutted in,saw all the colored eggs,then stormed outside & killed the peacock.
crazy hosts!
girls i've read some msgs here and i'm shocked!i noticed that chathost thinks that if another girls r less beautiful then her this chathost has many vids.most members said that i was nice but it doesn't seem to have many vids.members have different tastes.and u (chasthosts) respect nobody.all of us have same job.stop to humiliate each other!and as for members i can say that u can't write belittling about chathosts.if u don't like any chathosts keep ur opinion in ur head.u can't go back,but u do that this chathost loses her job.u don't think that may be the chathost has bad mood or have some problems.but she must work.i think it's unregular!ppl think about it pls!
RE: crazy hosts!
Wimmen is born competative, against other womman. And the more beautiful a womman is, the more time she uses on making herselfe even more attractive.
Having respect and manners for others is however something diffrent, something one is not born with, but "teached" through life.
-Take me twice in the morning and call me Doctor Tender-
Having respect and manners for others is however something diffrent, something one is not born with, but "teached" through life.
-Take me twice in the morning and call me Doctor Tender-
RE: crazy hosts!
lol! dont tell us what to do and not do!
If someone complains, then it's cause they pissed off, so if you pissed off and made someone pissed off and write about it, then you shouldn't be pissed off and take it out on innocents!
So if nobody did anything bad and you got pissed off at them, they're more then likely writing a bad review about you because they didnt diserve it, and most probably they DO want you to lose your job!
So becareful when you rude (easy) I dont complain about nor hosts nor members, but i gotta say this, i did get pissed off when i read this topic... I felt like someone trying to command me and tell me what to do!... Everybody has a right to there own oppinion, but no 1 has a right to shut anybody up.. ok?
Peace
If someone complains, then it's cause they pissed off, so if you pissed off and made someone pissed off and write about it, then you shouldn't be pissed off and take it out on innocents!
So if nobody did anything bad and you got pissed off at them, they're more then likely writing a bad review about you because they didnt diserve it, and most probably they DO want you to lose your job!
So becareful when you rude (easy) I dont complain about nor hosts nor members, but i gotta say this, i did get pissed off when i read this topic... I felt like someone trying to command me and tell me what to do!... Everybody has a right to there own oppinion, but no 1 has a right to shut anybody up.. ok?
Peace
RE: crazy hosts!
in the end is a business..the more time a member spends in one hosts vid is less time in anothers..can sometimes be a dog eat dog world
RE: crazy hosts!
don't think please!
i was stating my oppinion too and i wasnt trying to shut anyone up!
lol
i was stating my oppinion too and i wasnt trying to shut anyone up!
lol
RE: crazy hosts!
No matter what complaints---many quite legitimate---women may have about the way men treat them, my observation is that women are infinitely more vicious with each other. Someone here mentioned "dog eat dog" kinda world. In the case of two women it's more like "two cats in a bag."
Bye
Bye Bye Manchester Utd you was well and truely thrashed by the Milan ,,, now my boys will come and take the premiership from you . and the FA Cup ....
RE: Bye
It depend of what war are you talkin' about... History it's full of heroic italians fighters
Women and money
I know this is not the ideal forum for this question... or perhaps it is!!!
Why do women go all giggly and excited when they are getting money from a guy but are aloof and cold otherwise? I know all the obvious answers and quick remarks to this. I am looking for a more considered reply.
Why do women go all giggly and excited when they are getting money from a guy but are aloof and cold otherwise? I know all the obvious answers and quick remarks to this. I am looking for a more considered reply.
RE: Women and money
1. Guys who offer money for friendship, sex and love have little else to offer. Or they see themselves as limited in there offering because of age or some other infirmity.
2. Guys (and gals) associate money with power and popularity because money has always been associated with power and popularity - as far as the love part, refer to my answer on 1.
3. Because the entire world revolves around money.
2. Guys (and gals) associate money with power and popularity because money has always been associated with power and popularity - as far as the love part, refer to my answer on 1.
3. Because the entire world revolves around money.
RE: Women and money
your post is filled with misconceptions & generalizations......and therein lies a tale.
RE: Women and money
That was enlightening. What misconceptions and generalizations that were not aimed at explaining misconceptions and generalizations??
RE: Women and money
RJ,
I agree that Aesop's mere assertion that your post is filled with "misconceptions and generalizations" is not a satisfactory refutation. He should have identified these things and provided an argument for his position.
That said, I must confess I agree with him to some extent. Your claim in number one is no doubt true in some instances, but one could easily provide as many exceptions to this rule as there are instances of it. Your claim, for this reason, really is too general and reductive.
In number two you simply offer a tautolgy. Instead of explaining WHY money is associated with "power and popularity," you simply say it is so because it has always been that way. It's like saying X is associated with Y because X has always been associated with Y. Or, less abstractly, it's like saying, the moon is full every 28 days because the moon has always been full every 28 days. You haven't explained the origin of the phenomenon.
In the main I agree with you about number three, even though one could say it is not the ONLY thing around which the world has revolved. (Try religion, for one). Money has certainly played a central role in man's history. And the history of money is wild. (Precious metals out of the ground, coins, then paper money, electronic transfers....more and more abstract!) Curious isn't it? One economist remarked that "Money is a dream all of mankind is having at the same time." But telling that to the guy at the ticket booth at the movie theatre, won't get you in for free! lol!.....Btw, RJ, could you lend me $20 'til Tuesday? lol!
I agree that Aesop's mere assertion that your post is filled with "misconceptions and generalizations" is not a satisfactory refutation. He should have identified these things and provided an argument for his position.
That said, I must confess I agree with him to some extent. Your claim in number one is no doubt true in some instances, but one could easily provide as many exceptions to this rule as there are instances of it. Your claim, for this reason, really is too general and reductive.
In number two you simply offer a tautolgy. Instead of explaining WHY money is associated with "power and popularity," you simply say it is so because it has always been that way. It's like saying X is associated with Y because X has always been associated with Y. Or, less abstractly, it's like saying, the moon is full every 28 days because the moon has always been full every 28 days. You haven't explained the origin of the phenomenon.
In the main I agree with you about number three, even though one could say it is not the ONLY thing around which the world has revolved. (Try religion, for one). Money has certainly played a central role in man's history. And the history of money is wild. (Precious metals out of the ground, coins, then paper money, electronic transfers....more and more abstract!) Curious isn't it? One economist remarked that "Money is a dream all of mankind is having at the same time." But telling that to the guy at the ticket booth at the movie theatre, won't get you in for free! lol!.....Btw, RJ, could you lend me $20 'til Tuesday? lol!
RE: Women and money
there is no need to,as he even admitted in his reply that he knew it was filled with such.
RE: Women and money
Chatting in vid is considered working?
Jeezzz, I leave my day job only to come to my night job. where can I get some rest and relaxation around here?
Jeezzz, I leave my day job only to come to my night job. where can I get some rest and relaxation around here?
RE: Women and money
Center of the earth? What gave you that impression? You are a crazy one aren't you? Le't s see how many times you use the word "I" in your post, miss I have my own web site.
RE: Women and money
You could never bother me, just asking coz you seem to be the host that posts the most around here.
RE: Women and money
Tis true, host, of all the hosts Charlotte may post the most. But, with all due respect, you are not exactly a 'shrinking violet.' :)
To Charlotte & Host
Let me know if there will be a full-blown cat fight. Perhaps we could start a new category and charge admission!
RE: Women and money
Charlotte, Since you are in Great Britain you could---without offending Windsor Castle---the Royal "we." Then again, as Mark Twain said, "The only people entiltled to use "we" are the King of England and a man with a tapeworm." lol!
RE: Women and money
Don't understand your scenario. If cold and aloof apart from getting money, why would a man send any to her?
RE: Women and money
Why do you care? Find a local woman, not a woman from a culture you can't even begin to understand.
in my opinion
since the dawn of time, women havebeen and are hardwired to seek out a provider to care for them, in this day and age a mans brute strength will be of no use to her survival.
a man with money will give her more safety and security. it is not that they are money hungry, it is a social survival instinct.
a man with money will give her more safety and security. it is not that they are money hungry, it is a social survival instinct.
RE: in my opinion
It's true.
A woman needs a sugar daddy to pay her way and a hunky tennis pro to fine tune her backhand and diddle her kitty at least once a week.
It's science.
A woman needs a sugar daddy to pay her way and a hunky tennis pro to fine tune her backhand and diddle her kitty at least once a week.
It's science.
"Considered Reply"
Stupid Sod,
You asked for a "considered reply." Back in February, a host asked essentially the same question. Here is here original question and my "considered reply."
From: take care Reply New Message
a question for guys 14/Feb/2007 09:55 (GMT)
i wonder how often men accuse women in love for money....and what about men's love for sex? :D
If ur partner is a great person, kind, clever, cute, etc....BUT frigid ( doctors cant help, everything is useless) ...would u marry her then? just curious :D
thx for honest answers in advance :)
Reply
take care,
Thinking a bit more about your interesting question, several things occur to me. First off, I agree it is a widely held belief regarding the politics of sexual relationships---especially marriage---that women are more concerned about money and men about sex. However, it is easy to see how this view developed given the historical realities of relations between the sexes. Up until relatively recently, a woman was regarded as a man’s property, mere chattel, an asset like cattle (from which, btw, the word “chattel” derives.) The idea of a woman having political rights is a very recent development (and still the exception in most non-Western societies), corresponding to the novel romantic notion of a man and a woman marrying for love, i.e. against the practice of arranged marriages and/or the patriarch of a tribe promising his daughter to a member of another tribe, with the understanding that a “bride price” will be paid to the girl’s family. That price is negotiated between the fathers of the prospective couple. The men will quibble over whether the girl is worth two cows or three, for example.
Even as women acquired more political power, they were still largely economically dependent on men. American women got a taste of economic independence during WWII when they worked in the factories (“Rosie the Riveter” is a well known figure to the WWII generation) while their husbands were off to war. But after the war, women again largely assumed the “stay-at-home” mom role. (Indeed the Nazi’s were intent on discouraging women from seeking more political & economic independence with their propaganda campaign of “Kirche, Kuche, Kinde,” [“Church, Kitchen, Children”]). Only in the 60’s did things begin to change as regards women entering the work force in large numbers.
So, it’s understandable why women have placed a high premium on men having money, since few economic opportunities were open to them. (My grandmother left my grandfather in 1929 and went to work in a sewing factory for $12 a week—10 hr days/M-F. It was no picnic!) Thus women’s focus was/is on money and men’s focus, or so the perception goes, was/is on sex. No doubt there is the vestige of belief among men that if they are paying a woman’s way, they are entitled to repayment in the form of sexual gratification.
But it’s not that simple, because this political/economic explanation doesn’t take the biological element into account, even if---as some believe---the economic and political developments are ultimately rooted in the biological differences (of size, strength, mentality) between the sexes. The fact that the males are the pursuers and the females the pursued no doubt contributes to the perception that men are more interested in sex. Among the mammals it is undeniable that the males compete over who will win (or less delicately “mount”) the females in heat. We human beings may be “a little lower than the angels,” (Proverbs), but we have an animal nature as well. Perhaps that’s why most women complain that “All men are beasts,” even if they wouldn’t have it any other way!! Thus the humorous, but hardly complimentary remark I heard made by a woman who said, “Men think with their dicks!”
In sum, these roles and stereotypes are deeply rooted in our evolution as a species. Our consciousness is formed by these developments, hence our perceptions. To what extent all of these things bear on pathologies such as frigidity or impotence seen in individuals is a complicated matter and admittedly is somewhat tangential—but not altogether unrelated---to your question of whether a man would marry a frigid woman. It is not unrelated insofar as your question is premised on the assumption that men are primarily interested in sex and therefore would not marry a frigid woman who is ideal in every other regard. Of course the complementary and equally prejudiced question is to ask a woman if she would marry a man with no money. The unfortunate result of both these questions is that they fail to question the forces that give rise to them. The questions themselves are a function of the underlying dynamic that goes unexamined. The forces are real, true, but there are more fundamental forces at work. Looking at the question of economic security and sexual desire without the prejudicial overlay simplifies somewhat the whole “Love or Money” question.
The matter of economic security is the easiest to answer because there is no ambiguity. We all need to survive. Who, after all, isn’t motivated in a primary way by this need? If mankind was, by some unforeseen calamity, suddenly reduced to his original primitive state and all the economic inequities were stripped away and rendered irrelevant, would not men and women cooperate in an effort to insure their survival? Would each not do what would most likely guarantee their survival and that of their offspring? Would the women not stay put, care for the children, plant a garden and create some sense of home and hearth? (Surely we don’t think she would apply for a job as an “Employee Benefits Coordinator!”) And would the men not go out to hunt and gather to insure that his wife and children would be provided for? And would he not do everything in his power to repel any aggressor that would threaten his person or property? Different roles? Yes, but roles largely determined by biology. These roles Marx described as the “first division of labor.” Roles that have evolved into undeniable inequities were originally a matter of biological necessity. Bottom line: men and women both desire economic security. However, it is an ironic mark of latter day civilization that men and women alike often show a pathological desire for money independent of any concern for their economic security!
The matter of love of sex is a bit more complicated and subject to greater debate. However, it seems clear that the stereotype of men being more interested in it distorts the truth as much as the stereotype of women liking money more. Adding to this prejudice is the aforementioned assumption that men are sexual beasts and women the innocent objects of sexual desire who have no such desire themselves. (This idealization of women is not unrelated to the humorous quip that women don’t fart! I recall—imperfectly---a line from Dylan Thomas, something like, “O Celia, O Celia/ She shits.”) However, when men and women get to know each other this myth is shattered, for men often discover that their woman has a more voracious sexual appetite than their own. Some might even say women like sex more than men. This claim is the subject of an interesting story from Greek Mythology.
The story concerns an argument between Zeus and his wife Hera concerning who enjoys sex more, men or women. Zeus claimed women enjoyed it more and Hera claimed men did. To settle the dispute they summoned Teiresias, (who was born a man, changed into a woman, and back into a man) since only he experienced both. Upon his arrival at Mt. Olympus, he told the feuding couple that women enjoy sex more by saying, “If the parts of love-pleasure be counted as ten, / Thrice three go to women, one only to men.” Hera was outraged and blinded Teiresias, who then was granted inward vision and became a well-known seer.
Whether women enjoy sex more than men, who can say. I suspect some women do, others not. My gut feeling and experience tell me it’s largely a matter of individual passion, not a question of which sex likes sex more.
You asked for a "considered reply." Back in February, a host asked essentially the same question. Here is here original question and my "considered reply."
From: take care Reply New Message
a question for guys 14/Feb/2007 09:55 (GMT)
i wonder how often men accuse women in love for money....and what about men's love for sex? :D
If ur partner is a great person, kind, clever, cute, etc....BUT frigid ( doctors cant help, everything is useless) ...would u marry her then? just curious :D
thx for honest answers in advance :)
Reply
take care,
Thinking a bit more about your interesting question, several things occur to me. First off, I agree it is a widely held belief regarding the politics of sexual relationships---especially marriage---that women are more concerned about money and men about sex. However, it is easy to see how this view developed given the historical realities of relations between the sexes. Up until relatively recently, a woman was regarded as a man’s property, mere chattel, an asset like cattle (from which, btw, the word “chattel” derives.) The idea of a woman having political rights is a very recent development (and still the exception in most non-Western societies), corresponding to the novel romantic notion of a man and a woman marrying for love, i.e. against the practice of arranged marriages and/or the patriarch of a tribe promising his daughter to a member of another tribe, with the understanding that a “bride price” will be paid to the girl’s family. That price is negotiated between the fathers of the prospective couple. The men will quibble over whether the girl is worth two cows or three, for example.
Even as women acquired more political power, they were still largely economically dependent on men. American women got a taste of economic independence during WWII when they worked in the factories (“Rosie the Riveter” is a well known figure to the WWII generation) while their husbands were off to war. But after the war, women again largely assumed the “stay-at-home” mom role. (Indeed the Nazi’s were intent on discouraging women from seeking more political & economic independence with their propaganda campaign of “Kirche, Kuche, Kinde,” [“Church, Kitchen, Children”]). Only in the 60’s did things begin to change as regards women entering the work force in large numbers.
So, it’s understandable why women have placed a high premium on men having money, since few economic opportunities were open to them. (My grandmother left my grandfather in 1929 and went to work in a sewing factory for $12 a week—10 hr days/M-F. It was no picnic!) Thus women’s focus was/is on money and men’s focus, or so the perception goes, was/is on sex. No doubt there is the vestige of belief among men that if they are paying a woman’s way, they are entitled to repayment in the form of sexual gratification.
But it’s not that simple, because this political/economic explanation doesn’t take the biological element into account, even if---as some believe---the economic and political developments are ultimately rooted in the biological differences (of size, strength, mentality) between the sexes. The fact that the males are the pursuers and the females the pursued no doubt contributes to the perception that men are more interested in sex. Among the mammals it is undeniable that the males compete over who will win (or less delicately “mount”) the females in heat. We human beings may be “a little lower than the angels,” (Proverbs), but we have an animal nature as well. Perhaps that’s why most women complain that “All men are beasts,” even if they wouldn’t have it any other way!! Thus the humorous, but hardly complimentary remark I heard made by a woman who said, “Men think with their dicks!”
In sum, these roles and stereotypes are deeply rooted in our evolution as a species. Our consciousness is formed by these developments, hence our perceptions. To what extent all of these things bear on pathologies such as frigidity or impotence seen in individuals is a complicated matter and admittedly is somewhat tangential—but not altogether unrelated---to your question of whether a man would marry a frigid woman. It is not unrelated insofar as your question is premised on the assumption that men are primarily interested in sex and therefore would not marry a frigid woman who is ideal in every other regard. Of course the complementary and equally prejudiced question is to ask a woman if she would marry a man with no money. The unfortunate result of both these questions is that they fail to question the forces that give rise to them. The questions themselves are a function of the underlying dynamic that goes unexamined. The forces are real, true, but there are more fundamental forces at work. Looking at the question of economic security and sexual desire without the prejudicial overlay simplifies somewhat the whole “Love or Money” question.
The matter of economic security is the easiest to answer because there is no ambiguity. We all need to survive. Who, after all, isn’t motivated in a primary way by this need? If mankind was, by some unforeseen calamity, suddenly reduced to his original primitive state and all the economic inequities were stripped away and rendered irrelevant, would not men and women cooperate in an effort to insure their survival? Would each not do what would most likely guarantee their survival and that of their offspring? Would the women not stay put, care for the children, plant a garden and create some sense of home and hearth? (Surely we don’t think she would apply for a job as an “Employee Benefits Coordinator!”) And would the men not go out to hunt and gather to insure that his wife and children would be provided for? And would he not do everything in his power to repel any aggressor that would threaten his person or property? Different roles? Yes, but roles largely determined by biology. These roles Marx described as the “first division of labor.” Roles that have evolved into undeniable inequities were originally a matter of biological necessity. Bottom line: men and women both desire economic security. However, it is an ironic mark of latter day civilization that men and women alike often show a pathological desire for money independent of any concern for their economic security!
The matter of love of sex is a bit more complicated and subject to greater debate. However, it seems clear that the stereotype of men being more interested in it distorts the truth as much as the stereotype of women liking money more. Adding to this prejudice is the aforementioned assumption that men are sexual beasts and women the innocent objects of sexual desire who have no such desire themselves. (This idealization of women is not unrelated to the humorous quip that women don’t fart! I recall—imperfectly---a line from Dylan Thomas, something like, “O Celia, O Celia/ She shits.”) However, when men and women get to know each other this myth is shattered, for men often discover that their woman has a more voracious sexual appetite than their own. Some might even say women like sex more than men. This claim is the subject of an interesting story from Greek Mythology.
The story concerns an argument between Zeus and his wife Hera concerning who enjoys sex more, men or women. Zeus claimed women enjoyed it more and Hera claimed men did. To settle the dispute they summoned Teiresias, (who was born a man, changed into a woman, and back into a man) since only he experienced both. Upon his arrival at Mt. Olympus, he told the feuding couple that women enjoy sex more by saying, “If the parts of love-pleasure be counted as ten, / Thrice three go to women, one only to men.” Hera was outraged and blinded Teiresias, who then was granted inward vision and became a well-known seer.
Whether women enjoy sex more than men, who can say. I suspect some women do, others not. My gut feeling and experience tell me it’s largely a matter of individual passion, not a question of which sex likes sex more.
RE:
YB, You already used that line once. It was funny the first time. The poster asked for a "considered response." I offered one. You have not.
RE:
people! people!
no fact or anything but my strong oppinion:
women do love sex more then men, they just not open as we are about it and dont brag about it like we do... ofcourse there are exceptions...
But! i think there is a simpler answer to all of this...
We always want something that we cant have or dont have :)
no fact or anything but my strong oppinion:
women do love sex more then men, they just not open as we are about it and dont brag about it like we do... ofcourse there are exceptions...
But! i think there is a simpler answer to all of this...
We always want something that we cant have or dont have :)
RE:
Fact: women love good sex more than men.
Fact: most women are hetrosexual
Conclusion: most women don't have much chance of enjoying good sex
:-D
Fact: most women are hetrosexual
Conclusion: most women don't have much chance of enjoying good sex
:-D
RE:
actually most women are bi curious :P
And most women can enjoy sex...
1 thing that i dont see people mention is that some women can reach orgasm only by c*itoral... i dont know how to put this in the right way but basically most women can reach orgasm from the inside and most cant but they can reach an orgasm orally (if done right) :)
Sorry i dont know how to explain this professionaly :)
And most women can enjoy sex...
1 thing that i dont see people mention is that some women can reach orgasm only by c*itoral... i dont know how to put this in the right way but basically most women can reach orgasm from the inside and most cant but they can reach an orgasm orally (if done right) :)
Sorry i dont know how to explain this professionaly :)
RE:
think:"reality"was making a joke that women would enjoy better sex if they didn't need men as a partner or that men don't know what"good"sex is.possibly both.JMO.
RE:
Fair enough YB. She is likely hearing it the first time, and I would never want it to be said that I have stood as an impediment to good humor. The world could use much more. :)
RE: when everything seems to be wrong...
night is worse,my sleep is filled with demons & goblins.
RE: when everything seems to be wrong...
no not read it , but ive drunk Dandelion and Burdock Squash :-)
RE: when everything seems to be wrong...
Olga,
I assume by "night" you mean when we are asleep. True, sleep is often a refuge from our cares, but it too can be troubled.
Haven't read Bradbury's "Dandelion Wine," but I'll check it out. I liked "Farenheit 451" a lot. Thanks for the recommendation.
I assume by "night" you mean when we are asleep. True, sleep is often a refuge from our cares, but it too can be troubled.
Haven't read Bradbury's "Dandelion Wine," but I'll check it out. I liked "Farenheit 451" a lot. Thanks for the recommendation.
RE: Yes, by ...
...yes, by being what some call "brutally honest," and in which some take a curious pride, as if it justifies the crueltly just beneath the surface!
RE: is it posible....
Old saying, 'spare the rod, spoil the child' (re: cruel to be kind) - however, having been caned a number of times at school, I would have preferred to have remained spoiled. But you can be cruel to me Witchy, I quite like it! ;-)
RE: is it posible....
"..you gotta be cruel to be kind,in the right measure..."Words to a hit song from the 80's
RE: is it posible....
It was meeeee!! Thank god, someone remembered my one hit wonder...
Oh, I can't take another heartache
Though you say oh my friend, I'm at my wit's end
You say your love is bonafide, but that don't coincide
With the things that you do and when I ask you to be nice
You say you've got to be...
CHORUS:
Cruel to be kind in the right measure
Cruel to be kind it's a very good sign
Cruel to be kind means that I love you
Baby, got to be cruel, you got to be cruel to be kind
Well I do my best to understand dear
But you still mystify and I want to know why
I pick myself up off the ground to have you knock me back down
Again and again and when I ask you to explain
You say, you've got to be...
CHORUS
Ooh ooh ooh
ooh.. ooh... ooh...
Well I do my best to understand dear
But you still mystify and I want to know why
I pick myself up off the ground to have you knock me back down
Again and again and when I ask you to explain
You say, you've got to be...
Oh, I can't take another heartache
Though you say oh my friend, I'm at my wit's end
You say your love is bonafide, but that don't coincide
With the things that you do and when I ask you to be nice
You say you've got to be...
CHORUS:
Cruel to be kind in the right measure
Cruel to be kind it's a very good sign
Cruel to be kind means that I love you
Baby, got to be cruel, you got to be cruel to be kind
Well I do my best to understand dear
But you still mystify and I want to know why
I pick myself up off the ground to have you knock me back down
Again and again and when I ask you to explain
You say, you've got to be...
CHORUS
Ooh ooh ooh
ooh.. ooh... ooh...
Well I do my best to understand dear
But you still mystify and I want to know why
I pick myself up off the ground to have you knock me back down
Again and again and when I ask you to explain
You say, you've got to be...
RE: is it posible....
Sure it is possible. Take for instance a chat host that makes a man believe that they are in love,, as he maxes out all his credit cards, then spends all his checking account with his debit card.
All the while believing that one day they will meet, and make love for real. Then one day this man chats with the chat host in yahoo. the normal conversation
chat host : How are you today my dear.
Viewer ; I am fine, baby, you always make my day
talking with you
Chat host : Come to my video my LOVE, I have new stockings I bought just for your eyes !!!
Viewer : I would love to, But I have little problem :((
Chat host : Not want problems sweety .. want happpy,, Please come to me in video !!
Viewer : I have no money now,,, but I miss you and will come in really soon, I promise.
chat host : ok baby,,, I will wait for you. Closes yahoo.
deletes name from friends list.
Yes in business it is possible to be kind, and cruel at same time,,,, Of course this is true in all business, not just cam hosts...
Money talks
BS walks.
All the while believing that one day they will meet, and make love for real. Then one day this man chats with the chat host in yahoo. the normal conversation
chat host : How are you today my dear.
Viewer ; I am fine, baby, you always make my day
talking with you
Chat host : Come to my video my LOVE, I have new stockings I bought just for your eyes !!!
Viewer : I would love to, But I have little problem :((
Chat host : Not want problems sweety .. want happpy,, Please come to me in video !!
Viewer : I have no money now,,, but I miss you and will come in really soon, I promise.
chat host : ok baby,,, I will wait for you. Closes yahoo.
deletes name from friends list.
Yes in business it is possible to be kind, and cruel at same time,,,, Of course this is true in all business, not just cam hosts...
Money talks
BS walks.
RE: is it posible....
I imagine that the chathost who pretends love or promises meetings is more prevelant than the viewer who moves the host to his country and drops her because of a discovery that he does not love her.
The chathost lie (when it happens) is a lie. The discovery that love is illusive by a viewer upon moving a host to his country seems more likely to be a stupid mistake rather than a lie.
I coudl see a viewer visiting and then announcing (after a hot night of sex) that he is married being a better comparison of deceit.
The chathost lie (when it happens) is a lie. The discovery that love is illusive by a viewer upon moving a host to his country seems more likely to be a stupid mistake rather than a lie.
I coudl see a viewer visiting and then announcing (after a hot night of sex) that he is married being a better comparison of deceit.
RE: is it posible....
I agree with you Charlotte,, sorry for my generalization :((
Was not to put you or others down...
My meaning was for the question of " Is it possible to be kind and cruel at same time " My statement was that some times people or Business can be very kind, at the same time they can be cruel at not exposing the cost or the full picture.
Sorry about the chat host element, was just my anology of a game that some hosts can pull on members,, and YES some viewers also pull on the host...
Thanks :)))
Was not to put you or others down...
My meaning was for the question of " Is it possible to be kind and cruel at same time " My statement was that some times people or Business can be very kind, at the same time they can be cruel at not exposing the cost or the full picture.
Sorry about the chat host element, was just my anology of a game that some hosts can pull on members,, and YES some viewers also pull on the host...
Thanks :)))
RE: is it posible....
always wil be a slight difference between a friend and a customer..
for most here there are friendly hosts with friendly customers, and maybe even playing along with the your special role,, while of course enjoying - usualy both ways ..
But luckily ,, there are also the genuuine girls and genuine guys also where ,, sometimes , its not customer any more but friend.
its rare but still happens here..
I have a few friends
I am a customer friend for others..
the words above seperate the types..
those that still ask how i am , call, know when i am away , and never ask for vid,,,
or and i have 5 like this .. remain friends , after cc work -
have met a few, get real post and calls , or sms,,
as for the orginal question... yes sometimes its nicer to tell an unwanted truth ,, rather than leave the person thinking something mistaken.. takes effort to say im sorry i found someone else or im sorry , it seems i just dont care for u that way anymore..
It hurts ..
but its the best way,,,long term..
happened to me ,
for most here there are friendly hosts with friendly customers, and maybe even playing along with the your special role,, while of course enjoying - usualy both ways ..
But luckily ,, there are also the genuuine girls and genuine guys also where ,, sometimes , its not customer any more but friend.
its rare but still happens here..
I have a few friends
I am a customer friend for others..
the words above seperate the types..
those that still ask how i am , call, know when i am away , and never ask for vid,,,
or and i have 5 like this .. remain friends , after cc work -
have met a few, get real post and calls , or sms,,
as for the orginal question... yes sometimes its nicer to tell an unwanted truth ,, rather than leave the person thinking something mistaken.. takes effort to say im sorry i found someone else or im sorry , it seems i just dont care for u that way anymore..
It hurts ..
but its the best way,,,long term..
happened to me ,
Does anyone...
...know where Merci21 is gone, she havent been online since 25 april, i know that isnt to long but she was online almost every night, any information about her?
RE: Tell me how..
Can u ride a unicycle while juggling 3 oranges and singing '' God save the Queen '' at the same time .... i would pay to see that .....
Tangential question to fitness guy.
I have always been perplexed by the anglophilia exhibited by a large segment of American gay men. Any insights into this?
RE: Tell me how..
Do you do anything with monkeys? Monkeys scare me ... and clowns ... and monkeys dressed up as clowns ... and spam ... spam scares me ... do you do things with spam and monkeys and clowns? Or clowns dressed up as spam. Or underpants? Underpants scare me ...
RE: Tell me how..
hehe u want me to spank my monkey for u? Yea im spanking my monkey, u, monkey lover LOL:P
....and the REAL "Spam"--that's scary!
I just saw a can of Hormel Foods famous food, SPAM---the sustenance of WWII Allied troops, immortalized in song by Monty Python, etc. The can is a retro design, with an American soldier on the right and a 40's housewife on the left. In the middle is emblazoned "70th Anniversary", the entire circle reading, "Celebrating the 70th Anniversary of American Flavor." And it left me wondering what, precisely, is "American Flavor?"
RE: Support bacteria..
So speaks a man from a country whose greatest poet is Banjo Paterson. Lol.
RE: Support bacteria..
SP, I must say that name sent me to Wikipedia! lol! But, I then discovered that he is the author of the poem, "Waltzing Matilda," which was set to music, and provided a vehicle for his verse to emerge from the bush, indeed to distant shores, to that other great anglophone continent of high culture, the USA. Two penal colonies a half-world apart! Lol! ...btw, what of your contemporary, Thomas Keneally? He is certainly a man of well-deserved literary fame---and not just because of "Schindler's List."
RE: Support bacteria..
I'm with ya gete. In the States we're even doing our best to kill that off! I read an article recently about a movement to allow for the sale of raw milk in the US. Only a handful of States allow it. The mega-industry and their bedfellow, the US regulatory ageny, are opposed, preferring instead the "high temperature flash pasturization" techniques that kill not only the few injurious bacteria that may be lurking, but the numerous beneficial bacteria as well, rendering a product stripped of most of its nutritional benefit. I read, much to my horror, that on this vast continent of ours, 70% of the milk is produced by six companies! Why it's enough to drive a sane man into the bush! :)
RE: where?
reading in to the post above I get the feeling he's a cheap spender...WTF is I don't want to bother her while she;s working mean? Does it mean you want to chat but you don;t want to spend?...lol... no wonder she left the chat room
bye bye chelsea
hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahhahahah 4-1 on penalties
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
RE: bye bye chelsea
what the real one? or the one who has been posting on here for the last few days? :)
RE: bye bye chelsea
true - but if they were doing two hits for the price of one i wouldn't be too disappointed :)
RE: bye bye chelsea
Chelsea conspiring haters! I will be back to win all ze competitions next season! My chelsea go far, you watch...
does anybody of...
.. the fella webmasters know what's happening with the car from camsense. I so want to win it!
Were you there?
Story by a Man standing in a queue in Tesco's........
I have 2 dogs & I was buying a large bag of Winalot in Tesco and was standing in the queue at the till. A woman behind me asked if I had a dog.
On impulse, I told her that no, I was starting The Winalot Diet again, although I probably shouldn't because I'd ended up in the hospital last time, but that I'd lost 50 pounds before I awakened in an itensive care ward with tubes coming out of most of my orifices and IVs in both arms.
I told her that it was essentially a perfect diet and the way that it works is to load your trouser pockets with Winalot nuggets and simply eat one or two every time you feel hungry & that the food is nutritionally complete so I was going to try it again.
I have to mention here that practically everyone in the queue was by now enthralled with my story, particularly a guy who was behind her.
Horrified, she asked if I'd ended up in the hospital in that condition because I had been poisoned. I told her no, it was because I'd been sitting in the road licking my balls and a car hit me.
I thought one guy was going to have a heart attack he was laughing so hard as he staggered out the door.
Stupid cow..........why else would I buy dog food??
I have 2 dogs & I was buying a large bag of Winalot in Tesco and was standing in the queue at the till. A woman behind me asked if I had a dog.
On impulse, I told her that no, I was starting The Winalot Diet again, although I probably shouldn't because I'd ended up in the hospital last time, but that I'd lost 50 pounds before I awakened in an itensive care ward with tubes coming out of most of my orifices and IVs in both arms.
I told her that it was essentially a perfect diet and the way that it works is to load your trouser pockets with Winalot nuggets and simply eat one or two every time you feel hungry & that the food is nutritionally complete so I was going to try it again.
I have to mention here that practically everyone in the queue was by now enthralled with my story, particularly a guy who was behind her.
Horrified, she asked if I'd ended up in the hospital in that condition because I had been poisoned. I told her no, it was because I'd been sitting in the road licking my balls and a car hit me.
I thought one guy was going to have a heart attack he was laughing so hard as he staggered out the door.
Stupid cow..........why else would I buy dog food??
who ?
So who are you cheering for zis evenings ?? My beloved Chelsea or ze diving Liverpool ... Ze referee need be strong to not award ze penalty against the chelsea despite zat Gerrard player diving in ze box ... You all conspire against ze Great One and ze Chelsea
Removing "Old" Favorites from my folder
So I'm going through my Favotites Folder and start removing the one that haven't been on line in a long time and I decide to share them and hear what others thought or want to share their "old" favorites.
Tigresswet
Hungryholes
Nastyfuktits
Hotasian22
Venezuelakis
Daddystoys69
Sweetkisser
Hornybitch
Tigresswet
Hungryholes
Nastyfuktits
Hotasian22
Venezuelakis
Daddystoys69
Sweetkisser
Hornybitch
Monkey
A guy walks into a bar with his pet monkey. He orders a drink and while he's drinking, the monkey jumps all around the place. The monkey grabs some olives off the bar and eats them. Then he grabs some sliced limes and eats them. He then jumps onto the pool table and grabs one of the billiard balls. To everyone's amazement, he sticks it in his mouth, and somehow swallows it whole. The bartender screams at the guy, "Did you see what your monkey just did?"
"No, what?"
"He just ate the cue ball off my pool table... whole!"
"Yeah, that doesn't surprise me," replied the guy, "he eats everything in sight. Sorry! I'll pay for the cue ball and stuff." The guy finishes his drink, pays his bill, pays for the stuff the monkey ate and leaves.
Two weeks later the guy is in the bar again, and has his monkey with him. He orders a drink and the monkey starts running around the bar again. While the man is finishing his drink, the monkey finds a maraschino cherry on the bar. He grabs it, sticks it up his butt, pulls it out, and eats it. Then the monkey finds a peanut, and again sticks it up his butt, pulls it out, and eats it. The bartender is disgusted. "Did you see what your monkey did now?"
"No, what?" replied the man.
"Well, he stuck a maraschino cherry and a peanut up his butt, pulled them out, and ate them!" said the bartender.
"Yeah, that doesn't surprise me," replied the guy. "He still eats everything in sight, but ever since he had to pass that cue ball, he measures everything first."
"No, what?"
"He just ate the cue ball off my pool table... whole!"
"Yeah, that doesn't surprise me," replied the guy, "he eats everything in sight. Sorry! I'll pay for the cue ball and stuff." The guy finishes his drink, pays his bill, pays for the stuff the monkey ate and leaves.
Two weeks later the guy is in the bar again, and has his monkey with him. He orders a drink and the monkey starts running around the bar again. While the man is finishing his drink, the monkey finds a maraschino cherry on the bar. He grabs it, sticks it up his butt, pulls it out, and eats it. Then the monkey finds a peanut, and again sticks it up his butt, pulls it out, and eats it. The bartender is disgusted. "Did you see what your monkey did now?"
"No, what?" replied the man.
"Well, he stuck a maraschino cherry and a peanut up his butt, pulled them out, and ate them!" said the bartender.
"Yeah, that doesn't surprise me," replied the guy. "He still eats everything in sight, but ever since he had to pass that cue ball, he measures everything first."
RE: I'm going
HOT prices for small hellholes. Furniture and DSL included.
Call 666, We`re expecting YOU!
"LivingInHell.com"
Call 666, We`re expecting YOU!
"LivingInHell.com"
waste of money
i know i should put this in the viewer forum, but i want host to see it to and I hope some of you get better, but i experienced the worst video i have ever had on here in 3 years now, thie misslawyer host seems to think she is hot, well some of you might think so, but wont get another dollar from me and i know she doesnt care, because i dont care, i heard she was good in video from several friends here, but after visiting her, well all i can say is good luck to others and the ones that still go see her, thats ok, hope you are getting a better show, and no it had nothing to do with my personality, she is just a little girl that needs to grow up and respect people better
RE: waste of money
May I offer as an alternative, (at the same price), warmkiss, a sweet, charming, sexy, beautiful, slender blonde, and although only 19, she is very mature. Give her a try and don't skimp on the extra 10 cents for one to one.
RE: waste of money
oohh hhoo haaa, childish?! This coming from someone that feels like she has to respond to every post and is never wrong. What's it like being so perfect?
RE: waste of money
Tell the truth, you're crazy aren't you?
I am not pretty or a host nor do I want to take the time to figure out why you respond to every post, but I'd bet dollars to doughnuts you will reply to this one.
I am not pretty or a host nor do I want to take the time to figure out why you respond to every post, but I'd bet dollars to doughnuts you will reply to this one.
The First Stone
Charlotte,
Your evocation of that New Testment passage reminds me of a joke:
Jesus says to the crowd, "Let ye who is without sin cast the first stone." No sooner had he uttered the words when a stone was hurled his way and struck him! Looking to the crowd Jesus said, "Mother!!!!"
Your evocation of that New Testment passage reminds me of a joke:
Jesus says to the crowd, "Let ye who is without sin cast the first stone." No sooner had he uttered the words when a stone was hurled his way and struck him! Looking to the crowd Jesus said, "Mother!!!!"
RE: waste of money
Hun, I bring my own viewers, I don't need you to advertise me.
And saing that you are not without sin wasn't in insult, it meant that you are not perfect either.
And saing that you are not without sin wasn't in insult, it meant that you are not perfect either.
RE: waste of money
she took several phone calls during a video with me and one was for about ten minutes and she just sat there and ignored me.
host is a misnomer for her
host is a misnomer for her
RE: waste of money
LOL....guys you are totally nuts=)) wait for her while she is talking on the phone:O
mannnn , I gotta find such kind of viewers too...haha
mannnn , I gotta find such kind of viewers too...haha
RE: waste of money
why start that now crazy kate, you have already been doing that, but not the phone, its your messager you are on all the time during video, i had you in video and on messager at the same time and got more chat from you while on messager than in video, I can save more money by doing this, o i shouldnt told you that now, but it seems a lot of women here do that, so what ever turns you on I see you in hell too and we dont have to worried about all this anymore
RE: waste of money
you people here amazed me with all this bull crap back and forth with stupid comments about love, wasting money, being butts, telling stupid jokes, but hey I love it here, keep it up my children and rock on, by the way has anyone seen my lover girl on here, she has been missing in action lately, hmmmm, I quess not, so i will take the disapointed member advice, I will go see this Miss Lawer, she sounds like my kind of girl, nothing wrong with her pictures, she looks sexy, now im interesting in seeing her in video so to you, dont worried so much about not getting your money worth, I will take care of that for you and I also need a lawyer to help me get some things straight here..
RE: waste of money
why do you say that you posted here so she can read it, after three years of sapporting CC, you dont know hosts read our private viewer only forum? even i am not so forgetful,
as for misslawyer, i have heard so many complaints about her, i really really really really think i will see her. one mans hamburger is another mans steak.
or
'' his trash is my treasure''
as for misslawyer, i have heard so many complaints about her, i really really really really think i will see her. one mans hamburger is another mans steak.
or
'' his trash is my treasure''
RE: waste of money
Nope, the hamburger-steak analogy won't work with her, you can't polish a turd, belive me, I've tried.
to member #1
well...I talked to YOU on messenger......NOT to others:)...so don`t you get the difference?;)
to prettyhost
Got what, pretty??? I wonder:-s....you should scroll up and read again , paying attention to the posts:) U might even get the joke;)
RE: to prettyhost
coz you didn't leave a huge impression on her while you were in her room, so you must be brit
RE: waste of money
i tried to polish a turd once....i only got shit on my hands...you are right kate
RE: waste of money
:D might happen pretty soon....though...haven`t decided yet...where is gonna be....england or romania:-s
RE: waste of money
ah yes, misslawyer, she used that screenname that day with you. you may find her under about 4 different names here. She will be very nice and sweet with you, until you do not come into vid. and yes, she likes to answer the phone in vid. thats when you leave.
hi
where are the men host--cc needs more, i need a good man, my boyfriend left me all hanging here, im a sweet girl 20 years old-anyone here
RE: hi
no thanks, im not being disrepectful about members, because i am one, but I dont wont a member bf here, i looking for a good man from canada, i having a hard time it seems, if all host are taken, i just hang out a little longer
RE: hi
Good man from Canada? They exist? roflmfao you won't find one here girlie. Just ask trevor ;-) or *Inger4u* host name