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A song for the ladies
Step one you say we need to talk
He walks you say sit down it's just a talk
He smiles politely back at you
You stare politely right on through
Some sort of window to your right
As he goes left and you stay right
Between the lines of fear and blame
And you begin to wonder why you came
Where did I go wrong, I lost a friend
Somewhere along in the bitterness
And I would have stayed up with you all night
Had I known how to save a life
Let him know that you know best
Cause after all you do know best
Try to slip past his defense
Without granting innocence
Lay down a list of what is wrong
The things you've told him all along
And pray to God he hears you
Where did I go wrong, I lost a friend
Somewhere along in the bitterness
And I would have stayed up with you all night
Had I known how to save a life
As he begins to raise his voice
You lower yours and grant him one last choice
Drive until you lose the road
Or break with the ones you've followed
He will do one of two things
He will admit to everything
Or he'll say he's just not the same
And you'll begin to wonder why you came
Where did I go wrong, I lost a friend
Somewhere along in the bitterness
And I would have stayed up with you all night
Had I known how to save a life
THe FRAY
He walks you say sit down it's just a talk
He smiles politely back at you
You stare politely right on through
Some sort of window to your right
As he goes left and you stay right
Between the lines of fear and blame
And you begin to wonder why you came
Where did I go wrong, I lost a friend
Somewhere along in the bitterness
And I would have stayed up with you all night
Had I known how to save a life
Let him know that you know best
Cause after all you do know best
Try to slip past his defense
Without granting innocence
Lay down a list of what is wrong
The things you've told him all along
And pray to God he hears you
Where did I go wrong, I lost a friend
Somewhere along in the bitterness
And I would have stayed up with you all night
Had I known how to save a life
As he begins to raise his voice
You lower yours and grant him one last choice
Drive until you lose the road
Or break with the ones you've followed
He will do one of two things
He will admit to everything
Or he'll say he's just not the same
And you'll begin to wonder why you came
Where did I go wrong, I lost a friend
Somewhere along in the bitterness
And I would have stayed up with you all night
Had I known how to save a life
THe FRAY
RE: Hey people)
1. Move to adult.
2. Lose the stupid haircut
3. More light in your pics
4. More pics with imagination (assuming you have some)
5. A little more exposure in forums, community chat
2. Lose the stupid haircut
3. More light in your pics
4. More pics with imagination (assuming you have some)
5. A little more exposure in forums, community chat
RE: Hey people)
and you didn't even bother to try to give her any useful advice - at least some of bebe's was constructive
RE: Hey people)
"How can i improve and get better?"
He answered her question with his blunt opinion. If she is so thin-skinned she better not be a chathost.
He answered her question with his blunt opinion. If she is so thin-skinned she better not be a chathost.
RE: Hey people)
Yes, he did it rather sharply, even rudely, but he is the one person who offered advice. If you are a host you know this chat world is full of rude guys who don't even try to help. He at least offered some suggestions. I hope the ones I gave below are also something for her to think about.
It would be nice if someone wrote a Chathost Reference Manual, but it is not to be. Why doesn't someone start a monitored wikipedia page for chathosts? I wish I knew how.
I would think that even staff meetings in studios with all the hosts sharing experiences and ideas for better service would be helpful for business. But I guess jealousies would come and ruin such things.
It would be nice if someone wrote a Chathost Reference Manual, but it is not to be. Why doesn't someone start a monitored wikipedia page for chathosts? I wish I knew how.
I would think that even staff meetings in studios with all the hosts sharing experiences and ideas for better service would be helpful for business. But I guess jealousies would come and ruin such things.
RE: Hey people)
I agree entirely with you N.C.O. He/she could have given the same advice in a much more pleasant way.
RE: Hey people)
Bebe is right that haircut is yuck! Many russian girls with this stupid haircut. Whats with it? Cleopatra? LOL. It looks so dumb!
RE: Hey people)
it is not your style. get a grip man. Bebe was to rude about it
if you dont like the style then go talk to someone else
its not 100% my style either but looks cute on her
if you dont like the style then go talk to someone else
its not 100% my style either but looks cute on her
RE: Hey people)
Firstly, I think a lot of members don't even bother to look in non-adult sections so possibly try to chat in community chat for a while so that some more people see your profile.
Secondly, personally I am not sure your hair/fringe looks that great when you pull/hide your longer hair away - which you seem to do in a lot of photos.
Thirdly, if you are advertising in forums like this - it would be better to do it when you are actually online so that people could chat with you or at least see your price
But good luck here anyway
Secondly, personally I am not sure your hair/fringe looks that great when you pull/hide your longer hair away - which you seem to do in a lot of photos.
Thirdly, if you are advertising in forums like this - it would be better to do it when you are actually online so that people could chat with you or at least see your price
But good luck here anyway
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The jet-black hair is not a turn-on for many guys. It's a bit goth. Maybe you should go goth all the way and try Fetish. Fetish is not a nude section, it is simply for guys that like particular things.
I see you smoke. Sexy smoking turns some guys on for some reason. Some guys are into shoes/feet. I heard of one guy who paid to watch a girl put on fresh nail polish.
Your pics have a Fetish aura to me. Maybe you should try it.
I see you smoke. Sexy smoking turns some guys on for some reason. Some guys are into shoes/feet. I heard of one guy who paid to watch a girl put on fresh nail polish.
Your pics have a Fetish aura to me. Maybe you should try it.
RE: Hey people)
your right old guy some guys have the strangest fetish's. hope i can find many people to pay me 5$ a min to put nail polish on :P oh i forgot i am not a host :(
RE: Hey people)
the fact that you ask for opinions is a positive.i don't think that you necessarily need to get better,maybe just known more.be patient & never forget who you are.it's fine trying to act out a members fantasy but you must always keep your personality.remember in this world not everyone is suited to everyone.just be yourself & you will find your place here.just my opinion & not sure if it's worthwhile but good luck to you.
RE: Hey people)
Got to agree with Bebe that hairdoo is awful. I think there is a pretty girl hiding in there but that hairstyle is very unflattering. More light in the pics is a good idea. Keep your prices reasonable when starting out and try adult if you want to draw more men consistently.
RE: Hey people)
Here's some advice for a newbie...stay away frrm guys like bebe, they need to mature a little more
RE: Hey people)
stay far away from bebe and the other children. let them grow up a bit first :D
RE: Hey people)
Never said you wern't honest nor was I kissing ass.
Just going by your two post in this thread I'd say you are angry about something. Have a beer and relax, life is good and so are some of the host.
Just going by your two post in this thread I'd say you are angry about something. Have a beer and relax, life is good and so are some of the host.
RE: Hey people)
Bebe, "Honesty" can also be a vehicle for venting hostility. Those who pride themselves on being "brutally honest" apparently think that the honestly of their appraisal excuses them from having to have any regard for the feelings of the other person. But this is not a referendum on your manners, but a place to offer advice to a new host.
That said, you offered her some very good advice. Your observations were insightful. There was nothing at all wrong with what you said and how you said it re: #1,3 and 5. And think just how much better all 5 suggestions would have been received had you simply said in #2, "You might consider changing your hairstyle," and eliminate the parenthetical insult in # 4. That, Bebe, was a hostile, unwarranted cheap shot and you know it.
Yes, "honesty speaks volumes," but delivering an honest answer with good will is of greater importance.
That said, you offered her some very good advice. Your observations were insightful. There was nothing at all wrong with what you said and how you said it re: #1,3 and 5. And think just how much better all 5 suggestions would have been received had you simply said in #2, "You might consider changing your hairstyle," and eliminate the parenthetical insult in # 4. That, Bebe, was a hostile, unwarranted cheap shot and you know it.
Yes, "honesty speaks volumes," but delivering an honest answer with good will is of greater importance.
RE: Hey people)
It is a stupid haircut. I hate when girls create this look thinking they will look 'beautiful' when indeed they look hideous. Different strokes for different folks, those who like it I suggest a reality check.
Comment 4 was a cheap shot, then again, if you have the immagination to style your hair in this way, you really are in trouble.
I gave good advice, albeit with a little brutal honesty but I know as well as you do, she will receive far worse in video, than a few 'over the head' comments.
Comment 4 was a cheap shot, then again, if you have the immagination to style your hair in this way, you really are in trouble.
I gave good advice, albeit with a little brutal honesty but I know as well as you do, she will receive far worse in video, than a few 'over the head' comments.
RE: Hey people)
even replying to Melomane you could not resist hurling another insult at her."brutal honesty"is not sugar-coating the truth but that doesn't mean you cover it with shit like you did.just because you make the assumption that she will hear worse in video doesn't justify your woman-hating vitriol.
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"woman-hating vitriol" - I gather this defeats the purpose of a) being on a porn site with 100's of ladies b) giving my opinion on ONE woman, not ALL
I still gave her more help than you even cared to offer, even if it was a little too blunt.
I still gave her more help than you even cared to offer, even if it was a little too blunt.
RE: Hey people)
you think you did but you have not chatted to the lady.yes woman-haters are found here because a)its hard for them to have real relations B0 because here they can try to live out their superiority complex
RE: Hey people)
being honest doesn't mean you have to be rude,impolite or insulting.be constructive not destructive.
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Prettytess, I'd offer one simple observation. Looking over your many photos, I think there are many that would better serve your purpose as the main photo. Your present photo obscures your face someone and the lighting and pose do not show you at your best. And since many guys first check out a girl's profile based on that first impression you want to choose the best one.
For my part, I think the best photos are those that show the host as friendly (without being "cute" in a saccharine way) and at the same time sexually alluring. In no particular order, I think any of the following 4 photos would serve you better: 1) 9Feb,12:47; 2)13Feb,22:02; 3) 17Feb,16:16; 4) 21Feb,19:05. Good Luck!
For my part, I think the best photos are those that show the host as friendly (without being "cute" in a saccharine way) and at the same time sexually alluring. In no particular order, I think any of the following 4 photos would serve you better: 1) 9Feb,12:47; 2)13Feb,22:02; 3) 17Feb,16:16; 4) 21Feb,19:05. Good Luck!
RE: Hey people)
Photos of people with dark hair and dark backgrounds are difficult to see well in these types of photos. In addition to more light I suggest a slighty lighter background (not white).
Also fashions (and hairstyles) of European girls are QUITE different from those in the US.
I got in a lot of trouble when I made a comment to the manager of an online Russian marriage agency. I sent him a message and asked him why all the girls seemed to dress like hookers. I later realized they were merely being fashionable and trying to look nice in the photos.
Also fashions (and hairstyles) of European girls are QUITE different from those in the US.
I got in a lot of trouble when I made a comment to the manager of an online Russian marriage agency. I sent him a message and asked him why all the girls seemed to dress like hookers. I later realized they were merely being fashionable and trying to look nice in the photos.
The Umbrella:))
A 90-year-old man said to his doctor, "I've never felt better. I have an
18-year-old bride who is pregnant with my child. What do you think about
that?"
The doctor considered his question for a minute and then said, "I have an
elderly friend who is a hunter and never misses a season. One day when he
was going out in a bit of a hurry, he accidentally picked up his umbrella instead
of his gun.
When he got to the Creek, he saw a beaver sitting beside the
stream. He raised his umbrella and went, 'bang, bang' and the beaver fell
dead. What do you think of that?"
The 90-year-old said, "I'd say somebody else shot that beaver."
The doctor replied, "My point exactly."
18-year-old bride who is pregnant with my child. What do you think about
that?"
The doctor considered his question for a minute and then said, "I have an
elderly friend who is a hunter and never misses a season. One day when he
was going out in a bit of a hurry, he accidentally picked up his umbrella instead
of his gun.
When he got to the Creek, he saw a beaver sitting beside the
stream. He raised his umbrella and went, 'bang, bang' and the beaver fell
dead. What do you think of that?"
The 90-year-old said, "I'd say somebody else shot that beaver."
The doctor replied, "My point exactly."
RE: The Umbrella:))
lol poor man.
I'm looking forward to seeing my pregnant gf again as we have been apart for over a year.
I'm looking forward to seeing my pregnant gf again as we have been apart for over a year.
RE: The Umbrella:))
Yes you are right hmmmm lol
No "me" she is still pregnant and not an elephant (although she does never forget when I have done something wrong).
My best friend has been looking after her while I have been away these last 14 months even staying over at our place some nights just to make sure she is ok.
Now that's real friendship.
No "me" she is still pregnant and not an elephant (although she does never forget when I have done something wrong).
My best friend has been looking after her while I have been away these last 14 months even staying over at our place some nights just to make sure she is ok.
Now that's real friendship.
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uummm, can I be your friend? I'll look after your girl while you are away :D
RE: The Umbrella:))
Gala you can share my umbrella anytime ;)
Oh by the way your part of the umbrella has a big hole in it :P
Oh by the way your part of the umbrella has a big hole in it :P
RE: The Umbrella:))
friend you been getting intimate with umbrellas now?can i have a lend after you have finished please?
RE: The Umbrella:))
Well as I don't do hot kisses or romantic nights it is just as well you don't miss me :P
I believe Stratford-upon-Avon is very nice though :D
I believe Stratford-upon-Avon is very nice though :D
RE: Whats your opinion about this law?
Verb 1. lapidate - kill by throwing stones at; "Adulterers should be stoned according to the Koran"
stone
kill - cause to die; put to death, usually intentionally or knowingly; "This man killed several people when he tried to rob a bank"; "The farmer killed a pig for the holidays"
2. lapidate - throw stones at
bombard, pelt - cast, hurl, or throw repeatedly with some missile; "They pelted each other with snowballs"
stone
kill - cause to die; put to death, usually intentionally or knowingly; "This man killed several people when he tried to rob a bank"; "The farmer killed a pig for the holidays"
2. lapidate - throw stones at
bombard, pelt - cast, hurl, or throw repeatedly with some missile; "They pelted each other with snowballs"
RE: Whats your opinion about this law?
well, i think that is possibly one of the most callous comments about women being murdered that i have read here!
i think you have to consider that muslim countries tend to have a lot more arranged (and forced) marriages than most other cultures and so you are possibly being forced to marry someone whom you may not even have met - and i am sure you would object to having to have sex with a stranger who you may not even like (let alone be attracted to) because otherwise you would be stoned to death.
so in answer to the original question - i think it is totally barbaric
i think you have to consider that muslim countries tend to have a lot more arranged (and forced) marriages than most other cultures and so you are possibly being forced to marry someone whom you may not even have met - and i am sure you would object to having to have sex with a stranger who you may not even like (let alone be attracted to) because otherwise you would be stoned to death.
so in answer to the original question - i think it is totally barbaric
RE: Whats your opinion about this law?
so you are saying muslim countries are more developed and so don't have arranged or forced marriages anymore?
i live in the uk in an area with quite a large muslim community and arranged marriages are still very common there (often to cousins who live in pakistan) and i have worked with a girl whose parents were trying to force her to marry someone she hadn't met.
although at least we don't have the stoning to death punishment over here! (yet)
i live in the uk in an area with quite a large muslim community and arranged marriages are still very common there (often to cousins who live in pakistan) and i have worked with a girl whose parents were trying to force her to marry someone she hadn't met.
although at least we don't have the stoning to death punishment over here! (yet)
RE: Whats your opinion about this law?
sadly too many of us men are not to be trusted at times like that (and i think that goes for men of all religions/cultures)
RE: Whats your opinion about this law?
http://www.geocities.com/forpeoplewhothink/Topics/Honor_Killings.html
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Where do you live, Angel??? There is no change in Muslim (Sharia) Law and arranged marriages are still the norm.
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it is barbaric,but them most forms of legalised killing is barbaric to me.illegal killing is even worse
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what would happen if the reason she didn't have sex is her husband is impotent.wonder if he would be lapidated.
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Not only that, Vera, they stone them to death. Barbaric, but it is their law.
RE: Whats your opinion about this law?
It's not actually law, but a custom. The President of Pakistan has banned these acts., but of course nothing has changed. The odd thing is, entire families can be involved. A mother would have her son kill her daughter even. Bizarre, but true.
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MT, Are you sure this practice is not based on Sharia, the code of Islamic law---which is synonymous with civil law in some countries---based largely on the Koran?
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I was speaking about law from a legal standpoint, not a religious one. AFAIK, honor killings are illegal in Pakistan.
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BUT, in some places Sharia law (or certain persons interpretations of it) supercede anything written and civil authorities do not dare challenge it except in very rare cases of world-wide attention.
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"If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity."
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You know what they say about those that cast the first stone..........
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"But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group and said to Jesus, 'Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?' They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him.
But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her. Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.
At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. Jesus straightened up and asked her, 'Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?'
'No one, sir,' she said.
'Then neither do I condemn you,' Jesus declared. 'Go now and leave your life of sin.'"
But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her. Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.
At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. Jesus straightened up and asked her, 'Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?'
'No one, sir,' she said.
'Then neither do I condemn you,' Jesus declared. 'Go now and leave your life of sin.'"
A Joke re: this passage
Jesus said, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."
No sooner had Jesus said this when a stone struck the woman in the face and knocked her to the ground. Jesus, looking sharply at those in the crowd, said, "Mother!!!!!"
No sooner had Jesus said this when a stone struck the woman in the face and knocked her to the ground. Jesus, looking sharply at those in the crowd, said, "Mother!!!!!"
RE: Whats your opinion about this law?
well, she should at least have sex with her husband one time to see if he is good in bed or not. As for the killing her I'm sure there are some western laws/customs that seem pretty barbaric to them too. i.e. eating pigs or women going topless on the beach.
RE: Whats your opinion about this law?
they may believe such things are immoral, wrong, unhealthly/unclean, disrespectful or distasteful - but surely you cannot compare them to stoning women to death??
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I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying I bet there are some things they find barbaric in our customs/culture (pigs and topless women is the only thing I could come up at the moment).
How can we "cast stones" at their laws/customs even if it is for casting stones. Talk about a conundrum.
And don't call me Shirley :D
How can we "cast stones" at their laws/customs even if it is for casting stones. Talk about a conundrum.
And don't call me Shirley :D
RE: Whats your opinion about this law?
if their law/custom is advocating murder for something that cannot fairly be considered a crime then i think criticising (or casting stones) at their law/custom is more than justified
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If anyone believes that the Koran justifies such an action, they're mistaken.
Just as there are those who would pervert Christianity to demagogue and impose their power and will on others, so there are those who would profane Islam in the very same way.
Just be careful of who you consider "they" and who you identify as being a part of "us" is all I'm saying.
Just as there are those who would pervert Christianity to demagogue and impose their power and will on others, so there are those who would profane Islam in the very same way.
Just be careful of who you consider "they" and who you identify as being a part of "us" is all I'm saying.
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"they" are the murderers who would carry this out or support this in the "certain muslim countries" referred to in the original post.
i am fairly sure i didn't use an "us" anywhere in my posts but i would probably count "us" in this context as people who are sensible enough to oppose murder (whether they are white/black/hindu/muslim/sikh/christian/jewish or whatever)
i am fairly sure i didn't use an "us" anywhere in my posts but i would probably count "us" in this context as people who are sensible enough to oppose murder (whether they are white/black/hindu/muslim/sikh/christian/jewish or whatever)
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"They" are easily identifible by the rocks and sticks and guns and bombs "they" carry. "They" are those who insist upon death for not following their customs in toto.
Also those Moslems who refuse (or are afraid) to condemn death for the rumor of talking to a man have immense culpability. Why don't they see that condemnation of such excesses would show the world that Islam is not about death and destruction? By not stepping up they are providing proof to those who hate and fear them. If Islam is allowed to be perceived as a religion that endorses, if not supports, such evil excesses.
Just as we condemn the excesses of the Inquistion - and who does not - we have the right to condemn those who burn witches, participate in pograms and commit ethnic cleansing, we have the right to condemn those who hide behind sacred writings to control and rule through fear, intimidation and outright terrorism.
Also those Moslems who refuse (or are afraid) to condemn death for the rumor of talking to a man have immense culpability. Why don't they see that condemnation of such excesses would show the world that Islam is not about death and destruction? By not stepping up they are providing proof to those who hate and fear them. If Islam is allowed to be perceived as a religion that endorses, if not supports, such evil excesses.
Just as we condemn the excesses of the Inquistion - and who does not - we have the right to condemn those who burn witches, participate in pograms and commit ethnic cleansing, we have the right to condemn those who hide behind sacred writings to control and rule through fear, intimidation and outright terrorism.
RE: Whats your opinion about this law?
I applaud your use of the 25 cents words, but your intelligence level is still lacking. Have a good day :D
RE: Whats your opinion about this law?
If you find "truthteller's" argument lacks merit, why not respond with a civil refutation? You may discount his contribution to the discussion, but your gratuitous put down does nothing but sour the spirit of the Forum.
RE: Whats your opinion about this law?
On paper stonings are against the law. But as we all know the common man ignores the law and defers to cultural practise.
I recently saw a news article (sorry, I'm not going to take the time to search for it) that told of a man who killed his married sister because some texted to his mobile phone that she met some man without her husband's permission.
In the custom of some of those cultures even talking to a man can get you stoned to death. And if a woman is raped she better have three male witnesses who are willing to testify for her or she will be stoned as a whore.
These things are never spoken of in public, but they are true. In my city a Moslem man stabbed his daughter to death because she was becoming Americanized. It was recorded by a court-approved bug because they guy was being passively-monitored by the FBI as a potential terrorist. the tape was played in court and also on the news.
I recently saw a news article (sorry, I'm not going to take the time to search for it) that told of a man who killed his married sister because some texted to his mobile phone that she met some man without her husband's permission.
In the custom of some of those cultures even talking to a man can get you stoned to death. And if a woman is raped she better have three male witnesses who are willing to testify for her or she will be stoned as a whore.
These things are never spoken of in public, but they are true. In my city a Moslem man stabbed his daughter to death because she was becoming Americanized. It was recorded by a court-approved bug because they guy was being passively-monitored by the FBI as a potential terrorist. the tape was played in court and also on the news.
RE: Whats your opinion about this law?
By Sharia Law each and every girl on this site is a whore and subject to death. Absolute and ultimate slow, painful death. No explanation. No excuse. Non-adult and adult hosts included. In fact, in certain neighborhoods a girl could have full arab dress from head to foot and if her face isn't covered she could be severely beaten with sticks and thrown into jail for showing her nose, mouth and chin.
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"If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die."
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but presumably your john post above is more recent and overrides what looks very much like an old testament quote?
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You assume that we all are followers of the "new testament." Not all are believing Christians. Some stop reading when Jesus hit the scene.
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"'Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.'"
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Unless you are a biblical scholar you shouldn't be throwing Bible quotes around. They are easily and often taken out of context by those who have not done deep study.
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Hey! I resemble that remark, it's how I make my millions...lol
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Indeed, but the man is never killed in Sharia, only the woman.
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One of the multiple confirmations that arabian countries live in the Middle age , ruled under tiran Sheiks , Kings or Presidents, and muslim religion the most fanatic , retrogade and male religion. They can open Mezquites in western countries ( It is cultural diversity ) , you can not open any churh , no matter religion , in Saudi Arabia ( It is against the fucked faith of the Mahoma prophet ) .
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You can be blocked at the border if you have anything written in your luggage that is Christian. You can have jewelry with a cross confiscated. God knows what they do to a hispanic guy whose name is Jesus.
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True traveller , but do you know a thing ? i dont care if they declare me "Yihad" , 7 centuries suffering them in Spain , we defeated and expelled muslim and now our "adored" President says a crap about "The Alliance of Civilizations" . Muslim sucks
RE: Whats your opinion about this law?
Tony, I'm not an apologist for any religion. And I can well understand your feelings about the long struggle of the Spanish people during the 'reconquista.' However, it must be said that Muslim Spain was an infinitely more tolerant world than that of Ferdinand & Isabella. In the Muslim Spain, Muslims, Christians & Jews lived and worked together. Much learning from the ancient world was preserved by the cooperative efforts of Muslim, Jewish and Christian scholars. Arab learning and scholarship was enjoying a golden age. The Islam as lived and practiced in Grenada then bears little resemblance to the extremism of a very visible minority that draws our attention today.
This enviroment of peace and tolerance, however, came to an abrupt halt with Ferdinand & Isabella who waisted no time stoking up the fires for the Inquisition.
This enviroment of peace and tolerance, however, came to an abrupt halt with Ferdinand & Isabella who waisted no time stoking up the fires for the Inquisition.
RE: Whats your opinion about this law?
A very nasty practice Gortensia :(
The thought is actually quite stomach churning.
The thought is actually quite stomach churning.
Don't confuse culture with religion & spiritual practice
As is often the case may people (especially westerns) they confuse (conflate) CULTURE with (&) RELIGION. They are NOT THE SAME even those they are intimately connected (as one cannot have one without the other). And certainly real spiritual practice (not belief) is not the same as religion. In this case, when most of you here are speaking of Islam or Muslims you are doing just that—equating religion with culture. Thinking that certain civil and cultural traditions can be equated with Islam, which is a very superficial understanding. And that all or most Muslims are Arabs or mideasterner and they are not!
dear "Analyzer"
This is why the word "radical" or "extremist" is usually used in describing "those people." Please note the qualifier. It's there for a reason.
And do remember that "those people" are the ones who cite the religious reasons for their actions hide behind the sacred text. "They" use IT as their justification for their acts of murder and destruction and subjugation.
When Islamic religious leaders start issuing widely circulating statements condemning the bastardization of their holy texts and when there are demonstrations in the streets of the Middle East protesting murder in the name of Allah, there will be proof of Islam as a religion of peace.
And do remember that "those people" are the ones who cite the religious reasons for their actions hide behind the sacred text. "They" use IT as their justification for their acts of murder and destruction and subjugation.
When Islamic religious leaders start issuing widely circulating statements condemning the bastardization of their holy texts and when there are demonstrations in the streets of the Middle East protesting murder in the name of Allah, there will be proof of Islam as a religion of peace.
To the truthtell (brainwashed?)
Who are "those people" ? Can you tell me? (and after you do please tell me what group you are part of-and if you can't where to you live and what do you do?).
Agreed, some groups do use religious reason justify violence to one degree or another, including some so-called "christian" groups, and nations, by the way. Do you want to talk about that? Thats not my point in any case, my point is that you NEED TO SEPARATE RELIGION FROM CULTURE(s).
Your response show you haven't even gotten the basics of what my point was & is. Most muslims do not live in the Mideast & are not Arab (absolute fact), and you have little idea what your talking about since I am sure most of your information is filtered through mainstream western new media-so you hardly know what going on. I can just as well start the same kind typification of christians as what you do.
Many religions use religious rhetoric, propaganda, and ideology to justify their action, that doesn't mean it good, or has anything to do with the esoteric meaning, practices and beliefs of that religion. Christians for one has historically been used in even more of a bastardized way than almost any religion I know of. Am I pitting Islam against Christianity? NO, and if you interpret it that way you fail to understand my point and are only furthering misunderstanding, ignorence and intolerance. Open you mind.
Agreed, some groups do use religious reason justify violence to one degree or another, including some so-called "christian" groups, and nations, by the way. Do you want to talk about that? Thats not my point in any case, my point is that you NEED TO SEPARATE RELIGION FROM CULTURE(s).
Your response show you haven't even gotten the basics of what my point was & is. Most muslims do not live in the Mideast & are not Arab (absolute fact), and you have little idea what your talking about since I am sure most of your information is filtered through mainstream western new media-so you hardly know what going on. I can just as well start the same kind typification of christians as what you do.
Many religions use religious rhetoric, propaganda, and ideology to justify their action, that doesn't mean it good, or has anything to do with the esoteric meaning, practices and beliefs of that religion. Christians for one has historically been used in even more of a bastardized way than almost any religion I know of. Am I pitting Islam against Christianity? NO, and if you interpret it that way you fail to understand my point and are only furthering misunderstanding, ignorence and intolerance. Open you mind.
RE: To the truthtell (brainwashed?)
I defined "those people" elsewhere, which is why I kept it in quotes.
And why do you insist on the absolute separation of culture and religion? They are inextricably linked, as your culture is firmly linked with your religious heritage - as much as you wish to deny it.
I am well aware that most Muslims live outside the Middle East, but you see, I SEPARATED the religion from the culture. It's why I called for the anti-violence demonstrations to be in the Middle East where the most violent attitudes exist, not worldwide, though worldwide would be great.
Please name one prominent Christian sect that that is currently waging a terroristic war against infidels. Then note all the extremist Islamic religious figures who call for death to the infidels.
Then name one prominent cultural subgroup, other than certain sects of followers of Islam, that not only tolerates, but actively pursues honor killings in these modern times.
Your empty philosophizing has ignored the gist of the original post and a couple of the early responses. What kind of culture can condone stoning a woman based on the rumor that she was seen talking to a man she was not related to or murdering a daughter because living in the midwest and attending public high school she was becoming Americanized.
And why do you insist on the absolute separation of culture and religion? They are inextricably linked, as your culture is firmly linked with your religious heritage - as much as you wish to deny it.
I am well aware that most Muslims live outside the Middle East, but you see, I SEPARATED the religion from the culture. It's why I called for the anti-violence demonstrations to be in the Middle East where the most violent attitudes exist, not worldwide, though worldwide would be great.
Please name one prominent Christian sect that that is currently waging a terroristic war against infidels. Then note all the extremist Islamic religious figures who call for death to the infidels.
Then name one prominent cultural subgroup, other than certain sects of followers of Islam, that not only tolerates, but actively pursues honor killings in these modern times.
Your empty philosophizing has ignored the gist of the original post and a couple of the early responses. What kind of culture can condone stoning a woman based on the rumor that she was seen talking to a man she was not related to or murdering a daughter because living in the midwest and attending public high school she was becoming Americanized.
RE: To the truthtell (brainwashed?)
Nice to see that you're joking. No matter what my personal opinion of that man is, he is not quoting the Bible and the words of Jesus as justification of his most unpopular actions, he cites UN resolutions.
Whether you agree with him or not, note I am only referring to his justifications, not whether he is doing the right thing or not.
Whether you agree with him or not, note I am only referring to his justifications, not whether he is doing the right thing or not.
RE: To the truthtell (brainwashed?)
TT, The original question posed by Gortensia seems to be settled. I think there is not a member here who would defend the cruel and barbaric practice of stoning. However, a rather extended sidebar has developed pertaining more generally to cultural differences, religion & culture, intolerance, etc.
I agree the Bush Doctrine cannot be directly compared to the practices in fundamentalist Islamic countries. However, I must take issue with you as regards the role religion plays in the Bush administration. Bush knows he cannot invoke scripture without catching flak, but he did say publicly to a reporter who asked him who his favorite philosopher is, that it is "Jesus Christ." He has also been unabashed in his support for "faith based initiatives" that have been litigated by those who don't share his unspoken belief that separation of church should be abolished. He can't say that directly, of course, but he need not because his Christian Fundamentalist base of supporters (80-90 million) says it for him. Never mind that he should be vocally opposing this group as a matter of his sworn duty to uphold the Constitution that requires that separation of church and state. Never mind that if that powerful Evangelical base had its druthers, it would turn this government into a Calvinist-style theocracy. With "faith based initiatives," the camel already has its nose in the tent.
As I've already said, I'm not an apologist for any religion. Indeed history shows much blood has been spilled and continues to be spilled invoking the name of God. Only Buddhism has had no war fought in its name. Bush et al. are not as egregious in promulgating their anti-democratic doctrine. They can't be; they must be subtler. This is where the sinister art of propaganda comes in. Karl Rove and others are quite skilled in conveying an unmistakable message about Good & Evil. Bush’s language is not as medieval as the "enemy," but it is, at bottom, just as provocative and belies the claim that it is committed to peace and genuine democracy.
I agree the Bush Doctrine cannot be directly compared to the practices in fundamentalist Islamic countries. However, I must take issue with you as regards the role religion plays in the Bush administration. Bush knows he cannot invoke scripture without catching flak, but he did say publicly to a reporter who asked him who his favorite philosopher is, that it is "Jesus Christ." He has also been unabashed in his support for "faith based initiatives" that have been litigated by those who don't share his unspoken belief that separation of church should be abolished. He can't say that directly, of course, but he need not because his Christian Fundamentalist base of supporters (80-90 million) says it for him. Never mind that he should be vocally opposing this group as a matter of his sworn duty to uphold the Constitution that requires that separation of church and state. Never mind that if that powerful Evangelical base had its druthers, it would turn this government into a Calvinist-style theocracy. With "faith based initiatives," the camel already has its nose in the tent.
As I've already said, I'm not an apologist for any religion. Indeed history shows much blood has been spilled and continues to be spilled invoking the name of God. Only Buddhism has had no war fought in its name. Bush et al. are not as egregious in promulgating their anti-democratic doctrine. They can't be; they must be subtler. This is where the sinister art of propaganda comes in. Karl Rove and others are quite skilled in conveying an unmistakable message about Good & Evil. Bush’s language is not as medieval as the "enemy," but it is, at bottom, just as provocative and belies the claim that it is committed to peace and genuine democracy.
When mans will? :))))))
I wonder when in those parts of the world mans will be punished the same for the same sin....
RE: When mans will? :))))))
yes that will sure happen real soon, i am so sure of that. yep sure
equal rights? never happen
equal rights? never happen
RE: When mans will? :))))))
was not laughing because i think it is actually funny
i find it quite sad actually. :( women should have the same rights as men
i find it quite sad actually. :( women should have the same rights as men
RE: When mans will? :))))))
sometimes we do...sometimes we do not...depends of what mans want...
RE: Whats your opinion about this law?
I have no time for any extreme religions and that's that
RE: Whats your opinion about this law?
You're not a girl with a family or culture like that. Thank God for that. ok?
RE: Whats your opinion about this law?
many muslims have come to britain followed by ignorant conservative mullahs who persuade rthem that they must follow such practices. personally i think those who cannot follow the customs of england should return from whence they came taking their ghastly sharia law with them. all immigration through marriage should be stopped too.
RE: Whats your opinion about this law?
i do agree with most of what you said, people should really adopt the basic lifestyles of the country they are living in. kind of like learning the dam language of the country you will live in!
immigration because of marriage.... well for those who wish to skirt the law this way, of course, but there are a lot of people that marry for love.
immigration because of marriage.... well for those who wish to skirt the law this way, of course, but there are a lot of people that marry for love.
RE: just saying hello
haha u that important? wow
no i do not only pray about you going to sleep
but good to see you think so high of yourself! :D
no i do not only pray about you going to sleep
but good to see you think so high of yourself! :D
RE: just saying hello
go bac to bed little Bebe
it is time for adults to be awake :P
chick with no name? funny :D
it is time for adults to be awake :P
chick with no name? funny :D
Pvt msgs in Comm Chat
When you are in comm chat and get a pvt msg, do you check out the profile and her pics then decide if you will ignore her or start chatting?
I know I do :D
I know I do :D
RE: Pvt msgs in Comm Chat
Yes - but I normally check pics when a new girl enters room. So usually know whether to ignore her anyway :)
RE: Pvt msgs in Comm Chat
hell i get ignored by my own family.they had to tie a bone round my neck as a child to get the dog to play with me but after a few licks he only wanted to cock his leg :(((
RE: Pvt msgs in Comm Chat
how do you talk in chat if you are looking at girls pics?i usually chat first & if they seem cool then check their pics.
RE: Pvt msgs in Comm Chat
For a casual hello, i agree. But if there is any idea of going further I always check the profile to see if she is a body-type that is attractive to me.
RE: Pvt msgs in Comm Chat
if you never send pvt msgs. hopw can you know you might meet some great people?
RE: Pvt msgs in Comm Chat
Perhaps someone told her. You must remember that strange thing called conversation.Despite what a lot of people on here the girls do talk even when they aren't being paid.
free the emoticons....
i think if we all get together we might be able to dig a tunnel under commchat & get the emoticons out from their chat prison.who is with me?"free the emoticons,free the emoticons..."
RE: free the emoticons....
Why free them? They should be able to shoot their way out with the uzi
RE: free the emoticons....
one uzi will not get them all out & we can't afford to lose any of the little darling emoticons. PacMan i got the tools i just need the muscle. can you contact super mario for me.he is just the man for the job.we must release them from their illegal incaceration. "free the emoticons,free the emoticons..."
RE: free the emoticons....
i will tell you a secret friend.i was born a fool the craziness has only come with experience.imagine how cool i will be when dementia sets in but that's still 40 years away i'm hoping.so friend are you into helping with the great escape?it could be our crowning glory seeing the little animated darlings escape."free the emoticons,free the emoticons..."
RE: free the emoticons....
Well now that I know Polina and Lena are going to be giving them a safe home not only will I help them escape but I will escape with them :D
RE: free the emoticons....
Dangerous beasts, these new emoticons. I went into the window to see one this morning and was jumped by a bunch of them. It took ages to round the little bas***ds up and put them back.
RE: free the emoticons....
PW you know i have never been ok :))i am just trying to add some humor here & try to save the emoticons while i'm at it.you want to help save them.we can be like greenpeace saving the whales."free the emoticons,free the emoticons..."i can tell you want to join PW(K)
RE: free the emoticons....
olgaolga i was so moved by the plight of the emoticons it has made my normally unstable self finally have a crusade to focus my energies on.oh by the way missed you(K)"free the emoticons,free the emoticons..."
RE: free the emoticons....
FB i have given your kind & generous offer much consideration & i think that with PacMan,supermario,friend & myself we have the muscle to dig them out.no need for you to get dirty but i think if you,PW & olgaolga can provide a safe haven for the little darlings when we have helped them escape it would be much appreciated.just until they are back on their feet & their new playground is ready.us guys will guard you as you tend to the little darlings & keep the emoticon haters away. i love it when a plan comes together."All we are saying is give emoticons a chance..."(with apologies to J.Lennon.)
RE: free the emoticons....
dear olgaolga even when you are alert & awake it's unlikely you will make much sense of my"crazy fool"rantings but you understood the best part(. hope you slept well.K K)
RE: free the emoticons....
when does this mission start? when will the freedom fighters finally get a chance to free the emoticons??
RE: free the emoticons....
I think I have a muppet to replace the emoticons, when we free them. No one will ever notice they have gone. :-)
RE: free the emoticons....
I know what it's like to be caged up. I'll get some barrels to toss around and set them free.
ONE FOR TOMORROW , mightnot be here then..
An American tourist pulls over the Hertz car in the middle of nowhere for a pee. Suddenly a bloke jumps out from behind a tree, pointing a shotgun at him. “Pull yourself off”, he orders.
“What?”
“Masturbate. Right now!”
Nervously, the tourist obliges.
“Now, do it again”.
“I can’t do it again”
“DO it again!”
So the tourist masturbates for a second time.
“Okay, once more”
“I couldn’t do it once more, no matter what. You may as well shoot me.”
“No, that’s fine. Now you can give my sister a lift to the next town.”
“What?”
“Masturbate. Right now!”
Nervously, the tourist obliges.
“Now, do it again”.
“I can’t do it again”
“DO it again!”
So the tourist masturbates for a second time.
“Okay, once more”
“I couldn’t do it once more, no matter what. You may as well shoot me.”
“No, that’s fine. Now you can give my sister a lift to the next town.”
The Tong Master!
The Tong Master!
The Tong-Master Griff was at the barbecue and Joel was at the barbecue and I was at the barbecue; three men standing around a barbecue, sipping beer, staring at sausages, rolling them backwards and forwards, never leaving them alone. We didn't know why we were at the barbecue; we were just drawn there like moths to a flame. The barbecue was a powerful gravitational force, a man-magnet.
Joel said the thin ones could use a turn, I said yeah I reckon the thin ones could use a turn, Griff said yeah they really need a turn it was a unanimous turning decision. Griff was the Tong-Master, a true artist, he gave a couple of practice snaps of his long silver tongs, SNAP SNAP, before moving in, prodding, teasing, and with an elegant flick of his wrist, rolling them onto their little backs. A lesser tong-man would've flicked too hard; the sausages would've gone full circle, back to where they started. Nice, I said. The others went yeah.
Kevin was passing us, he heard the siren-song- sizzle of the snags, the barbecue was calling, beckoning, Kevinnnnn ...come. He stuck his head in and said any room? We said yeah and began the barbecue shuffle; Griff shuffled to the left, Joel shuffled to the left, I shuffled to the left, Kevin slipped in beside me, we sipped our beer. Now there were four of us staring at sausages, and Griff gave me the nod, my cue. I was second-in-command, and I had to take the raw sausages out of the plastic bag and lay them on the barbecue; not too close together, not too far apart, curl them into each other's bodies like lovers -fat ones, thin ones, herbed and continental. The chipolatas were tiny, they could easily slip down between the grill, falling into the molten hot-bead-netherworld below. Carefully I laid them sideways ACROSS the grill, clever thinking. Griff snapped his tongs with approval; there was no greater barbecue honour.
P.J. came along, he said looking good, looking good -the irresistible lure of the barbecue had pulled him in too. We said yeah and did the shuffle, left, left, left, left, he slipped in beside Kevin, we sipped our beer. Five men,lots of sausages.
Joel was the Fork-pronger; he had the fork that pronged thetough hides of the Bavarian bratwursts and he showed a lot of promise. Stabbing away eagerly, leaving perfect little vampire holes up and down the casing. P.J. was shaking his head, he said I reckon they cook better if you don't poke them.
There was a long silence, you could have heard a chipolata drop, and this newcomer was a rabble-rouser, bringing in his crazy ideas from outside. He didn't understand the hierarchy; first the Tong-master, then the Sausage-layer, then the Fork-pronger -and everyone below was just a watcher. Maybe eventually they'll move up the ladder, but for now - don't rock the Weber.
Dianne popped her head in; hmmm, smells good, she said. She was trying to jostle into the circle; we closed ranks, pulling our heads down and our shoulders in, mumbling yeah yeah yeah, but making no room for her. She was keen, going round to the far side of the barbecue, heading for the only available space . . . the gap in the circle where all the smoke and ashes blew. Nobody could survivethe gap; Dianne was going to try. She stood there stubbornly, smoke blinding her eyes, ashes filling her nostrils, sausage fat spattering all over her arms and face. Until she couldn't take it anymore, she gave up, backed off. Kevin waited till she was gone and sipped his beer. We sipped our beer, yeah.
Griff handed me his tongs. I looked at him and he nodded. I knew what was happening, I'd waited a long time for this moment - the abdication. The tongs weighed heavy in my hands, firm in my grip. Was I ready for the responsibility?
Yes, I was. I held them up high and they glinted in the sun. Don't forget to turn the thin ones Griff said as he walked away from the barbecue, disappearing toward the house. Yeah I called back, I will, I will. I snapped them twice,
SNAP SNAP, before moving in, prodding, teasing, and with an elegant flick of my wrist, rolling them back onto their little bellies. I was a natural, I was the TONG-MASTER. But only until Griff got back from the toilet.
The Tong-Master Griff was at the barbecue and Joel was at the barbecue and I was at the barbecue; three men standing around a barbecue, sipping beer, staring at sausages, rolling them backwards and forwards, never leaving them alone. We didn't know why we were at the barbecue; we were just drawn there like moths to a flame. The barbecue was a powerful gravitational force, a man-magnet.
Joel said the thin ones could use a turn, I said yeah I reckon the thin ones could use a turn, Griff said yeah they really need a turn it was a unanimous turning decision. Griff was the Tong-Master, a true artist, he gave a couple of practice snaps of his long silver tongs, SNAP SNAP, before moving in, prodding, teasing, and with an elegant flick of his wrist, rolling them onto their little backs. A lesser tong-man would've flicked too hard; the sausages would've gone full circle, back to where they started. Nice, I said. The others went yeah.
Kevin was passing us, he heard the siren-song- sizzle of the snags, the barbecue was calling, beckoning, Kevinnnnn ...come. He stuck his head in and said any room? We said yeah and began the barbecue shuffle; Griff shuffled to the left, Joel shuffled to the left, I shuffled to the left, Kevin slipped in beside me, we sipped our beer. Now there were four of us staring at sausages, and Griff gave me the nod, my cue. I was second-in-command, and I had to take the raw sausages out of the plastic bag and lay them on the barbecue; not too close together, not too far apart, curl them into each other's bodies like lovers -fat ones, thin ones, herbed and continental. The chipolatas were tiny, they could easily slip down between the grill, falling into the molten hot-bead-netherworld below. Carefully I laid them sideways ACROSS the grill, clever thinking. Griff snapped his tongs with approval; there was no greater barbecue honour.
P.J. came along, he said looking good, looking good -the irresistible lure of the barbecue had pulled him in too. We said yeah and did the shuffle, left, left, left, left, he slipped in beside Kevin, we sipped our beer. Five men,lots of sausages.
Joel was the Fork-pronger; he had the fork that pronged thetough hides of the Bavarian bratwursts and he showed a lot of promise. Stabbing away eagerly, leaving perfect little vampire holes up and down the casing. P.J. was shaking his head, he said I reckon they cook better if you don't poke them.
There was a long silence, you could have heard a chipolata drop, and this newcomer was a rabble-rouser, bringing in his crazy ideas from outside. He didn't understand the hierarchy; first the Tong-master, then the Sausage-layer, then the Fork-pronger -and everyone below was just a watcher. Maybe eventually they'll move up the ladder, but for now - don't rock the Weber.
Dianne popped her head in; hmmm, smells good, she said. She was trying to jostle into the circle; we closed ranks, pulling our heads down and our shoulders in, mumbling yeah yeah yeah, but making no room for her. She was keen, going round to the far side of the barbecue, heading for the only available space . . . the gap in the circle where all the smoke and ashes blew. Nobody could survivethe gap; Dianne was going to try. She stood there stubbornly, smoke blinding her eyes, ashes filling her nostrils, sausage fat spattering all over her arms and face. Until she couldn't take it anymore, she gave up, backed off. Kevin waited till she was gone and sipped his beer. We sipped our beer, yeah.
Griff handed me his tongs. I looked at him and he nodded. I knew what was happening, I'd waited a long time for this moment - the abdication. The tongs weighed heavy in my hands, firm in my grip. Was I ready for the responsibility?
Yes, I was. I held them up high and they glinted in the sun. Don't forget to turn the thin ones Griff said as he walked away from the barbecue, disappearing toward the house. Yeah I called back, I will, I will. I snapped them twice,
SNAP SNAP, before moving in, prodding, teasing, and with an elegant flick of my wrist, rolling them back onto their little bellies. I was a natural, I was the TONG-MASTER. But only until Griff got back from the toilet.
RE: The Tong Master!
The ladies don't get that...we men...we know!
Classic, gete...is there more tomorrow?
Reminds me of weekends at my best friend's house...but his stories end up with throwing up...yeah...lots of beers there at his house on the weekends!
Classic, gete...is there more tomorrow?
Reminds me of weekends at my best friend's house...but his stories end up with throwing up...yeah...lots of beers there at his house on the weekends!
Song
Does anyone know a song (I think it's a country song) that has the lyrics: Headin West.......another town...another place....Headin West.......; Might be Heading instead of headin?? Song stuck in my head.......but this is the only part of the song I can remember.
RE: Song
HEADIN' WEST, ANOTHER TOWN ANOTHER PLACE
LEFT ALLEMANDE, GRAND RIGHT AND LEFT THE SQUARE
LEAVIN' BAD TIMES BEHIND YOU, I'M BOUND FOR MOVIN' ON
YOU PROMENADE YOUR GAL, I'M HEADIN' WEST
LEFT ALLEMANDE, GRAND RIGHT AND LEFT THE SQUARE
LEAVIN' BAD TIMES BEHIND YOU, I'M BOUND FOR MOVIN' ON
YOU PROMENADE YOUR GAL, I'M HEADIN' WEST
it's my song
I got a hundred doller bill in my right boot
been saving it for a rainy day
I got a tank full of gaaaas in the pickup
the suitcase and the guitar that I play
somethings telling me its time for moving
I've never been a one to sit and wait
I'm gonna hit that state lineeee in a feeling state of mind
never looking back the other way.
Heading West... another town another place, Heading West
with the sunshine in my face
leaving badtimes behind me about a moving on
got i've everything I own i'm Heading West
I've thinking about a leaving for a long time
and there ain't nothing standing in my way
i've got time and a half cheque a comming
from a job I was working till today
there is no one to meet me here in the morning
and there is no one begging me to stay
on my sundown tonight I'lll be rolling out of sight
long gone and nothing left to say
Heading West... another town another place, heading West
with the sunshine in my face
leaving badtimes behind me about a moving on
got i've everything I own i'm Heading West
Heading West another town another place, Heading West
with the sunshine in my face
leaving badtimes behind me about a moving on
got i've everything I own i'm heading west
been saving it for a rainy day
I got a tank full of gaaaas in the pickup
the suitcase and the guitar that I play
somethings telling me its time for moving
I've never been a one to sit and wait
I'm gonna hit that state lineeee in a feeling state of mind
never looking back the other way.
Heading West... another town another place, Heading West
with the sunshine in my face
leaving badtimes behind me about a moving on
got i've everything I own i'm Heading West
I've thinking about a leaving for a long time
and there ain't nothing standing in my way
i've got time and a half cheque a comming
from a job I was working till today
there is no one to meet me here in the morning
and there is no one begging me to stay
on my sundown tonight I'lll be rolling out of sight
long gone and nothing left to say
Heading West... another town another place, heading West
with the sunshine in my face
leaving badtimes behind me about a moving on
got i've everything I own i'm Heading West
Heading West another town another place, Heading West
with the sunshine in my face
leaving badtimes behind me about a moving on
got i've everything I own i'm heading west
RE: for Dan
Maybe you think "Headin' West"? LOL
It's from my 1992 album "The Songwriter." I'm glad you like it. It's not the most-loved song on that album.
I'll be playing in North Carolina next Friday night. I hope you'll try to come. Should I leave your name at the door?
http://www.dansealsfanpage.com or
http://www.delafont.com/music_acts/Dan-Seals.htm
It's from my 1992 album "The Songwriter." I'm glad you like it. It's not the most-loved song on that album.
I'll be playing in North Carolina next Friday night. I hope you'll try to come. Should I leave your name at the door?
http://www.dansealsfanpage.com or
http://www.delafont.com/music_acts/Dan-Seals.htm
RE: Song
Heading west with my denim vest
heading west where I can get some rest
Forget the east, wife is a beast
Forget the south, I got a purtty mouth
Come on ya'll hillbillies, sing along
heading west where I can get some rest
Forget the east, wife is a beast
Forget the south, I got a purtty mouth
Come on ya'll hillbillies, sing along
RE: New Comm Chat
I'm not a big fan of the animated icons, but I can live with those. However, I hate the new font they're using. The old font is much more legible to my tired, old eyes.
RE: New Comm Chat.Cons
Hi Vera, just tried to go in commchat too, in the top of the page you will see a message there : Try this or use the old version, if you click on that message you will get the old version back. I hope it help, hugs!
RE: New Comm Chat.Cons
no we can't go back to the old one.it's the 21st century,i hear.we are not techno dinosaurs we just need the emoticons freed.it's like they are in guantanemo(hope that is the spelling)"free the emoticons,free the emoticons..."
RE: New Comm Chat.Cons
yes gortensia i agree! release the emoticons from their chat imprisonment.let them have their own little playground back.come on people say it with me"free the emoticons,free the emoticons..."
RE: New Comm Chat
Until now all messages about the new Comm Chat were censored for some reason. Rather than address the posts they blocked them.
God, I remember 4 or 5 years ago when such posts would start a lively forum debate between cc office staff and members. We knew staffers by name and there was even flirting between members and office staff.
If I'm not wrong I think one staff member was even convinced to open a room and host a couple times in Non-Adult. ;-)
God, I remember 4 or 5 years ago when such posts would start a lively forum debate between cc office staff and members. We knew staffers by name and there was even flirting between members and office staff.
If I'm not wrong I think one staff member was even convinced to open a room and host a couple times in Non-Adult. ;-)
RE: New Comm Chat
hate it hate it hate it.i hate the way the emotes window is now.i'll use the old one thanks.if it ain't broke,don't fix it.
looking for reasons why a studio would disallow its "workers" to communicate freely
hey folks,
just lately i have heard the rumours again, that some studios disallow people to use any other media than cc chat for communication with us.
For me its clear: they will lose me as a customer. i do not tolerate this.
But nonetheless, what do you think about it? Whats the advantage of creating a concentration camp like this? Why to cut freedom? Whats all the sense?
just lately i have heard the rumours again, that some studios disallow people to use any other media than cc chat for communication with us.
For me its clear: they will lose me as a customer. i do not tolerate this.
But nonetheless, what do you think about it? Whats the advantage of creating a concentration camp like this? Why to cut freedom? Whats all the sense?
RE: looking for reasons why a studio would disallow its
It is a workplace and if hosts are wasting time on Yahoo they are not trying to get viewers. I'm the boss. It's my place of business. I make the rules.
RE: looking for reasons why a studio would disallow its
ok. you are the boss. you own the stuff people work with. you make the rules. right.
but why limiting the hosts in that freedom? are you not aiming yourself, when you lose customers just because of that? customers, who are used to chat with the hosts?
is it all only about obvious efficiency? like: the output must be visible right now and right here?
for me its a weird rule. plus i am disappointed.
but why limiting the hosts in that freedom? are you not aiming yourself, when you lose customers just because of that? customers, who are used to chat with the hosts?
is it all only about obvious efficiency? like: the output must be visible right now and right here?
for me its a weird rule. plus i am disappointed.
RE: looking for reasons why a studio would disallow its
I have to agree with the boss, they are employees, it is his business,he invested in it,he makes the rules, and quite frankly if someone don't like the rules they don't have to work there. This is the same with my job,if i don't follow the rules and do what my employer says then I'm out of a job.Why is this site any different???????????????????????/
RE: looking for reasons why a studio would disallow its
Yes, except for the ones who are chatting with their friends in Yahoo and trying to juggle chat in her room as well. Plus some of the Viewers using one2one were complaining that the girls were talking to others as the Viewer wanted them exclusively.
RE: looking for reasons why a studio would disallow its
It's not just to the Boss's disadvantage. The girls are here to make money - the less show time they do, the less they get. Simple.
I know of at least one 'host' who sits chatting to her friends via ICQ, and then complains about how little money she makes. She also has the highest rates I've ever seen here so I think she's living in a dream world. LOL
I know of at least one 'host' who sits chatting to her friends via ICQ, and then complains about how little money she makes. She also has the highest rates I've ever seen here so I think she's living in a dream world. LOL
RE: looking for reasons why a studio would disallow its
it's good if she is living in a dream world.it is a fantasy site after all!
RE: looking for reasons why a studio would disallow its
Just my honest opinion,, Trash it if you want. I used to chat with my old chat host friend on yahoo... both before and after our meets... often I would know she was in her room when the yahoo went online... I did not abuse it... In fact if we were chatting and she said she was Busy I politely stayed quiet till SHE said she had no customers.
it is possible to chat on it ( yahoo) and get some customers to go to the room.... Hence not a total loss
Honestly it can be used and NOT abused.... by everyone..
IF I understand the " boss" post and others they expect a chat host to do absolutely nothing but stare straight at one chathost console ONLY AND NOTHING ELSE even if they are not in a session ???? While i understand the motives it really seems somethings can be taken to harsh extremes...
While I don't say a chat host , or viewers should abuse her other chat means during a session... be it yahoo, or icq... or what ever.... whats the harm between sessions if it is not abused and can still generate some traffic ?
Just some thoughts :)
We arer all human beings here btw.
it is possible to chat on it ( yahoo) and get some customers to go to the room.... Hence not a total loss
Honestly it can be used and NOT abused.... by everyone..
IF I understand the " boss" post and others they expect a chat host to do absolutely nothing but stare straight at one chathost console ONLY AND NOTHING ELSE even if they are not in a session ???? While i understand the motives it really seems somethings can be taken to harsh extremes...
While I don't say a chat host , or viewers should abuse her other chat means during a session... be it yahoo, or icq... or what ever.... whats the harm between sessions if it is not abused and can still generate some traffic ?
Just some thoughts :)
We arer all human beings here btw.
RE: looking for reasons why a studio would disallow its
if i understand the question, which i dont but anyways.....................
they are at work , work is work an at work most ppl work. if im at work but im on my cell an someone is paying each minute and im busy talking to friends on phone, do you think he will come back, i bet her boss doesnt see any problem with her talking on the fone with friends. forgot females name, but if she is reading this, then she knows that those 2 calls she took cost her and her boss one viewer, and i bet more then just me at that.
they are at work , work is work an at work most ppl work. if im at work but im on my cell an someone is paying each minute and im busy talking to friends on phone, do you think he will come back, i bet her boss doesnt see any problem with her talking on the fone with friends. forgot females name, but if she is reading this, then she knows that those 2 calls she took cost her and her boss one viewer, and i bet more then just me at that.
RE: looking for reasons why a studio would disallow its
maybe just to make it more clear:
when an employer at a studio talks to me by yahoo or whatever, out of a video, then its means for me: keeping the relationship to a customer. so that he might return, earlier or later.
so the chat on yahoo or any other media belongs to the job.
i know its my definition. if i would lead a firm comparable to a studio, i would do everything to keep the people in touch.
when an employer at a studio talks to me by yahoo or whatever, out of a video, then its means for me: keeping the relationship to a customer. so that he might return, earlier or later.
so the chat on yahoo or any other media belongs to the job.
i know its my definition. if i would lead a firm comparable to a studio, i would do everything to keep the people in touch.
RE: looking for reasons why a studio would disallow its
If all the girls immediately stop Yahoo whenever a customer comes into her chat and if she promises to troll the free chatrooms trying to get new customers and has success in that I'll think about changing the rule.
RE: looking for reasons why a studio would disallow its
I find it frustrating when I can't communicate via yahoo and now with the cam to cam not always working you often need yahoo to send your cam. I appreciate why you made the rule but try to relax it a little
RE: looking for reasons why a studio would disallow its
its coz some girls try to do private sessions on yahoo cutting out boss and cc
Other sites
Reason is simple, CamC allows to exchange freely phone nmbers and Yahoo names, but many other sites not. Since studios work at same time in different sites, bosses set rules following more strict standards with a clear disadvantange to CamC customers.
RE: Other sites
Bone N Skin is right re: studio bosses making the rules for the girls who work there. CC is one of the most reasonable and respectful of the sites in their treatment of both their employees and their customers.
The irony of the studio bosses making rules for the girls is that they often do so as a cover for the rules that they themselves are breaking. For most, if not all of these sites the studios agree---in what I can only suppose is an unwritten agreement, since these places operate unlawfully and they would have no legitimate leagal recourse--- that they will sell the services of one site exclusively. However, they are often agents for 3, 4, 5 or even more studios at the same time. If the studios do not at least keep up some semblance of complying with the agreements, the site will not allow them to sell their services.
At bottom, the sites' rule against private communication between hosts and guests is mainly designed to prevent a host and guest from cutting their own deal and leaving the site (middle man, or less politely, pimp) out of it.
The irony of the studio bosses making rules for the girls is that they often do so as a cover for the rules that they themselves are breaking. For most, if not all of these sites the studios agree---in what I can only suppose is an unwritten agreement, since these places operate unlawfully and they would have no legitimate leagal recourse--- that they will sell the services of one site exclusively. However, they are often agents for 3, 4, 5 or even more studios at the same time. If the studios do not at least keep up some semblance of complying with the agreements, the site will not allow them to sell their services.
At bottom, the sites' rule against private communication between hosts and guests is mainly designed to prevent a host and guest from cutting their own deal and leaving the site (middle man, or less politely, pimp) out of it.
RE: Other sites
Some sites will close a host's room and even the entire studio on the mere report of violation of their rules. Therefore we must balance the need to conduct business in such a way to protect our workers' livelihood. Yes, we do show on more than one chatsite, but those of us who know how to conduct business do this seamlessly.
A properly conducted chatroom will give the illusion you guys are seeking. No, it won't stand up to detectives who troll site after site trying to prove a host is available elsewhere, but a thoughtful host will provide the service you are paying for.
If one of my hosts shows evidence in one2one of scanning other monitors or typing to someone else, I consider that a failure on her part. In open video such things are possible though I discourage it.
A properly conducted chatroom will give the illusion you guys are seeking. No, it won't stand up to detectives who troll site after site trying to prove a host is available elsewhere, but a thoughtful host will provide the service you are paying for.
If one of my hosts shows evidence in one2one of scanning other monitors or typing to someone else, I consider that a failure on her part. In open video such things are possible though I discourage it.
RE: Other sites
i may be confused but the boss sounds american. Is there an american studio suddenly
RE: Other sites
why do americans named pat change their name & why do they become studio bosses?are the two related?now the mystery deepens.after i have freed the emoticons,i will turn my attention to this great riddle.now i have another crusade.
RE: Other sites - P.S.
When other sites have closed hosts' accounts they refused to pay any money owed by claiming it was a fine for rule violation. As far as I know even when CC has gone to the extreme point of closing a host's room they have paid the monies due.
RE: Other sites - P.S.
we've gone off the subject now. I still think yahoo or msn should be allowed. the hosts are here to have fun too
RE: Other sites - P.S.
Ahhh... My aoplogies. I didn't know your boss let you have 2 hours lunches ans play video games while the customers are not being helped.
RE: looking for reasons why a studio would disallow its
Ahhhhhh, I believe that you are promoting after-sales customer service where the host contacts with the customer to check that all was well with the purchased product. A great idea and one that maybe hosts should consider.
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re:xpamellax
i was wrong and I apologise unreservedly for any offence or trouble caused. I cannot undo what was said but i now believe that there was no fault by xpamellax and i am solely to blame. James
RE: re:xpamellax
Freedom of speech gives me the right to say whatever I want.
Some agree with this statement 100%, to the others I say "Ya Vol mein furrer"
Some agree with this statement 100%, to the others I say "Ya Vol mein furrer"
poor bobo77
i m a long time user and i can tell olga is really a nice woman but maybe u need another kind of woman. if u want a woman who ll become naked in 2min i can give u some nicknames. Pls don t forget olda is not a doll she s a woman.
pls if ur too much poor for talk with intelligent girl go asians they can tell "pussy, tits,cock cum.... " just what u want i think.
take care of u
pls if ur too much poor for talk with intelligent girl go asians they can tell "pussy, tits,cock cum.... " just what u want i think.
take care of u
RE: poor bobo77
don't start saying rude things about asian girls while defending this girl , it's just stupid... not every asian girl fits ur stereotype , damn...
RE: xpamellax
Sorry cutie you may like taking the money but you have to show something. Dont let this girl con you you aint going to see anything.You get to see more in non-nude, be warned
RE: xpamellax
greedy? i can look at girls on London streets and see more i dont expect to pay $16 just to chat I could do that in community chat.
pammy is just out for the easy money
pammy is just out for the easy money
RE: xpamellax
So you saying she puts out for you. You must have a big one or something to make her get it off
RE: xpamellax
as an economist you know how to make money .Some of your "friends" must have more money than sence. I just met sexangelx in a l b shy and she was perfect. Maybe your body is not so perfect and talk is easy. Get a life Olga. Stop taking mugs for a ride
RE: xpamellax
<<I offered 121 and she said no>>
If she was greedy for money, then why did she refuse 121? Think about it.
If she was greedy for money, then why did she refuse 121? Think about it.
RE: xpamellax
he can not get the past the fact he was rejected! no thought process is involved here for sure. he is just pissed and wants to make trouble for her.
there are 1000's of host here.... why bitch and moan, why not just move on! this is just so stupid!
there are 1000's of host here.... why bitch and moan, why not just move on! this is just so stupid!
RE: xpamellax
So are you saying she will show or just a tease? Cos i am confused.
Is she just choosy?
Is she just choosy?
RE: xpamellax
shes in cc she cant be that shy. And i did not ask for legs around her ears. I tried several times and got im not in the mood,come back later , wait till you have a cam. There is only so much you can take.
RE: xpamellax
havent you got cam bobo77? There is the problem .Buy one , it is possible bobo77 . She does it
RE: xpamellax
well she does not seem to want to .you must have the knack. Is it worth it is she as sexy as she looks
RE: xpamellax
I can hardly fault her when I see her, mind you I try to be polite and friendly, she is not a pushover if that is what you want in a woman.
RE: xpamellax
well he knows u intimately so he must be in your good books. Maybe hes the one with the biggest cheque book. Or maybe u got confused one day and opened your legs too wide
RE: xpamellax
all this fuss over $16??
if she blatantly lied to you promising something beforehand that she refused to do in video then why not complain to cc rather than here, viewers forum and community chat. people often say how good their customer service is.
if you were careless enough not to discuss the show with her before you went to video then it is really just your own fault - after all, her profile and pictures do not really suggest that she is going to give a near instant action show and should probably have been a warning to check with her first
if she blatantly lied to you promising something beforehand that she refused to do in video then why not complain to cc rather than here, viewers forum and community chat. people often say how good their customer service is.
if you were careless enough not to discuss the show with her before you went to video then it is really just your own fault - after all, her profile and pictures do not really suggest that she is going to give a near instant action show and should probably have been a warning to check with her first
RE: xpamellax
so then why dont you move on? why you sit here bitching? why not just save your money... dont give it to her, you will surly teach her a lesson with not giving her your loose pocket change and give it to someone else... that should really make her jealous!
but you will keep posting dumb stuff i am sure :D
but you will keep posting dumb stuff i am sure :D
RE: xpamellax
take the hint bobo and try another. Obviously Olga is different with some people, we can't all like the same things thank goodness. I like Olga
RE: xpamellax
Like there are "little shy" and "not so shy" categories for the hosts, maybe we need to create "little looser" and "not so looser" categories for the guests... :)
Girls here are workers... not slaves... and they are free to do what they want in "little shy"... and you are free to visit them if you agree with CC rules... !!!!!
Girls here are workers... not slaves... and they are free to do what they want in "little shy"... and you are free to visit them if you agree with CC rules... !!!!!
Another joke
An Australian guy decides to travel around the Greek Islands. He walks into a bar and Jill (the Australian Barmaid) takes his order, a Fosters, and notices his accent. Over the course of the night they get to know each other.
At the end of Jill's shift he asks her if she wants to come back to his place and have sex with him. Although she is attracted to him she says no. He then offers to pay her $200 for sex. Jill is travelling the world and because she is short of funds she agrees.
The next night the guy turns up again, orders Fosters and after showing her plenty of attention throughout the night he asks if she will sleep with him again for $200. Jill remembers the night before and is only too happy to agree.
This goes on for 5 nights. On the 6th night the guy comes in, orders Fosters and sits in the corner. Jill thinks that if she pays him more some attention then maybe she can then shake some more cash out of him again, so she goes over and sits next to him.
She asks him where he's from in Australia and he tells her: "Melbourne".
"So am I... What suburb in Melbourne?"
"Glen Iris" he replies
"That's amazing..." she says, "So am I - what Street?"
"Cameo Street" he replies
"This is unbelievable..." she says,"What number?"
He says "Number 20" and she is totally astonished.
"You are not going to believe this but I'm from Number 22! My parents still live there!"
"I know..." he says, "Your Father gave me $1,000 to give to you"
HE WHO DRINKS AUSTRALIAN THINKS AUSTRALIAN!
At the end of Jill's shift he asks her if she wants to come back to his place and have sex with him. Although she is attracted to him she says no. He then offers to pay her $200 for sex. Jill is travelling the world and because she is short of funds she agrees.
The next night the guy turns up again, orders Fosters and after showing her plenty of attention throughout the night he asks if she will sleep with him again for $200. Jill remembers the night before and is only too happy to agree.
This goes on for 5 nights. On the 6th night the guy comes in, orders Fosters and sits in the corner. Jill thinks that if she pays him more some attention then maybe she can then shake some more cash out of him again, so she goes over and sits next to him.
She asks him where he's from in Australia and he tells her: "Melbourne".
"So am I... What suburb in Melbourne?"
"Glen Iris" he replies
"That's amazing..." she says, "So am I - what Street?"
"Cameo Street" he replies
"This is unbelievable..." she says,"What number?"
He says "Number 20" and she is totally astonished.
"You are not going to believe this but I'm from Number 22! My parents still live there!"
"I know..." he says, "Your Father gave me $1,000 to give to you"
HE WHO DRINKS AUSTRALIAN THINKS AUSTRALIAN!
MILLY!!!!
Where is Melagry?
Plz
help me to find her!!!
I am going to meet her in real
Anybody knows?
Plz
help me to find her!!!
I am going to meet her in real
Anybody knows?
RE: MILLY!!!!
maybe she does not know he is going to meet her in real.that's why he is asking where she is,he wants her address.but Shhhhhhh its a secret. hehe!!
RE: MILLY!!!!
Let me get this straight. You are planning to go meet this girl in real life and she has told you she didn't want you to do this.
You don't have her e-mail, IM, phone number or home address. Do you get the idea she DOES NOT WANT YOU?
You would be right, I think.
You don't have her e-mail, IM, phone number or home address. Do you get the idea she DOES NOT WANT YOU?
You would be right, I think.
RE: MILLY!!!!
she worked in studio and i have seen her husband and her Id with stamp. she is 21 and her husband is 28.
RE: MILLY!!!!
he old name was Milagry..and we all know that she has husband..but she is thief girl!
RE: MILLY!!!!
Stalking? Why do you and the judge that issued the restaining order call it stalking? I prefer creative following
You can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant
You can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant
Walk right in it's around the back
Just a half a mile from the railroad track
You can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant
Walk right in it's around the back
Just a half a mile from the railroad track
You can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant
RE: You can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant
Alice's Restaurant is a song written by Arlo Guthrie back in the mid sixties. Its all about a young man going into the military and of course Alice and her restaurant. Its a great song and can usually be heard on or around Thanksgiving.
RE: You can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant
and i guess that i can say i'm pretty lucky seeing how that restaurant is local to me and have met arlo guthrie a number of times.
RE: You can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant
That is awesome paco, would love to meet him one day. I did see him a few Christmas's ago in NYC at a concert. :)
And as kahson said it is a bit of a thanksgiving tradition :)
And as kahson said it is a bit of a thanksgiving tradition :)
RE: You can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant
Alice, Alice Who the fuck is Alice ? is also a song :D
smiling
I thought that was the funnest joke I have heard--that was a good one,
bye-hugs and kiss--cool
bye-hugs and kiss--cool
RE: Lets Chat... and maybe more ;)
Her profile shows her in GHA, not so shy. But she has this written;
What you can expect from my show
Just a tease... its more fun that way
Just a tease in no so shy? Maybe she should be in shy category?
What you can expect from my show
Just a tease... its more fun that way
Just a tease in no so shy? Maybe she should be in shy category?