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My last song tonight
Happy Valantine's to all here---
So, I'm gonna bring home a dozen roses,
An' pour us a glass of wine
An' I'm gonna put on a little music,
An' turn down the lights
An' I'm gonna wrap my arms around you
An' rock you all through the night
An' I'm gonna love you
Like it's the last day of my life
-----chorus above written by Phil Vassar
Everytime our eyes meet
Its like meeting for the first time
I see it in your eyes
That this will not be the last time
I close my eyes and I see you standing there
Lets just be glad we had some time to spend together
I wish upon a wishing star, that i see your eyes
That true love is always in your eyes
-----verses written by Chaser
So, I'm gonna bring home a dozen roses,
An' pour us a glass of wine
An' I'm gonna put on a little music,
An' turn down the lights
An' I'm gonna wrap my arms around you
An' rock you all through the night
An' I'm gonna love you
Like it's the last day of my life
-----chorus above written by Phil Vassar
Everytime our eyes meet
Its like meeting for the first time
I see it in your eyes
That this will not be the last time
I close my eyes and I see you standing there
Lets just be glad we had some time to spend together
I wish upon a wishing star, that i see your eyes
That true love is always in your eyes
-----verses written by Chaser
RE: My last song tonight
I'm gonna ride with the devil, taking no short cuts, I don't care if it tales me all night, I see you in that red dress standing over there, waving your arms back and forth (or is that a finger), anyway, so don't worry hun, I will walk you home tonight, It might be a little scary and be a little spooky, but it's just for tonight.
Good Night Room,,, have fun and cheers
Good Night Room,,, have fun and cheers
I will always love you
I'm in the singing mood--here is a song I will Always Love You
If I should stay
I would only be in your eyes
So I'll go, but I know
I'll think of you every step of the way
And I will always love you
I will always love you
You, my darling you, mmmmm
Bittersweet memories
That is all I'm taking with me
So, goodbye...please, don't cry
We both know I'm not what you,, you need
I hope life treats you kind
And I hope you have all you're dreamed up
And I wish to you, joy and happiness
But above all this, I wish you love
And I will always love you
I will always love you
Ooh, yes darling,, I'll always love you
-----Whitney Houston
(actually sung better by Dolly Pardon)
cool
If I should stay
I would only be in your eyes
So I'll go, but I know
I'll think of you every step of the way
And I will always love you
I will always love you
You, my darling you, mmmmm
Bittersweet memories
That is all I'm taking with me
So, goodbye...please, don't cry
We both know I'm not what you,, you need
I hope life treats you kind
And I hope you have all you're dreamed up
And I wish to you, joy and happiness
But above all this, I wish you love
And I will always love you
I will always love you
Ooh, yes darling,, I'll always love you
-----Whitney Houston
(actually sung better by Dolly Pardon)
cool
RE: I will always love you
oh forgive me Dolly,, I spell your last name wrong--its "Parton", maybe one drink to many--cool
Dolly "Pardon" (half-funny) joke
Q: Why does Dolly Parton have such a small waist?
A: Because things don't grow well in the shade.
A: Because things don't grow well in the shade.
A very haunting yet beautiful song about an unwanted teenage pregnancy...
Flipside Ft Piper - Happy Birthday
wow... the simple rhythm and beat by the piano keys is strangely mellow and haunting at the same time. The male vocal rap somehow works and when the female vocals kick in... wow.
wow... the simple rhythm and beat by the piano keys is strangely mellow and haunting at the same time. The male vocal rap somehow works and when the female vocals kick in... wow.
RE: A very haunting yet beautiful song about an unwanted teenage pregnancy...
oops another edit :D
rapper is actually Piper from a group called Flipside and the female vocals are supposed the girls from t.at.u o_O
just read it on a forum discussing the song... original song is called Gomenasai (sorry in Japanese i believe)
rapper is actually Piper from a group called Flipside and the female vocals are supposed the girls from t.at.u o_O
just read it on a forum discussing the song... original song is called Gomenasai (sorry in Japanese i believe)
RE: A very haunting yet beautiful song about an unwanted teenage pregnancy...
A beautiful song about an unwanted pregnancy? If there ever was an oxymoron...
RE: A very haunting yet beautiful song about an unwanted teenage pregnancy...
Eww. I looked up the lyrics and it's a pro-life song! It doesn't give the impression if it's about a teen pregnancy or not though, unless the singer has said so in interviews? Teen pregnancies are only sad when they're not aborted.
RE: A very haunting yet beautiful song about an unwanted teenage pregnancy...
infanticide is boffo. all the cool chicks are doing it.
love ballad
A love ballad about his lost valentine girl
For the Good Times
Don't look so sad, I know it's over
But life goes on and this old world will keep on turning
Let's just be glad we had some time to spend together
There's no need o watch the bridges that we're burning
Lay your head upon my pillow
Hold your warm and tender body close to mine
Hear the whisper of the raindrops fallin soft against the window
And make believe you love me one more time
For the Good Times
I'll get along, you'll find another
And I'll be here if you should find you ever need me
Don't say a word about tomorrow or forever
There'll be time enough for sadness when you leave me
For the Good Times
Thanks for the Good Times
-----Kris Kristofferson
(cool)
For the Good Times
Don't look so sad, I know it's over
But life goes on and this old world will keep on turning
Let's just be glad we had some time to spend together
There's no need o watch the bridges that we're burning
Lay your head upon my pillow
Hold your warm and tender body close to mine
Hear the whisper of the raindrops fallin soft against the window
And make believe you love me one more time
For the Good Times
I'll get along, you'll find another
And I'll be here if you should find you ever need me
Don't say a word about tomorrow or forever
There'll be time enough for sadness when you leave me
For the Good Times
Thanks for the Good Times
-----Kris Kristofferson
(cool)
i don't wanna hear...
Girls whining about guys using Viagra to improve sex life when now they have a pill just because theri period seems inconvenient.
If you don't wanna bleed get your uterus ripped out.
If you don't wanna bleed get your uterus ripped out.
RE: i don't wanna hear...
There is a new pill and the ad says "take this pill and make your period last only 3 days!!" I laugh because some leftie women complain that research money was wasted on Viagra and they are pissed that some health plans pay for it.
RE: i don't wanna hear...
AHH! that makes sense now. Ive been away and havent seen that before. Viagra is wonderful for so many men and such a fantastic development. .. course cant argue with the 3 day thing either! lol thanks for explaining :) x
RE: i don't wanna hear...
I have no problem with a guy who wants to use Viagra. Personally I wouldn't want a pill to make my period last only 3 days...that seems unhealthy and unnatural to me and I don't want to mess with nature lol
RE: i don't wanna hear...
Agree, why put unnecessary chemicals into your body to alter the natural way of things? Just let it flow baby.
RE: i don't wanna hear...
Oh, but I so doubt the pill is to make the period to last that long. It's contraception, and that means stopping your ovars from working and you no longer have a period, but some bleeding. That's why it's advised to stop the pill once in a while, for your body to take a normal rythm, eliminate all the hormons and shit.
RE: i don't wanna hear...
will you settle for one period in 9 months? I know the remedy for that.
RE: i don't wanna hear...
My girlfriend only has one period a year. Unfortunately it starts on January the 1st and ends on the 31st December.
RE: i don't wanna hear...
Wise old man said , Son, Never trust a woman, if she can bleed for a week and not die ..... Thanks for the words of wisdom dad, rest in peace.... oh! mom gets out of jail next month, Dad never heard the shot fired!
RE: scammers
Even better, work together as sister & brother in the "Friends & Family" category. You will have the distinction of being the only honest representatives of that category!
RE: scammers
he sounds like he would make a good host, asking for money other people had to work to earn.
RE: scammers
oh you are one of those who does not think hosts work. i see, hmm well the doc will be here in a moment with your meds mate
Happy Saint Condom's Day
There's going to be the usual increase in hip action today - St. Condom's Day - so remember:
Safety First
Safety First
RE: Nice story of love. Just wanted to share..
abc was my January posting name so you are welcome to it. I suppose you are used to getting the cast offs in life anyway.
It's been February for 15 days now and not one negative reply from you guys.
Just goes to show that you reply to the name rather than the comments.
Happy trolling.
It's been February for 15 days now and not one negative reply from you guys.
Just goes to show that you reply to the name rather than the comments.
Happy trolling.
RE: Nice story of love. Just wanted to share..
so abc in this post is almeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????LOL!!!
Scammers, beware, sending money etc.
I'm sorry you guys feel you got "Taken" but the truth is you did it to yourself. You fell for a fantasy. If you really wanted to help someone with no string attached you couldn't be scammed, because you'd be expecting nothing in return. When you expect nothing you can't be disappointed. Truth is, there are some people here willing to take you for all you'll give and there are some good, honest, hard working hosts here too. Cut them a break and stop generalizing. Enjoy their company, they can be a ray of sunshine to brighten a day, but use your head. This is not Disneyworld, welcome to life -- embrace it or hide from it, the choice is yours.
And yes, I have sent money to hosts before, never a large amount and never expected anything in return. First time, might've well been a scam, a host daughter wanted a dress for Christmas. I kept hearing my mom's voice asking me "You're not going to let that little girl go without a Christmas dress are you?" So I sent the money, and I felt good about it. Even if it was a scam that good feeling can't be taken from me and was well worth it. That was a year ago Dec, last summer that host left CC. She still goes to the internet cafe a couple times of week to talk to me and no, I'm not sending her money for it.
And yes, I have sent money to hosts before, never a large amount and never expected anything in return. First time, might've well been a scam, a host daughter wanted a dress for Christmas. I kept hearing my mom's voice asking me "You're not going to let that little girl go without a Christmas dress are you?" So I sent the money, and I felt good about it. Even if it was a scam that good feeling can't be taken from me and was well worth it. That was a year ago Dec, last summer that host left CC. She still goes to the internet cafe a couple times of week to talk to me and no, I'm not sending her money for it.
RE: Scammers, beware, sending money etc.
exactly my feelings.not speaking for others i can't be taken,scammed etc because it was my choice to give.not only have i given most times it has been my suggestion.not only on cc,it's something i do in my life.
RE: Scammers, beware, sending money etc.
Yeah me too. I like to pay girls money to chat and so what if when we chat we sometimes talk about me paying them money. And if we aren't talking about money I'm going to send it's about money I already sent. Big deal if I go to work just so I can give my money to someone else.
a question for guys
i wonder how often men accuse women in love for money....and what about men's love for sex? :D
If ur partner is a great person, kind, clever, cute, etc....BUT frigid ( doctors cant help, everything is useless) ...would u marry her then? just curious :D
thx for honest answers in advance :)
If ur partner is a great person, kind, clever, cute, etc....BUT frigid ( doctors cant help, everything is useless) ...would u marry her then? just curious :D
thx for honest answers in advance :)
RE: a question for guys
WOW!! good question.i think yes but best give the question the thought it deserves.so i will give my final answer later,ok?
RE: a question for guys
in my heart i say yes but in reality it's not a question i can answer without doubt until i am faced with the situation.thanks now you have given me something to ponder.
RE: a question for guys
in general - yes, but still there are a lot of women who don't want sex that much as men, and they have to refuse, escape it if possible, pretend they have orgasm or just to bear with sex as a necessity to keep their family.
And there are many men who can't live without sex, they dream about passionate partner, who turns them on so easy and ready to make love at any time :D
And there are many men who can't live without sex, they dream about passionate partner, who turns them on so easy and ready to make love at any time :D
what exactly do you mean?
Do you mean that simply she can't have orgasm? Or that it hurts her pussy to have sex? Or that she is emotionally empty and won't even hug you? Does she love me? To me it depends the why and how.
RE: dear
she turns u off sexually, but all the rest is just super....in short an angel :D
i guess u will say no again :( ....oh well, life is a bitch :D
take care
i guess u will say no again :( ....oh well, life is a bitch :D
take care
RE: dear
then she becomes a dear friend and godmother to the children i have with a woman who wants me sexually AND socially
RE: a question for guys
If I didn't find a better girl after 20 years then yes I'd marry her. At least I'd have someone to make my dinner, clean my house and do my ironing :D
RE: a question for guys
yeah but affection is as important and on a cold night at least hugs and kisses are needed
RE: a question for guys
Life shows that a person who choose himself a partner for those stuff like ironing, cooking and cleaning, usually find another partner at the same time just for sex :D ...agree?
RE: a question for guys
Oh I never mentioned about the other gf for sex as I assumed that was already understood :P
RE: a question for guys
u didnt mention that, but as i said "life shows" it happens almost always. U gotta be very brave to claim u would NEVER want to be with another girl just for sex, no matter for how much - once or thousands ...no offence pls, but i dont believe u are saint :)
....or maybe u are, but er.......wtf are u doing at this porno site then? =))
....or maybe u are, but er.......wtf are u doing at this porno site then? =))
RE: a question for guys
No you misunderstand me. I meant that I never mentioned a girl for sex as I just assumed that it was already understood that I could have one and so there was no need to mention it :P
I marry the frigid girl and have a sexy hotty from cc as my girl for sex :)
I marry the frigid girl and have a sexy hotty from cc as my girl for sex :)
RE: a question for guys
and may i ask, would u tell your frigid wife u have a hotty from CC to have "some fun" together? :D ....im just being curious again.
RE: a question for guys
No I would not tell her because I am a loving, kind man and would not want to hurt her feelings :P
But now you have got me curious. Are you
1. A Host ?
2. Female ?
3. A hotty ?
Actually if the answer to number 2 is yes you've got the job as my lover :D
But now you have got me curious. Are you
1. A Host ?
2. Female ?
3. A hotty ?
Actually if the answer to number 2 is yes you've got the job as my lover :D
RE: a question for guys
"...sexy hotty from CC.." as your girl for sex? I know you're joking here, but I would hope if you were going to have a mistress, it would not be a virtual one. To settle for the ersatz---or at best surrogate---satisfaction a site like this provides, would be to add insult to injury indeed!
RE: a question for guys
Melomane sorry I should have made myself more clear. I meant a hotty from cc as my real lover for sex rather than as a 'virtual' lover.
I'm already looking for a flat for her haha.
I'm already looking for a flat for her haha.
dear "take care"
Am I stupid to think that each gut only needs one girl? I don't want to try to deceive two girls and try to keep my lies straight. If I really need two I'll just become a poligamist.
dear professor
....the question was: would u marry a frigid girl if she is your soulmate ...and this is normal to think each guy needs only one girl to be with as well as it is normal for girls to look for the only guy for the rest of life. That's why there are so many people have been looking their soulmates for years. It's not that easy, because usually a person wish him or her to be a prince or a princess :D
RE: a question for guys
No doubt this sometimes is the case, what 'shrinks' refer to as the "Princess & Prostitute Syndrome." There are many men who idealize their wives (princesses), thinking them "pure" and not given to doing "dirty" things, like sex. As a result, they are often impotent with their wives, but can always get it up with a "dirty" whore. It's clearly the guy's hangup, not his wife's. Such men have a pathological hangup that equates sexual intimacy with something dirty and wrong. So, the wife cleans his clothes and the ho cleans his pipe. But his wife's sexual frustration will likewise seek a remedy. So, while he is at work, she will be serviced by Mr. Clean.
RE: a question for guys
Yes It can also happen when the hot sexy wife who he had no problem having sex with becomes a mother and then the Princess part kicks in.
RE: a question for guys
<<If ur partner is a great person, kind, clever, cute, etc....BUT frigid ( doctors cant help, everything is useless) ...would u marry her then?>>
No, because that person is not a lover, but a friend.
No, because that person is not a lover, but a friend.
RE: a question for guys
by the word "partner" i meant someone with whom u have a close relation. (or just try to have it) anyway, even if u have such a great person only as your friend and if u both are free, sooner or later u will look for or dream about love with her, am i right? ....or do u think u won't, because she will tell u about her "little problem" before u go to bed? :D
RE: a question for guys
Let me conclude.
I didnt notice many guys who would marry a frigid girl without intention to be honest with her and love only her in spite of any sex problems.
I didn't notice many girls as well, who would marry a poor guy who cant earn enough for their future family.
IMO it all is normal for a person who is pretty young, because in the old age u neither need much money nor sex, but u are desperate for the soulmate who would love u (u, an old fart :D) ...and u would care about each other coz he or she is your only treasure then, u dont need anything else in your life.
I didnt notice many guys who would marry a frigid girl without intention to be honest with her and love only her in spite of any sex problems.
I didn't notice many girls as well, who would marry a poor guy who cant earn enough for their future family.
IMO it all is normal for a person who is pretty young, because in the old age u neither need much money nor sex, but u are desperate for the soulmate who would love u (u, an old fart :D) ...and u would care about each other coz he or she is your only treasure then, u dont need anything else in your life.
RE: a question for guys
Yeah, a "frigid girl" should find a guy with a (relatively) low sex drive.
We are not medical professionals here so I wonder what people mean by "frigid."
Is it:
the girl is sick at the thought of spreading her legs for a guy?
the girl is sick at the thought of a naked penis?
it hurts to have sex?
she is a lesbian?
she hates you, but loves your money?
she simply is not so interested?
Here is an interesting link: http://www.savethemales.ca/000441.html
It seems if she loves you she will occasionally accomodate sex, even if it is not thrilling for her.
We are not medical professionals here so I wonder what people mean by "frigid."
Is it:
the girl is sick at the thought of spreading her legs for a guy?
the girl is sick at the thought of a naked penis?
it hurts to have sex?
she is a lesbian?
she hates you, but loves your money?
she simply is not so interested?
Here is an interesting link: http://www.savethemales.ca/000441.html
It seems if she loves you she will occasionally accomodate sex, even if it is not thrilling for her.
RE: a question for guys
TC, I realize you are posing a hypothetical question, but I would think two such people would have come to terms with this problem long before the question of marriage was even on the radar screen.
RE: Melomane
Of course, my thoughts too, but I was attempting to describe what might more likely be the case in reality. One can pose any hypothetical situation, but it hardly means that every hypothetical admits of the same degree of liklihood.
not read most but pls READ
hi! i didnt read the whole post but i tell you this:
not 100% sure but if your perfect! and your the most adorable person but frigid in a sexual way that turns your partner off then... Most people will still marry you, probably even have a happy relationship. But! if a person is very sexually active and loves sex, he/she might cheat! - because sex is also like a drug if u love it u need it....
Many married people have good relationships but 1 ends up cheating, in statistics most cases of cheating is because 1 partner is not as sexually active as the other, or 1 is not adventurous in sex as the other... also many other examples and reasons :)...
Hope this helps
not 100% sure but if your perfect! and your the most adorable person but frigid in a sexual way that turns your partner off then... Most people will still marry you, probably even have a happy relationship. But! if a person is very sexually active and loves sex, he/she might cheat! - because sex is also like a drug if u love it u need it....
Many married people have good relationships but 1 ends up cheating, in statistics most cases of cheating is because 1 partner is not as sexually active as the other, or 1 is not adventurous in sex as the other... also many other examples and reasons :)...
Hope this helps
The Underlying Question
take care,
Thinking a bit more about your interesting question, several things occur to me. First off, I agree it is a widely held belief regarding the politics of sexual relationships---especially marriage---that women are more concerned about money and men about sex. However, it is easy to see how this view developed given the historical realities of relations between the sexes. Up until relatively recently, a woman was regarded as a man’s property, mere chattel, an asset like cattle (from which, btw, the word “chattel” derives.) The idea of a woman having political rights is a very recent development (and still the exception in most non-Western societies), corresponding to the novel romantic notion of a man and a woman marrying for love, i.e. against the practice of arranged marriages and/or the patriarch of a tribe promising his daughter to a member of another tribe, with the understanding that a “bride price” will be paid to the girl’s family. That price is negotiated between the fathers of the prospective couple. The men will quibble over whether the girl is worth two cows or three, for example.
Even as women acquired more political power, they were still largely economically dependent on men. American women got a taste of economic independence during WWII when they worked in the factories (“Rosie the Riveter” is a well known figure to the WWII generation) while their husbands were off to war. But after the war, women again largely assumed the “stay-at-home” mom role. (Indeed the Nazi’s were intent on discouraging women from seeking more political & economic independence with their propaganda campaign of “Kirche, Kuche, Kinde,” [“Church, Kitchen, Children”]). Only in the 60’s did things begin to change as regards women entering the work force in large numbers.
So, it’s understandable why women have placed a high premium on men having money, since little economic opportunities were open to them. (My grandmother left my grandfather in 1929 and went to work in a sewing factory for $12 a week—10 hr days/M-F. It was no picnic!) Thus women’s focus was/is on money and men’s focus, or so the perception goes, was/is on sex. No doubt there is the vestige of belief among men that if they are paying a woman’s way, they are entitled to repayment in the form of sexual gratification.
But it’s not that simple, because this political/economic explanation doesn’t take the biological element into account, even if---as some believe---the economic and political developments are ultimately rooted in the biological differences (of size, strength, mentality) between the sexes. The fact that the males are the pursuers and the females the pursued no doubt contributes to the perception that men are more interested in sex. Among the mammals it is undeniable that the males compete over who will win (or less delicately “mount”) the females in heat. We human beings may be “a little lower than the angels,” (Proverbs), but we have an animal nature as well. Perhaps that’s why most women complain that “All men are beasts,” even if they wouldn’t have it any other way!! Thus the humorous, but hardly complimentary remark I heard made by a woman who said, “Men think with their dicks!”
In sum, these roles and stereotypes are deeply rooted in our evolution as a species. Our consciousness is formed by these developments, hence our perceptions. To what extent all of these things bear on pathologies such as frigidity or impotence seen in individuals is a complicated matter and admittedly is somewhat tangential—but not altogether unrelated---to your question of whether a man would marry a frigid woman. It is not unrelated insofar as your question is premised on the assumption that men are primarily interested in sex and therefore would not marry a frigid woman who is ideal in every other regard. Of course the complimentary and equally prejudiced question is to ask a woman if she would marry a man with no money. The unfortunate result of both these questions is that they fail to question the forces that give rise to them. The questions themselves are a function of the underlying dynamic that goes unexamined. The forces are real, true, but there are more fundamental forces at work. Looking at the question of economic security and sexual desire without the prejudicial overlay simplifies somewhat the whole “Love or Money” question.
The matter of economic security is the easiest to answer because there is no ambiguity. We all need to survive. Who, after all, isn’t motivated in a primary way by this need? If mankind was, by some unforeseen calamity, suddenly reduced to his original primitive state and all the economic inequities were stripped away and rendered irrelevant, would not men and women cooperate in an effort to insure their survival? Would each not do what would most likely guarantee their survival and that of their offspring? Would the women not stay put, care for the children, plant a garden and create some sense of home and hearth? (Surely we don’t think she would apply for a job as an “Employee Benefits Coordinator!”) And would the men not go out to hunt and gather to insure that his wife and children would be provided for? And would he not do everything in his power to repel any aggressor that would threaten his person or property? Different roles? Yes, but roles largely determined by biology. These roles Marx described as the “first division of labor.” Roles that have evolved into undeniable inequities were originally a matter of biological necessity. Bottom line: men and women both desire economic security. However, it is an ironic mark of latter day civilization that men and women alike often show a pathological desire for money independent of any concern for their economic security!
The matter of love of sex is a bit more complicated and subject to greater debate. However, it seems clear that the stereotype of men being more interested in it distorts the truth as much as the stereotype of women liking money more. Adding to this prejudice is the aforementioned assumption that men are sexual beasts and women the innocent objects of sexual desire who have no such desire themselves. (This idealization of women is not unrelated to the humorous quip that women don’t fart! I recall—imperfectly---a line from Dylan Thomas, something like, “O Celia, O Celia/ She shits.”) However, when men and women get to know each other this myth is shattered, for men often discover that their woman has a more voracious sexual appetite than their own. Some might even say women like sex more than men. This claim is the subject of an interesting story from Greek Mythology.
The story concerns an argument between Zeus and his wife Hera concerning who enjoys sex more, men or women. Zeus claimed women enjoyed it more and Hera claimed men did. To settle the dispute they summoned Teiresias, (who was born a man, changed into a woman, and back into a man) since only he experienced both. Upon his arrival at Mt. Olympus, he told the feuding couple that women enjoy sex more by saying, “If the parts of love-pleasure be counted as ten, / Thrice three go to women, one only to men.” Hera was outraged and blinded Teiresias, who then was granted inward vision and became a well-known seer.
Whether women enjoy sex more than men, who can say. I suspect some women do, others not. My gut feeling and experience tell me it’s largely a matter of individual passion, not a question of which sex likes sex more.
Thinking a bit more about your interesting question, several things occur to me. First off, I agree it is a widely held belief regarding the politics of sexual relationships---especially marriage---that women are more concerned about money and men about sex. However, it is easy to see how this view developed given the historical realities of relations between the sexes. Up until relatively recently, a woman was regarded as a man’s property, mere chattel, an asset like cattle (from which, btw, the word “chattel” derives.) The idea of a woman having political rights is a very recent development (and still the exception in most non-Western societies), corresponding to the novel romantic notion of a man and a woman marrying for love, i.e. against the practice of arranged marriages and/or the patriarch of a tribe promising his daughter to a member of another tribe, with the understanding that a “bride price” will be paid to the girl’s family. That price is negotiated between the fathers of the prospective couple. The men will quibble over whether the girl is worth two cows or three, for example.
Even as women acquired more political power, they were still largely economically dependent on men. American women got a taste of economic independence during WWII when they worked in the factories (“Rosie the Riveter” is a well known figure to the WWII generation) while their husbands were off to war. But after the war, women again largely assumed the “stay-at-home” mom role. (Indeed the Nazi’s were intent on discouraging women from seeking more political & economic independence with their propaganda campaign of “Kirche, Kuche, Kinde,” [“Church, Kitchen, Children”]). Only in the 60’s did things begin to change as regards women entering the work force in large numbers.
So, it’s understandable why women have placed a high premium on men having money, since little economic opportunities were open to them. (My grandmother left my grandfather in 1929 and went to work in a sewing factory for $12 a week—10 hr days/M-F. It was no picnic!) Thus women’s focus was/is on money and men’s focus, or so the perception goes, was/is on sex. No doubt there is the vestige of belief among men that if they are paying a woman’s way, they are entitled to repayment in the form of sexual gratification.
But it’s not that simple, because this political/economic explanation doesn’t take the biological element into account, even if---as some believe---the economic and political developments are ultimately rooted in the biological differences (of size, strength, mentality) between the sexes. The fact that the males are the pursuers and the females the pursued no doubt contributes to the perception that men are more interested in sex. Among the mammals it is undeniable that the males compete over who will win (or less delicately “mount”) the females in heat. We human beings may be “a little lower than the angels,” (Proverbs), but we have an animal nature as well. Perhaps that’s why most women complain that “All men are beasts,” even if they wouldn’t have it any other way!! Thus the humorous, but hardly complimentary remark I heard made by a woman who said, “Men think with their dicks!”
In sum, these roles and stereotypes are deeply rooted in our evolution as a species. Our consciousness is formed by these developments, hence our perceptions. To what extent all of these things bear on pathologies such as frigidity or impotence seen in individuals is a complicated matter and admittedly is somewhat tangential—but not altogether unrelated---to your question of whether a man would marry a frigid woman. It is not unrelated insofar as your question is premised on the assumption that men are primarily interested in sex and therefore would not marry a frigid woman who is ideal in every other regard. Of course the complimentary and equally prejudiced question is to ask a woman if she would marry a man with no money. The unfortunate result of both these questions is that they fail to question the forces that give rise to them. The questions themselves are a function of the underlying dynamic that goes unexamined. The forces are real, true, but there are more fundamental forces at work. Looking at the question of economic security and sexual desire without the prejudicial overlay simplifies somewhat the whole “Love or Money” question.
The matter of economic security is the easiest to answer because there is no ambiguity. We all need to survive. Who, after all, isn’t motivated in a primary way by this need? If mankind was, by some unforeseen calamity, suddenly reduced to his original primitive state and all the economic inequities were stripped away and rendered irrelevant, would not men and women cooperate in an effort to insure their survival? Would each not do what would most likely guarantee their survival and that of their offspring? Would the women not stay put, care for the children, plant a garden and create some sense of home and hearth? (Surely we don’t think she would apply for a job as an “Employee Benefits Coordinator!”) And would the men not go out to hunt and gather to insure that his wife and children would be provided for? And would he not do everything in his power to repel any aggressor that would threaten his person or property? Different roles? Yes, but roles largely determined by biology. These roles Marx described as the “first division of labor.” Roles that have evolved into undeniable inequities were originally a matter of biological necessity. Bottom line: men and women both desire economic security. However, it is an ironic mark of latter day civilization that men and women alike often show a pathological desire for money independent of any concern for their economic security!
The matter of love of sex is a bit more complicated and subject to greater debate. However, it seems clear that the stereotype of men being more interested in it distorts the truth as much as the stereotype of women liking money more. Adding to this prejudice is the aforementioned assumption that men are sexual beasts and women the innocent objects of sexual desire who have no such desire themselves. (This idealization of women is not unrelated to the humorous quip that women don’t fart! I recall—imperfectly---a line from Dylan Thomas, something like, “O Celia, O Celia/ She shits.”) However, when men and women get to know each other this myth is shattered, for men often discover that their woman has a more voracious sexual appetite than their own. Some might even say women like sex more than men. This claim is the subject of an interesting story from Greek Mythology.
The story concerns an argument between Zeus and his wife Hera concerning who enjoys sex more, men or women. Zeus claimed women enjoyed it more and Hera claimed men did. To settle the dispute they summoned Teiresias, (who was born a man, changed into a woman, and back into a man) since only he experienced both. Upon his arrival at Mt. Olympus, he told the feuding couple that women enjoy sex more by saying, “If the parts of love-pleasure be counted as ten, / Thrice three go to women, one only to men.” Hera was outraged and blinded Teiresias, who then was granted inward vision and became a well-known seer.
Whether women enjoy sex more than men, who can say. I suspect some women do, others not. My gut feeling and experience tell me it’s largely a matter of individual passion, not a question of which sex likes sex more.
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Good: I met the girl i love here.
Bad: I have to find a way my heart does not break in a million pieces when other guys see her... I have to survive just until i can offer her the means so she has not to work here (or anywhere else) anymore...
Bad: I have to find a way my heart does not break in a million pieces when other guys see her... I have to survive just until i can offer her the means so she has not to work here (or anywhere else) anymore...
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Good, I met a girl I lust after here and we jack-off together
Bad; she has some guy that thinks he is her bf and gets bent out of shape when we get naked together
Bad; she has some guy that thinks he is her bf and gets bent out of shape when we get naked together
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Not very well at all. It is down to love and trust. At times it is really really hard to do.
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it is interesting to communicate with you peopleand the mindless chats and the pictures of beautiful bodies.
dislike..endless floodings and hosts that do not understand
what '' No '' means.
dislike..endless floodings and hosts that do not understand
what '' No '' means.
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Good I get to see beautiful women showing me their sext little bottoms.
Bad it costs money :(
Bad it costs money :(
Russia Women - Russia Man. If U Outside Russia Dont Fall In Love With A Russia Women
Have you ever fall in love with Russia women ,,,,? . Well i have and thats been wery complicated. Always its subject nr 1. Money. So what do this Russia women tell about Russia men to us. They say that Russia men give them alot of money , using alot on them and they take what they want , How much they say they use on them = 10-20.000 dollars . Offcourse this is just bullshit. The Russia women work , the russia man use. The russia man ( Not All ) but the most of them are not so good B/F
Learn one thing . Never send money to Russia women , the only one that loose , and loose you heart is you. It seems i never learn. But its not the easy part to controll you heart. So all the Yaroslavl Girls that now Ira . Tell her well done for breaking my heart forever
Learn one thing . Never send money to Russia women , the only one that loose , and loose you heart is you. It seems i never learn. But its not the easy part to controll you heart. So all the Yaroslavl Girls that now Ira . Tell her well done for breaking my heart forever
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Listen,why do u think,u have a right to say about ALL russians?Men and women? If one girl has offended u,it doesnt mean all of russian girls like her. And u cant,really,say about russian men coz as i understand u r not a russian. If u lived in Russia u would have a right to say about russian character and people,not in other way. And u would like to say other girls not russians want only true love?lol Really it would be very funny if it were true lol And also,believe in love and it will find u.
RE: Russia Women - Russia Man. If U Outside Russia Dont Fall In Love With A Russia Women
you silly western tool. we have trained out women to suck not only the schlongs but the wallets of western stupid man. soon all your euros and dollars will be in Mother Russia !!!!HEEEEEEEHHHEEEEEE!!!
RE: Russia Women - Russia Man. If U Outside Russia Dont Fall In Love With A Russia Women
mmm, another story of a sucker....I mean member sending moeny to someone far far away and then getting what he deserves...nothing in return. Say good-bye to your money and your diginity.
RE: Russia Women - Russia Man. If U Outside Russia Dont Fall In Love With A Russia Women
its not the sending of money or gifts that looses you your dignity.it is the reason for doing it that can cause it,in my opinion. it. i'm happy & proud i have done it :--))
RE: Russia Women - Russia Man. If U Outside Russia Dont Fall In Love With A Russia Women
spoken like a true sucker waiting for his money to be taken from him...gladly giving it away
RE: Russia Women - Russia Man. If U Outside Russia Dont Fall In Love With A Russia Women
that is your problem.you don't understand.i can't be taken if i am giving. no strings,no expectations just the satisfaction i have in my heart.oh by the way it is not only here,it is in life.
RE: Russia Women - Russia Man. If U Outside Russia Dont Fall In Love With A Russia Women
ur very modest.
RE: Russia Women - Russia Man. If U Outside Russia Dont Fall In Love With A Russia Women
sorry,wasn't saying it to be"modest"as you put it.stated it so was understood its not just a"host thing",more a people thing :--))
RE: Russia Women - Russia Man. If U Outside Russia Dont Fall In Love With A Russia Women
This would happen just as easily in the America's, Europe or anywhere.
Certainly more easily where you live and see the person every day!
Makes no difference if it is a man or woman.
Probably she did nothing wrong.
It was your unrealistic expectations!
My Mother met my Father when she was visitying his country.
So anything is possible.
But it is hard to have a love relationship and not being able to be
there for each other.
Certainly more easily where you live and see the person every day!
Makes no difference if it is a man or woman.
Probably she did nothing wrong.
It was your unrealistic expectations!
My Mother met my Father when she was visitying his country.
So anything is possible.
But it is hard to have a love relationship and not being able to be
there for each other.
RE: Russia Women - Russia Man. If U Outside Russia Dont Fall In Love With A Russia Women
ok, I will give him that right. Go ahead and blame the whole country.
RE: Russia Women - Russia Man. If U Outside Russia Dont Fall In Love With A Russia Women
...happy birthday xSunnyGirlX:D
RE: Russia Women - Russia Man. If U Outside Russia Dont Fall In Love With A Russia Women
absolutely agree with u:)
RE: Russia Women - Russia Man. If U Outside Russia Dont Fall In Love With A Russia Women
I have not sent money, although I have received strong hints, but I have sent gifts, willingly and will do so again. I expect nothing in return, they are given with the heart.
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I was in love with a russian woman..
we also met, spent time together , in russia and also in Uk.. i even bought another flight ticket, but when she could not make it, because of family problems , she returned the money , even on a non refund ticket.. That is a russian woman , with pride and honesty, we met again a few months later. I have known a few russian ladies , and always had the best examples of honesty and they have been the kindest of hosts when I visited ,,met family and friends too, beautiful country and lovely people..
I have a better opinion now than before i met and visited .. SO please dont say ALL russians ..OK ..happy Valentines ..
we also met, spent time together , in russia and also in Uk.. i even bought another flight ticket, but when she could not make it, because of family problems , she returned the money , even on a non refund ticket.. That is a russian woman , with pride and honesty, we met again a few months later. I have known a few russian ladies , and always had the best examples of honesty and they have been the kindest of hosts when I visited ,,met family and friends too, beautiful country and lovely people..
I have a better opinion now than before i met and visited .. SO please dont say ALL russians ..OK ..happy Valentines ..
RE: Russia Women - Russia Man. If U Outside Russia Dont Fall In Love With A Russia Women
If you met her through a marriage broker then it's possible she was looking at you as a meal ticket and you may have over-blown your worth to impress her. A hint is if she asks for money before you are married. She survived before she met you and she can survive without your money until she commits to you. And in that time you can get to know her character.
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I am not Russian..my husband spent a lot of money on them though..and I was happy to mention to him that they didn´t remember his birthday, at least.LOL
One day, a new handsome French guy came to me and he paid and he paid..and we talked..and we liked each other.I was able to see when he is online and I found out that my polite French is not addicted, which made me very happy.
I offered him to see me for free and he invited me for dinner in real, for Valentine´s Day, even we have met one month ago..my heart is flying and I should thank my husband for sharing the experience with Russians to me..it helps me to behave to win the heart of the man I want to be with
One day, a new handsome French guy came to me and he paid and he paid..and we talked..and we liked each other.I was able to see when he is online and I found out that my polite French is not addicted, which made me very happy.
I offered him to see me for free and he invited me for dinner in real, for Valentine´s Day, even we have met one month ago..my heart is flying and I should thank my husband for sharing the experience with Russians to me..it helps me to behave to win the heart of the man I want to be with
RE: Russia Women - Russia Man. If U Outside Russia Dont Fall In Love With A Russia Women
So you are married, still hosting, your husband still pays for vids and you meet guys in person that you met in your room ?
Wow, and who says CC marriages won't last?
Wow, and who says CC marriages won't last?
RE: Russia Women - Russia Man. If U Outside Russia Dont Fall In Love With A Russia Women
lol......and old frenchie knew that she was married, yet invited her for a valentine's dinner too? yeah, he sounds much better:p
RE: Russia Women - Russia Man. If U Outside Russia Dont Fall In Love With A Russia Women
so strange:) how could i live here in my country for 23 years?:) Russia is full of greedy and hypocritical women and poor, week men.:) My dear ''that who knows'' , maybe you live on Mars and you havent met such people in your country or other?Then cool-i am proud of my country coz it is unique -only we have bad people.So I advice our Putin to set Russia as a museum:) Open the map of our world and look how big it is.billions of people..chose one and love her.And stop thinking of Russia.It is not for tunnel visioned viewers who judge the whole nation knowing only one person
RE: Russia Women - Russia Man. If U Outside Russia Dont Fall In Love With A Russia Women
well spoken NOCHKA!!