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the chopper takes less of ur money :p

you taken to calling women choppers now shyster? :--))

Women are much higher maintenance? :P

hmmm--thinking hard, is this a trick question

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cum4mewithme-where are you from,, you didnt understand the question, just think, your answer is wrong, its nothing like comparing the two, its not a thing

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you should never need to apologize to any one for your english.... better to ask them to write it in your native language and see how they do!!! :)))

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try to figure bikers out :)) they can be a bit crazy... my housemates got a 70 harley... but nutty but good guy all the same :P

a 1970 harley?
now that is high maintenance

shampoo you can wash off,men you have to kill :--))

uh..you wear protection on two completely different "heads"

i don't even want to consider having gas with one of them!

easy for me! one i can ride(though probably never will),the other is illegal for me to ride.... :--))

Unlike the motorcycle, the woman is more interesting once you laid it down. And in the case of the woman that procedure usually doesn't produce road rash.

never got a rug burn off of my Harley, can't say that about women

didn't know that Harley made that small of bike

buba... i love your song to me :)) You did me right????

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i didnt know that--can you explain that any deeper, what is it

Your bringing sexyback Austin! :p

why they ignore you tonight??? not nice to ignore such a great girl!!!!
i think a lot of us are slow tonight though :((

Lower your price and you will make lots of new friends.

cheap ass :P

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I was saying WWW is a cheap ass for telling you to lower your price :P

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hello tinyLia

cheap ass, go tell her hi in 1-2-1

Whats your price?

And are your nicer than Candybody?

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Don't have all the words but my songs to my chat host friends
WHISKEY LULLABY.. Brad Paisley

ANYTHING BUT MINE kenny Chesney

FAT BOTTOMED GIRLS Queen

im not your baby, but anyway Happy Birthday, Angelo! :)

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i woulda got u a gift..but well..i cant b bothered

is he a dead beat dad?

love your oral Annie :)

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Happy Birthday American Idiot :-)

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you didn't have to say it twice

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check ur calender its not april1 already

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shag off !

A lot of hosts ask you if you want adult, so that we go into 121 and pay more. So quit the crap talk.

I think it is wrong of you to blame all members and lay non of the blame on the hosts.

I suppose it is a little bit like the question Which came first the chicken or the egg ?

Hosts will blame members for asking for nudity in the non adult categories and members will say they only ask because hosts go nude in the non adult categories.

From a member's point of view I have never gone to the non adult categories and requested nudity. I have, however, been in community chat where I have declined an invitation from a non adult host to visit her video as I am looking for an adult show only to be informed that an adult show is available in 1-2-1.

ohhh really? hosts strips in nonadult - and this is not thier fault?
member`s?
lol so it seems like poor wretch girl strips in 121 only after long member`s orders?
noone no force someone to strip here.
if you are real nonadult hosts then dont strip
if you strip - go to adult

if hosts will stop strip in nonadult - members will stop ask about it.
"Demand gives birth supply"

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PPS maybe im silly but is this not the same? "Demand gives birth supply"

blaim one or the other... host or member... both are to blaim!
non-adult should only be non-adult. of course foolish memebers go there asking for stip or other adult things... and they need to stop this for sure!
hosts... they will say they will do this in 1-2-1 to lure a member into vid... and these hosts should stop this or move to little shy!
NOT all non-adult hosts do this for sure, but there are some who do... and they should very simply move to little shy.
end of story :P

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I was not complaining I was just saying that SOME hosts and members do this. For me… I go to non-adult to chat… nothing more and nothing less.
I agree with you about those who complain I do not understand it either and have said that in many replies. The only thing I think is they feel if they can get a non-adult girl to strip… they are manly men… they conquered the girl… made her strip in non-adult! In my opinion they are only idiots :P
Then you have the ones who complain because a non-adult host would NOT strip! They are even dumber then the first ones in my opinion.
About hosts pushing for 1-2-1, well you forget they do have that cute little uzi icon …. Maybe the members get afraid of it :P

oh come on. we all know that 90% of the girls in non adult strip willingly in 121. they aren't forced and most will offer it. until these girls are moved to little shy by CC the problem will never go away.

here is none complain... maybe only you coz you do not understand why some members want to make things as they should be: nonadult is nonadult, adult is adult
you think one2one in nonadult for strip?
"It's our latest service and gives you the option to have an exclusive and private session with your favorite Chathost. So you will have her (or his) full attention for every second of your chat. No interruptions - no bother - no one else!" Look it doesnt mean that this option for any sexy actions.
You think girls strip in nonadult coz members ask them about it?
In my opinion maybe they just dont know how to tempt viewers into video and hold them there only with interesting talk? if so and such hosts can only strip maybe better to do it in adult section?

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of course that is what their dumb male brain tells them... that they were able to get a non-adult to strip... they must be a real man to do that :P

more fun trying to get an instant action to chat not strip :--))

lol tisme

nice to have you back :P

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I agree, but the question of what is "right" is secondary to the psychology that is at work here. A rule has been established that forbids a certain thing. Thus the forbidden fruit becomes the most desirable. The story is as old as mankind and has less to do with economics (which some here think is central) than it does psychology. Supply/Demand, or the correlative (Demand giving birth to suppy) no doubt play a part, but the most salient feature is psychological: Like Adam & Eve, we want what we cannot have.

stop making it up. please put a bag over your face to make us horny

SexySiren is hot... no need for a bag fool :))

Beat me some more!!!

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the fools might not feel as much of a man... because they did not conquer anything :))

dah dah da dah!!
I conquered paying someone to chat with me!! I am da man!

Lol Fool! You IS da man. Lear's fool has nothing on you. I think you should be awarded a medal for carrying on the tradition of Court Jester.

Precisely!

errr

Marilou i hope your post doesnt mean you have been attacked by a man in such a way :(

I haven't been raped by a man but i am a man so that rarely happens but an ex of mine was raped by a man years ago and it wasn't nice.

the night she was attacked i spent several hours talking to her on the phone trying to comfort her and make sure she was alright (it was a kind of long distance thing so i couldn't physically be with her)

it's kind of why i've lost faith in humanity and have come to dislike a lot of men. I'm not sure what i can say to help you feel any better but if you need to talk then please feel free to message me

You have been raped?

First my heart goes out to you.

Your post is a very good reminder to us all that the way people behave on this site is by no means an indication of how they will behave in real life.

I would always meet someone from here in a crowded place preferably with some of your friends. However it is only natural for you to want to be alone with someone you have formed a friendly relationship with and who you may see as a future partner.

Take care.

When you said you dealt with it you were not referring to yourself! I am very sorry though if it was you or a friend… either way.
Rape is a horrible crime…. One that needs to be punished much harsher in my opinion!
I have always favored the punishment of shoving a glass tube up the rapists dick and then breaking the tube inside…. Guaranteed never to get a hard on again…. Of course he should also be locked away with Buba for the rest of his life also :-D

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sorry to hear that :( you dont have anything to be ashamed of, nor does Marilou... or any other for that matter! Take good care of yourselves... all of you! and like the Judge said... kick them in the balls... over, over and over again!

I bet "date rape" (committed by someone you already know) is more common than most people think.
Easy solution, kick him in the nuts and gouge out an eye, no jury in the world would convict you.

dont be marilou,because there bad man everywhere and u have good man too not everyone will be bad thing,many are very good but there always bad fruit and dont judge everyone for 1 bad personne and u will find someone very nice i'm sure

Dear Marilou and ashamed,
one of the problem is that the victim allways feels guilty and ashamed afterwards, allthought there is no reason to be!
If u can find a therapist who can give u traumatherapy!

did you file charges against him or post his photo on the net stating he raped you. did you ''take care of him'' so he will not do the same to another?
or did you just need to vend about a lame lay?
oh but my answer is.. no i have not been raped by a friend.
friends wouldnt do such a thing ! if you think of this preditor as a friend, then you need more help then this forum.
if you had asked..''have you even been raped'' the response would would be different.
lastly that would be too personal to respond to.

There is nothing you should do to "bahave" in a way to avoid this. It's nothing you did. He is the one who is guilty, not you. You have no responsibility in something so wrong that someone else did. I am truly sorry this happened to you.

over already :) just one sunday.... not like the World Cup at all :))

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What the hell is a super BOW?

i know you are a jack ass for making fun of anothers writing!
and if you had half a brain you would know she meant Bowl
damm fools in this place make me sick sometimes

If that made you sick, try this on for size poindexter...
How was I to know the original poster was a female? there are malehost and what in her/his/it's post indicated english is their 2nd
language?
And lastly, what does it feel like to be sooo superior over others brainiac?

Well Howard…
It feels pretty damm good to be so superior over you, thanks for asking! :P
The ratio of male host to female hosts is a huge difference here… and especially the ones who seem to be posting in the forum.
Forget about it being a 1st or 2nd language… why make fun of someone’s language skills in the first place? Chances are good that it is a 2nd language since the larger majority are from outside of English speaking countries.
I think we should have a Russian day, a Romanian day, a Spanish day and so on… all post should be in that language… and we will see how much the single language English speaking folk like it. How does that sound Howard?

Sounds dandy flapjack. You go ahead and work out the details with Cc and I'll support it all the way.
As for the other stuff you said, I guess I was wrong for not assuming. Next time I will assume all posts from a "host" are female and Russian or Romania.

What the hell is a malehost ?

"What the hell is a malehost ?"

and why are they needed again?

skills at work :)) He loves to bash others, yet.... malehost sounds a lot like superbow.... guess he needs to go back to school also :P

Bash others? Wow, I ask "what the hell is a superbow" and you guys/gals get all bent out of shape. Is it that time of the month for you guys?

maybe use your brain the next time and you would not need to ask such a stupid question... right?

A gay guy pretending to be straight...lol

some guys might be hung over for a week after that :P

Some guys might have bet on the Bears and are running a little short of cash for the next week or two!

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they are lovely ears :P

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oh damm i am not afraid of lovely witches :P

no credit cards

PrettyWitch! *wave* :) hi!

i hate fast spiders... doesn't matter if they are big and slow though... if they're fast then i poo myself when they run across at me o_O

As for your neck phobia... i think maybe it's the fear that maybe you will get strangled lol... prob best way is to let someone touch it (not with hands) just kiss it and see if you have the same fear???

caressing your neck??? oh you poor dear, i hope someone one day will get you past this phobia.... does it apply to kissing your neck also or just caressing it??

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that is to bad ... because you do have a lovely neck :P but good to know you like to be kissed there :)))

going out in public, crouds, and meeting ppl make my chest hurt.
even with family members and friends.
i am happy being alone.
and yes even comming to chat if uncomfortable, until i get here. then, well you see, i am fine. mostly.

not your normal crowds like at a disco.... but the crowds you find in a store on a holiday.... were you are packed in like sardines... not being able to really move.... not sure if it is a phobia of mine... but i sure do hate it :P

Yes I also dislike crowds like that. I think that is a very common phobia.

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I will touch your neck soon bb

mice and birds? so a flying rat (bat) must scare the panties off ya

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mirrors & family portraits(breaking out in a cold sweat at the mere thought of it)

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too.... makes it nice and cheery for sure :)))

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we want a party!!!!!!!!! woooooo hooooooo \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/

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The party is in my pants and all the sexy ladies are invited (no fat chicks please)

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beat me Gorty. I certainly don't

because they think men want to see bony women.
healthy and slim is one thing but the fation models are sickly looking.

hey Gorty :)

strangely enough one of my recent essays touched upon the model industry and anorexia o_O

I like slim girls, but I also love when they have that little bit of “baby” fat… at least that is the best term I have come up with for it. :) if you want bones… well I can give you direction to a local bone yard. :P

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you dont want to be that skinny!!! you should be happy the way you are, with who you are! i know a few people with the same problems and it can be very hard! i hope you will look in the mirror, see the real beautiful you and be proud of who you are!

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what is a stone? :)

A stone = 14lbs

2.2lbs = 1 kilo

cool thanks :) is this like modern weight or are we talking about something from ages ago? and i do ask that serious...because i never heard if before... thanks for the info

slim girls are models, hmm, over here in Haiti, these women can make a killing in american modeling

but they dont have much of a choice their Austin... hope you are still enjoying your time... miss those lovely beaches and blue blue water :)) have a rum for me :))

Don't worry it will never happen to you chunky monkey. Or are you trying to get my hopes up?

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Does she charges for shows? I hope she doesn't....

haha i dont charge too:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

i think you should charge at least $5 per minute... you are very cute :))

don't be silly

she is lovely... she is sweet and a pleasure to talk with :) why not $5?? if she works at home... that is $2.50 and if she works in a studio well then it is only $1.25... so yes I say $5 for sure :D

Well.... she is very attractive and very yummy. I love her pics, but pls dont give her ideas!!!

Hmm..

I think about it..

I ursaly talk to candybody, becus she so wounderful girl..

But i geuss i can test her to..

Smb knows her? Who is SMB? Sir Milton Bradley?

Ok, if you do not know this nickname..
Smb-->> used to be a chthost and a viewer now .. well.. another name is FLPS
Yes, he knows everything.. ;)

Glad you asked. I thought it was chatspeak for "somebody." lol!
Btw, I know LMAO is "laughing my ass off," but the RO that some put before it is---"rolling over"?

rolling on floor lauging :)

melomane: "Granted, men of the cloth are mere mortals like us and have no more access to the spiritual or eternal than the rest of us. But with the“conduit” gone, how do we connect with the eternal or transcendent world?"

"When you pray , be not like the pretenders, who prefer to pray in the synagogues and in the public squares, in the sight of others. In truth I tell you, that is all the profit they will have. But you, when you pray, go into your inner chamber qand, locking the door, pray there in hiding to your Father, and your Father who sees you in hiding will reward you. And when you pray do not babble on as the pagans do, who think that to win a hearingby the number of their words. Your father knows what you need before you ask it of him." (Mt. 6.5-8)

"yes you...", that passage from Matthew goes right to the heart of the matter. It also clarifies your position on religion. I assume it would be fair for me to conclude that you do not repudiate religion or the religious impulse as such, but think we don't need an institution or a cleric to mediate it? And would I be going too far in concluding you believe that not only is the institution unnecessary, but it actually may stand in the way of the aim?

Dante certainly thought the true spirit of Christianity was extinguished when Constantine made it the official State religion. Much later Kierkegaard said that his aim was to put Christ back into Christendom. He then humorously observed that too many had made Christ into a philosophy professor! lol! (And how prescient the hunch-backed minister was, for when George Bush was asked by a reporter, "Mr. President, who is your favorite philosopher?", he answered, "Jesus Christ." Now THAT is scarey!)

well...i want to tell u something interesting about myself :P
Firstly i was the one of those few posters who said not to judge all men and i told it in the context of those words from OP: "all men are the same and they are pigs". It's judgmental to call them all pigs (no matter religious they are or not).
Secondly, if u say that being judgmental is not necessarily a bad thing and we are constantly being judged in legitimate ways throughout our lives ....i think u mean sensible criticism rather than stupid blaming without any tolerance. And if u judge religious leaders pointing out at their hypocrisy (even if they really worthy) do u think u are much better and therefor u have some rights to judge them?
Yes, i agree that many of them are often judgmental and hypocritical. But don't u understand that judging them leads to nothing at best and to world wars at worst?

I went to protestant church (SDA) since 1993 till 2001. I was very
active there and did a lot of work for my church, so i know all the hidden moments which have been happening inside of churches (and not only protestant ones). And i could tell u a lot about that, but this is not what im going to say here....I has left the church because of dissapointment and disgust for hypocrisy of religious people. But i dont judge them because i dont care anymore and IMO the era of religion and faith has already gone. Many people had left their churches because of the same reason: it's useless to go there, to be called a christian (or any other "righteous" name) if you are not able to love and forgive. Nobody gets eternal life keeping his/her heart close for love, kindness, forgiveness, etc....and the most important thing for me is freedom to choose.
That's why i refrain from judging whoever. U try to confine someone in your own conception about life, religion, laws of God or people and so on if u judge someone! But your conseption is subjective, it cannot be true. It can be right only for yourself. So everybody goes his own way and let it be so. No judging!

U ask how do we connect with the eternal or transcendent world with the “conduit” gone? Easy: through your heart. Look for God inside yourself and turn to him when u are in need of spiritual succor. Religion helps to those who want someone to lead and guide them ...this is the lot of weak and restricted people.

sorry for many typos ....this is one of them i want to correct:
"Nobody gets eternal life keeping his heart closed* for love, etc..."

hope somebody reads that all :D

"And if u judge religious leaders pointing out at their hypocrisy (even if they really worthy) do u think u are much better and therefor u have some rights to judge them?
Yes, i agree that many of them are often judgmental and hypocritical. But don't u understand that judging them leads to nothing at best and to world wars at worst? "

Sure I have the right to judge them, and so does any other thinking person. They present themselves as moral teachers who have lessons worth following. Each of us chooses -- consciously or unconsciously -- who we are going to have as teachers and role models. Our parents? Movie stars (talking about poverty or global warming or whatever)? Athletes? Politicians? When we make these decisions, it's only reasonable that we look at how they live. Do they practice what they preach (literally in the case of religious leaders)? Or do they say "this is what YOU should do (such as stay away from cc) but I'm going to do the opposite (spend an hour in instant action every night)". Bad messengers and hypocrites can carry good messages, sure, but I'm going to be very curious why they don't do what they say I should do. Are they teachers because they truly believe what they say will help people? Or is it just a form of egoism, they love having people listen to them? And I don't agree that judging them leads to "nothing at best, and world wars at worst". if you judge them accurately, you can make better decisions about who to follow. That's not "nothing", on the contrary it's very valuable. And saying "I'm not going to judge" just hands authority to those aggressive enough to take it, or charismatic enough to get others to give it to them, and that's a dangerous way to select leaders.

do u need any leaders at all? are u too weak and narrow-minded to build your own life without them? do u really like it if someone points out how should u live, although he doesn't have an idea about your life?
A dangerous way is the way where u choose to trust your life to someone else- no matter how they present themselves, and to listen to your leaders instead of your heart.
So if someone leads u a wrong way, you are the only guilty in it. It was YOUR choice. Therefor no reason and no right to blame anyone except yourself.

"take care, " With all due respects, I think you misread "anonymous99". I don't believe he is saying he is looking for a leader, but rather if we do not judge someone who is an imposter or an evil power monger, like Jim Jones, we will have chosen him by default. He's saying a failure to judge someone who is not a worthy leader is tantamount to deciding in his favor and THAT is dangerous.

But to take your ideal of a society without leaders, where every man and woman choose their own path in life, I believe even if it were possible to achieve, it would not be desirable. It would only create a sea of relativism in which every man's self-interest was in conflict or, at the very least, not in sync with any larger purpose than the gratification of each man's desires. In the absence of a community of believers committed to an aim beyond the self interest of each individual, this society looks allfully like Hobbes "state of nature...in which every man is at war with every other man," i.e.the "war of all against all."

I have no problem with the idea that if one is strong, one need not follow the teachings of any teacher or cleric, but I do have a problem with a society whose members are not bound together by a common belief system, whether religious or political. The result is a society in which the 'self' is exhaulted at the expense of the common good or group. Sometimes

At least one thing can be said in favor of orgainzed religion: It serves as an organizing force, bringing people together under one roof and uniting them by their commonly held beliefs, beliefs which are reinforced by ritual.

yes... and this way they feel much stronger like one big family....i dont mind of that either :D ...unless their belief makes them kill somebody or hate. In this case the "roof" is very dangerous.

And it seems u misunderstood me too, Meloman ....im not talking about ALL the society and its' leaders....but about every particular person who may be guided by his own common sense and intuition, not asking any advices of those who he expects to be "righteous" (are we talking mostly about religious leaders?)

The main idea i want to share: some leaders know they are bad and hypocritical but they pretend to be good and present themselves such a way in order to make u believe and to follow them....another are sincere, but lead u by the wrong way (the meaning of "wrong" is in the ligh of objectivity) ...and trusting them is a mistake in both variants. Only each particular person can really know what he want from this life: what for he came to this world? what does his soul need? what is his life' destination? his life' tasks? does God already love him or he have to ask his forgiveness (to be saved) a bit longer banging his head on the floor =)) ...and so on. There are many advisers who "know the way" ...choosing any of them as your leaders, means to trust them. I just told about not trusting anyone in that point. And i dont point out "the right way" as well....just sharing my opinion.
As for judging others...well, like i said before i accept judging as a healthy, sensible criticism. And our friends, parents, teachers criticize us because they LOVE us and wish us all the best. Those who judge others with bad feelings and intentions ...are worthy of the same treatment, that's all.
As for your question, Meloman, i am from Russia :)

Thanks Melomane. I think I was misunderstood. I know it sounds very romantic and heroic to say "I follow my own path, I'm totally independent" and so on. I just don't think it's true. I wasn't talking about slavish or blind obedience -- not at all. But most of us are influenced by someone -- our families at least, and usually others too. Religion is just another source of leaders, but unlike most others these usually claim divine inspiration or teaching. I'm just saying "think" before we take lessons from anyone, religious or secular.

You are welcome A__99. It's interesting that you use the expression, "slavish and blind obedience," people often speak of faith and love as being blind. In the former blindness seems justified insofar as faith is, to paraphrase St. Paul, a belief in things unseen. Still, it seems to me an act of faith requires examining what manifest evidence there is. Love (Eros,Cupid), however, seems to be of a more mischievous character. The child of the godess Night, Eros struck awe even into the heart of Zeus, according to the Orphic myths. Ahh, how much human suffering has been born of blind faith and blind love!

"Man is born free," says Rousseau at the beginning of his famous work, "On the Origin of Inequality Among Men, "but everywhere he is in chains." Might "slavish obedience" have something to do with it?

“take care,” Thank you for sharing your personal experience. I appreciate your thoughtful remarks. It seems you and “yes we can…” agree that our ability to connect to the eternal is, at bottom, an altogether personal affair that does not require our adherence to the orthodoxy of institutional beliefs.

Let me first clarify that in saying I agree with “yes we…” re: judging religious leaders, I did not mean to imply I disagreed with your objection to the cheap-shot judgment rendered by the party who called all men pigs. As you said, it has to be understood in context---even that sardonic remark, which I assume was not intended as altogether serious.

It seems you are uncomfortable with the word “judgment” and prefer to call justifiable instances of it “sensible criticism.” Fine, it is a semantic difference. I would only observe that being “judged” need not have a negative connotation or in any way imply “stupid blaming without tolerance.” Parents judge their children, but are not intolerant of them. Likewise, teachers judge their students and employers their employees, but are not intolerant of them. But I understand your point, for being “judgmental” has come to mean intolerant. It’s probably best we invent a whole new word. And I’m with you in regard of those “judgmental” sorts whom I refer to as sanctimonious crapsters---like Jerry Falwell et al. A nationally conspicuous, self-declared born-again Christian, Falwell is the embodiment of hypocrisy for whom “stupid blaming without tolerance” doesn’t go far enough! One would want to add blaming without a factual basis, as he did after 9/11 when he outrageously declared that 9/11 was God’s wrath visited on the nation for the iniquity of homosexuals!

So, I am now judging Falwell and if I understand you correctly, you maintain we should never, nor do we have a right to judge others (“lest we be judged?”) Are you making the scriptural argument, “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone?” And are you further claiming that such judgments have been the root cause of all religious wars? I certainly would not entirely disagree, seeing that wars of religion have accounted for and continue to account for so much human slaughter—and all in the name of God! Of the world’s major religions, only Buddhism has the distinction of never having a war fought in its name. That said, I think it naïve to suppose the simple decision to remain silent rather than point a judgmental finger would avert war. And the problems are not confined to conflicts between one religion and another. Take the pedophilia scandal in the Catholic Church. Could this have been mitigated if the laity had exposed these abuses generations ago instead of paying obsequious deference to the clergy and the Church hierarchy that covered it up, somehow persuading itself that the supposed sanctity of their office and the Church’s image superseded in importance any consideration for the victims of these pedophile priests. Granted these priests are only human, but so are their victims, and a failure to judge the former results in a grave injustice to the latter. So, what I’m saying is sometimes saying nothing causes as much or more harm as speaking out, and speaking out constitutes a legitimate and necessary judgment. Here judgment does not cause an evil, but serves as a corrective. A laissez faire approach perpetuates the problem by failing to make this judgment.

The main problem in making a judgment, either as an individual or as a member of a group, is not that the party doing the judging thinks he (or a group) is better than the other person (or group). The real problem is making sure a judgment is made for the right reasons, at the right time, in the right way and in the right measure. This is the test of legitimacy. The problem of one party thinking he is better than another only arises when a judgment is not legitimate.

You certainly would not be the first to say the “era of faith and religion” has passed. I think this is what Nietzsche had in mind when he declared---much to people’s horror---that “God is dead.” Even more cynically he said, “The last Christian died on Calvary.” You also echo Marx in saying religion is “the lot of weak and restricted people.” Marx called religion the “opium of the people,” with which I agree, but not without qualifications. Later Freud called religion an illusion born of an infantile need for a father figure. This interpretation certainly is seductive, and it fits very neatly into Freud’s own Psychoanalytic Theory, but it is overly reductive and precludes any discussion of the near-infinite variety of religious experiences, a rich survey of which can be found in Wm. James lectures, “The Varieties of Religious Experience.”

In the end, it seems to me the religious impulse (with or without the institution) boils down to this: Man longs for something larger than himself and he wants to make sense of his world and his place in it. What’s more, whether he is a member of an organized religion, privately religious, or without any conscious belief about the eternal or transcendent world, the common denominator of human existence is that we must all die. The shadow of death is cast the moment we are born and becomes impossible to ignore as we grow older. We are mortal, yet we long for immortality, hence mankind’s near-universal belief---in one form or another---in the immortality of the soul. Some people cling to the Christian promise of “eternal life.” Others find an intimation of immortality in their children and grandchildren. Others in their work. Few, if any, can believe that when we die the curtain comes down and it’s lights out, nothing more.

Finally, I agree that every individual’s conception of the world is subjective, but largely shaped by the web of culture and belief in which that person grew up. And though there are many points of agreement shared by people who were raised in the same culture and belief system, a closer examination would show every individual’s conception of the world to be as unique as his fingerprint. And in matters of faith and belief, I agree with you, “no judging.” I can and will respect my fellow citizen’s right to believe what he will and practice his faith freely, provided he respects my right to do likewise and provided he does not attempt to impose his beliefs and values on me and the rest of society. Unfortunately the Christian Right, with its unabashed agenda of dissolving the separation between church and state and its equally unabashed design for theocratic rule, has no respect for this sacred liberty.

P.S. “take care,” If you don’t mind me asking, where are you from?

We were raised to hate communism and communists. As we got older most of realized that all people are largely at the mercy of their politicians. One thing CC has taught me. Russians are no different than Americans in most ways. They are smart and funny and they like most everything we like. They have a great spirit and to my surprise they are incredibly loyal to their country and feel it has a great future. Would I marry a Russian? I would marry a woman who was good for me and I was good for her. A woman who would make me want to be a better man. Regardless of where she was from.

I am from the USA. First, I was not "raised" to hate anyone. Second, I am not totally at the "mercy" of anyone, let alone politicians as long as I have free-will and the ability to think. As for the original question, it is totally irrelevant and ridiculous. We are all humans and that is all that is relevant.

<<I am from the USA. First, I was not "raised" to hate anyone.>>

Perhaps you're younger? You really need to be a Boomer to have been raised to "hate," or at least not trust, Russians.

<<Second, I am not totally at the "mercy" of anyone, let alone politicians as long as I have free-will and the ability to think.>>

We all are, regardless of what you say. For instance, you may be against the war in Iraq, yet your tax dollars are going there nonetheless.

<<As for the original question, it is totally irrelevant and ridiculous. We are all humans and that is all that is relevant.>>

That she asked it makes it relevent, because she is human and deserves a thoughtful answer.

I AM AN AMERICA, I was raised not to hate anyone ,except don't trust the blacks , Russia is our enemy and it is a evil empire,don't turn your back on a Mexican.
I went into the army where I was trained to kill Russians on the battle field before they killed me.
I do not dislikes Russians,blacks,orr Mexicans.We are all the same,deep down all we want is a good safe life and the best for our famillies.
Also remember the vast majority of American ,their ancestors came for some where other than America,so why should I care where the person you are marrying is from aslong as the marrage isn't pure economic reasons

yes but i'm not from america so my answer is irrelevant,like me! :--))

that was to the marriage question by the way :--))

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wow i'm appreciated or at least my answer is :--))

ok, then i'll share my thoughts too :P
it's clear from your question - u dont believe yourself that America "really has such a bad conception about Russia" and of course all sensible people understand - it doesnt depend on nationality, but it depends on personality, regardless what country a person came from :P ...though we might get some information from mass media that America and Russia hate each other, but i think they mostly dance to politicians piping.:P ...the more u r reminded of any kind of bad conception towards some country - the more u believe it and have it like your own idea....come on, let's rather love each other ....life is wonderful! :D

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I agree

great words Nadeen :)

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good grief what kind of question is that,, americans would married any kind of woman from anywhere if their heart, soul, friendship and caring for each other, it wouldnt bother us americans if she was from hell---cool and by the way i am not going to answer the forum that xxxfluffyxxx wrote on signs that you're a drunk, ok---party on room

we all have preconceptions of "the other" person - our culture and upbringing does have an influence on us - none of us are as independent-thinking as we think - there are good and bad people in all places - i hope she will leave russia without too many regrets, because I could never live there, i am scared of the direction putin is taking russia

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unless he DOESN'T leave... he seems to want to be the new Stalin...

and just look how the gene pool has been polluted

<<i just wonder if America really has such a bad conception about Russia>>

Bad in what way?

<<would you marry a girl from Russia?>>

Yes, but she won't marry me. :P

For the older generation… the ones who went through the cold war…. I am sure you will still find some who hang on to the “evil Russia” beliefs… but there is a new generation of us out here now… rough guess… 40 years and younger maybe…. Who do not see Russia or any of the former Soviet block this way.
Personally…. I do not give a dam where a person is from, friend or lover. What I look at is the person, are they nice? Are they kind? Are they caring? Are they a decent person? This also applies for religion… I do not give a dam about that either! A person is a person and where they are from or what God they believe in is just all secondary to me.
So dear Russian host…. Care to get married luv? :))))

I know the nice answer is to say that we're all individuals and human and countries don't matter. Sure, some of us are so independent and free-thinking and aware that this is true. But my impression is that Russia and the USA are different in some important ways, and people marrying across this line are fools if they don't think about this. It's not that one is good and the other bad, they're just different. A few thoughts:
1. Russians seem more family-oriented. Plenty of Americans have children that they don't seem to want to raise, or really spend that much time with. The Russians I've known would walk through fire for their kids.
2. Russian women work outside the home as much as American women, but it seems less normal for the Russian woman's job to be the "power" job in the family, with the bigger pay and status.
3. Americans are more mobile. They're less likely to live near their parents, brothers, sisters and may go weeks or months without talking to them.
4. Americans are more trusting, at least to start with. They don't just assume everybody is out to scam them, or that somebody must be getting screwed. They think that they are playing by the rules and they expect others to do the same.
5. Russian women are more jealous than American women (and I'm not just basing this on cc). I've heard that this is because Russian guys are more likely to cheat, but I have no way of knowing if this is true or not.
6. Russian guys come across as sexist to Americans. American guys come across as wimpy to Russians.
7. Russians (and most foreigners) have no idea how hard Americans work and how much they hate to lose. They think it just rains money in the USA, and it doesn't. And the US is a bad country to be poor in.
8. Russia is much more centralized than the US. There is Moscow and St-Pb, cosmopolitan wealthy cities... and then there is the rest of the country. The USA is not just New York and LA, and smaller American cities are not necessarily dumps (some are, too).

That said, I could marry a Russian, but I would be careful. I would want to be sure we both knew what we were getting in to, and had seen the other person in the city we would be living in, not just as a tourist (and for God's sake not just on the phone or webcam).

number 4 is a crack-up!!!! :--))

Thanks. But #4 is true, in my opinion.

I visited Russia in 1998 and enjoyed it very much. I have great respect for Russian culture. Its history is rich if often tragic. I love Russian Literature & Russian Music.

It's tragic what's going on now. The Russian ecomomy is not doing well, the Russian Mafia seem to be more in control than Putin .

I would marry a Russian girl, but not through one of the many scam Russian ageny

i got into a fight with myself because i wouldn't buy me a drink when it was my shout :--))

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don't know what you are talking about

Jiver... you remember some of those from last weekend :P

very funny Fluffy :P I am wondering why Chaser wont answer now :P

you would post this here and not in her forum why?

coz i had to end the membership ,,,,,,stupid ,,,,,,you can still put in a post even as a guest ,,,,,,,,,,thats why ok

True, but it would still surely have been more appropriate to say these things in an e mail or SMS to the host personally. Do you not know her phone number etc? perhaps you're not as close as you believe.

Someone asks a simple question and you have to reply with 3rd grade name calling...sheezz

UR the one that got caught on here by ur wife and ur calling ANYONE stupid???? LOOOOL GO take a look in the mirror!!!! LOL

i can understand that Sam :)

haha, somebody got busted with the ole internet cyber relationship.
but then again, bemy is a good girl to sal sal with...

all things to all men?

mmm, The Gladiator staring Russell Crow

hmmm-favorite show-- Gone With The Wind-----rett butler saying frankly my dear i dont give a damn

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a massive thunder & lightning show especially if its followed by a rainbow :--))

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dito

chase hun, please come back home, i missed you dear, the house is lonely without you here,,, sell that bike, quit your drinking and come back-ok

hmmm--im not ready for a life--can i play just a little longer-cool

more importantly...who gives a crap?
I'm here forsexy ladies

Hospice helped dying man lose his virginity - by Stewart Payne

Last Updated: 6:15pm GMT 31/01/2007

A young disabled man who receives care for his life-limiting illness at a hospice run by a nun spoke yesterday of his decision to use a prostitute to experience sex before he dies.

Sister Frances Dominica gave her support to 22-year-old Nick Wallis, who was born with Duchenne muscular dystrophy. Sufferers usually die by their thirties.

Mr Wallis told staff at the Douglas House hospice in Oxford that he wanted to experience sexual intercourse. He explained that he had hoped to form an intimate and loving relationship with a woman, but his disability had acted as a barrier.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/01/27/nvirgin27.xml

Did he cum and go at the same time?
The British are cummiong!
The British are cumming!

what a great idea

I think the bigger bully students said they were head cutters and told the smaller weaker students if they wanted to go back home to mum and pup at the end of the day they would become part of the " IN GROUP " Muslim... or bend over and kiss their ass... oops I mean Head goodbye

why do muslims in england always seem so angry?

They aren't allowed to have fun or be happy, it's part of their religion. They just pray all day.

Well, if they are in a big crowd, they are probably pissed off because their detinators are malfunctioning.

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(K)paco bb

that's me............paco bb :-P

yes it is paco bb

when i check hosts profiles and they are months old :P at least 1 or 2 new pics each week... or every 2 weeks... dont even have to be naked... just new! :)

I hate it when you look through the photos and it's 200 pics of the same headshot. Kinda reminds me of a highschool yearbook.
Belmont High Football Rules!!

i hate whiners who fake shit to get attention and r total assholes anyway

no no nooooooooo!!!!!! dont hate yourself or no-one else will lobe you!!

love*

i hope you're taking the fucking piss.... dude... go make up your own lies if your so desperate to con a woman into having sex with you... better still hire a prostitute!

I have used one lie that worked. I told the woman that I was moving very far away and it was my last night in town to be with her. It worked. It was just a question so relax. I was just curious to know if anyone else has used a lie for sex.

wow,good question.i don't have to lie,no women will have sex with me no matter what i say to them.LOLOLOL

I have that trouble to buddy

Lied with someone to get sex? Are you kidding?
I lie when I'm having sex..."Oh baby, you are the best" (titties look like a half sucked milk dud).
"Mmmm, you're tight" (please god, don't let me fall in and drown)
"That was fantastic" (Did I just commit necrophelia? Cuz it felt like I fucked a dead girl).
"I'm gonna call you :)" (you'll never see me again unless I'm drunk and desperate)

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because MOST... not all... but MOST men are pigs Gort :-) take your time in trusting them :))

If most men are pigs, what does that say about the women that fuck them?
Hhmmm? Ask yourself that one.

that would make them kind and caring of course! duhhh!!!
and of course i was not refering to actually 4 legged pigs... just in their chilidish ways

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and that was just to a blow-up doll,right carl? :--))

I'm telling to the guys: Ohh, pls, stop to think about yr business now, let's make sex now and later i'll help u in yr business..." It allways works ;)!!!