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Any potential gf here?
My gf havent been so honest to me about her past to me and im dissapointed so im thinking become member here maybe find other gf an visit her this summer. Any nice single girls here?
RE: Any potential gf here?
Yes and despite them being so gorgeous, almost none of them have a man in their life. Well, except their fav viewers in 1-2-1 ofc.
RE: Any potential gf here?
i see u already learnt to b like us other members and tell the only lie we need
RE: Any potential gf here?
Although unfortunately not young enough or good looking enough to keep the girl :P
RE: Any potential gf here?
wait...........you mean to tell me that i can actually find a gf here? after so many years of being here,you tell me this now?lol wish i could find a gf here. :( lol
RE: Any potential gf here?
Short answer no. Anything is possible but there is so much to overcome (age, distance, language, culture, visas, trust, expense, family, etc) it is unlikely. If you mean short term gf to chat with online or even to visit for frienship with benefits...then sure. That has happened quite a few times here. If you are talking about love, marriage, children and a long happy life together...that is as elusive as the truth on CC.
RE: Any potential gf here?
I know who I am looking for...Triksy...and she is gone from CC ....
RE: Any potential gf here?
never say never Darling...so don't be so sure that you will stay singel....i am working on you...and i am the real angeldash lover so.....you can't not resite me to long
RE: Any potential gf here?
are you working on me??? ok show me what you have? i am curious to know....so work on me prety baby
RE: Any potential gf here?
you not avaible dash my angel????? so it means you will not work on me and tease me???? to bad i at enjoy your teasing and flirthing
RE: Any potential gf here?
WOOOHOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! Please flirt with me, I love it. :P Although I am pretty good at teasing too. ;)
RE: Any potential gf here?
so beter you tease me, and who say i wanted you as my gf?? maybe i want you as my .............
RE: Any potential gf here?
so don't read if it border you.......don't be so curious to read every thinks you see
RE: Any potential gf here?
You might think that you know who I am although, I doubt it. I am very mysterious.... You are correct though my teasing is not that great. Now that I think about it, I am not good at flirting also. I guess I will just be quiet and observe so I can learn. :)
RE: Any potential gf here?
Hey ! Take care !! of course you can find your gf here but take care , i had a story IRL with a girl here and she was not honnest with me. Of course there are a lot of good girsl here but dont forget than first most of them come here to win their life not to find love.
RE: Any potential gf here?
what i like in this question is the "nice" potential gf ;) we now where is the interest ;)
RE: Any golfers out there?
If i took part in the competition i sure wud beat him, but those golf pants are not my style)))) Ure lucky this time, Adam))))
RE: Any golfers out there?
Hey Monika, If you're fit to hoist my bag and slip the hood off my wood you could caddy for me!
I'm usually straight up the middle, but do tend to get stuck in the rough now and again
I'm usually straight up the middle, but do tend to get stuck in the rough now and again
RE: Any golfers out there?
I only golfed once and was thrown off the course and banned for fighting (Hey, hockey's in my blood, what can I say..)
I may go streaking at one of the tournaments some time though.
I may go streaking at one of the tournaments some time though.
RE: Any golfers out there?
LOL - you'd fit right in with my crowd. You Canadian too? Go LEAFS Go!!! ;))
RE: Any golfers out there?
Get your mind out of the gutter K. I hope you're talking "platonically" :P lol
It takes the STRONGEST heart of all...
Down below, Redandmad reacted to "Miserable Gutted Member's" post by saying "I'm really sorry for you, but everybody said how bad all hosts are! Anyone counted how many host's hearts were hurt?
Mine too!" Well, you know something? She's right. There ARE skunky guys who will come to a Host and say all kinds of things. And then they don't follow through on any of their promises. So, Redandmad, you have a good reason to go "Grrrrrr" and be mad because of the times you've been hurt. As I said the other day in the Viewer's Forum, we have a problem here and there's no easy answer to it. And it goes like this...
Every so often a guy meets a Host. They are both single (or perhaps they're seeing someone, but they're open to the idea of possibly moving on)... sparks fly between them... talks about a REAL romance start to fill the air... and that's when trouble sets in. And that's because so many guys have met Hosts who will say "Baby, you're not like the other guys. YOU are very special to me." And that's when we -- as guys -- start to give in to our feelings and wildest dreams. Deep inside we KNOW we should stay cool and calm. We KNOW the odds are against us for meeting a single, beautiful Host who romantically likes us back. But maybe...just maybe...this time we've met someone really special. Sure, it may seem crazy at first to meet the girl of your dreams while she works as a cam girl -- to meet the girl you want to spend the rest of your life with while she's chatting up or stripping for LOTS of other guys -- but sometimes fate and magic step in.
And for the Host, it's a chance -- yes, that one in a million chance -- to also meet the man of her dreams. Someone who will love her for who she really is... no matter what country she comes from or what her life and background is. It's a chance to BE in love… it's a chance at a fresh start… and best of all, it's a chance to actually BUILD a life with someone she cares about. And that's something we all want, no? So who could blame a Host (or any woman) for having a romantic dream like that?
Unfortunately, the guy has heard the "Baby, YOU are special to me" line so many times, from all the other Hosts who were only after his money or who finally revealed that she really does have a BF or husband in her life. So, now as he meets this NEW host, he finds it very hard to believe that he's REALLY so special to her. So now his sense of distrust...his need to protect himself…blocks out the love that he wants to feel and give into so much.
Meanwhile, the Host has heard so many promises from so many guys, she figures this New Guy -- who is saying he really, really cares for her -- is just going to be another disappointment. She figures she might as well say and do whatever it takes to make money while she can. After all, she figures he's just going to dump her and move on to another Host the first chance he gets. So now she does the same thing -- to protect herself, she closes a big part of her heart TOO.
And that's when the SADDEST thing happens. Because that's when two people who had a real chance at love start going around in circles... like a dog chasing his own tail... because each one WANTS to trust the other... each one is HOPING its love... yet each one is SO skeptical from all of their previous heartbreaks and disappointments that they're just waiting for the other person to screw up.
No, it's worse than that -- they're counting on it. And that's when they start to play silly mind games on each other, just waiting to see when the other person will say or do something that will allow them to say "AHA! I KNEW I couldn't trust you! I KNEW you were lying to me!" And that's when they go their separate ways -- angry and hurt--- and the Guy kicks a rock in the road and grumbles "All hosts are alike" and the girl turns off her computer and sheds a tear and says "All guests are alike." And sadly, two people who COULD have found love break up just because they couldn't get past their trust issues.
And THAT is the curse of falling in love online. NOT because the girl works as a Host showing her goodies to lots of guys, and NOT because the guy came here initially looking for some sexy fun. Deep inside, BOTH of them could actually be very good people. The curse is that when you fall in love online -- whether you are a Host or a Guest -- you need to have the strongest will of all to make it work, and you need to trust in another person more than you've probably ever believed in someone in your entire life. And I've said this before and I'll say it again: THAT takes the STRONGEST heart of all.
Mine too!" Well, you know something? She's right. There ARE skunky guys who will come to a Host and say all kinds of things. And then they don't follow through on any of their promises. So, Redandmad, you have a good reason to go "Grrrrrr" and be mad because of the times you've been hurt. As I said the other day in the Viewer's Forum, we have a problem here and there's no easy answer to it. And it goes like this...
Every so often a guy meets a Host. They are both single (or perhaps they're seeing someone, but they're open to the idea of possibly moving on)... sparks fly between them... talks about a REAL romance start to fill the air... and that's when trouble sets in. And that's because so many guys have met Hosts who will say "Baby, you're not like the other guys. YOU are very special to me." And that's when we -- as guys -- start to give in to our feelings and wildest dreams. Deep inside we KNOW we should stay cool and calm. We KNOW the odds are against us for meeting a single, beautiful Host who romantically likes us back. But maybe...just maybe...this time we've met someone really special. Sure, it may seem crazy at first to meet the girl of your dreams while she works as a cam girl -- to meet the girl you want to spend the rest of your life with while she's chatting up or stripping for LOTS of other guys -- but sometimes fate and magic step in.
And for the Host, it's a chance -- yes, that one in a million chance -- to also meet the man of her dreams. Someone who will love her for who she really is... no matter what country she comes from or what her life and background is. It's a chance to BE in love… it's a chance at a fresh start… and best of all, it's a chance to actually BUILD a life with someone she cares about. And that's something we all want, no? So who could blame a Host (or any woman) for having a romantic dream like that?
Unfortunately, the guy has heard the "Baby, YOU are special to me" line so many times, from all the other Hosts who were only after his money or who finally revealed that she really does have a BF or husband in her life. So, now as he meets this NEW host, he finds it very hard to believe that he's REALLY so special to her. So now his sense of distrust...his need to protect himself…blocks out the love that he wants to feel and give into so much.
Meanwhile, the Host has heard so many promises from so many guys, she figures this New Guy -- who is saying he really, really cares for her -- is just going to be another disappointment. She figures she might as well say and do whatever it takes to make money while she can. After all, she figures he's just going to dump her and move on to another Host the first chance he gets. So now she does the same thing -- to protect herself, she closes a big part of her heart TOO.
And that's when the SADDEST thing happens. Because that's when two people who had a real chance at love start going around in circles... like a dog chasing his own tail... because each one WANTS to trust the other... each one is HOPING its love... yet each one is SO skeptical from all of their previous heartbreaks and disappointments that they're just waiting for the other person to screw up.
No, it's worse than that -- they're counting on it. And that's when they start to play silly mind games on each other, just waiting to see when the other person will say or do something that will allow them to say "AHA! I KNEW I couldn't trust you! I KNEW you were lying to me!" And that's when they go their separate ways -- angry and hurt--- and the Guy kicks a rock in the road and grumbles "All hosts are alike" and the girl turns off her computer and sheds a tear and says "All guests are alike." And sadly, two people who COULD have found love break up just because they couldn't get past their trust issues.
And THAT is the curse of falling in love online. NOT because the girl works as a Host showing her goodies to lots of guys, and NOT because the guy came here initially looking for some sexy fun. Deep inside, BOTH of them could actually be very good people. The curse is that when you fall in love online -- whether you are a Host or a Guest -- you need to have the strongest will of all to make it work, and you need to trust in another person more than you've probably ever believed in someone in your entire life. And I've said this before and I'll say it again: THAT takes the STRONGEST heart of all.
RE: It takes the STRONGEST heart of all...
Nice post, RC, and very romantic...
Not all of us are looking for our true loves here :P
Perhaps the best we can do is to realize that each person is an individual, with his or her own dreams and flaws, and to avoid lumping a host or viewer with the "rest of them." And to remain open-hearted to possibilities, despite the hurts inflicted by others.
Forgiveness, no less than trust, takes a strong heart.
Not all of us are looking for our true loves here :P
Perhaps the best we can do is to realize that each person is an individual, with his or her own dreams and flaws, and to avoid lumping a host or viewer with the "rest of them." And to remain open-hearted to possibilities, despite the hurts inflicted by others.
Forgiveness, no less than trust, takes a strong heart.
RE: It takes the STRONGEST heart of all... ~ Reality Check
Aye RC, tis true and many a year have I known it to be so.
True, not everyone here is a romantic. In fact I'd be surprised if the first thing that draws people to this place was the idea of romance. But love and loss are universal constants and so why should CC be any different?
The thing about long distance, long term relationships is that they require a little more than just faith, trust and understanding. They require commitment, vision and a whole load of luck as well.
Sadly though, even with the miracle of meeting, or the miracle of finding someone who would be just perfect for you, it does not actually mean that is how the story is going to end. I know I have said it before but I feel it is worth mentioning again that sometimes, just sometimes, not matter how madly you fall for each other, sometimes love itself, is just not enough.
But c'est la vie, ne pas? Better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all. no?
It is everyone's fate to feel their heart bleeding once in a while, but it takes a true romantic to suffer the cuts, the stings and the pain to want to try it all again.
That was a nice post RC. Thanks :)
TNTCRENTFIBTO
True, not everyone here is a romantic. In fact I'd be surprised if the first thing that draws people to this place was the idea of romance. But love and loss are universal constants and so why should CC be any different?
The thing about long distance, long term relationships is that they require a little more than just faith, trust and understanding. They require commitment, vision and a whole load of luck as well.
Sadly though, even with the miracle of meeting, or the miracle of finding someone who would be just perfect for you, it does not actually mean that is how the story is going to end. I know I have said it before but I feel it is worth mentioning again that sometimes, just sometimes, not matter how madly you fall for each other, sometimes love itself, is just not enough.
But c'est la vie, ne pas? Better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all. no?
It is everyone's fate to feel their heart bleeding once in a while, but it takes a true romantic to suffer the cuts, the stings and the pain to want to try it all again.
That was a nice post RC. Thanks :)
TNTCRENTFIBTO
RE: It takes the STRONGEST heart of all... ~ Reality Check
Romance to me means kissing while you have lots of sex :)
RE: It takes the STRONGEST heart of all... ~ Reality Check
i just made a note of that thx...if it doesnt work i blame u!!!
RE: It takes the STRONGEST heart of all...
It's interesting to know that guys like you come here with such thoughts.
RE: It takes the STRONGEST heart of all...
CC 101. Men will say anything to gain an advantage in a video (hotter show, lower price, true emotions expressed in actions). Hosts will say anything to gain an advantage (longer video, higher price, emotional addiction to host and her videos). Between this two truths is very little room for honesty. So there are members and hosts who are quite skunky. I like the phrase she or he who is without sin cast that first stone. Most here have done things in their own personal interests. After all this is a business and business has risks and rewards.
RE: It takes the STRONGEST heart of all...
what a cold hearted woman you are, then while peddeling this fantasy and illusion, you are taking part in a big dishonesty
RE: It takes the STRONGEST heart of all...
NO. Pity U... you are wrong on this. Sasha is one of the sweetest and nicest hosts I know. Cold-hearted is far far from the truth about her.
A member enters a host's room, has a great time, and then indicates he might be looking for something more. How is being honest then with a member about his chances cold-hearted? A cold-hearted host would lead the member to drain his wallet, when in reality he has absolutely no chance with her.
I think Sasha's approach is a compassionate one, actually. She knows that the member might never return, so she is giving up potential income to tell him she is involved already. And if he decides to visit her again, the relationship is an honest one, at least in the sense that a member cannot expect more from her than a hot show.
I fail to see how this is deceptive or illusory.
A member enters a host's room, has a great time, and then indicates he might be looking for something more. How is being honest then with a member about his chances cold-hearted? A cold-hearted host would lead the member to drain his wallet, when in reality he has absolutely no chance with her.
I think Sasha's approach is a compassionate one, actually. She knows that the member might never return, so she is giving up potential income to tell him she is involved already. And if he decides to visit her again, the relationship is an honest one, at least in the sense that a member cannot expect more from her than a hot show.
I fail to see how this is deceptive or illusory.
RE: It takes the STRONGEST heart of all...
I stand corrected. She never mentioned in her post she was involved already with someone, I read it three times. So you are correct, she is honest
password protected
what is this that a host is password protected for videochat? I never seen such before
RE: password protected
Host faq;
*Private access code* is a password that you set yourself (it can be different each time you have a private Videosession for different Viewers), and you should give this password to the Viewer who requested a private video session. Make sure that you will give this password in a private message!
*Private access code* is a password that you set yourself (it can be different each time you have a private Videosession for different Viewers), and you should give this password to the Viewer who requested a private video session. Make sure that you will give this password in a private message!
RE: password protected
sometimes we,hosts,give passwords for our best friends,good guys,who care of us.and visiting us often..instead of 121.couse 121 cost more,and password cost same as open session,so guy can econom on it:P .but guy pay lesss+gave privatness and nobofdy cant disturbe us.
RE: password protected
That is also how 121 was done in the past. There was one price per minute for video but if you wanted to have private time the host would set up a password, log off and typically change her price (higher) and you were all set.
RE: Get Naked!
I prefer fully clothed to start with but ending up with either naked or semi naked (as long as the inportant bits are naked :P).
When I go to glamour I want to see fullly naked and will only video with hosts that provide this.
But you're not missing much. As the girls keep telling me in comm chat I'm a cheap pervert :D
In fact I'm going to get a badge made.
When I go to glamour I want to see fullly naked and will only video with hosts that provide this.
But you're not missing much. As the girls keep telling me in comm chat I'm a cheap pervert :D
In fact I'm going to get a badge made.
RE: Get Naked!
well, I was always prefering Glam and Little shy...I don't like entering a video and the first thing I see, are spread legs and full nudity.
In fact, I like some nice talking, flirting and teasing....and later the whole package :P ...full nudity, playing and so on. And I always ask the girls what they would do in private...if a girl says no nudity or only lingerie or topless - sorry, that's not enough for me :D
In fact, I like some nice talking, flirting and teasing....and later the whole package :P ...full nudity, playing and so on. And I always ask the girls what they would do in private...if a girl says no nudity or only lingerie or topless - sorry, that's not enough for me :D
RE: Get Naked!
In any Adult category I expect full naked. In Glamour or Little Shy, I would expect fully clothed to begin with, but working to full naked, since it, of course, is not the same as Instant Action where you go for.... instant action.
There really shouldn't be any confusion. An Adult category should mean the host and customer are prepared for an Adult show.
There really shouldn't be any confusion. An Adult category should mean the host and customer are prepared for an Adult show.
RE: Get Naked!
It depends on the girl and how skilled and sexy she is at teasing, dancing and stripping. I prefer naked except for panties though if the moment is right a host who takes them off slowly or touches herself in a gentle sexy way is also appreciated.
RE: Get Naked!
I was born a nudiest and have never had any problem comming out of my clothes and that as caused some problems in the past nothing I cant handle.
RE: Get Naked!
No to the girls that refuse nudity , it's a job 100% of benefit or easy money never exist. for the rest it's a question of manners
a thanks and an update
first of all thank you to all of you that replied and gave comment on my earlier (and for what it's worth my first ever) post. since then I have had a few heart to hearts with the host (who btw I personally haven't seen here for 4 months) seems that all the "feelings" from her side over the past 2 1/2 years were false, she doesn't find me attractive in any way, she was playing me along cos she could....she also doesn't want to see me in work (which is something I will respect) either but wants to remain friends and chat about the weather etc when she is bored in work.....
Shes a nice girl, hard working, but I've developed very strong feelings for her over all this time and frankly feel a bit used now.
I'm not really sure what I ever expected to find in CC but I didn't want an expensive penfriend.....
My though is to try and walk away, at least until I no longer miss her... but it's not gonna be easy..........
'm not gonna badmouth hosts because this has happened to me, but I would like to say that playing with peoples feelings and emotions for a long period of time only ever ends in hurting someone who genuinely cares about you.......
people like that don't impact on your life that often, less and less as you grow older so you might want to think of that before you try and squeeze that extra dollar out of one of your regulars...
Shes a nice girl, hard working, but I've developed very strong feelings for her over all this time and frankly feel a bit used now.
I'm not really sure what I ever expected to find in CC but I didn't want an expensive penfriend.....
My though is to try and walk away, at least until I no longer miss her... but it's not gonna be easy..........
'm not gonna badmouth hosts because this has happened to me, but I would like to say that playing with peoples feelings and emotions for a long period of time only ever ends in hurting someone who genuinely cares about you.......
people like that don't impact on your life that often, less and less as you grow older so you might want to think of that before you try and squeeze that extra dollar out of one of your regulars...
RE: a thanks and an update
First of all I am really sorry to hear of your hurt feelings...
Wicked has it right: Reality Check's post in the Viewer's Forum should be required reading for both hosts and viewers.
Whether for two weeks or two years, relationships on CC are uncertain, at least until you can confirm them in reality, on the ground... until then, it's best I think to be light and nimble while you're in the air. And kindness always helps...
All the Best to you Sir.
Wicked has it right: Reality Check's post in the Viewer's Forum should be required reading for both hosts and viewers.
Whether for two weeks or two years, relationships on CC are uncertain, at least until you can confirm them in reality, on the ground... until then, it's best I think to be light and nimble while you're in the air. And kindness always helps...
All the Best to you Sir.
RE: a thanks and an update
im kinda guessing that host wants this fiendship to remain so you dont name and shame her...just wondering how many other guys she has or is doing the same too? Thats the way of the world i guess
RE: a thanks and an update
I must admit I never considered that....you don't like to think someone you felt close to could be so deceitful, and honestly, I don't think that is the case purely down to the ammount of time we did spend together, but I've been wrong about so much that nothing would suprise me now. Meanwhile I'n never give out her name cos it's her livelyhood we are talking about here and just cos she was good at hooking me and took it too far shouldn't mean I can fuck with her only means of income. Plus, I'm not vindictive, just dissappointed.....
RE: a thanks and an update
I'm not saying it doesn't happen both ways and I did say
"'i'm not gonna badmouth hosts because this has happened to me, but I would like to say that playing with peoples feelings and emotions for a long period of time only ever ends in hurting someone who genuinely cares about you......." the real point being the length of time she carried this for does not lend to being friends at the end of it all. A lie is a lie but to carry it so far is a show of the nature and true character of the person. If the member has spent so long being friends with the host then you can be pretty sure it is genuine affection he feels, and the host knows that. The lie could have been revealed or confessed much earlier on and possibly forgiven but to drag it out for so long is just wrong and hurtful.
I understand that hosts get hurt to but I'm willing to bet that the general motivation for a host to be here is to earn a living not fall in love whilst I'd also bet that most members are here cos they are lonely and/or frustrated in their lives and are actively , but maybe not always consiously, looking for a new love, a new direction. It therefore always puts the position of power with the host and not the member in any relationship that starts here.
I genuinely cared about her, still do, but the feelings I thought were reciprocated were false from day one. Regardles of the fact that over time she has decided to think of me as a friend and want to stay friends. the whole relationship has been built on a lie of her creation.
By all means be mad that it has happened to you as well, I would be to, but remember that you always hold the upper hand in the beginning of any relations formed here not the member.
"'i'm not gonna badmouth hosts because this has happened to me, but I would like to say that playing with peoples feelings and emotions for a long period of time only ever ends in hurting someone who genuinely cares about you......." the real point being the length of time she carried this for does not lend to being friends at the end of it all. A lie is a lie but to carry it so far is a show of the nature and true character of the person. If the member has spent so long being friends with the host then you can be pretty sure it is genuine affection he feels, and the host knows that. The lie could have been revealed or confessed much earlier on and possibly forgiven but to drag it out for so long is just wrong and hurtful.
I understand that hosts get hurt to but I'm willing to bet that the general motivation for a host to be here is to earn a living not fall in love whilst I'd also bet that most members are here cos they are lonely and/or frustrated in their lives and are actively , but maybe not always consiously, looking for a new love, a new direction. It therefore always puts the position of power with the host and not the member in any relationship that starts here.
I genuinely cared about her, still do, but the feelings I thought were reciprocated were false from day one. Regardles of the fact that over time she has decided to think of me as a friend and want to stay friends. the whole relationship has been built on a lie of her creation.
By all means be mad that it has happened to you as well, I would be to, but remember that you always hold the upper hand in the beginning of any relations formed here not the member.
Dirty Words
just read the post about "wanker" and thought everyone has them lets get a list of favorites, last time i was in russia "urals" a girl i was telling me as many russian words "bad words" she knew for MEN each bad word she uttered ...her smile grew and grew till it incompased her face.
"Bollocksed"
Multiple meanings, also spelled "bolloxed":
1. Exhausted: "I couldn't sleep at all last night, I'm completely bollocksed!"
2. Broken: "My foot pump is bollocksed."
3. An extreme state of inebriation or drug-induced stupor: "Last night I got completely bollocksed".
4. Hungover (or equivalent): "I drank two bottles of gin last night, I'm completely bollocksed".
"Bollocksed"
Multiple meanings, also spelled "bolloxed":
1. Exhausted: "I couldn't sleep at all last night, I'm completely bollocksed!"
2. Broken: "My foot pump is bollocksed."
3. An extreme state of inebriation or drug-induced stupor: "Last night I got completely bollocksed".
4. Hungover (or equivalent): "I drank two bottles of gin last night, I'm completely bollocksed".
RE: choice or crime?
Would we rather have children who are unwanted? Will they be adopted, and given good homes?
These are choices people make... unfortunate choices, in my view as a father myself... but I can't speak for them.
My brother adopted a foster child, a boy afflicted with Down's syndrome, who was being kept in a kennel with dogs by his former foster parents (they wanted the money). His real parents had drug problems and could not handle parenting. I am proud of my brother, but that is just one boy he is saving from a miserable life.
These are choices people make... unfortunate choices, in my view as a father myself... but I can't speak for them.
My brother adopted a foster child, a boy afflicted with Down's syndrome, who was being kept in a kennel with dogs by his former foster parents (they wanted the money). His real parents had drug problems and could not handle parenting. I am proud of my brother, but that is just one boy he is saving from a miserable life.
RE: choice or crime?
Unwanted children seems to be the key. There was a study done in the U.S, a few years ago. It was tracking the drop in crime rates over the past couple of decades.
What they found was that the drop in crime rates coincided with making abortion legal. The crime rate started to drop about 18 years after abortion became legal. The implication was that if the children are wanted, they will be taken care of, and will be much less likely to turn to crime.
Even more significant, abortion became legal at different times in different states, and the crime rate drop was delayed in the states where legalized abortion was delayed. The drop in the crime rate still occurred 18 years after abortion became legal in those states.
The study was quite vague, and needed follow up. Unfortunately I have not seen any of that follow up. Still, I found it to be quite interesting.
What they found was that the drop in crime rates coincided with making abortion legal. The crime rate started to drop about 18 years after abortion became legal. The implication was that if the children are wanted, they will be taken care of, and will be much less likely to turn to crime.
Even more significant, abortion became legal at different times in different states, and the crime rate drop was delayed in the states where legalized abortion was delayed. The drop in the crime rate still occurred 18 years after abortion became legal in those states.
The study was quite vague, and needed follow up. Unfortunately I have not seen any of that follow up. Still, I found it to be quite interesting.
RE: choice or crime?
i think it is up to the individual, theres no point in having kids if they don't want them, the kids will only grow up unloved.
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children are a burden that some choose not to deal with, why is that difficult to understand? and why on earth is that a sad thing?
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I dont have kids, I am 40 and I avoided having any kids all my life. I will definitely not even consider or contemplate having a kid. The world already have enough people as it is. It is not responsible to bring more kids to this world. We are living in an overpopulated planet with its natural resources almost depleted thanks to unconcious men and women that only behave and breed like animals. If you ask me, I will say I did not ask to be born. It's a choice I didn't make.
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The world being over populated is a myth. Facts show that if you took every single human on the face of the earth and stood them shoulder to shoulder they would barely cover one county of a state in the USA, As for food, well not having it is a localized thing, as some places have more food than they can use and it spoils while others have none. To say we shouldnt have children because of a lack of natural resources is actually rather selfish, since we want more for ourselves.
I would love to find the right woman to marry and have a family. I adore children and just love my nephew so much. Almost every person I know who has children says they are a blessing and not a curse. Those I know who never had any and hate the thought of having children are usually the most selfish people I know.
The world doesnt need less people, it just needs less people who think only of themselves. Less people who only think of what they can get from the world and other people and more who think of what they can give to the world and other people around them.
Those who live by the motto " take care of number one" usually end up being number one, in the little world of one that is centered around them. I have been there and it is a sad and lonely place. Im just glad I dont live there any more. And maybe soon that world will expand for me with a family of my own.
I would love to find the right woman to marry and have a family. I adore children and just love my nephew so much. Almost every person I know who has children says they are a blessing and not a curse. Those I know who never had any and hate the thought of having children are usually the most selfish people I know.
The world doesnt need less people, it just needs less people who think only of themselves. Less people who only think of what they can get from the world and other people and more who think of what they can give to the world and other people around them.
Those who live by the motto " take care of number one" usually end up being number one, in the little world of one that is centered around them. I have been there and it is a sad and lonely place. Im just glad I dont live there any more. And maybe soon that world will expand for me with a family of my own.
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Wake up! Our planet is not the same it used to be 200 years ago. Over population is a fact, not a myth. Most of Earth's 160,000 glaciers have been slowly shrinking and thinning for more than a century as the climate warms up from both natural causes and human activity. When the glaciers are gone, some decades from now, the water supply will be diminished. What are you thinking of? Food supply, especially water will not last forever! Geez, yours is really positive thinking, but the reality is that we shouldn't bring people that will suffer from our acts. IMHO, its selfish to bring kids that will have to deal with the disaster we had created.
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Actually there is as much water on earth today as there was 1million years ago. Maybe more since there have probably been some small comets impact earth in that time period. Water is either in the ocean, in the air, under the ground or frozen in the ice caps and glaciers. It may move from one place to another but it is not destroyed. The water you drink today, was probably drank by a dinosaur and then by a mammoth much later and maybe even more animals or people at some time in the past.
In the past the earth has also been much hotter and much colder. Most of these changes have been caused by the changes in the output of the sun, along with the changes in the earths orbit. A few were brought on by asteroid impacts and enormous volcanic eruptions. Humans really only contribute 0.4% of the total carbon dioxide that is put into the atmosphere each year, and one volcanic eruption less can make up for that easily.
In the past the earth has also been much hotter and much colder. Most of these changes have been caused by the changes in the output of the sun, along with the changes in the earths orbit. A few were brought on by asteroid impacts and enormous volcanic eruptions. Humans really only contribute 0.4% of the total carbon dioxide that is put into the atmosphere each year, and one volcanic eruption less can make up for that easily.
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6.7 billion people, standing shoulder to shoulder? even if everyone of them were freakishly thin and only a foot from left shoulder to right, that would still be a line of people well over 1 million miles long, dude... exactly what county in what state is over a million miles wide?
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Actually if you estimate 7 billion people on earth, and be generous and say they are 2meters wise and 1 meter thick, ( a very large person to be certain) then they would occupy 14 billion square meters. Sounds big but that is actually only 14,000 square kilometers which is a parcel of land 120km on each side. Ok and for the non metric folks that is 75 miles on each side of the square. So I admit I underestimated a little that is maybe 3 counties here in Kentucky, if everyone on earth has something like a 56 inch waist line and they would still have room to move around a little without hitting the person next to them. Now after a little searching I found that the Land area of the earth is 148,300,000 square km. so if you take the over estimated area a person covers on the earth multiplied by the 7 billion people and get 14,000 sqhare kilometers then if all the humans on earth were standing beside each other they would cover 0.0094% of the Earth's surface. That is about the same ratio of land covered by humans as what a period at the end of a sentence covers on a newspaper, well probably less than that actually.
So its best to do a little math before exclaiming someone is nuts.
So its best to do a little math before exclaiming someone is nuts.
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more pointless math fun:
ok, my statistic still standing, and considering that the earth has a circumference of roughly 25 thousand miles, then i can just as easily, frame things by saying that there are enough people on earth to line up, one shoulder to the next, to circle the planet more than 50 times. whoa! golly, can you believe that?!
i'm sorry, but your thinking is faulty.
no matter how closely you can imagine crowding together all of mankind that doesn't really say anything about the earth's carrying capacity.
tell me, how much of that total land area of the earth is realistically habitable by humans, and how much land is actually available and suitable for producing enough food to comfortably support human life? and of all the water you point out that is available to us, how much is actually readily drinkable? and what resources are required to convert that water that isn't?
and what about the land and resources needed for food and water, but for medicine, sanitation, recreation, etc?
please, take your life in kentucky as a baseline, how much of the earth's resources does it take to sustain a single human life of the quality you perceive as bearable? do you really think that such a life is realistically sustainable for the 6.7 billion people on earth now?
and during those cycles of warming and cooling of the earth you spoke of, how often and to what consequence have those climatic changes actually affected human life?
ok, my statistic still standing, and considering that the earth has a circumference of roughly 25 thousand miles, then i can just as easily, frame things by saying that there are enough people on earth to line up, one shoulder to the next, to circle the planet more than 50 times. whoa! golly, can you believe that?!
i'm sorry, but your thinking is faulty.
no matter how closely you can imagine crowding together all of mankind that doesn't really say anything about the earth's carrying capacity.
tell me, how much of that total land area of the earth is realistically habitable by humans, and how much land is actually available and suitable for producing enough food to comfortably support human life? and of all the water you point out that is available to us, how much is actually readily drinkable? and what resources are required to convert that water that isn't?
and what about the land and resources needed for food and water, but for medicine, sanitation, recreation, etc?
please, take your life in kentucky as a baseline, how much of the earth's resources does it take to sustain a single human life of the quality you perceive as bearable? do you really think that such a life is realistically sustainable for the 6.7 billion people on earth now?
and during those cycles of warming and cooling of the earth you spoke of, how often and to what consequence have those climatic changes actually affected human life?
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do you remember all the fun you had in your mom's belly before you were born? How can you call it crime? killing someone who wasn't yet born? lmao.
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Can you remember all the fun you had before you were 4 . So it means we can murder kids under 4
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sure, but i was already born before 4. so logically speaking a murder is valid if the victim was already born. How can you kill the unborn? ;-)
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are you saying that you think even late term abortions are ok? so, even if it were performed an hour before it were to come to term, it would still be just fine for you to abort? and if not, then when would be the latest in a pregnancy would it be ok for you to still have no moral qualms with aborting, and why?
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i agree with you in sense that im against that kind of thinking; we are talking today as people didnt had children in much worst circumstances then we are and they grow up in fine people; on other hand, having children always ask for some sacrifice - finantial or what ever, but what we gain from experience of having children not many people take in consideration and not many parents even notice and enjoy; im not a parent myself and i cant say what others should do - ive been around few children growing up, trying to help and enjoy reliving my own childhood, and i can say it is wonderfull no matter of "can i affored it" - kids are unbeliveble teachers to us "adults"; it seems to me that we tent to "play god" in that way
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It is obviously a personal choice, but one that can't be considered lightly... either to have a child, or to forgo parenthood altogether. You should be prepared to live with the consequences of your choices.
A child deserves support, and love, and security, unconditionally, and too many parents, especially young ones, are not prepared to give that. That is irresponsible in my view.
On the other hand, when you give of yourself as a parent, you are rewarded many times over by the experience... it changes how you view life, your tolerance of and patience with people, your acceptance of long-term goals over short-term gains, your sense of compassion, your humility, your maturity. I would not give up the experience of fatherhood for anything. That was my personal choice.
A child deserves support, and love, and security, unconditionally, and too many parents, especially young ones, are not prepared to give that. That is irresponsible in my view.
On the other hand, when you give of yourself as a parent, you are rewarded many times over by the experience... it changes how you view life, your tolerance of and patience with people, your acceptance of long-term goals over short-term gains, your sense of compassion, your humility, your maturity. I would not give up the experience of fatherhood for anything. That was my personal choice.
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I find it revealing that everyone who has responded so far to Olympia's original post has chosen to focus only on the individual's rights and choices and not on the larger, long-term threat to her country's (Russia, in her case) well-being from a rapidly declining population. The strategic truth is that Russia, with the largest land area of any country, has fewer and fewer people every year and is surrounded on many sides by country's (China, for example) with rapidly growing populations. Former President Putin perceived the strategic threat in this situation when he offered money to women to have additional children a few years ago. Apparently (from Olympia's post) his offer hasn't worked. The easy solution - offer free citizenship and free sessions to all CC users who enjoy chatting with all the lovely devocheki here! That will solve the demographic crisis!
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Hah! as if Russia doesn't already have enough single mothers.
No disrespect towards single mothers intended, in the least. I know many of them, in Russia and in USA.
I realize this is tongue-in-cheek, but it's not just sheer numbers that make a country's population strong.
No disrespect towards single mothers intended, in the least. I know many of them, in Russia and in USA.
I realize this is tongue-in-cheek, but it's not just sheer numbers that make a country's population strong.
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nope, having more people than another people is precisely what makes a population strong.
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Oh? poor countries, with stalling economies, overtaxed natural resources, corrupt governments... how does adding more people make these countries strong?
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how does it not? people in numbers represent basic power.. the greater their number, the greater the power a population collectively wields... the more economic import it has world-wide, the more people it has to fight for those natural resources.
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I cannot help but think that in a couple of generations time we will be wondering what we were thinking of when we tried to be so altruistic with the idea of population growth.
It has been shockingly been documented that over the last century there has been a declining number of men with nominal sperm counts and that the rise in hermaphrodite births has been increasing. It is suspected that modern living , pesticides, fertilizers, medicines, plastics even radio waves may be linked to this trend, though the jury is still out on that. However it does seem to be a trend that keeps on going.
So though I can see the moral aspects of choosing or not choosing to have children might be a dilemma for some, I do wonder at what point this will be a fond memory over the reality that procreation may not be a choice in the 22nd century.
Oh and another fact that may on the face of it seem great there are more girls being born than boys. Couple that together with less 'viable' men and you have to wonder what the future holds for us.
Sorry to be a sombre note in. Just one of those things that I think about from time to time.
TNTINUSSBTIGW
It has been shockingly been documented that over the last century there has been a declining number of men with nominal sperm counts and that the rise in hermaphrodite births has been increasing. It is suspected that modern living , pesticides, fertilizers, medicines, plastics even radio waves may be linked to this trend, though the jury is still out on that. However it does seem to be a trend that keeps on going.
So though I can see the moral aspects of choosing or not choosing to have children might be a dilemma for some, I do wonder at what point this will be a fond memory over the reality that procreation may not be a choice in the 22nd century.
Oh and another fact that may on the face of it seem great there are more girls being born than boys. Couple that together with less 'viable' men and you have to wonder what the future holds for us.
Sorry to be a sombre note in. Just one of those things that I think about from time to time.
TNTINUSSBTIGW
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It's no wonder, we kill nature day by day, that's what we get on return. We forgot we are part of that nature we destroy for a comfort life and we are killing ourselves as well. Babies with birth defects is increasing in great numbers too... We are not in the 50's or 60's anymore. We are living a the future ourselves created.
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In what way are we being altrusitic when it comes to population growth? Have you read some figures somewhere that suggest that people, generally, are so concerned about the fate of future generations that they are actually, willingly limiting the number of children they have now or foregoing having children altoghter?
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I totally agree with you.
For Russia it's incredibly important now to increase the number of population and actually we have all the resources to let us increase it. Alas, our modern official politics with its pseudo-care unfortunately leaves no chance for that. We still keep having lost people over born ones.
Also... Russia mostly always was and is the Christian country which implies that we should be letting God rule our lives, as well as how many children should be born. Traditionally it was like that until the human beings assumed they can decide everything and ignore God's Law... Keeping traditions though is what certainly makes a country quite successful, powerful and stable.
That could be said about any country. The higher level of moral values the majority of nation is having the stronger and longer living that nation is.
Generally, the more people are atheistic therefore the more they are egoistic...and an atheism only grows nowadays...Lot of people no longer take God and Faith seriously. This is why they think that:
Murdering unborn babies (abortion) is ok and is solving all their problems.
Murdering the first unborn baby buys the right for the second one to be born.
Sterilization would make their "making love" easier.
And on top is this nonsense:
Personally having no kids would help the overpopulated planet.
Haha...what a "great concern" about the world and what a stupid sacrifice if someone thinks that THIS would save the world!)
But such concern is nothing else but trying to veil own egoism and lack of love, because all children must be loved implicitly.
I wish people won't be naive and won't think that having no kids is always their own choice. Unless someone is unable, it is definitely the flood of propaganda to make us completely selfish...plus, the execution in so many ways of well-known plan for declining the population on earth. We should think deeper WHO is so interested to
make us such a choice. Our so called "freedom" is actually pretty limited. People think they choose but in fact they just follow common patterns. Thus, either choice we make, first lets check it properly each time before we think it is our own decision.
For Russia it's incredibly important now to increase the number of population and actually we have all the resources to let us increase it. Alas, our modern official politics with its pseudo-care unfortunately leaves no chance for that. We still keep having lost people over born ones.
Also... Russia mostly always was and is the Christian country which implies that we should be letting God rule our lives, as well as how many children should be born. Traditionally it was like that until the human beings assumed they can decide everything and ignore God's Law... Keeping traditions though is what certainly makes a country quite successful, powerful and stable.
That could be said about any country. The higher level of moral values the majority of nation is having the stronger and longer living that nation is.
Generally, the more people are atheistic therefore the more they are egoistic...and an atheism only grows nowadays...Lot of people no longer take God and Faith seriously. This is why they think that:
Murdering unborn babies (abortion) is ok and is solving all their problems.
Murdering the first unborn baby buys the right for the second one to be born.
Sterilization would make their "making love" easier.
And on top is this nonsense:
Personally having no kids would help the overpopulated planet.
Haha...what a "great concern" about the world and what a stupid sacrifice if someone thinks that THIS would save the world!)
But such concern is nothing else but trying to veil own egoism and lack of love, because all children must be loved implicitly.
I wish people won't be naive and won't think that having no kids is always their own choice. Unless someone is unable, it is definitely the flood of propaganda to make us completely selfish...plus, the execution in so many ways of well-known plan for declining the population on earth. We should think deeper WHO is so interested to
make us such a choice. Our so called "freedom" is actually pretty limited. People think they choose but in fact they just follow common patterns. Thus, either choice we make, first lets check it properly each time before we think it is our own decision.
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I'm an atheist and I assure you my morals are just as high, if not higher, than most religious people.
There is more I would have liked to have said but I'll leave it at that.
There is more I would have liked to have said but I'll leave it at that.
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Having as many kids as we could or "God" wishes is not going to solve any problem either. Many facts are involve, financial status being the biggest, people are more concious that kids need food, clothes, and education. Many of us grew up with limitations that made us suffer and feel the pain of frustration at a young age and we dont want that for our kids. Others feel their relationships are not matured enough to face "responsibilities" a kid implies. How many of us grew with parents fighting all the time? Do we want to repeat the story? Some of us decided to wait until we are fully prepared, others just gave up their dreams to be parents due to jobs that dont pay well enough to raise a family. Shall you have the maturity and resources ($$$) to feed your family and a great plan for their future, then a kid or 2 is not a problem. Go ahead have as many kids as your God wishes, but don't just throw your misconceptions of others' decisions.
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It was in the news today that United Nations estimates nearly a billion people in this world live day-to-day getting the bare amount of food necessary just to survive. With an increase in the population and an even greater strain on food production, how do you propose we feed everyone? Being Christian, I'm sure you're not so callous as to just let people starve to death, right?
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it was also stated in the same report,that there is more than enough food stock,even in this economically depressed time,to feed the whole of mankind.self-interest,apathy,greed prevent it,i guess.when people lose compassion for people do we deserve to be called mankind? :--)
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Yes, right!
And the rates of those who are hungriest are highest in the developing world where the birth rates are highest too.
I just don't understand how someond can call him/herself a Christian and laugh at and call egoists those who have the whole of mankind in their thoughts rather than just the fate of those who they just happen to share a country culture with.
Really, would Jesus approve?
And the rates of those who are hungriest are highest in the developing world where the birth rates are highest too.
I just don't understand how someond can call him/herself a Christian and laugh at and call egoists those who have the whole of mankind in their thoughts rather than just the fate of those who they just happen to share a country culture with.
Really, would Jesus approve?
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As Christian I am telling you that some people are starving to death because some others are too greedy and feel they don't have cut their luxury. The key definitely is not in the decreasing amount of population but in cutting greediness in some people. Until 90% of the world's wealth belongs to just 10% of the mankind we cannot feed everyone for sure. But they are not going at least to change their lifestyle or to give away their excess to the poorest ones, right? Also, some societies don't want to slow down their consumer itch and are not going to cut their over needs (which are not needs actually but the wrong idea that they are the elite of the world, and can use much more of resources than the rest of the world) we cannot have fair system where everyone can survive. And don't tell me such a system is impossible at all. Practically it is not "never-never" thing...but what is impossible is to change the mind of those who think they are somehow special ones and others are just slaves.
Wealth itself cannot make anyone better as well as it cannot make anyone better parent. Too many of monsters among the rich ones. To be good parent you don't need to be a millionaire. But what you definitely need is a rich soul full of love and your heart on the right place. After WWII most of people in Russia were poor but that didn't stop them having kids and giving them a chance to live and to build their own decent life. Let me remind that God created all people as equal beings and gives to everyone all the necessary to survive. Alike the sun is shining and warming for everyone. And no need to blame God for what people are choosing according to their spoilt nature. We were given the free will and this is what differs us from the animals. But this doesn't mean people are free to hurt each other in this or that way.
So, the question will be not solved until some part of the humanity realise they cannot take all their money with them after their physical death. There are only two ideas in the world: you believe that your soul is living endlessly and there is a life after death OR you believe that you were the monkey before you have transformed into the human being and you will just die some day and disappear forever like a dust. Everyone behaves according to one of these beliefs.
Wealth itself cannot make anyone better as well as it cannot make anyone better parent. Too many of monsters among the rich ones. To be good parent you don't need to be a millionaire. But what you definitely need is a rich soul full of love and your heart on the right place. After WWII most of people in Russia were poor but that didn't stop them having kids and giving them a chance to live and to build their own decent life. Let me remind that God created all people as equal beings and gives to everyone all the necessary to survive. Alike the sun is shining and warming for everyone. And no need to blame God for what people are choosing according to their spoilt nature. We were given the free will and this is what differs us from the animals. But this doesn't mean people are free to hurt each other in this or that way.
So, the question will be not solved until some part of the humanity realise they cannot take all their money with them after their physical death. There are only two ideas in the world: you believe that your soul is living endlessly and there is a life after death OR you believe that you were the monkey before you have transformed into the human being and you will just die some day and disappear forever like a dust. Everyone behaves according to one of these beliefs.
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So all that is needed to feed the hungry is first a fair and equitable global redistribution of all wealth?
I'm not going to say that that's an impossibility, but let's just suppose that that might take a little while to accomplish. What of the world's poor and undernourished is to be done until then?
And I'm curious, What if Russians began adopting babies from a country with a population growing too large? Your neighbor China, for instance. Would it matter at all to those concerned about Russia's shrinking population if a larger and larger percentage of future generations were not ethnic Russians, but Chinese instead?
I'm not going to say that that's an impossibility, but let's just suppose that that might take a little while to accomplish. What of the world's poor and undernourished is to be done until then?
And I'm curious, What if Russians began adopting babies from a country with a population growing too large? Your neighbor China, for instance. Would it matter at all to those concerned about Russia's shrinking population if a larger and larger percentage of future generations were not ethnic Russians, but Chinese instead?
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The planet Earth still is having enough of resources to provide an average level of life for everyone and will have...but IF to change the whole system. Don't you see that the system we have now IS totally crazy and totally wrong if there are someone who seriously thinking about extermination of the largest part of the mankind or stopping childbirth JUST because they need food and stuff? And then the next question, who is going to decide who deserves to live? Isn't it a proof that this system is absolutely insane? And how anyone can even think that this idea can save the world?
So... YES, redistribution of all world's wealth and making it work for the best future is the only way to save this world if we really are going to save it. But then those who rule the world should be totally honest, almost saint. Which I doubt would ever happen without having God in every heart.
As for the adopting Chinese children...I have an answer but I think your question is too provocative itself and I will not reply.
So... YES, redistribution of all world's wealth and making it work for the best future is the only way to save this world if we really are going to save it. But then those who rule the world should be totally honest, almost saint. Which I doubt would ever happen without having God in every heart.
As for the adopting Chinese children...I have an answer but I think your question is too provocative itself and I will not reply.
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Some people just dont want to see what we are living. I guess eyes that dont see... Roses are red and the sky is pink, LMAO!!!!!
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don't make fun....when the christian/communist new world order dawns we'll all be so much better off.
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I don't think anyone is really arguing that the world is perfect. Indeed, can't you imagine that a similar kind of craziness that you yourself speak of might actually affect the decision of others not to have children? Is it really selfish to choose not to have a child when you imagine that the future of the world will likely be even crazier?
Your hope for humanity to one day be able to look past self-interest and greed and start living with concern not for only ourselves, our families, our friends, or our country, but for all of mankind is very nice, I wish it could come true, but I'm sad to say that I tend to look at things a bit more pessimistically. It seems to me that human nature, no matter how initially well-intended, turns to acts of self-preservation at the expense of others when times get difficult. Sarcity of resources, whether brought about by selfish acumulation or by an actual limit on finite materials, will always be reason for craziness. It seems to me it will alwasy be reason for choosing who deserves to live and who's seen as expendable.
Your hope for humanity to one day be able to look past self-interest and greed and start living with concern not for only ourselves, our families, our friends, or our country, but for all of mankind is very nice, I wish it could come true, but I'm sad to say that I tend to look at things a bit more pessimistically. It seems to me that human nature, no matter how initially well-intended, turns to acts of self-preservation at the expense of others when times get difficult. Sarcity of resources, whether brought about by selfish acumulation or by an actual limit on finite materials, will always be reason for craziness. It seems to me it will alwasy be reason for choosing who deserves to live and who's seen as expendable.
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isn't it like that already? look at how many people have all the money in the world and look at how many people are living in poverty, no housing, and no food to eat tomorrow... there are the ones with ideals, the ones that help others, but not enough to balance an equal balance of life and the ones that think that everything is alright, they must be blind not to see what's going on...
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So what? Lets just watch what is going in the world and wait for the end? Lets not think, not talk, not fight back, not act, not giving birth and so on? Well, but that is exactly what those who lead this world to the end expect we would do!
Anyway...back to the topic...My last word is:
Basically, not having children doesn't make this world any better and less crazy. Either we have kids or not, we people must be cautious about who "makes the weather" in the world now...in other words, who stands behind any "trend", any "fashion" or any "project" and what are their real goals. We really must have our eyes and ears open these days.
Anyway...back to the topic...My last word is:
Basically, not having children doesn't make this world any better and less crazy. Either we have kids or not, we people must be cautious about who "makes the weather" in the world now...in other words, who stands behind any "trend", any "fashion" or any "project" and what are their real goals. We really must have our eyes and ears open these days.
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So what if your particular remedy for the world's ills is something that isn't agreeable to everyone? Do you really think it's realistic that everyone on the planet, of their own free will, can all come to together and agree on one single way to live their lives? To me, that seems very unlikely.
And it's one thing to decide not to have a child because you're afraid of the future that that child might face, but it's another thing entirely not to care about the people who are already here. For you to suggest that someone who chooses to be childless is necessarily apathetic or selfish is just not logically true. You don't fault Mother Teresa for not having had children, do you?
I appreciate your faith and the tenacity with which you seem determined to cling to your beliefs, I do. I can even appreciate your desire to have everyone believe just as you do too. I have to say though, if it really is your aim to sway the minds of others to your way of thinking, you might want to try to be more tactful and more patient and more forgiving of the reservations others might have at first in sacrificing their own world view before giving themselves completely to yours.
God bless.
And it's one thing to decide not to have a child because you're afraid of the future that that child might face, but it's another thing entirely not to care about the people who are already here. For you to suggest that someone who chooses to be childless is necessarily apathetic or selfish is just not logically true. You don't fault Mother Teresa for not having had children, do you?
I appreciate your faith and the tenacity with which you seem determined to cling to your beliefs, I do. I can even appreciate your desire to have everyone believe just as you do too. I have to say though, if it really is your aim to sway the minds of others to your way of thinking, you might want to try to be more tactful and more patient and more forgiving of the reservations others might have at first in sacrificing their own world view before giving themselves completely to yours.
God bless.
RE: choice or crime?
Oh sure, who am I to change the world or someone's mind...but you know what? At least I am not keeping silense about what I see is happening and is going to happen very soon, unlike many of others do prefer. And such a point of view is not my own only. Many other, far more intellectual and informed people think and say the same too...I don't force anyone to think exactly like me, I just say out what is known already long ago. All this everyone can find in Bible and in other even not religious sources if I am personally not that authoritative for anyone. And no need to try to make shame of me or call me tactless/impatient just because you think differently. As you can notice, I am not blaming you or anyone personally, am I?
To me it seems strange that you try to find what else to criticize me for, while the true is that we all, I mean ALL of us, are in the same boat...and doesn't matter what we argue here about when we all are in danger. The more we all together realise the fact of danger the better our chances to escape the catastrophe.
Olympiya's original subject was certainly the cause for me to discuss the whole problem much wider...why not?
To me it seems strange that you try to find what else to criticize me for, while the true is that we all, I mean ALL of us, are in the same boat...and doesn't matter what we argue here about when we all are in danger. The more we all together realise the fact of danger the better our chances to escape the catastrophe.
Olympiya's original subject was certainly the cause for me to discuss the whole problem much wider...why not?
RE: choice or crime?
Yes, you're certainly not keeping silent. But try your best to free yourself from the trappings of your own ego and from this defensiveness that you seem to be feeling and read again your first message to this thread. Let compassion be your guide and ask yourself what might be the consequence of the general tenor of that first message of yours on those who are not already of the same mind as you. Can you not see that it might very well cause the same kind of defensive and lead people to be much less responsive to what you think and what you believe? The further you go along in life, keep both your eyes and ears open to how people repsond to being mocked, to being called uncaring, to being laughed at, and to having their own beliefs be called nonsense. If you want your beliefs to be everyone's, how is such a way of dealing with people an effective means to that end?
And if God and the Bible are truly your touchstones in life, why would you appeal to others to look toward "intellectual and informed" people? Do you? Is God's word alone not good enough for you? I'm sure that I don't have to tell you that religion itself is something that the powerful and the wealthy have been known to demagogue and abuse in the aim of their own interests. To ask people to bow to the opinions of the informed and the intellectual, you might as well ask them to believe in global warming and the threat of overpopulation that the consensus of the scientific community say are very real dangers.
What seems both strange and regretful to me is that someone who seems so proudly to represent herself as Christian seems unaware of the hypocracy of the selfish nature invloved in chiding and judging others for anything, let alone judinge them for being egoistic themselves.
And yes, Olympiya's original message broached a subject you felt compelled to speak up on. Good for you. Don't you just wish though that you could have done so in a way that wouldn't have lead to where we are now? As much as I might agree with you on the sadness concerning the original subject, I have to say that I'm also now feeling a little sad to think that for me, as for you it seems, to let God into my heart, it would mean cultivating a sense of paranoia and mistrust towards anyone who hasn't. Or is it a part of your beliefs that those who do not already believe as you don't deserve any respect at all?
Again, I respect your decision to broaden the discussion, and truth be known, I'm actually kind of rooting for you to sway my opinion so that I might give up on the doom-sayers among mere men and give myself to and trust completely in God's will and His plan for everyone and everything. I'm actually envious of the kind of peace of mind that those who do actually say that they feel.
And if God and the Bible are truly your touchstones in life, why would you appeal to others to look toward "intellectual and informed" people? Do you? Is God's word alone not good enough for you? I'm sure that I don't have to tell you that religion itself is something that the powerful and the wealthy have been known to demagogue and abuse in the aim of their own interests. To ask people to bow to the opinions of the informed and the intellectual, you might as well ask them to believe in global warming and the threat of overpopulation that the consensus of the scientific community say are very real dangers.
What seems both strange and regretful to me is that someone who seems so proudly to represent herself as Christian seems unaware of the hypocracy of the selfish nature invloved in chiding and judging others for anything, let alone judinge them for being egoistic themselves.
And yes, Olympiya's original message broached a subject you felt compelled to speak up on. Good for you. Don't you just wish though that you could have done so in a way that wouldn't have lead to where we are now? As much as I might agree with you on the sadness concerning the original subject, I have to say that I'm also now feeling a little sad to think that for me, as for you it seems, to let God into my heart, it would mean cultivating a sense of paranoia and mistrust towards anyone who hasn't. Or is it a part of your beliefs that those who do not already believe as you don't deserve any respect at all?
Again, I respect your decision to broaden the discussion, and truth be known, I'm actually kind of rooting for you to sway my opinion so that I might give up on the doom-sayers among mere men and give myself to and trust completely in God's will and His plan for everyone and everything. I'm actually envious of the kind of peace of mind that those who do actually say that they feel.
RE: choice or crime? ~ Curious
I don't think it is a prerequisite that you have to believe in god, religion, aliens or anything else to see the difference between right and wrong. If you see a child in front of you who is starving while you have plenty do you need a god to make you feel less than human for not caring? The bottom line is we are all human and part of being human means we have a choice over our natures unlike wild animals. We can choose to believe in god. We can choose to believe there is no god. We can choose to believe we live in a bigger world that what is just outside our front door or we can live in our own fantasy world where none of our actions or our inaction affects anyone but ourselves.
I don't think Laughing Girl needs to convince you of anything. You already know the difference between right and wrong because you already have identified it as an injustice and something wrong with the world. The only thing you need to be convinced of is that you as a human among billions of other humans can make a difference if you really tried.
I have always found it fascinating when I look at the biographies of people who have 'changed' the world, be it Abe Lincoln, Marie Curie hell even Bill Gates if you want to go so far. The most remarkable thing about these peoples lives is that that were to all intents and purposes remarkably unremarkable. The did not come for privileged backgrounds, they were not born with superpowers, they did not wake up one day at the age of 12 and say "I'm going to change the world", hell half of them would not have believed you if you told them they would be world famous. But that is the difference between dreaming your dreams and chasing them.
Yes this thread has veered off a little bit but that is the whole point of discussion forums. It is about challenging ideas , sharing thoughts , putting forward different points of view.
Given a choice between Laughing Girl's world where people are nice to each other because it is right and they believe it is gods will, than a soulless one in which people only take and never give because they don't believe in consequences, I know which I would pick.
I get the impression that religion is only flawed when people themselves are flawed. The basic tenements of wouldn't it being nice to people for a change didn't really need some poor guy being nailed to a tree to be valid. It just .
It just is.
TNTKKLLYKILSM
I don't think Laughing Girl needs to convince you of anything. You already know the difference between right and wrong because you already have identified it as an injustice and something wrong with the world. The only thing you need to be convinced of is that you as a human among billions of other humans can make a difference if you really tried.
I have always found it fascinating when I look at the biographies of people who have 'changed' the world, be it Abe Lincoln, Marie Curie hell even Bill Gates if you want to go so far. The most remarkable thing about these peoples lives is that that were to all intents and purposes remarkably unremarkable. The did not come for privileged backgrounds, they were not born with superpowers, they did not wake up one day at the age of 12 and say "I'm going to change the world", hell half of them would not have believed you if you told them they would be world famous. But that is the difference between dreaming your dreams and chasing them.
Yes this thread has veered off a little bit but that is the whole point of discussion forums. It is about challenging ideas , sharing thoughts , putting forward different points of view.
Given a choice between Laughing Girl's world where people are nice to each other because it is right and they believe it is gods will, than a soulless one in which people only take and never give because they don't believe in consequences, I know which I would pick.
I get the impression that religion is only flawed when people themselves are flawed. The basic tenements of wouldn't it being nice to people for a change didn't really need some poor guy being nailed to a tree to be valid. It just .
It just is.
TNTKKLLYKILSM
RE: choice or crime? ~ Curious
Ahem.. of course what I >meant< to say was.
The basic tenements that the world would be a better place if people started being nice to each other for a change are true. It really didn't need some poor guy being nailed to a tree for that to be valid. It just is.
Hey ho.
TNTWAMMSTDCOTD
The basic tenements that the world would be a better place if people started being nice to each other for a change are true. It really didn't need some poor guy being nailed to a tree for that to be valid. It just is.
Hey ho.
TNTWAMMSTDCOTD
RE: choice or crime? ~ Curious
Yes, very true.
If life were only easy I don't think anyone of us would have any reason at all to treat anyone else in any other way but nicely.
If life were only easy I don't think anyone of us would have any reason at all to treat anyone else in any other way but nicely.
RE: choice or crime? ~ Curious
Yes, from what I think I understand of what you said, I don't disagree with you at all.
About the difference between dreaming your dreams and chasing them though, do you mean to say that those who actually affect profound change seem to do so out of some basic nature within themselves that they don't even necessarily recognize? That for them, maybe even having stopped to fully contemplate their actions or how important their efforts might one day be, actually may have been a hinderance and would have lessened what it was that each ultimately accomplished? Moral being that maybe living in too many high-minded thoughts of the "what if's" concerning the fate of the entire world are maybe doomed to limit the potential that we all have for bringing about positive change simply when small opportunites presents themselves to us each day in the here and now?
Given the same choice between Laughing Girl's world view or that of a completely soulless one I would no doubt choose the same as you. For however much a pessimist I may be though, I don't see people generally as being soulless and purely selfish. A world in which each and everyone of us were that way seems just as unlikely to me as Laughing Girl's. That choice between the two seems one that would never really present itself.
I think you're very right in pointing out that we perceive the condition of the world based only on our own perspectives. And moerso, I think that maybe we even necessarily subconsciously limit the scope of our persepctives to those areas wherein we actually feel we matter, wherein we feel we can contribute some good. I mean, to stop and think about all the suffering happening the world over at this very moment and then to realize what little each of us individually can do to stop it, that's not a very pleasant thing to do. And to be constantly mindful of that? That can't be emotionally healthy, can it? If you think about things that way, I guess it kind of seems understandable that more people aren't more concerned and willing to do more for the suffering of those so far from them.
Eh, Whatever your beliefs, it just seems to me that if someone exhibits any kind dispair at the state of the world, that it would be better to try your best to feel compassion for that person, to understand what you can of the perspective they are coming from, relate to them the best you can from their perspective, and then kindly present that person whatever reason for hope you might be able to offer. To do that rather than mock or scold or alientate in any way just seems ultimately the better way to deal with people. And for a Christian, a person whose religion is built on the tenets of compassion and love and forgiveness, that seems the only way to deal with people.
About the difference between dreaming your dreams and chasing them though, do you mean to say that those who actually affect profound change seem to do so out of some basic nature within themselves that they don't even necessarily recognize? That for them, maybe even having stopped to fully contemplate their actions or how important their efforts might one day be, actually may have been a hinderance and would have lessened what it was that each ultimately accomplished? Moral being that maybe living in too many high-minded thoughts of the "what if's" concerning the fate of the entire world are maybe doomed to limit the potential that we all have for bringing about positive change simply when small opportunites presents themselves to us each day in the here and now?
Given the same choice between Laughing Girl's world view or that of a completely soulless one I would no doubt choose the same as you. For however much a pessimist I may be though, I don't see people generally as being soulless and purely selfish. A world in which each and everyone of us were that way seems just as unlikely to me as Laughing Girl's. That choice between the two seems one that would never really present itself.
I think you're very right in pointing out that we perceive the condition of the world based only on our own perspectives. And moerso, I think that maybe we even necessarily subconsciously limit the scope of our persepctives to those areas wherein we actually feel we matter, wherein we feel we can contribute some good. I mean, to stop and think about all the suffering happening the world over at this very moment and then to realize what little each of us individually can do to stop it, that's not a very pleasant thing to do. And to be constantly mindful of that? That can't be emotionally healthy, can it? If you think about things that way, I guess it kind of seems understandable that more people aren't more concerned and willing to do more for the suffering of those so far from them.
Eh, Whatever your beliefs, it just seems to me that if someone exhibits any kind dispair at the state of the world, that it would be better to try your best to feel compassion for that person, to understand what you can of the perspective they are coming from, relate to them the best you can from their perspective, and then kindly present that person whatever reason for hope you might be able to offer. To do that rather than mock or scold or alientate in any way just seems ultimately the better way to deal with people. And for a Christian, a person whose religion is built on the tenets of compassion and love and forgiveness, that seems the only way to deal with people.
RE: HAPPY BDAY CASA!!
Yes, in spite of exam times, you deserve a great day, with lots of kisses from all your admirers on cam! :-)
RE: HAPPY BDAY CASA!!
thank u alot my friends :D better 1 day earlie than later?;)
RE: HAPPY BDAY CASA!!
Happy Birthday my dear... though it is still June 16 here... :))) We can celebrate both days, and eat more cake that way.
Wanker
I have long time pondered about this word "wanker". Being a long timer on CC i have heard this word used quite a lot and i also understand the meaning of which it is used in here.
But i have a plan, why not let HotForWords try to elaborate on this word - see what she may come up with.
So pls, a little support and we may get some focus from one of the greatest hotties out there...
But i have a plan, why not let HotForWords try to elaborate on this word - see what she may come up with.
So pls, a little support and we may get some focus from one of the greatest hotties out there...
RE: Wanker
wow, great idea, Marina at hot for words, quite possibly the sexiest girl on earth, and really i could almost imagine her as one of the girls here ;) now that would be a dream come true!!
Thanks
For making it clear that HotForWords is not a host on here (I can now give up searching) :P
I checked her out and she certainly is hot :)
I checked her out and she certainly is hot :)
RE: Wanker
I contacted her and posed the question :)
She replied and asked what my real name was :) :)
I replied, telling her my name :) :) :)
She replied again :) :) :) :)
She said 'That's best description of wanker' :(
I think she makes mistakes now and again?? :p
She replied and asked what my real name was :) :)
I replied, telling her my name :) :) :)
She replied again :) :) :) :)
She said 'That's best description of wanker' :(
I think she makes mistakes now and again?? :p
hey you
some of you here have some interesting stores, but I still do not believe what all you are saying, some of you like to brag, for those keep it up who knows it might pay off, some of you are quiet, I would like to get to know you. private message me or send me ccmail, lets hook up
RE: hey you
how is someone meant to "private message" u or "cc mail" u when u dont tell them ur screen name?
RE: hey you
no i wouldnt volunteer....unless u r the original poster in which cae i'll b the first in line and fight everyone else off :p
RE: hey you
An offer I have been waiting for my entire (CC) life. You sound really special, so "Let's hook up"!
/sarcasm OFF
/sarcasm OFF
RE: hey you
You mean you don't believe that there are only 3 hosts on this site that I have not had sex with :(
RE: hey you
dude ur freakin me out now...that drink we were gonna meet up for is now officially cancelled!!!!!
RE: Beautiful
Hmmm; I'm not sure it would be a polite or pleasant thing to do to mention any names. So I won't.
RE: Beautiful
Yes there are some very beautiful women on here who are as sexy as a 420 lb naked hairy man with a 2cm todger but like Delphi I think it is rude to mention names.
RE: Beautiful
lol, last time i had video with TMM during fall contest, she was wearing some very provocative clothes that made me look back and drool
RE: Beautiful
beauty is not always what you see from outside!! the real BEAUTY is from inside.....and i know you well enougth to say you are Beautifull Lady Dasha
RE: Beautiful
I find you very beautiful. Even when you think that you are "unsexy". You have a smile that can light up a room and its really adorable when you smile big and wrinkle your nose. You are very beautiful and never think that you aren't!
RE: Beautiful
In the first round, I was one who mentioned a beautiful girl about whom I added I was not sure you all find her sexy, because in my opinion beauty has an absolute value, it is a view from an aesthetic point of view, it can have even some absolute criteria (proportions, shapes, etc.)
I think being sexy is something more personal: for instance, somebody will find a girl with big breast and proeminent booty quite sexy while others will be aroused by a tiny slim girl with perky A cup tits. In this area, nature must be such that each girl looks sexy for some guys, and others for other guys. I don't think there is any suggestion one can make, unless "target" guys are well defined. Last example: a "mistress" in dungeon will appeal to would be "slaves", and she should appear as such, not as a sweet romantic girl!
I think being sexy is something more personal: for instance, somebody will find a girl with big breast and proeminent booty quite sexy while others will be aroused by a tiny slim girl with perky A cup tits. In this area, nature must be such that each girl looks sexy for some guys, and others for other guys. I don't think there is any suggestion one can make, unless "target" guys are well defined. Last example: a "mistress" in dungeon will appeal to would be "slaves", and she should appear as such, not as a sweet romantic girl!
RE: Beautiful
We are in a very intangible territory, what makes one sexy. I think to some extent it is experience itself which provides the clue. An attractive, but young, woman gives one a wink and it is just that: a wink from an attractive woman. A wink from a mature woman has an entirely different aura of sexuality about it. A younger woman pulling on her stockings knows instinctively (or theoretically) that it will no doubt be arousing to an observer. The more experienced woman knows at first hand (practically) the emotions she arouses: and this again instils her with a sexiness. The confidence and self-assuredness that comes with experience again enhances the sexiness: becoming familiar with one's effect on others, and exploiting it for mutual enjoyment. Is the patina which gives a sculpture beauty. Hope some of this makes sense, addressing the indefinable is never going to be very scientific.
RE: Beautiful
going after war is one thing, but why dont you leave that woman alone, she hasnt been her for 2 yrs for reasons we all know
RE: Beautiful
i said nothing bad about- i only sugessted to the OP who were the beauty of this site
RE: Beautiful
you know little man...........anon was right, hyo can come for me anytime and say whatever you want. leave the woman out of this in ur dislike of me.......she deserves that
RE: Beautiful
dont be so paranoic mate, here is not about you - it was just an opinion about a beautiful woman.
RE: Beautiful
meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
god people what happend to courage:); we all know "beauty is in the eye of beholder" thus, just say it - are you ashamed of your own taste or your own unperfections?!! should he/she refraze the question and ask - who is YOUR beauty-queen? (thought that goes without saying)
muahaaa to all
god people what happend to courage:); we all know "beauty is in the eye of beholder" thus, just say it - are you ashamed of your own taste or your own unperfections?!! should he/she refraze the question and ask - who is YOUR beauty-queen? (thought that goes without saying)
muahaaa to all
RE: Beautiful
ImSandra would you really like to read on this forum that people find you unattractive or not sexy ?
RE: Beautiful
well hun, this topic was about beauty not ugliness if i understood well?!! and why not? my traffic shows if im attractive to some man or not to others - as i said, noone can be attractive in everyones eyes - at least thats how i see it - so if someone thinks im not attractive or what ever negative about me, i wouldnt mind - its his/hers opinion; and as this topic is in question, i would like to read and see what man see as beauty of woman
muahaaa
muahaaa
Dilemma
I work as a toyboy and bring the bread and butter to the house, now my gf wants have freedom to date men but it is not fair in my opinion. My work is hard, what do u think guys should she be able doing it?
RE: Dilemma
Yeah , i think like you Akina, he will lose her one day if he let her date guys, a date is a special moment to seduce the other, even if the other guy has alot of defaults, he can appear better than you for a short moment and she can be seduced even if she will regret it later. Don t take this risk...Meoow
RE: Dilemma
Dating implies interest in a relationship, whether it be sexual, platonic or otherwise. Assuming your relationship with this person has been monogamous or agreeable permissive to this point, it would seem she has decided to move on in her life. Telling you , rather than simply abandoning you, may be an act of kindness or a ploy. It's never easy to know which. Ahh, but it really does not matter as it does appear your relationship with her has run it's course. While several scenarios may be in play here , none would seem to point toward the two of you being together much longer. Good luck and best wishes.
RE: Dilemma
What does working as a "toyboy" mean? Can someone explain? That might shed some light on why she wants to date other men.
RE: Dilemma
Its a non-commitment partner whom to share interests and certain activities together. Otften physically and it doesn’t influence a deep feeling at all.
Do you have a secret?
Do you have a secret that you are dying to share about someone here?
RE: Do you have a secret?
i have lots of secrets but i don't want to share them because they're about me & i prefer to be considered boring instead of pitied,scorned or ridiculed(more than i am now) :--)
RE: Do you have a secret?
secrets add mystery to an already mysterious girl....why would u want to let the secret out? would kinda make an already sexy (mysterious) girl seem rather boring....
RE: Do you have a secret?
It seems the question was whether or not we have a secret about someone here, rather than a secret in general. With that in mind I will tell you, without mentioning names, three. One is a host I know who is actually from a wealthy family and professes to be much younger than she is. Another is about a host who is married to two people on different continents with neither of her husbands knowing of the other. Lastly, there is a host who was born male, but is now completely female. And I will never tell their names..
RE: Do you have a secret?
I know 3 popular solo hosts who have done b/g or toy shows for exclusive clientel (me) not available to general public.
RE: Do you have a secret?
I have one fav host here, was in Friends and Family, now in Glamour. Everyone thinks she's Miss Goody Two Shoes, but in 121 sessions with me, she loves to flirt so much, she gets carried away and I see much and stay long!
RE: Do you have a secret?
I get online and i dig and dig and dig I have so many secrets i would start the the cold war all over if i revealed PP
just a thought
I think that people should be thoughtful about a ladies feelings before they post a comment in public. Thoughtless comments have no place in public I think.
RE: just a thought
thoughtless comments reflect more on those who make them & heed them,than those that are the subject :--)
RE: just a thought
Agreed. Politeness costs nothing so quite why people have to spit bile all the time is a mystery.
TNTNRHNRTJSNYS
TNTNRHNRTJSNYS
RE: just a thought
well, there are a (VERY) few girls on here that guys need to know about b4 they get into their rooms. 99% of the girls here are cool, ploite, friendly, wanna have some fun, wanna talk, wanna be someone......the other 1%.....?.....you decide for yourself why I posted this thread like this.....
Whatever happened to...
After the postings below, I got curious about whatever happened to LittleSonya? Surely some members or hosts must know this gem and what she's doing
RE: Fav Famous Women( ?? )
Has to be....Aishwarya Rai....everytime. And as runner-up (you'll probably need to google this if you are outside the UK) Anjali Jay.
RE: Fav Famous Women( ?? )
Wow. A definite case can be made for the first woman you mentioned. But you totally lost me on the second one. In other words I wouldn't be 100% comfortable with you setting me up on a blind date.
RE: Fav Famous Women( ?? )
Audrey Hepburn for sure, and if you check out TheCharming you will see her twin here at CC ;)
RE: Fav Famous Women( ?? )
Tisme did you mean Lily Savage as I can imagine "her" being right up yur street :P
RE: Fav Famous Women( ?? )
im not a male but im in love with Aishwarya Rai ..... Scarlett johansson ...AND ChARLIZE Theron ..........MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM ;)
RE: Fav Famous Women( ?? )
Well im not a guy but gimme Monica Bellucci anytime!!! When i see her im feeling gay lol))) Megan Fox too, but this one is more of a "dirty hot", while Monica is a classic beauty)
RE: Fav Famous Women( ?? )
Monika, u have the eyes of megan fox,
but ur tits are much much nicer than hers!
(believe me, i tasted them ;))
but ur tits are much much nicer than hers!
(believe me, i tasted them ;))
RE: Fav Famous Women( ?? )
Jennifer Ellison and Amanda Holden.
And I got you babe's first choice. Especially when she was in Bride and Prejudice.
Oh and If I'm allowed a porn actress - Shyla Stylez.
And I got you babe's first choice. Especially when she was in Bride and Prejudice.
Oh and If I'm allowed a porn actress - Shyla Stylez.
best star*
just thanks to CC, they are still waiting for us, regardess we had slight things in our life, maybe we leave here for some weeks, not available to log in. They don't block me. this is no has work-contract. All the time open for us. No-stress. there are lots of stressful job and heavy sort of work. But this is really good for visitor & giver both :) I really like here :P
etiquette
During a good manners and etiquette class, the teacher says to her students: "If you were courting a well educated young girl from a prominent family and during a dinner for two you needed to go to the Men's Room, what would you say to her?"
Mike replies:"Wait a minute. I'm going for a piss."
The teacher says: "That would be very rude and improper on your part."
Johnny replied: "I'm sorry I need to go to the toilet. I'll be back in a minute."
The teacher says: "That's much better but to mention the word 'toilet' during a meal, is unpleasant."
And Charlie says: "My dear, please excuse me for a moment. I have to go shake hands with a personal friend, whom, I hope, to be able to introduce to you after dinner."
The teacher passed out.
Mike replies:"Wait a minute. I'm going for a piss."
The teacher says: "That would be very rude and improper on your part."
Johnny replied: "I'm sorry I need to go to the toilet. I'll be back in a minute."
The teacher says: "That's much better but to mention the word 'toilet' during a meal, is unpleasant."
And Charlie says: "My dear, please excuse me for a moment. I have to go shake hands with a personal friend, whom, I hope, to be able to introduce to you after dinner."
The teacher passed out.
RE: how much is cc relations???...
I am sorry you trusted the wrong person. He who really loves a woman doesn't ask her to do what he asked you to do. He was selfish and took advantage of your feelings for him. I had a gf here, but it was the opposite of your case. I always paid all of our video sessions, but she would send her ym cam to other guys she calls "friends" and she continue to do it. She is always invisible sending her ym cam to the guys she likes. I never asked her for a show, paid or free, and she never did one for me. It was my decesion, but she never respected me and she never stopped flirting to other men. I am sorry to say it, but DJ only wanted "free shows" from you, and that's no gentleman. God knows how many other girls he did the same. I am glad you are over your pain. It's really hard to trust anyone here. Thing is that not only here, but there will always be the bad people taking advantage of others weakness. Keep loving, dont turn ur back on love, soon there will be someone who really values you.
RE: how much is cc relations???...
The answer is yes. I had a true relationship on here. It can, and does happen. :)
RE: how much is cc relations???...
*speechless* just a big sigh from here...
all I can say is that.... cheer up and smile :-)
Life's still beautiful after all, pains, hopes, love hatred and
everything are just spices of life, without it. I think Life would be very bitter. Think about it cheers girl ;) I guess we're both in pain but
still glad that my "guy" didn't lie to me... he always speak the truth, need further explanations??? ohh nooo... just leave it to me guys LOL (winks!) have a great weekend ALL
all I can say is that.... cheer up and smile :-)
Life's still beautiful after all, pains, hopes, love hatred and
everything are just spices of life, without it. I think Life would be very bitter. Think about it cheers girl ;) I guess we're both in pain but
still glad that my "guy" didn't lie to me... he always speak the truth, need further explanations??? ohh nooo... just leave it to me guys LOL (winks!) have a great weekend ALL
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"start a real relationship here, it does work ;)" Thanks to say it u make me feel better. I will try tonight to say her the love i feel, for her, for the way she smile, for her wonderfull eyes.......
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A relationship that grows over the weeks and months, that blossoms into something more than just chat and cam2cam. The other messenger outlets, the phone calls and the constant texting. The making plans to meet, and, possibly stay together.
Then the deep biting uncertainty and jealousy of knowing your host is with other members, gwawing deep in your guts until the wrong words are spoken and the dream is shattered.
There, from start to end, a potted version of true events.
Then the deep biting uncertainty and jealousy of knowing your host is with other members, gwawing deep in your guts until the wrong words are spoken and the dream is shattered.
There, from start to end, a potted version of true events.
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Sorry if that's your experience, but if people meet in person and fall in love, and it is for real...then naturally the girl will quit working as a host. And, if the man loves her, he will have to provide some support. There are real relationships, I'm sure, but if the girl keeps working and the guy keeps visiting other hosts....it is just a farse.
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Ahhh...I see there's been some offline talking. You are out of line...spreading line is NOT helping your business. I talked to her in the past, and thought her a friend; either I was wrong or you are lying.
Azterix
Azterix
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Akina, this was not intended for you, but you gave me good advice in the past and you are a very professional host and a genuinely nice person. I miss our conversations. I wasn't blaming the hosts, but you brought it up personal, which is OK. Hope you're doing well.
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Yes, I can see that. And I'm sure you always mean well. Some people don't, and they can burn in hell. Hugs and kisses, Stephen
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Wow....let me tell you first....I am not that much of a catch....so if Akina tried to steal me...good for her that she lost...Akina was a good friend to me when my GF was giving me the boot. That's the truth. We dont talk anymore, but I respect her a lot.
Azterix (Stephen)
Azterix (Stephen)
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waaa you must be a rich men that akina want to steal you az :) in fairness hope i can steal you too az lol:P
my best wishes to everybody here and to everyone who 's already happy in thier partners. i dont wanna fall w/ anybody online i learnd my lesson so ciao to all " stop in the name of love"
kiss to you az
my best wishes to everybody here and to everyone who 's already happy in thier partners. i dont wanna fall w/ anybody online i learnd my lesson so ciao to all " stop in the name of love"
kiss to you az
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you still my naugty girl Akina who ever go in ur vid or not
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Az that can't be you?!?!i could never imagine you spelling farce incorrectly :--)
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T'isme, tisme... ;) My first post in cc for as long as I can remember.
Forgive my misspellings, I was upset when I posted that.
Forgive my misspellings, I was upset when I posted that.
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Frankly I really hope u are wrong, I really like if it will happens to me she is so kind, sweet and cute I want to fight for this relationship to be the most beautiful and longest possible.
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if you have to fight for it your doomed,but if you have to work at it then hope is eternal :--)
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The moral of the story is - if you don't meet and spend some time togethor for real then it is just fantasy, people take it seriously but they shouldn't. If a guy can't be bothered to get on a plane to see you then he isn't serious.
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Yes, but "If a guy can't be bothered to get on a plane to see you then he isn't serious" The girl needs to make him feel special, for him to want to expend the emotional energy to get on that airplane. It's the little things she can do, surprise sms, wanting him to call etc. If not that, then no getting on an airplane!
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i cam here looking for friends because i lost a huge part of my life that i can't seem to find anymore. It's lonely when you loss that one person who your heart speaks to, then one day she is gone, and gone not because she wanted to leave, gone because god felt she was to good to be here on this earth. there are a lot of girls who have made the lonelyness subside. there are the few that have offered a element of pleasure. there are a few that have offered an element of passion. then there are the special ones who offer a friendship, even though the friendship is miles and miles apart from each other. You accept what you can, offer the same in return and maybe, just maybe, the future will hold something special if the person {host} you talk to, and you, make a connection. if it is ment to be, it will happen, just don't push it....and keep reality in check.
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Twocats,
If I read your post correctly, I am sorry about your loss. And there is nothing wrong in seeking friendship, sex, companionship here. Just keep in mind that you are paying by the minute. Nothing wrong with that, as long as you are aware of that fact.
There are good people here, and people who will eat you up...sometimes slowly. So enjoy your relationships here, I think cc is a good thing...but like you said...keep it realistic.
Best of wishes,
Azterix (Stephen)
If I read your post correctly, I am sorry about your loss. And there is nothing wrong in seeking friendship, sex, companionship here. Just keep in mind that you are paying by the minute. Nothing wrong with that, as long as you are aware of that fact.
There are good people here, and people who will eat you up...sometimes slowly. So enjoy your relationships here, I think cc is a good thing...but like you said...keep it realistic.
Best of wishes,
Azterix (Stephen)
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Hi Domino, yes I still have a number of good relationships from CC, 2 left some time ago but we chat all the time, one I met twice. Let down by another I thought was a true friend but I have just have to write it off to experience - win some, lose some. kisses to you
Buzzcut girls
I've looked around but can't find any girls like this. Are there any girls on the site with buzzcuts? Or shorter?
think about it....
Okay! Okay! Okay!
Enough for the "Love thingy" and cheat thingy...
why can't we just sit back and relax for a short while???
Let's give ourselves a little break for all these....
Let's all MOVED ON.... ALL TOGETHER LOL
Life is so short to cry in our corner, let's face it!
that's how life is all about after all YEAH???
so, think about it.... it's not yet too late to start a new.
Enough for the "Love thingy" and cheat thingy...
why can't we just sit back and relax for a short while???
Let's give ourselves a little break for all these....
Let's all MOVED ON.... ALL TOGETHER LOL
Life is so short to cry in our corner, let's face it!
that's how life is all about after all YEAH???
so, think about it.... it's not yet too late to start a new.
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LOL - Arghhh been hiding in my corner and yah caught me????
Hmmm.... I supposed to hide better next time :-P
love yah too Bea, thanks for being there for me "always!" you're superb
Hmmm.... I supposed to hide better next time :-P
love yah too Bea, thanks for being there for me "always!" you're superb
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LOL sissy I'm not speaking to myself but in general :-D read again spank yah butt hehe... hey! I'm Ok don't worry bout me, I'm no dying yet LOL - thanks for ur concern anyway, but I'm Ok really :-)