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Top Ten Statements of George W. Bush !
"Will the highways on the Internet become more few?" January 29, 2000
(As opposed to less many?)
9) "The legislature's job is to write law. It's the executive branch's job to interpret law." November 22, 2000
(Talk about an efficient government, George W. has eliminated the duties of the appellate court in a single speech.)
8) "The most important job is not to be governor, or first lady in my case." January 30, 2000
(Does George W. have plans he is not telling us?)
7) "I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family." January 27, 2000
(Specially, when they won't stand still...)
6) "The government is not the surplus's money." November 5, 2000
(Obviously, English is not the president's language.)
5) "I am a person who recognizes the fallacy of humans." September 19, 2000
(And, just when I thought I was real.)
4) "Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?" January 11, 2000
(Most people's grammar is simply too good to ask that question.)
3) "Our priorities is our faith." October 10, 2000
(Obviously, grammar is not.)
2) "The best way to relieve families from time is to let them keep some of their own money." September 13, 2000
(So tax cuts are designed to reduce our life span?)
1) "I mean, there needs to be a wholesale effort against racial profiling, which is illiterate children." October 11, 2000
(George W. is the first president to recognize the connection between racial profiling and the ability to read!)
Top Ten Statements of George W. Bush !
"Will the highways on the Internet become more few?" January 29, 2000
(As opposed to less many?)
9) "The legislature's job is to write law. It's the executive branch's job to interpret law." November 22, 2000
(Talk about an efficient government, George W. has eliminated the duties of the appellate court in a single speech.)
8) "The most important job is not to be governor, or first lady in my case." January 30, 2000
(Does George W. have plans he is not telling us?)
7) "I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family." January 27, 2000
(Specially, when they won't stand still...)
6) "The government is not the surplus's money." November 5, 2000
(Obviously, English is not the president's language.)
5) "I am a person who recognizes the fallacy of humans." September 19, 2000
(And, just when I thought I was real.)
4) "Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?" January 11, 2000
(Most people's grammar is simply too good to ask that question.)
3) "Our priorities is our faith." October 10, 2000
(Obviously, grammar is not.)
2) "The best way to relieve families from time is to let them keep some of their own money." September 13, 2000
(So tax cuts are designed to reduce our life span?)
1) "I mean, there needs to be a wholesale effort against racial profiling, which is illiterate children." October 11, 2000
(George W. is the first president to recognize the connection between racial profiling and the ability to read!)
question
What Kind of Farter Are You ?
Vain: You love the smell of your own farts.
Amiable: You love the smell of other people’s farts.
Proud: You think your farts are exceptionally fine.
Shy: You release silent farts and then blush.
Impudent: You boldly fart out loud and then laugh.
Unfortunate: You try really hard to fart, but you poop instead.
Scientific: You fart regularly but you’re concerned about pollution.
Nervous: You stop in the middle of your fart.
Honest: You admit that you farted but offer good medical reasons.
Dishonest: You far and then blame the dog.
Foolish: You suppress your farts for hours.
Thrifty: You always keep a couple of good farts in reserve.
Anti-Social: When the need arises, you excuse yourself from the room and fart in private.
Strategic: You fart and then conceal it with loud coughing.
Sharing: You fart in bed and then pull the cover up over your partner’s head.
Intellectual: You can determine from the smell of any fart exactly what food item had been consumed.
Athletic: You fart at the slightest exertion.
Miserable: You would love to let one out, but you are unable to fart.
Sensitive: You fart and then start crying.
Vain: You love the smell of your own farts.
Amiable: You love the smell of other people’s farts.
Proud: You think your farts are exceptionally fine.
Shy: You release silent farts and then blush.
Impudent: You boldly fart out loud and then laugh.
Unfortunate: You try really hard to fart, but you poop instead.
Scientific: You fart regularly but you’re concerned about pollution.
Nervous: You stop in the middle of your fart.
Honest: You admit that you farted but offer good medical reasons.
Dishonest: You far and then blame the dog.
Foolish: You suppress your farts for hours.
Thrifty: You always keep a couple of good farts in reserve.
Anti-Social: When the need arises, you excuse yourself from the room and fart in private.
Strategic: You fart and then conceal it with loud coughing.
Sharing: You fart in bed and then pull the cover up over your partner’s head.
Intellectual: You can determine from the smell of any fart exactly what food item had been consumed.
Athletic: You fart at the slightest exertion.
Miserable: You would love to let one out, but you are unable to fart.
Sensitive: You fart and then start crying.
IT IS A BIG DEAL!!!
I am "member" that you went back and forth with a few threads below regarding epassporte. The thread that discusses all of the problems with the guy running epassporte (the one where I posted the update) is EXACTLY why I was EXTREMELY upset with the idea of sending all of my personal information to people that I did not know. At the time, the customer service agents claimed that they destroy the information after they get it, but who knows? I can only hope that one day the information I sent won't be used against me.
Maybe I made a stupid choice when I gave up my personal info just to get back a few hundred bucks. There is no use my sitting around worrying about it, but anytime anyone asks for personal information, people should be on their highest level of alert and make sure not just that the reasons for the request are legitimate, but that the person stating those reasons is legitimate as well.
Maybe I made a stupid choice when I gave up my personal info just to get back a few hundred bucks. There is no use my sitting around worrying about it, but anytime anyone asks for personal information, people should be on their highest level of alert and make sure not just that the reasons for the request are legitimate, but that the person stating those reasons is legitimate as well.
RE: IT IS A BIG DEAL!!!
I assume you mean the thread headed epassporte update. Almost everything on this seems to be speculation. The only verifiable point is that he sued Mastercard and was apparently involved in a company that went bankrupt.
BTW you did not answer my question about when the account was frozen and you were required to submit the personal information. I have a theory about what happened but it depends on the time.
BTW you did not answer my question about when the account was frozen and you were required to submit the personal information. I have a theory about what happened but it depends on the time.
RE: IT IS A BIG DEAL!!!
Speculation or not, this guy in charge seems suspect. Obviously, anyone within an organization could steal personal information, but it makes me a lot more uncomfortable when the head of the organization is the one that is suspect and when I am not dealing what is clearly a legitimate entity such as a highly regulated bank or a government agency. (Well, one hopes that these are legitimate, lol.)
If something like my bank asks for id and all of that type of information when I open an account, or my employer when I get a new job, I know that they are following the law. When somebody else does, it makes me highly concerned, and it is a very, very big deal for me. (I think that epassporte might be incorporated outside the USA by the way which made me even more suspicious, or at least that was my thinking at the time.) Unlike what you described as your situation, nobody's account was compromised. Some mysterious red flag was triggered by their system, and they wouldn't tell me what it was other than that maybe the recipient withdrew money too fast. (I still don't get that, lol.) The only thing I knew is what I said, namely that if I wanted the money unfrozen, I had to give them the information. My only other option was to lose the money. I think that a business such as my bank would have given me a lot more information and been a lot more cooperative, plus, I would have had a lot more legal options at my disposal as epassporte customers are finding out right now.
I tried answering a few days ago, but I guess I said something CC didn't want to post. I will answer your questions without too much detail to increase the chances of your post.
The first time I had an issue (the one where the money was frozen), was probably over 4 years ago. The second time I had an issue was in fact February/March of last year, but it was not as big of a problem. They made me reverify everything by sending all of my personal information once again. After my initial post, I remembered that I did open a new account since my old one had expired so that could have been part of it. I think there excuse was something about verifying information with my bank (which is still a very major bank in the USA despite the crisis). The second time I did have a choice since no money had been loaded yet, but I figured that they already had my information so thought I had less to lose.
Did something happen last year that made you ask that question? Were banks being less cooperative in terms of allowing epassporte to see there was no fraud involving the credit card I was loading money from?
If something like my bank asks for id and all of that type of information when I open an account, or my employer when I get a new job, I know that they are following the law. When somebody else does, it makes me highly concerned, and it is a very, very big deal for me. (I think that epassporte might be incorporated outside the USA by the way which made me even more suspicious, or at least that was my thinking at the time.) Unlike what you described as your situation, nobody's account was compromised. Some mysterious red flag was triggered by their system, and they wouldn't tell me what it was other than that maybe the recipient withdrew money too fast. (I still don't get that, lol.) The only thing I knew is what I said, namely that if I wanted the money unfrozen, I had to give them the information. My only other option was to lose the money. I think that a business such as my bank would have given me a lot more information and been a lot more cooperative, plus, I would have had a lot more legal options at my disposal as epassporte customers are finding out right now.
I tried answering a few days ago, but I guess I said something CC didn't want to post. I will answer your questions without too much detail to increase the chances of your post.
The first time I had an issue (the one where the money was frozen), was probably over 4 years ago. The second time I had an issue was in fact February/March of last year, but it was not as big of a problem. They made me reverify everything by sending all of my personal information once again. After my initial post, I remembered that I did open a new account since my old one had expired so that could have been part of it. I think there excuse was something about verifying information with my bank (which is still a very major bank in the USA despite the crisis). The second time I did have a choice since no money had been loaded yet, but I figured that they already had my information so thought I had less to lose.
Did something happen last year that made you ask that question? Were banks being less cooperative in terms of allowing epassporte to see there was no fraud involving the credit card I was loading money from?
RE: IT IS A BIG DEAL!!!
Something did indeed happen around February-March last year. On 18th February EPasspoerte sent a message vis their message center saying they now needed additional account verification. The verification they required was the documents you had to submit. They said that if this was not submitted within 30 days the account would be blocked. They sent a reminder on March 1st. I was initially not happy about being asked to provide this information and asked for details why it was required. After several EMails I was satisfied with the explanation and provided the information. When I remembered this I wondered if you had been checking your epassporte messages around that time or whether it was possible you and/or the recipoent had received a similar message which you had missed and the 30 day time limit came up around the time you sent the money. You may still consider the information request unreasonable but at least the message gave 30 days notice so that there was time to clear the account if the holder did not wish to comply.
RE: IT IS A BIG DEAL!!!
using the name another member, but why are members giving epassporte information?
Friendship
I guess is normal to exist a sort of professional rivalry between hosts...
And still ....I look at hosts forum and I see how much some of them try to help the others ( even with a small advice or share a similar experience or things like that ) and I know that many hosts here are freinds ( and i mean friends ) even in real life ...
And on the other hand I look at members forum ( which as some of them use to say , is to help eachother to pick the good hosts and to avoid the bad ones -whatever bad or good would mean to them-) and i see how men stays men:dirty jokes just like that or jokes regarding some's suggestions ,laughing of eachother and so on.
And i wonder any member here have any kind of friendship with another member ?
Because in this ecuation called CC usually the guys are the good ones ( ''poor'' guys searching fun or company are stoled by cold hearted girs that are thinking only at money) ,while everyting i saw by now prooved me somehow that the girs ,so the hosts, are the most human ones .
And still ....I look at hosts forum and I see how much some of them try to help the others ( even with a small advice or share a similar experience or things like that ) and I know that many hosts here are freinds ( and i mean friends ) even in real life ...
And on the other hand I look at members forum ( which as some of them use to say , is to help eachother to pick the good hosts and to avoid the bad ones -whatever bad or good would mean to them-) and i see how men stays men:dirty jokes just like that or jokes regarding some's suggestions ,laughing of eachother and so on.
And i wonder any member here have any kind of friendship with another member ?
Because in this ecuation called CC usually the guys are the good ones ( ''poor'' guys searching fun or company are stoled by cold hearted girs that are thinking only at money) ,while everyting i saw by now prooved me somehow that the girs ,so the hosts, are the most human ones .
RE: Friendship
Jeena, I'm not really sure what you mean by the "good" ones, or the "most human" ones. Partly it has to do with the difference between friendships between men and those between women.
But really, "friendship" between members is not much encouraged here. Posters, both members and hosts, choose to remain anonymous for the most part, and many members seem to have an agenda. And also there are not of lot of chances for members to interact, outside of community chat (which I avoid). During the time I've been online, I've exchanged cc mail with another member exactly once (and yes, hdb is an active account).
On other sites, with free chat rooms, it is possible to get to know other members. If we're not exactly friends, at least we can be acquaintances. Here on CC my friends are hosts.
But really, "friendship" between members is not much encouraged here. Posters, both members and hosts, choose to remain anonymous for the most part, and many members seem to have an agenda. And also there are not of lot of chances for members to interact, outside of community chat (which I avoid). During the time I've been online, I've exchanged cc mail with another member exactly once (and yes, hdb is an active account).
On other sites, with free chat rooms, it is possible to get to know other members. If we're not exactly friends, at least we can be acquaintances. Here on CC my friends are hosts.
RE: Friendship
But really, "friendship" between members is not much encouraged here. The site exists to make money buy having men pay to see girls naked, not make friends with other male viewers.
But this forum is much much better than another I go to which is NOT free and site moderators patrol it like SS guards at a WW2 prison camp
But this forum is much much better than another I go to which is NOT free and site moderators patrol it like SS guards at a WW2 prison camp
RE: Friendship
The only way that members can interact with each other is in the forums and also in Community Chat. Over the years there were a few guys in Comm Chat that I joked with and exchanged info on hosts but to say we were friends is a stretch. We share a common bond in that we are interested in hot young girls and self abuse...beyond that ..not much.
RE: Friendship
As Groucho Mark said: I would never join a club that would have me as a member!
RE: Friendship
Even though members may not form strong friendships here, there is also a difference in friendship between men and women to consider. I honestly think that friendships between two men can endure much more than that between two women just from my experiences. Two men can be friends, then get into the biggest fight, argument or disagreement ever today, then tomorrow they will be out drinking or playing sports together like nothing ever happened. Two women get into a huge fight or disagreement and they usually never speak to each other again. Also men show mutual affection through joking, and teasing each other, which between women seems to drive them apart. It is very difficult to compare how friendships between men and between women work because we are so very different.
Why do glam hosts have so much time to post in here?
I never see any hosts from Instant Action post here. Is it because they are always busy? Making lots of $ ?
RE: Why do glam hosts have so much time to post in here?
people have the right to post their comments, and it was worthy enough to get you guys to all comment on it....
RE: Why do glam hosts have so much time to post in here?
I thought it was a great post, this coming from me, a guest and freeloader who isn't a member and can only chat in text with non-adult hosts. I just wish I could post in the viewers section :-P I post a lot here.
RE: Why do glam hosts have so much time to post in here?
Hardly the stupidest post ever on this board. I've routinely made stupider posts than that.
RE: Why do glam hosts have so much time to post in here?
most hosts in instant action(not all) also working on others sites also.and as we all know there r hardcore sites mostly. so instant action host probably busy in free video chats. and mybe even dont know about forum:P
RE: Why do glam hosts have so much time to post in here?
Ummm..maybe because they can speak a good English ? I know many hosts who pick instant action category only because they have no chance to keep a viewer in their video unless they start stripping as soon as he arrives...because they hardly manage to maintain a decent conversation.So i bet it's not only a matter of time, but also languages and conversation skills.Just my 2 cents, cheers.
RE: Why do glam hosts have so much time to post in here?
I used to think that, but have found many that speak English very well in IA. And form time to time come across one in Glamour that has marginal English skills. But I do know and have across many hosts on other cams sites that speak English very well, some are form the UK and US and even one that from China living in Canada and has a PHD in English LIt. There are girls that are true exibitionists, but the only ones on this site are in IA. The rest here strip reluctently and only when they really feel they need to keep the client in paid video. Given the choice they would much rather just sit and talk.
RE: Why do glam hosts have so much time to post in here?
Twas not the membership that put you all in categories. That was Camcontacts. But I would make a suggestion they change Glamour Girls to just Divas.
RE: Why do glam hosts have so much time to post in here?
"I personally think his intention was to make another nasty comment to Glam Hosts because they don't strip the minute he comes to video"
No in most cases they don't strip at all. Not in 121 and not even after hours in pvt.
No in most cases they don't strip at all. Not in 121 and not even after hours in pvt.
RE: Why do glam hosts have so much time to post in here?
many girls do strip in glam too :) just gotta find them
epassporte update
source: http://news.avn.com/articles/Visa-Issues-Statement-on-Suspended-ePassporte-Accounts-411375.html
Visa Issues Statement on Suspended ePassporte Accounts
Visa says network access only is blocked; cardholders can access account funds through St. Kitts bank or ePassporte
By Tom Hymes
Sep 7th, 2010 02:46 PM
SANTA MONICA, Calif.—Visa has issued a statement regarding the suspension late last week of the ePassporte Visa program operated through St. Kitts-Nevis-Anguilla National Bank Ltd., according to Brian Krebs, who operates the KrebsonSecurity.com blog.
Krebs reported receiving the announcement at about 10 a.m. PT. It read:
“At the request of St. Kitts-Nevis-Anguilla National Bank (SKNA), on September 2, 2010, Visa blocked network access for prepaid cards issued by SKNA and operated by ePassporte.com to address certain program deficiencies. ePassporte.com is a third-party agent that works with SKNA.
“It is important to note that impacted SKNA prepaid cardholders are still able to access their funds through SKNA or SKNA’s agent, ePassporte.com. For more information cardholders should contact SKNA or ePassporte.com.
“Visa is committed to maintaining the integrity of its global payment network and routinely conducts due diligence to ensure Visa prepaid programs adhere to the company’s stringent program requirements and controls.”
The Visa announcement seems to say that all SKNA-ePassporte Visa funds are available to account holders, and not just those in the ePassporte e-Wallet program, as was communicated by ePassporte CEO Chris Mallick late Thursday in his only statement thus far on the situation.
You can get additional information at: http://www.bankinfosecurity.com/articles.php?art_id=2900
Alsog, go to Google. Click "news" at the top, and just search "epassporte".
Maybe things are looking better. The second link seemed interesting too so just copy and paste it in your web browsser.
I still would permanently switch to bank transfer. This is a contantly changing area in terms of regulation and next time, things could be worse. And epassporte isn't exactly easy to deal with. But the choice is yours....
Fool me once, shame on you.... Fool me twice, I don't think so!!! :p
Visa Issues Statement on Suspended ePassporte Accounts
Visa says network access only is blocked; cardholders can access account funds through St. Kitts bank or ePassporte
By Tom Hymes
Sep 7th, 2010 02:46 PM
SANTA MONICA, Calif.—Visa has issued a statement regarding the suspension late last week of the ePassporte Visa program operated through St. Kitts-Nevis-Anguilla National Bank Ltd., according to Brian Krebs, who operates the KrebsonSecurity.com blog.
Krebs reported receiving the announcement at about 10 a.m. PT. It read:
“At the request of St. Kitts-Nevis-Anguilla National Bank (SKNA), on September 2, 2010, Visa blocked network access for prepaid cards issued by SKNA and operated by ePassporte.com to address certain program deficiencies. ePassporte.com is a third-party agent that works with SKNA.
“It is important to note that impacted SKNA prepaid cardholders are still able to access their funds through SKNA or SKNA’s agent, ePassporte.com. For more information cardholders should contact SKNA or ePassporte.com.
“Visa is committed to maintaining the integrity of its global payment network and routinely conducts due diligence to ensure Visa prepaid programs adhere to the company’s stringent program requirements and controls.”
The Visa announcement seems to say that all SKNA-ePassporte Visa funds are available to account holders, and not just those in the ePassporte e-Wallet program, as was communicated by ePassporte CEO Chris Mallick late Thursday in his only statement thus far on the situation.
You can get additional information at: http://www.bankinfosecurity.com/articles.php?art_id=2900
Alsog, go to Google. Click "news" at the top, and just search "epassporte".
Maybe things are looking better. The second link seemed interesting too so just copy and paste it in your web browsser.
I still would permanently switch to bank transfer. This is a contantly changing area in terms of regulation and next time, things could be worse. And epassporte isn't exactly easy to deal with. But the choice is yours....
Fool me once, shame on you.... Fool me twice, I don't think so!!! :p
RE: epassporte update
He'll (epassporte owner) will make his money on his new
movie "Middle Men" which is about the industry he created epassporte to web cam girls.
movie "Middle Men" which is about the industry he created epassporte to web cam girls.
RE: epassporte update
Epassporte has been a third party for money transactions to many industries and cam sites are just a portion of that. Apparently you
didn't even watch the Trailer to the movie.
didn't even watch the Trailer to the movie.
RE: epassporte update
I watched the trailers AND the movie. If you have any doubts, just Google epassporte Middle Men and you'll find things like "epassporte accounts tied to several shady affiliate programs, such as those used to reward people who promote rogue anti-virus products and online pharmacy sites"... but apparently Mr. Mellick's movie should benefit from all the publicity
RE: epassporte update
It is obvious that Christopher Mallick sold out all us that are holding accounts with epassporte so that he could capitalize on another fortune by producing the movie "Middle Men". It exposed such controversial actions and affiliations that Visa did not want to be connected in anyway. I am sure that it wasn't very difficult to find many reasons for dropping his account with the bank. In the mean time while he and the bank are trying to figure how to replace Visa and continue business as epassporte they are making an incredible amount of interest of the multi-millions that are held in those accounts. They are NOT seeking ways to distribute it in a timely manner and quite honestly don't care if others are hurting because of it. It's all about them making money and retaining their business. Both the bank and epassporte would go through extreme financial hardship to allow transfer of account holder funds immediately. We are talking a very small bank that obviously saw the potential for extreme deposits. I am sure there are government agencies that have laws against withholding depositors money for any period of time. I hope that someone takes that action soon.
Also in my opinion anyone that considers doing future business with epassporte is putting themselves at great risk when he loses all the other depositors money!!
If he had not made the movie, non of this would have happened!!
Also in my opinion anyone that considers doing future business with epassporte is putting themselves at great risk when he loses all the other depositors money!!
If he had not made the movie, non of this would have happened!!
RE: epassporte update
My projection is that if he can Mastercard to work with him then he will turn around and make everyone who holds a Visa card with epassporte to purchase the new Mastercard in order to get their funds out. Of course he'll charge another $35 at least so that cardholders have an investment and won't leave epassporte. He's hoping for this to happen with another international card holder service or he's done. I'm sure he won't issue any credit for the $40 that account holders have already paid for Visa. He is a greedy Bas__d
RE: epassporte update
For those who still cant see the real cause for this, you should read this phrase and think about what it says:
At the request of St. Kitts-Nevis-Anguilla National Bank (SKNA), on September 2, 2010, Visa blocked network access for prepaid cards issued by SKNA and operated by ePassporte.com"
At the request of... so its not Visa who cause this, or started this.. it was ePassporte's local bank who asked visa to do this, and most obviously the reason for this was that there was not money in ePassporte's account.. you can figure out where this money gone?
And as you can see, there was no reason for epassporte to block ability to withdraw money from epassporte visa accounts, or to send this money to someone else who can withdraw it, or transfer it back to sender... this all was just bullshit that Malick feed to us.
At the request of St. Kitts-Nevis-Anguilla National Bank (SKNA), on September 2, 2010, Visa blocked network access for prepaid cards issued by SKNA and operated by ePassporte.com"
At the request of... so its not Visa who cause this, or started this.. it was ePassporte's local bank who asked visa to do this, and most obviously the reason for this was that there was not money in ePassporte's account.. you can figure out where this money gone?
And as you can see, there was no reason for epassporte to block ability to withdraw money from epassporte visa accounts, or to send this money to someone else who can withdraw it, or transfer it back to sender... this all was just bullshit that Malick feed to us.
RE: epassporte update
I think that the money is there....the bank works under federal guidelines in handling the funds. He and the bank just wants to find an alternate solution to closing down the Visa option. Supposedly he is supposed to come up with a plan by friday :)
RE: epassporte update
The bank is NOT a US bank (St Kitts) so federal banking laws need not apply.
RE: epassporte update
how do you explain why Malick obviously lie to us?
Take a look what he wrote to epassporte users:
"we were notified that effective immediately, Visa International has suspended our banking partner's (St. Kitts Nevis Anguilla National Bank) ePassporte Visa program.
...At this time we do not know why this drastic action was taken by Visa."
Why he try to blame Visa, when it was after all ePassporte's partner bank who asked Visa to freeze all ePassporte visa ATM cards?
I believe that request to freeze those cards came from Malick himself.
Take a look what he wrote to epassporte users:
"we were notified that effective immediately, Visa International has suspended our banking partner's (St. Kitts Nevis Anguilla National Bank) ePassporte Visa program.
...At this time we do not know why this drastic action was taken by Visa."
Why he try to blame Visa, when it was after all ePassporte's partner bank who asked Visa to freeze all ePassporte visa ATM cards?
I believe that request to freeze those cards came from Malick himself.
RE: epassporte update
No, Visa International dropped all business with Epassporte. The bank just handled the Visa transactions. Why would he want a disaster like that. If he can't get back with Visa or Mastercard.....epassporte can not exist. He makes tons of money from epassporte.
RE: epassporte update
can you read this statement:
"At the request of St. Kitts-Nevis-Anguilla National Bank (SKNA), on September 2, 2010, Visa blocked network access for prepaid cards issued by SKNA and operated by ePassporte.com"
To put it simple, Visa didnt dropped all business with ePassporte, it was ePassporte's partner bank WHO ASKED VISA TO DO THIS
"At the request of St. Kitts-Nevis-Anguilla National Bank (SKNA), on September 2, 2010, Visa blocked network access for prepaid cards issued by SKNA and operated by ePassporte.com"
To put it simple, Visa didnt dropped all business with ePassporte, it was ePassporte's partner bank WHO ASKED VISA TO DO THIS
RE: epassporte update
In reference to this statement it sounds like if Mr. Mallick can get his act together and comply with the card regulations then there is a chance of him continuing with Visa. Non the less it appears it is his choice to block the account holders from their funds which is ruthless, just like him.
Visa hasn't said for how long the suspension will be, but Debra Geister, senior director of AML and compliance services at LexisNexis' risk solutions, says there is buzz on the blogs "that this action is based on the recently released credit card guidelines."
Visa hasn't said for how long the suspension will be, but Debra Geister, senior director of AML and compliance services at LexisNexis' risk solutions, says there is buzz on the blogs "that this action is based on the recently released credit card guidelines."
RE: epassporte update
The one thing that I don't understand is why the money is frozen and people cannot get their money back into their ewallets. I read the article again and noted that it said as follows:
“It is important to note that impacted SKNA prepaid cardholders are still able to access their funds through SKNA or SKNA’s agent, ePassporte.com."
That would seem to imply that the only thing that is frozen is the ablity to use the bank cards and online cards, but that people still should be able to transfer money back to their ewallets. Maybe I am reading this wrong, and it just means that only money currently in the ewallet can be accessed, but perhaps this ability will be returned to epassporte cardholders soon, and they will be able to at least withdraw their money through other means. On the other hand, if all of these conspiracy theories have any truth, then I have no idea what would happen to the money and maybe people will never see it again. As much as I dislike epassporte, it is hard to believe that this is all one big scam to steal millions of dollars in light of how immediately public things would obviously become, but who knows? And why did the article describe epassporte as "an agent" of the bank instead of a customer? Perhaps it is just poorly written or the source behind the article mispoke.
It all comes down to this: don't plan on getting your money back and never use epassporte again if you ever do get your money. That is a horrible thought for those hosts that can barely survive as it is, but it may be the ultimate reality. If the other posters are correct, the people behind epassporte are not to be trusted so if you ever get your money back, do not assume that it was just a one time thing and all is okay. Use another method to get paid even if there is a fee. The next time could be worse, and it would be foolish to do anything else but to switch payment methods.
(By the way, when I travel overseas, I take cash, credit cards, debit cards, prepaid cards, and travelers checks to make sure I always have back up methods. You never know when a bank will cut off your credit, debit, and prepaid cards so always have a backup plan, namely cash and travelers checks, and have cards issued by more than one bank and more than one company, i.e., both visa and mastercard, and amex if available, if possible.)
“It is important to note that impacted SKNA prepaid cardholders are still able to access their funds through SKNA or SKNA’s agent, ePassporte.com."
That would seem to imply that the only thing that is frozen is the ablity to use the bank cards and online cards, but that people still should be able to transfer money back to their ewallets. Maybe I am reading this wrong, and it just means that only money currently in the ewallet can be accessed, but perhaps this ability will be returned to epassporte cardholders soon, and they will be able to at least withdraw their money through other means. On the other hand, if all of these conspiracy theories have any truth, then I have no idea what would happen to the money and maybe people will never see it again. As much as I dislike epassporte, it is hard to believe that this is all one big scam to steal millions of dollars in light of how immediately public things would obviously become, but who knows? And why did the article describe epassporte as "an agent" of the bank instead of a customer? Perhaps it is just poorly written or the source behind the article mispoke.
It all comes down to this: don't plan on getting your money back and never use epassporte again if you ever do get your money. That is a horrible thought for those hosts that can barely survive as it is, but it may be the ultimate reality. If the other posters are correct, the people behind epassporte are not to be trusted so if you ever get your money back, do not assume that it was just a one time thing and all is okay. Use another method to get paid even if there is a fee. The next time could be worse, and it would be foolish to do anything else but to switch payment methods.
(By the way, when I travel overseas, I take cash, credit cards, debit cards, prepaid cards, and travelers checks to make sure I always have back up methods. You never know when a bank will cut off your credit, debit, and prepaid cards so always have a backup plan, namely cash and travelers checks, and have cards issued by more than one bank and more than one company, i.e., both visa and mastercard, and amex if available, if possible.)
RE: epassporte update
Sounds to me like everyone should not just resolve to losing their money with epassporte but keep calling them and the bank why they are not releasing the funds. We're talking a lot of people here and there is strength in numbers! Be strong and demand your money with emails and phone calls.
visa
is it difficult to get a private visa to russia like i was reading on google or its just for visa agencies to make money that they tell it?
my friend wants to make me an invitation but we are worried about it
my friend wants to make me an invitation but we are worried about it
RE: visa
As girl already commented - I also believe it is much easier to go through an agency or handle the application yourself.
In order to get a private visa, the person you will visit will have to fill out an application form for an invitation, the process time of this one is much longer (I read up to 45 days) than if you get an 'official' invitation - either from a hotel or from a legally registered agency.
Remember also that this is just to get the invitation so that you can apply for the visa itself - and embassies or consulates normally require that you meet up in person to deliver your application - unless you let someone else (including your visa agency) handle it. Most people don't live within a stone's throw of their embassy, after all.
If you are staying with your friend, you are required to register yourself with the police within 72 hours of your arrival (sundays and public holidays are not counted into this), and your friend will probably have to accompany you to document that he/she is the legal owner/renter of the apartment. If you are staying at a hotel, they will do this part for you, normally for a small fee.
So if time is money, there is a lot less hassle to let an agency do things for you. But if you want to save a bit of cash and don't mind the extra work with beauracracy, go for the private option ;)
In order to get a private visa, the person you will visit will have to fill out an application form for an invitation, the process time of this one is much longer (I read up to 45 days) than if you get an 'official' invitation - either from a hotel or from a legally registered agency.
Remember also that this is just to get the invitation so that you can apply for the visa itself - and embassies or consulates normally require that you meet up in person to deliver your application - unless you let someone else (including your visa agency) handle it. Most people don't live within a stone's throw of their embassy, after all.
If you are staying with your friend, you are required to register yourself with the police within 72 hours of your arrival (sundays and public holidays are not counted into this), and your friend will probably have to accompany you to document that he/she is the legal owner/renter of the apartment. If you are staying at a hotel, they will do this part for you, normally for a small fee.
So if time is money, there is a lot less hassle to let an agency do things for you. But if you want to save a bit of cash and don't mind the extra work with beauracracy, go for the private option ;)
RE: visa
thx for the comments...i have been to russia already 3 times but this time i will live at home of my friend so for me its different because i dont have any hotel to give me the invitation....however i found some sites which tell they can give invitation and i was worried if it can be trusted or not...but thx to all
RE: visa
i always use an agency ,never had problem with it. they only thing u need to be carefull about is ur travelinsuarnce because not all are excepted anymore.
Disgusting but Real Question (do not read if squemish) for Hosts
some of you are willing to use a dildo ATM, which I find really exciting. I am just curious how you get your ass so clean first. This is an honest question, since my girl friend said it isn't possible to do safely.
RE: Disgusting but Real Question (do not read if squemish) for Hosts
Of course it isn't, but then many do not care and do anything for a few pennies.
RE: Disgusting but Real Question (do not read if squemish) for Hosts
That's quite an assumption and most definitely a wrong one. While I'm not saying it's a bad thing to do it, especially since some really enjoy it, assuming most everyone would do it just for a profit is bullshit. Personally, I would never do something I'm not comfortable with no matter how much you were willing to give me for it and I'm pretty sure lots share the same opinion about these things.
RE: Disgusting but Real Question (do not read if squemish) for Hosts
I first give myself an enema :-))
RE: Disgusting but Real Question (do not read if squemish) for Hosts
Also enema is good to use;) Nothing worng with it, it will make it clean and ready for anal:)
RE: Disgusting but Real Question (do not read if squemish) for Hosts
Sure, nothing guarantees it, but at least like this ull be sure that ur bf will not have a surprise on his dick when he takes it out lol. And noone asks u to have anal every day, its okay to have it if its just sometimes, and btw nothing to be ashamed of. Everything that 2 ppl do in the bedroom is fine, as long as they are in love and both enjoy what they do. If u dont like it-its another story, but there is absolutely nothing to be ashamed of. My opinion.
RE: Disgusting but Real Question (do not read if squemish) for Hosts
The original poster is on about ass-to-mouth, which means, fuck your ass with dildo or fingers and the suck it. No enema can clean you that well so your not transferring nasty bacteria from your ass into your mouth. His gf is right, it's not hygienic and can be dangerous for health. Ass-to-mouth is very popular in porn and probably on cam and maybe anywhere the woman is PAID to do it. Who on earth would want to do that otherwise!
RE: Disgusting but Real Question (do not read if squemish) for Hosts
How can u possibly lose enema in ur ass?????
RE: Disgusting but Real Question (do not read if squemish) for Hosts
mine is so loose now u could lose a whole enema bag. :-))
RE: Disgusting but Real Question (do not read if squemish) for Hosts
Are u sure u know what the word enema means?:)
U fill enema with water and spray the water from there to ur ass, keep water inside for like 305 mins then let it out, and like this 3 times. U CANT lose it in ur ass, cuz its simply cant be in ur ass, just a part of it can be inside while spraying, but then u take it out lol))
U fill enema with water and spray the water from there to ur ass, keep water inside for like 305 mins then let it out, and like this 3 times. U CANT lose it in ur ass, cuz its simply cant be in ur ass, just a part of it can be inside while spraying, but then u take it out lol))
RE: Disgusting but Real Question (do not read if squemish) for Hosts
You seem to know a lot about anal... can you send me a ccmail with your hostname? I would love to visit you in video.
RE: Disgusting but Real Question (do not read if squemish) for Hosts
Sorry but there is not point for that:) I dont do hardcore in video:) Which means no anal and no toys:)
RE: Disgusting but Real Question (do not read if squemish) for Hosts
I can settle with fingers :P
RE: Disgusting but Real Question (do not read if squemish) for Hosts
Lol yeah im sure u can..But i cant))))))
RE: Disgusting but Real Question (do not read if squemish) for Hosts
Talk about getting blue balls ;)
How about a hot conversation about it one of these days lol? I know, I have low standards :P
How about a hot conversation about it one of these days lol? I know, I have low standards :P
RE: Disgusting but Real Question (do not read if squemish) for Hosts
Nah, not an option either:) I know im a very boring host lol)
RE: Disgusting but Real Question (do not read if squemish) for Hosts
Judging by your reply to the original post you seem very far from boring ;)
I thought this was a sex chat site lol...
I thought this was a sex chat site lol...
RE: Disgusting but Real Question (do not read if squemish) for Hosts
We need someone to do anal fist show. Oh never mind, I forgot this is softcore site.
RE: Disgusting but Real Question (do not read if squemish) for Hosts
i say i do it, i show i do it..but i dont actually do it..but u r happy seing it:))
New category coming soon, need name
It will star imshy, I'm not your friend and tisme in a 3 ring sex rodeo. But we need a name. Got a good one? First prize an orgy wiht the 3 aformentioned dudes. 2nd prize another orgy with Dog the Bounty Hunter. 3rd prize an orgy with the corpse of Fidel Castro
RE: New category coming soon, need name
wow a category for the 3 funniest guys on cc...i KNEW we'd get the recognition we deserve one day *TAKES A BOW*
RE: New category coming soon, need name
im sad i wasnt mention....sigh...i will be in my corner:P
RE: New category coming soon, need name
u can b the cameraman/stand-in incase one of use pulls a muscle ;)
RE: New category coming soon, need name
Funniest is the razor-sharp, invective of his put-downs. My favourite was "dude...sux to be you", for one moment I thought Oscar Wilde must have been reborn.
RE: New category coming soon, need name
im happy i could brighten ur day with that one...took me a long time to think of it but the end result really was worth it :)
Question: Name the ONE thing...
...that was the MOST romantic thing that someone ever did for you. What was the one thing they did that really made you feel warm and loved and made you realize they truly cared for you.
RE: Question: Name the ONE thing...
he let me speak, was strict but kind, asked right and bold questions, did what he promised, supported me morally and didn't care about what everybody else thought. It was at the time when I was pretty down and it seemed to me that everything was against me...
He had the most beautiful penetrating blue eyes and gave me the energy to look at the world from a new angle and believe in people again. I felt that there was only me and him in the world and he is not interested in getting something from me. We didn't sleep after that if you ask it yourself. He gave me what I needed at the right moment- made me feel I had a reliable friend. ( Usually I am not into platonic relationships:) )
He had the most beautiful penetrating blue eyes and gave me the energy to look at the world from a new angle and believe in people again. I felt that there was only me and him in the world and he is not interested in getting something from me. We didn't sleep after that if you ask it yourself. He gave me what I needed at the right moment- made me feel I had a reliable friend. ( Usually I am not into platonic relationships:) )
RE: Question: Name the ONE thing...
"( Usually I am not into platonic relationships:) )" Well since he was gay, platonic is the only option. If it were me, I'd be banging you silly. Oh wait, you're Glamour host, never mind.
RE: Question: Name the ONE thing...
I will consider about having a good warm piggy-guy in my bed for the winter. You just have to catch the right moment;)
RE: Question: Name the ONE thing...
coz im so sweet and kind and nice and cute and fun to b around...didnt u see me say that the other day? damn!!!
Name the ONE thing...
As stated in one of the films: " All big feels are only illusion of anything what never will become". I'm always looking for love: real,bold,breathtaking sen and i had all it, i THOUGHT i had. What could be more sentimental than crying on the shoulder of a man who always aspired to leadership? Who can be more faithful than erasing your dirty pants man, where there is no washing mashine? What could be more romantic than finding a man drawing a portrait of yours, standing barefoot at knees? But in the end all of my happiest moments - one, as in the movie "The Holiday": "how the hell I might seem that all is well?" - said a woman after a few sad years. Same with me. I had much but have nothing. Mybe becouse i am such, mybe becouse life is so....but romantic always is good, it's warming my heart
Why do most members have blow up dolls in video?
They forget to hide them before turning on their cams.
RE: Why do most members have blow up dolls in video?
lol.... thx god sometimes their just blow up dolls .. and not else
like dogs or cat
like dogs or cat
RE: Why do most members have blow up dolls in video?
In case my credit card maxes out during a video I take off my glasses and wiggle the doll and talk in a falsetto voice with a Russian accent.
RE: Why do most members have blow up dolls in video?
Excellent idea! I need to duct tape the holes in my doll (piercing her nipples, bad idea) and have her ready next time my card fails!
RE: Why do most members have blow up dolls in video?
You love that doll so much you should marry it......so......i did....
RE: Why do most members have blow up dolls in video?
Rubber Fucky, you're the one!
You make bath time so much fun!
Rubber Fucky, I'm awfully fond of you!
You make bath time so much fun!
Rubber Fucky, I'm awfully fond of you!
RE: Why do most members have blow up dolls in video?
i get so tired of all this profiling going on these days. My girlfriend and I went to the airport and they wouldn't let her on. Said she might blow up unless I let the air out of her!
Why do so many hosts have stuffed animals in video?
These are the same kinds of things children have. I thought appearing underage was banned on cc?
RE: Why do so many hosts have stuffed animals in video?
lol :P
i dont think that someone will want to fuck stuffed jirafee:P
i dont think that someone will want to fuck stuffed jirafee:P
RE: Why do so many hosts have stuffed animals in video?
Don't be too sure about that, there are real weird folks on this site my dear
RE: Why do so many hosts have stuffed animals in video?
do u think that stuffed jiraffe,elephant and monkey can attract someone in a sexual way ? :OO oh my...:))))
RE: Why do so many hosts have stuffed animals in video?
From what other hosts tell me, yes. And well about half of the membership belongs in a mental hospital and the other half belong in jail
RE: Why do so many hosts have stuffed animals in video?
oh please, some guys just kidding at girls here...i never take serious funny requiests.
RE: Why do so many hosts have stuffed animals in video?
What about those of us who belong in both ? :(
RE: Why do so many hosts have stuffed animals in video?
When I saw your first post about the giraffe I was going to agree with you but now that you've brought in the monkey and the elephant I think I'll have to change my mind :P
RE: Why do so many hosts have stuffed animals in video?
Yes they are...a member asked me to f*** my teddy..what a weirdo...after that i had to hide my teddies..we live in a sick world...lol
RE: Why do so many hosts have stuffed animals in video?
Somebody once asked me to sit on and smother a teddy bear LOL
it was fun :) not for the teddy bear :P
it was fun :) not for the teddy bear :P
RE: Why do so many hosts have stuffed animals in video?
caz they simply as a decor ... for underground objects ... so the room it wont look boring
RE: Why do so many hosts have stuffed animals in video?
Some are working from home and their bedrooms have stuffed animals from their youth. Some just like them....many are still teenagers. Plus it makes a cute prop.
RE: Why do so many hosts have stuffed animals in video?
If I get a little "ImNotYourFriend" doll made up would you like it ? :P
RE: Why do so many hosts have stuffed animals in video?
alot of these silly toys were bought and sent by infatuated members with their bad sense of style and class. The hosts simply have them on display to humour the aforementioned members.
transfer my funds to friend accnt..
i dont have personal account to i try to ask epass if i can use a friend account and they say' :;;>>>>>> Please be advised that you can receive your payments from the sender to
your e-Wallet and then you can withdraw either through a Bank Wire
Transfer or a US Checking Account withdrawal or a MasterCard Credit/Debit
Card withdrawal.
Please be advised that as per the new update received from our Account
Verification Department, you will be unable to use the funds which are
available in your Visa Virtual Card.
Our Account Verification Department is working to resolve the issue. Only
once the issue is resolved, you will be able to use the funds which are
available in your Visa Virtual Card. The funds are safe and secure.
As per our records we could see that you have set your e-Wallet as Default
Credit Fund, you will be able to receive the future payments into your
e-Wallet and withdraw them to your Personal Bank Account through Bank Wire
Transfer. If you have a US Checking Account or MasterCard Credit/Debit
Card, then you can register and verify it to withdraw the funds to the
respective Accounts.
We seek your co-operation and patience.
You can withdraw funds to your Personal Bank Account through Bank Wire
Transfer for which you need to meet the following requirements:
1. The Beneficiary Name on the Bank Account must match exactly with the
name registered in your ePassporte Account,
2. You need to agree for the US$50.00 Bank Wire Transfer Fee,
3. You need to submit the completely filled in Wire Transfer Request Form
(Wire Disbursement Form) along with a copy of your Government Issued Photo
ID.
In addition to that it will take 7-10 business days for the funds to
reflect in your Personal Bank Account.
Please send an email by agreeing for US$50.00 Bank Wire Transfer Fee, so
that we may forward the issue to our Account Verification Department.
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your e-Wallet and then you can withdraw either through a Bank Wire
Transfer or a US Checking Account withdrawal or a MasterCard Credit/Debit
Card withdrawal.
Please be advised that as per the new update received from our Account
Verification Department, you will be unable to use the funds which are
available in your Visa Virtual Card.
Our Account Verification Department is working to resolve the issue. Only
once the issue is resolved, you will be able to use the funds which are
available in your Visa Virtual Card. The funds are safe and secure.
As per our records we could see that you have set your e-Wallet as Default
Credit Fund, you will be able to receive the future payments into your
e-Wallet and withdraw them to your Personal Bank Account through Bank Wire
Transfer. If you have a US Checking Account or MasterCard Credit/Debit
Card, then you can register and verify it to withdraw the funds to the
respective Accounts.
We seek your co-operation and patience.
You can withdraw funds to your Personal Bank Account through Bank Wire
Transfer for which you need to meet the following requirements:
1. The Beneficiary Name on the Bank Account must match exactly with the
name registered in your ePassporte Account,
2. You need to agree for the US$50.00 Bank Wire Transfer Fee,
3. You need to submit the completely filled in Wire Transfer Request Form
(Wire Disbursement Form) along with a copy of your Government Issued Photo
ID.
In addition to that it will take 7-10 business days for the funds to
reflect in your Personal Bank Account.
Please send an email by agreeing for US$50.00 Bank Wire Transfer Fee, so
that we may forward the issue to our Account Verification Department.
....
RE: transfer my funds to friend accnt..
I am sorry to say, but what i know about ePassporte and their customer service, i dont believe they are very willing to find any solution to help customers withdraw the money from accounts.
And if you use some rude words when contacting them, they just block your account and say they wont do busines with you anymore and they keep your money, that has really happened to many.
As you can tell from the reply you got, they just tell you bullshit that really dont answer to your question at all.
And if you use some rude words when contacting them, they just block your account and say they wont do busines with you anymore and they keep your money, that has really happened to many.
As you can tell from the reply you got, they just tell you bullshit that really dont answer to your question at all.
RE: transfer my funds to friend accnt..
50% was what they always charged for "wire", nothing new there
RE: transfer my funds to friend accnt..
$50.00? A supervisor told me a few days ago that it was $3,00 or $5,00 for the bank transfer after I registered a USA checking account. Definitely was not $50.00!! There was no option for bank accounts from other countries. And the Mastercard transfer fee was also very low if under $400, and I think it was 1% of any amount over $400 so $1000 would just cost $10. Hopefully that has not changed for those lucky enough to have Mastercards and their money in their ewallets. But $50? WTF???
If anything, Epassporte should waive all fees like CC has until they fix this mess. See what these people are about? They're raising their fees to make up for the money they're losing until the visa issue is resolved.
Epassporte is scum! Do not expect to ever see your money. I hate to say that, and I hope I am wrong, but they are the scum of the Earth! And if you ever are lucky enough to get your money, close you Epassporte account immediately after. Only a fool would deal with that company after all of this.
If you don't make a lot so the cost of having CC wire money means a lot, then try being paid once a month instead of two or maybe open up studio accounts with friends that you trust and combine your payments and split the fee. But don't ever use Epassporte again!
And to think some people were defending them.
If anything, Epassporte should waive all fees like CC has until they fix this mess. See what these people are about? They're raising their fees to make up for the money they're losing until the visa issue is resolved.
Epassporte is scum! Do not expect to ever see your money. I hate to say that, and I hope I am wrong, but they are the scum of the Earth! And if you ever are lucky enough to get your money, close you Epassporte account immediately after. Only a fool would deal with that company after all of this.
If you don't make a lot so the cost of having CC wire money means a lot, then try being paid once a month instead of two or maybe open up studio accounts with friends that you trust and combine your payments and split the fee. But don't ever use Epassporte again!
And to think some people were defending them.
RE: transfer my funds to friend accnt..
I may have misread the post. It might be that Epassporte is either adding a bank wire method for for all customers regardless of country or that they simply never mentioned that as an option to me. Either way, $50 is wrong.
For someone that was using bank machines, the fee should be no more than what they would pay at that machine. Epassporte should eat the difference, if any, and do the right thing like CC did. In fact, CC would be doing nothing wrong if they didn't waive the fee but they took the extra step of waiving it. That shows you the difference between a company that knows how to treat people and one that does not.
For someone that was using bank machines, the fee should be no more than what they would pay at that machine. Epassporte should eat the difference, if any, and do the right thing like CC did. In fact, CC would be doing nothing wrong if they didn't waive the fee but they took the extra step of waiving it. That shows you the difference between a company that knows how to treat people and one that does not.
RE: transfer my funds to friend accnt..
Read what EPassporte send. $50 is the fee for a bank wire transfer. This would normally be to accounts outside the USA. If EPassporte bears both sending and recieving bank charges then $50 is very reasonable. If this only covers the sending charges then i agree it is high. $30 or $35 would be more reasonable.
RE: transfer my funds to friend accnt..
My US bank charges $40 for an international wire transfer, so I suspect it's not e-passporte necessarily trying profit off this issue, but simply passing a cost along, perhaps with a markup. As to what I think about banks and their fees, that's another story.
RE: transfer my funds to friend accnt..
Yes I agree that CC has been awesome through this!! For them to
go the extra step and waive the transfer fee shows just how great they
are. Also their customer service has been very quick with responses
even though I am sure that they are getting an overwhelming amount of emails and calls. Thumbs up CC....thanks!
go the extra step and waive the transfer fee shows just how great they
are. Also their customer service has been very quick with responses
even though I am sure that they are getting an overwhelming amount of emails and calls. Thumbs up CC....thanks!
RE: transfer my funds to friend accnt..
It's actually Visa, that pulled the plug. It seems that the owner of epassporte is also the man behind the movie "Middle Men", about the web cam industry
RE: Actions speak louder than words
i promise never to vid again..i really mean to keep this promise:P
RE: Actions speak louder than words
Maybe it comes with the age and experience but in the meantime I think that you should even plan before acting....
And I also don't like partners (men) who give promises and then act as if they have forgotten about them and had never promised. Pathetic!
And I also don't like partners (men) who give promises and then act as if they have forgotten about them and had never promised. Pathetic!
RE: Actions speak louder than words
I fell in love with a host. She also acted as being in love with me. There were several details that showed me she really meant that she loved me. We had an agreement that I will travel to russia to meet "only" her. And she promised she will meet only "me." No other member, only me. However one day before I traveled I found out by a member in comm. chat that she met "others." She confessed and she admitted to like other men and that it was interesting to meet other men. It was heartbreaking and very disappointing for me... I don't think promises work. Not in real life, much less in the virtual world.
RE: Actions speak louder than words
Sorry to hear that :( I think again it is integrity of the person speaking the words and what importance they put on being sincere and truthful. Personally I am on the "Show Me Plan". Show me through your actions that you are worthy of my believing you. Unfortunately she did show you that she was not sincere but be thankful that you
learned then and not later after she had depleted your heart and your bank account.
learned then and not later after she had depleted your heart and your bank account.
RE: Actions speak louder than words
promises work. it is the promiser who does not. Don't assume all promises are false. It all depends on the person
RE: Actions speak louder than words
You are right, I have also met such people. If I get a man who fulfills all important promises he gives to me ,I am going to stick to him and would do my best to make him never want to leave me :))
Honesty and trust are most important between parters.
hmm and good sex as well;)
Honesty and trust are most important between parters.
hmm and good sex as well;)
RE: Actions speak louder than words
I think that many mean well when they promise something but it all comes down to integrity. How important is their "word" to that person.
Personally I believe in the saying "mean what you say and say what you mean". Obviously on this site people are not necessarily the people that they are in real life.
People with little integrity often are not accountable for their promises or word with using the statement "well, I changed my mind". LOL
Personally I believe in the saying "mean what you say and say what you mean". Obviously on this site people are not necessarily the people that they are in real life.
People with little integrity often are not accountable for their promises or word with using the statement "well, I changed my mind". LOL
RE: Actions speak louder than words
"Even here on the CC is given a lot of promises, but who would have served them, if you promise, fulfill it, give promise ......ACT!"
I agree, if you promise in free chat or open to strip in 121, do it!
I agree, if you promise in free chat or open to strip in 121, do it!
RE: Actions speak louder than words
I try to keep promises that I make, but when I am not sure I can not fulfill something I will answer with "maybe" when the outcome depends on the actions of others or something which I have no control over.
One thing that bothers me is when I answer "maybe" or " I will try" and someone says "no, answer you will or you wont". Why do some people try to make others promise something they do not know if they can fulfill?
I definitely agree that a promise of love should never be entered into lightly or without much forethought. Vows should be kept when made. Love can survive many difficult situations and problems, if it does not then it most likely was not love to begin with.
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
As for the person in the military, not being able to wait for a loved one to return, or wait until you can return to a loved one, is nothing but a sign of weakness and lack of commitment. My mother waited for my father while he was away during Vietnam, and my father waited until he could return to her. He was drafted less than a year after they were married and it was very difficult for him to leave, but he fulfilled his commitment to both his country and his family. So many people today only want to fulfill commitments to themselves and no one else. It seems worse with each younger generation, more and more concerned with self than others. Instead of commitment to others being the standard, it has become the rare jewel. If you can find someone who will honor their commitments, and keep their promises, even to the benefit of others over detriment to themselves, then you have found someone worth holding on to.
One thing that bothers me is when I answer "maybe" or " I will try" and someone says "no, answer you will or you wont". Why do some people try to make others promise something they do not know if they can fulfill?
I definitely agree that a promise of love should never be entered into lightly or without much forethought. Vows should be kept when made. Love can survive many difficult situations and problems, if it does not then it most likely was not love to begin with.
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
As for the person in the military, not being able to wait for a loved one to return, or wait until you can return to a loved one, is nothing but a sign of weakness and lack of commitment. My mother waited for my father while he was away during Vietnam, and my father waited until he could return to her. He was drafted less than a year after they were married and it was very difficult for him to leave, but he fulfilled his commitment to both his country and his family. So many people today only want to fulfill commitments to themselves and no one else. It seems worse with each younger generation, more and more concerned with self than others. Instead of commitment to others being the standard, it has become the rare jewel. If you can find someone who will honor their commitments, and keep their promises, even to the benefit of others over detriment to themselves, then you have found someone worth holding on to.
RE: Actions speak louder than words
I think a part of your message is from the Bible:
First Corinthians 13:4-8 provides a perfect description for agape : "Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil, but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails."
The love described here is the love between the God and his children. Unconditional love. I think it is hardly possible between 2 loving people. I prefer "friendship-love" more. Or "philos love". :)
First Corinthians 13:4-8 provides a perfect description for agape : "Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil, but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails."
The love described here is the love between the God and his children. Unconditional love. I think it is hardly possible between 2 loving people. I prefer "friendship-love" more. Or "philos love". :)
RE: Actions speak louder than words
I disagree. To love in that way is not possible to do it perfectly. None of us can love perfectly. But we can love givingly, and unselfishly. We can consider the other person's needs before our own. We can lay down our own needs, our own desires, our wants and wishes, and seek what is good for the other person. If someone I love is in danger, I am willing to endanger myself to help them. For someone that I truly love, a child, a spouse, a parent, a friend, I may even be willing to give my life for them -- at least, if I was ever in a situation where that was required of me, I believe I would be willing to
RE: Actions speak louder than words
It sounds noble... And what qualities should have the person you love? Would you be able to love a selfish person who misuses you love for financial reasons or just to feel self-worthy with you?
I think if it is about a love not between a parent and a child, both partners should have the ability to give and to take... I believe, only then it can result in a long-term relationship.
I think if it is about a love not between a parent and a child, both partners should have the ability to give and to take... I believe, only then it can result in a long-term relationship.
RE: Actions speak louder than words
like I said, we can't do it perfectly, but we can do it, and we can grow in that kind of love. The love we are talking here is a choice, not just a feeling. I can choose to be patient, or I can allow myself to be impatient. I can choose to be calm tempered, or I can allow myself to be irritable, resentful, etc. I can treat the jerk with respect. I can forgive the one who has wronged me. It is a choice. Will I choose? sometimes no. Sometimes I will allow my self, my feelings, to get in the way of my choosing. But the more I grow in that love, and practice that love, the more I will make the right choice. Will it ever be perfect? Will I never fail in it? No. Because I am human. But when I don't fail, maybe a little bit of God is living in me, helping me.
RE: Actions speak louder than words
God would not be happy with you spending time on a porn site/
RE: Actions speak louder than words
Actually, that's not necessarily true -- it simply depends on what your religion is. For example, as two flip sides of the same coin, if you're Christian and Catholic... and you come here to yank and get off... in the eyes of the church, masturbation is considered a minor sin. On the other hand, if you're Christian but a Protestant instead, in the eyes of the church masturbation IS allowed and it's NOT a sin at all.
In fact, times are changing even for the Catholic church. These days the world has to deal with the spread of AIDS and sexual disease, as well as skyrocketing rates of unwed teen pregnancy. As a result, there is now a movement within the Catholic church -- from younger priests and bishops -- to simply acknowledge that masturbation is a natural part of life. After all, someone "pleasuring them self" to relieve sexual tension is obviously a FAR better alternative than the spread of AIDS, sexual disease, or unwanted pregnancies. So even in the Catholic church, there is a growing movement to view sex in an all-new 21st century way, and to no longer consider certain things the "sins" that they once were.
In fact, times are changing even for the Catholic church. These days the world has to deal with the spread of AIDS and sexual disease, as well as skyrocketing rates of unwed teen pregnancy. As a result, there is now a movement within the Catholic church -- from younger priests and bishops -- to simply acknowledge that masturbation is a natural part of life. After all, someone "pleasuring them self" to relieve sexual tension is obviously a FAR better alternative than the spread of AIDS, sexual disease, or unwanted pregnancies. So even in the Catholic church, there is a growing movement to view sex in an all-new 21st century way, and to no longer consider certain things the "sins" that they once were.
RE: Actions speak louder than words
That's a really sensible replay. It sounds as if you would take life as a game. Which I basically like in men. And I like the idea that one can have some control over oneself and one's feelings.
It gives the freedom of choice.. I see so often that people get bored with each other after a certain amount of years (the not real love dies after 4 years as a rule) but they simply give up and continue to live together making themselves and their children unhappy..
mmm forgiving a jerk- I like the idea. I would also forgive him just to get rid of him in my head. Just let that jerkish situation go and go on.
I hope you will find that perfect love even when it comes late. And I will practice, practice as well:)
It gives the freedom of choice.. I see so often that people get bored with each other after a certain amount of years (the not real love dies after 4 years as a rule) but they simply give up and continue to live together making themselves and their children unhappy..
mmm forgiving a jerk- I like the idea. I would also forgive him just to get rid of him in my head. Just let that jerkish situation go and go on.
I hope you will find that perfect love even when it comes late. And I will practice, practice as well:)
fact
A little known cricketing fact...
The first testicular guard was used in cricket in 1874 and the first helmet was used in 1974.
It took 100 years for men to realise that their brains could also be important!
The first testicular guard was used in cricket in 1874 and the first helmet was used in 1974.
It took 100 years for men to realise that their brains could also be important!
IT S BEEN A TOUGH YEAR (time for some humor)
It was a tough year, but I made it !!!
But not everyone is as lucky as I am......
The economy is so bad that I got a pre-declined credit card in the mail.
I ordered a burger at McDonald's, and the kid behind the counter asked, "Can you afford fries with that?"
CEO's are now playing miniature golf.
If the bank returns your check marked "Insufficient Funds," you have to call them and ask if they mean you or them .
Hot Wheels and Matchbox stocks are trading higher than GM.
McDonald's is selling the 1/4 'ouncer'.
Parents in Beverly Hills and Malibu are firing their nannies and learning their children's names.
A truckload of Americans was caught sneaking into Mexico .
Dick Cheney took his stockbroker hunting.
Motel Six won't leave the light on anymore.
The Mafia is laying off judges.
BP Oil laid off 25 Congressmen.
Congress says they are looking into the Bernard Madoff scandal. Oh Great!! The guy who made $50 Billion disappear is being investigated by the people who made $1.5 Trillion disappear!
And, finally...
I was so depressed last night thinking about the economy, wars, jobs, my savings, Social Security, retirement funds, and our bleak future, that I called the Suicide Lifeline and was connected to a call center in Pakistan . When I told them I was suicidal, they got all excited, and asked if I could drive a truck.
RE: IT S BEEN A TOUGH YEAR (time for some humor)
And I heard Donald Trump was washing dishes for a living
RE: IT S BEEN A TOUGH YEAR (time for some humor)
laugh me ass off-love it, sounds like another good year coming up
Why i the Glamhost I see posting here so angry?
Did she see INYF on cam? Imshy on cam? both? Ok that could be disconcerting, but take a pill and calm down. Just take 2 or 3 happy pills and everything will be ok in the morning.
RE: Why i the Glamhost I see posting here so angry?
no,she found out that she has been promised to me in an arranged marriage.so of course she has heard about my miniscule love truncheon & my soap allergy.i guess you could say she's either suffering from premarital nerves or has the shits because once we're married she will be a social outcast :--)
RE: Why i the Glamhost I see posting here so angry?
So many glamour hosts here. Which one you mean? ))
RE: Why i the Glamhost I see posting here so angry?
usually if a host see's me on cam she quits and goes into therapy...so u can rule me out :p
RE: Why i the Glamhost I see posting here so angry?
its understandable imshy. your a little bit on the scary side. im suprised you ever dated some of the hosts here. No , i correct that , IM SHOCKED !!!!
RE: Why i the Glamhost I see posting here so angry?
hey...not as shocked as i am...but u know what...i guess im actually better looking....kinder....politer...more charming and more fun than u lot think....so...in conclusion...i stand by my words that i AM amazing :p
RE: Why i the Glamhost I see posting here so angry?
shy you forgot your best quality ...modesty.
RE: Why i the Glamhost I see posting here so angry?
First time I ever hooked up a cam for a 121 I thought I'd turned gay as I got turned on by this gorgeous man on screen looking back at me ....
Epassporte - to hosts
I am sure many of you are upset right now. You do have some options to get any money that is currently in your Epassporte account. As to future payments, I would avoid Epassporte even if they fix whatever problem they are having. They are very difficult to deal with.
Even without the ability to use a bank machine or to buy stuff online, money can be withdrawn from a "Personal" Epassporte Account if the user registers either 1) a credit or debit card (I was told to use a Mastercard since they are having problems with VISA) or 2) a checking account in the USA. The problem of course is that most CC hosts have "Business Affiliate Accounts", not "Personal Accounts". I am also guessing that many don't have credit/debit cards either, not to mention that they are usually not in the USA.
I do not know if you can register a checking account in the USA or a Mastercard with a Business Affiliate Account so email Epassporte and ask. They are difficult to deal with and don't like answering questions about things other than the caller's own account, and I don't have a Business Afffiliate Account. But even if you cannot register a Mastercard or U.S. checking account, you still have options.
1. If you are in a country that allows you to have a Personal Account, then create one and transfer the money from your Business Affiliate Account to your Personal Account and then register your Mastercard or checking account (if you have one in the USA) to get your money. It doesn't cost that much to transfer the money to the bank account or credit card but it does take about two weeks.
2. If you do not have the ability to get a Personal Account and it turns out that you cannot register a Mastercard or U.S. checking account with a Business Affiliate Account (or you simply don't have a Mastercard and cannot get one or are not in the USA), then you will need to ask a friend to help you. The friend will need to have a Personal Account and either a Mastercard or a U.S. checking account that is registered with Epassporte, just like under option #1. You can then send him the money and he can withdraw it and send it to you by another method.
Take note that Business Affiliate accounts cannot receive money except from Business Accounts so he cannot send the money back to you if he has a Personal Account. CC uses a Business Account and you get Business Affiliate Accounts from them. I am not sure if other Business Accounts besides CC can send money to an Affiliate Account obtained from CC so once again, if you send money to your friend's Business Account instead of his Personal Account and then want it back, I don't know if this is possible. Like I said, it definitely is not possible if he has a Personal account, and I doubt Business Affiliate accounts can receive money from other Business Affiliate accounts. Also, I have no idea how one withdraws money from a Business Account after he receives it, but I am guessing that most friends that would be able to help would be using Personal Accounts so they would just needs a Mastercard or a U.S. checking account.
Also do not assume you have a Business Affiliate Account unless you got it from CC. I know one person that got a Personal Account from another site and then registered it with CC so some hosts may have personal accounts, not business afffiliate accounts.
In sum, if you are not currently using a personal account (or perhpas a business acount but I don't know much about these), then you will need 1) to find out if you can register a Mastercard or USA checking account with a business affiliate account and if yes, register the Mastercard or USA bank account with Epassporte, if you have one, 2) to create your own a personal account (or maybe business acount... but check if this will work) and transfer the money to it and withdraw it via a Mastecard or U.S. checking account, or 3) to get a friend with a personal account (or maybe a business account if this works) to help you. Just remember that after you transfer the money to another account, unless you it goes to a business account, you cannot get it back, and I'm not even sure if that would work if CC created that account for you and it is not CC's business account that is sending the money.
The only other possiblity would be for you to ask CC if you can transfer them back the money, they withdraw the money, and then send it under your new payment method. Perhaps they are considering this now.
Even without the ability to use a bank machine or to buy stuff online, money can be withdrawn from a "Personal" Epassporte Account if the user registers either 1) a credit or debit card (I was told to use a Mastercard since they are having problems with VISA) or 2) a checking account in the USA. The problem of course is that most CC hosts have "Business Affiliate Accounts", not "Personal Accounts". I am also guessing that many don't have credit/debit cards either, not to mention that they are usually not in the USA.
I do not know if you can register a checking account in the USA or a Mastercard with a Business Affiliate Account so email Epassporte and ask. They are difficult to deal with and don't like answering questions about things other than the caller's own account, and I don't have a Business Afffiliate Account. But even if you cannot register a Mastercard or U.S. checking account, you still have options.
1. If you are in a country that allows you to have a Personal Account, then create one and transfer the money from your Business Affiliate Account to your Personal Account and then register your Mastercard or checking account (if you have one in the USA) to get your money. It doesn't cost that much to transfer the money to the bank account or credit card but it does take about two weeks.
2. If you do not have the ability to get a Personal Account and it turns out that you cannot register a Mastercard or U.S. checking account with a Business Affiliate Account (or you simply don't have a Mastercard and cannot get one or are not in the USA), then you will need to ask a friend to help you. The friend will need to have a Personal Account and either a Mastercard or a U.S. checking account that is registered with Epassporte, just like under option #1. You can then send him the money and he can withdraw it and send it to you by another method.
Take note that Business Affiliate accounts cannot receive money except from Business Accounts so he cannot send the money back to you if he has a Personal Account. CC uses a Business Account and you get Business Affiliate Accounts from them. I am not sure if other Business Accounts besides CC can send money to an Affiliate Account obtained from CC so once again, if you send money to your friend's Business Account instead of his Personal Account and then want it back, I don't know if this is possible. Like I said, it definitely is not possible if he has a Personal account, and I doubt Business Affiliate accounts can receive money from other Business Affiliate accounts. Also, I have no idea how one withdraws money from a Business Account after he receives it, but I am guessing that most friends that would be able to help would be using Personal Accounts so they would just needs a Mastercard or a U.S. checking account.
Also do not assume you have a Business Affiliate Account unless you got it from CC. I know one person that got a Personal Account from another site and then registered it with CC so some hosts may have personal accounts, not business afffiliate accounts.
In sum, if you are not currently using a personal account (or perhpas a business acount but I don't know much about these), then you will need 1) to find out if you can register a Mastercard or USA checking account with a business affiliate account and if yes, register the Mastercard or USA bank account with Epassporte, if you have one, 2) to create your own a personal account (or maybe business acount... but check if this will work) and transfer the money to it and withdraw it via a Mastecard or U.S. checking account, or 3) to get a friend with a personal account (or maybe a business account if this works) to help you. Just remember that after you transfer the money to another account, unless you it goes to a business account, you cannot get it back, and I'm not even sure if that would work if CC created that account for you and it is not CC's business account that is sending the money.
The only other possiblity would be for you to ask CC if you can transfer them back the money, they withdraw the money, and then send it under your new payment method. Perhaps they are considering this now.
RE: Epassporte - to hosts
It has clearly been stated by Epassporte that unless our funds with them are in the Wallet Account , funds cannot be transferred to our bank accounts. Typically when funds are deposited to the Epassporte Account they are in the Visa Account which includes the Electron Visa and the Virtual Visa accounts. The sum in those two accounts (which most of us leave our funds in) are frozen and the money cannot be transfered to our bank accounts or the Wallet Account. The Wallet Account is the only account with Epassporte that hosts can transfer money to their personal bank accounts. Thanks for the help though. Your intentions were good :)
RE: Epassporte - to hosts
ah...the few times i loaded money, I think it went into my wallet. So the money is locked in your VISA account? that sucks if true. But maybe some hosts transferred it to their wallets to be safe until they needed it as epassporte had recommended.
More detailed epass info
As host below stated, the money must be in the "wallet" section to wire it...most do not hold their money in that location. The epass virtual visa and visa electron accounts are frozen by Visa and the bank, not epass.
I called Visa to see if the problem was with epass accounts or all cards issued by the bank in St Kitts. I was told it was just the epass accounts.
It seems the main issue the anti money laundering (AML) and anti terrorist rules that have been recently instituted.
The types of cards that are the main focus are debit pre=paid cards, gift cards and reloadable top up cards.
The main trigger points are cards that:
Don't have the value clearly labeled on them.
Are reloadable at places other than banks.
Can have a maximum lifetime value of more than $1,000, including reloads.
Can be used anywhere -- especially if they can be used internationally.
Can have the value transferred to another card.
Are purchased in large amounts or seem otherwise suspicious.
(epass visa accounts fit almost every category)
The solution may take time, the people at epass are working on options. I truly believe the people at epass will get the money to the owners eventually. I feel comfortable in saying that the epass people are not scamming anyone, this is just a problem of the paranoia of our times.
A suggestion for hosts is to start receiving monies in a more straightforward bank account (business or personal). Run your business as a real business.That would require paying taxes in your local country as well.
I called Visa to see if the problem was with epass accounts or all cards issued by the bank in St Kitts. I was told it was just the epass accounts.
It seems the main issue the anti money laundering (AML) and anti terrorist rules that have been recently instituted.
The types of cards that are the main focus are debit pre=paid cards, gift cards and reloadable top up cards.
The main trigger points are cards that:
Don't have the value clearly labeled on them.
Are reloadable at places other than banks.
Can have a maximum lifetime value of more than $1,000, including reloads.
Can be used anywhere -- especially if they can be used internationally.
Can have the value transferred to another card.
Are purchased in large amounts or seem otherwise suspicious.
(epass visa accounts fit almost every category)
The solution may take time, the people at epass are working on options. I truly believe the people at epass will get the money to the owners eventually. I feel comfortable in saying that the epass people are not scamming anyone, this is just a problem of the paranoia of our times.
A suggestion for hosts is to start receiving monies in a more straightforward bank account (business or personal). Run your business as a real business.That would require paying taxes in your local country as well.
RE: More detailed epass info
Can epassporte funds be transfered back to cc, so they can put into hosts personal banks? There must be a lot of money tied up there!
RE: More detailed epass info
I don't believe so... the funds in the VISA portion are frozen and cant even be transferred internally.... Again don't totally blame epass, this is "big brother" at work.
The funds are there in the bank, they are just currently frozen. this is NOT like the bank failures in eastern europe etc. NO ONE has stolen money (at least as far as I know).
The funds are there in the bank, they are just currently frozen. this is NOT like the bank failures in eastern europe etc. NO ONE has stolen money (at least as far as I know).
RE: More detailed epass info
Which money laundering and anit-terrorism laws do you refer to? Are they American laws and VISA is forced to follow them? Is VISA incorporated in the USA? I don't think Epassporte is an American company but maybe I am wrong.
And by the way, if anything, I have found epassporte to be very annoying and overly protective. Obviously, nobody that works for VISA is an epassporte account holder or they would know this.
On two occasions, I needed to send copies of my credit card, proof of address via a copy of a letter sent to me such as a utility bill, and a copy of my ID. I think that I also had to send my credit card statement. I see no reason VISA or anyone else would flag them. Epassporte freezes accounts at even the smallest hint of fraud of any type to the point that they are impossible to deal with. And I think I never loaded or transferred more than $500 at one time.
I once sent a few hundred dollars to a friend and she took some of it out the next day and they froze both our accounts. WTF? This was after my having sent money to her once before without a problem. And even after both of us sent everything but a DNA sample, it took me forever to find someone to get them to reopen our accounts. My friend literally had to open a bank account to prove who she was and where she lived to epassporte.
I really hate them. Even talking to them on the phone today, I had to call several times to try to get an answer. And in terms of understanding them, all I will say that is before anyone ever complains about a chathost's English, call epassporte!
By the way, Epassporte has been having issues with VISA for a long time. They stopped letting people use VISA cards to load money on their accounts over a year ago and said at that time they were working on the problem. Well, they're still working on it, lol, and now things are worse for their customers. It might not be a big conspiracy, but they clearly are not the most competent people in this world. Hopefully, this situation will be resolved fast, but I would not be surprised if it went on for a long time and epassporte simply disappeared, money and all.
Finally, in terms of your list of red flags, that is a pretty broad list. VISA and other companies issue cards specifically for travelling overseas that one loads money onto that would seem to fall into your list. $1000? That is pretty low, and you just shut down one of the american automobile associations (AAA) products in the USA that I find very useful. VISA itself offers such products, lol. Maybe they are trying to eliminate all the competition and distribute things directly to make more money.
And by the way, if anything, I have found epassporte to be very annoying and overly protective. Obviously, nobody that works for VISA is an epassporte account holder or they would know this.
On two occasions, I needed to send copies of my credit card, proof of address via a copy of a letter sent to me such as a utility bill, and a copy of my ID. I think that I also had to send my credit card statement. I see no reason VISA or anyone else would flag them. Epassporte freezes accounts at even the smallest hint of fraud of any type to the point that they are impossible to deal with. And I think I never loaded or transferred more than $500 at one time.
I once sent a few hundred dollars to a friend and she took some of it out the next day and they froze both our accounts. WTF? This was after my having sent money to her once before without a problem. And even after both of us sent everything but a DNA sample, it took me forever to find someone to get them to reopen our accounts. My friend literally had to open a bank account to prove who she was and where she lived to epassporte.
I really hate them. Even talking to them on the phone today, I had to call several times to try to get an answer. And in terms of understanding them, all I will say that is before anyone ever complains about a chathost's English, call epassporte!
By the way, Epassporte has been having issues with VISA for a long time. They stopped letting people use VISA cards to load money on their accounts over a year ago and said at that time they were working on the problem. Well, they're still working on it, lol, and now things are worse for their customers. It might not be a big conspiracy, but they clearly are not the most competent people in this world. Hopefully, this situation will be resolved fast, but I would not be surprised if it went on for a long time and epassporte simply disappeared, money and all.
Finally, in terms of your list of red flags, that is a pretty broad list. VISA and other companies issue cards specifically for travelling overseas that one loads money onto that would seem to fall into your list. $1000? That is pretty low, and you just shut down one of the american automobile associations (AAA) products in the USA that I find very useful. VISA itself offers such products, lol. Maybe they are trying to eliminate all the competition and distribute things directly to make more money.
RE: More detailed epass info
I think you are being unfair to epassporte. Considering what has just happened don't you think their phones might have been a bit busy today so it took some time for them to answer you. It is surely reasonable that they are very cautious about fraud. I have had my own issues with them but generaly found them reasonable to reach a solution. Regarding the legal situation it does not matter whether EPassporte or Visa or the St Kitts Bank are incorporated in the USA or not. The USA tries to apply some laws on a global basis and none of these companies could afford to be prohibited from doing business in the USA. Although there are other preloaded cards the issues with epassporte are likely to be traceability of who is loading them and the fact that they can be issued to someone abroad without the recipient providing any proof of ID. At least one of EPassporte's competitors has some similar problems regarding loading of money. I do not think this is about the competence of EPassporte..If it is to do with the money-laundering and anti terrorism laws I can think of possible ways for epassporte to resolve it but they would take some weeks toimplement.
RE: More detailed epass info
I actually got through on the phone right away each time I called. I was surprised. I guess that it hasn't hit the fan quite yet over there. The problem is how they deal with you after they answer the phone.
Obviously, since terrorism and money laundering is such a big issue, they are not effectively communicating with VISA and the U.S. government about their security procedures which I have found to be wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy over the top for what were very small transactions on two different occasions. Or maybe the real issue is that the are targeting small users like me and letting the problem transactions go through and finally someone had to stop it. I don't know.
Maybe they should have been demanding id from all account users from the outset and let them know that without such id, they cannot use epassporte instead of doing things like freezing accounts AFTER they take your money! Perhaps that would have made them less difficult to deal with and kept the government and VISA happy.
And I don't mean the current freeze. Like I said, they were in the habit of freezing accounts AFTER they got your money and took their fees in the name of security leaving you with two choices: comply or lose your money! F@#k.them!
All I know is that they are EXTREMELY difficult to deal with and unfair to their customers. And I find it interesting that even people not blaming them for this mess keep saying that they too have had problems dealing with Epassporte. That's all anybody needs to know. I feel bad about saying this, and I hope I am wrong since some of my friends cannot now get their money, but I wouldn't be surprised one bit if this situation goes on a long time and is never resolved.
Obviously, since terrorism and money laundering is such a big issue, they are not effectively communicating with VISA and the U.S. government about their security procedures which I have found to be wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy over the top for what were very small transactions on two different occasions. Or maybe the real issue is that the are targeting small users like me and letting the problem transactions go through and finally someone had to stop it. I don't know.
Maybe they should have been demanding id from all account users from the outset and let them know that without such id, they cannot use epassporte instead of doing things like freezing accounts AFTER they take your money! Perhaps that would have made them less difficult to deal with and kept the government and VISA happy.
And I don't mean the current freeze. Like I said, they were in the habit of freezing accounts AFTER they got your money and took their fees in the name of security leaving you with two choices: comply or lose your money! F@#k.them!
All I know is that they are EXTREMELY difficult to deal with and unfair to their customers. And I find it interesting that even people not blaming them for this mess keep saying that they too have had problems dealing with Epassporte. That's all anybody needs to know. I feel bad about saying this, and I hope I am wrong since some of my friends cannot now get their money, but I wouldn't be surprised one bit if this situation goes on a long time and is never resolved.
RE: More detailed epass info
I am guessing you do not regularly send money outside your country as you do not seem to be aware of the checks that are now made and proofs that have to be given. The extent of these has changed dramatically in the five years. You also may not make extensive use of your credit card abroad,or at least not in Eastern Europe, South ast Asia and the Indian subcontinent. I have not had problems dealing with Epassporte. I have had some problems with the EPassporte account which were resolved. I have 4 normal Mastercard credit cards and 3 Visa cards and have sometimes had problems using these too. Overall EPassporte was no worse than any other card company at resolving the problems and was better than some. You seem to be basing your opinion on one bad experience. The point of freezing the account until they are have confirmed ID is to be sure that you and the recipient do not lose your money. You do not say why they froze the account or what the countires.
RE: More detailed epass info
I have had problems on more than one occasion. Each time involved no more than $500 and was to Eastern Europe.
When there is a problem, Epassporte is very secretive and won't explain why. They simply freeze your account and don't give you any explanation other than their "system" detected something. Then they force you to surrender all of your personal information such as your photo id or you cannot get your money back.
You might not find this a big deal, but I do. I transfer money outside of the country by other methods, and the one time I had a problem, the service offered to return my money instead of holding my funds hostage until I complied with their demands. I was not happy that they didn't want the transfer to go through (it eventually did), but at least they were willing to give me my money without forcing me to comply with their demands.
And when trying to solve a problem with Epassporte, they are extremely difficult to deal with. I am still waiting for a post, including from you, that says they never had a problem with Epassporte. Oh wait, I guess that will not happen now since every single customer is now having a problem right now if they hadn't had one in the past, which I doubt!
And for anyone that thinks Epassporte didn't have notice of this issue with visa, I doubt that too. They know the laws and should have been doing what it takes to comply with them. Contrary to epassporte's notice to customers, I doubt that visa just cut them off without warning.
If it was not for all of the people with money frozen, I would be happy that epassporte is going through exactly what they did to me. First, they took my money and then they froze it until I complied with their demands. Visa is doing the same thing. Unfortunately, it is really the customers' money, not epassporte's.
Anyway, however this all turns out, epassporte is soon going to disappear. Nobody will ever trust them again except maybe you, lol.
When there is a problem, Epassporte is very secretive and won't explain why. They simply freeze your account and don't give you any explanation other than their "system" detected something. Then they force you to surrender all of your personal information such as your photo id or you cannot get your money back.
You might not find this a big deal, but I do. I transfer money outside of the country by other methods, and the one time I had a problem, the service offered to return my money instead of holding my funds hostage until I complied with their demands. I was not happy that they didn't want the transfer to go through (it eventually did), but at least they were willing to give me my money without forcing me to comply with their demands.
And when trying to solve a problem with Epassporte, they are extremely difficult to deal with. I am still waiting for a post, including from you, that says they never had a problem with Epassporte. Oh wait, I guess that will not happen now since every single customer is now having a problem right now if they hadn't had one in the past, which I doubt!
And for anyone that thinks Epassporte didn't have notice of this issue with visa, I doubt that too. They know the laws and should have been doing what it takes to comply with them. Contrary to epassporte's notice to customers, I doubt that visa just cut them off without warning.
If it was not for all of the people with money frozen, I would be happy that epassporte is going through exactly what they did to me. First, they took my money and then they froze it until I complied with their demands. Visa is doing the same thing. Unfortunately, it is really the customers' money, not epassporte's.
Anyway, however this all turns out, epassporte is soon going to disappear. Nobody will ever trust them again except maybe you, lol.
RE: More detailed epass info
From what you have said EPassporte were concerned that there was some attempt to make a fraudulant withdrawal. Financial institutions may not give details of why they are suspicious in case this reveals too much about what checks they carry out. They ask for your, and the card holders personal details to try to be sure that you and she are who you say you are and so entttled to give them instructions. The money is frozen until they are sure. Can you not understand they are trying to safeguard your money.
The issues I experienced were not with epassporte themselves but when using the card which resulted in it being blocked. The reasons for the blocking were understandable and epassporte acted quickly to unblock it.
The issues I experienced were not with epassporte themselves but when using the card which resulted in it being blocked. The reasons for the blocking were understandable and epassporte acted quickly to unblock it.
RE: More detailed epass info
If they had given me the option of having the money sent back to me and were easier to deal with, I might not look at them the way that I do now. But I did NOT have that option! They were NOT protecting me from anything. They were NOT protecting my friend from anything. I kept telling them that all was okay with the transfers, and they knew it was me since they ask a lot of questions to verify who the caller is. If they don't want the transfer to go through, then fine.... Undo the transfer and put the money back on my credit card (which is how I loaded money at the time). But do NOT freeze my account and my friend's account until I comply with demands! That is wrong!
And by the way, I had sent money to the person involved before so I have no idea why the first time it was okay and the next it was not other than maybe she withdrew the money faster. But so what? Once the money is there, the whole point is to be able to withdraw it!!!
And by the way, in terms of security measures, epassporte has a policy of allowing a customer to appoint someone to talk about her account. My friend told them that I was allowed to talk about her account. I was cleared to talk about her account. I was cleared to talk about my account. There was no issue with the method I loaded money. Everything was 100% okay. But they still froze the money and forced us both to comply with their demands instead of being willing to return it to me so I could send her the money by another method. And the amount in question was no more than $500. (I think it was less since I had to pay fees to epassporte so I loaded $500 and transferred under $500. That should be flagged???)
They held my funds hostage, pure and simple. All they had to do was return the money to my credit card if they were so worried, just like another service was willing to do. But instead, they held the money hostage until their demands were met. Why don't you get this, and why do you think such action was okay?
You have your view, and I have mine. But it doesn't really matter. Epassporte will never recover from this. The second you come between a person and his money, especially when you are in the money transfer business, you are done! Let's just hope that people get their money back.
And by the way, I had sent money to the person involved before so I have no idea why the first time it was okay and the next it was not other than maybe she withdrew the money faster. But so what? Once the money is there, the whole point is to be able to withdraw it!!!
And by the way, in terms of security measures, epassporte has a policy of allowing a customer to appoint someone to talk about her account. My friend told them that I was allowed to talk about her account. I was cleared to talk about her account. I was cleared to talk about my account. There was no issue with the method I loaded money. Everything was 100% okay. But they still froze the money and forced us both to comply with their demands instead of being willing to return it to me so I could send her the money by another method. And the amount in question was no more than $500. (I think it was less since I had to pay fees to epassporte so I loaded $500 and transferred under $500. That should be flagged???)
They held my funds hostage, pure and simple. All they had to do was return the money to my credit card if they were so worried, just like another service was willing to do. But instead, they held the money hostage until their demands were met. Why don't you get this, and why do you think such action was okay?
You have your view, and I have mine. But it doesn't really matter. Epassporte will never recover from this. The second you come between a person and his money, especially when you are in the money transfer business, you are done! Let's just hope that people get their money back.
RE: More detailed epass info
As you say we are unlikely to agree. Maybe I think the way I do because I have also sent money using Ikobo and the recipient had her account compromised and did lose money. It took a lot of time, many phone calls and submission of various documents as evidence to get the money back. I would have preferred the account to be frozen for a few days.
RE: More detailed epass info
I looked up and saw simular information today but also referencing it more to the banks fault for not conforming to new laws of 2009 to be able to handle this type of account. I feel that the owner was very straight forward with all and will do his best to rectify it as soon as possible.
It is true that mosts account holders left funds in the Visa part of the account so that they could have instant access with the Visa debit card.
It is true that mosts account holders left funds in the Visa part of the account so that they could have instant access with the Visa debit card.
RE: Epassporte - to hosts
Can you explain for us unknowing members what happened? We surely want our beautiful ladies to get their earnings here after all their hard work.
quick expl of epass
Epass is similar to PayP#l. However PP, I don't believe, will do business with "adult" sites.
Most of the sites credit the hosts prepaid type accounts with their earnings. As an example CC pays host X's epassporte account. Host X can then access funds at a local ATM or use the virtual Visa for purchases.
As of today, the hosts have no access to that money they stored in those accounts. They have no access to their earnings and/or savings.
CC has given the hosts other options for payment and is trying to be accommodative to the hosts. They should be commended for this.
I also think people should allow epass to try to work through this if possible, it is not their fault (or at least not entirely). Its this world of big brother we are now living in.
Most of the sites credit the hosts prepaid type accounts with their earnings. As an example CC pays host X's epassporte account. Host X can then access funds at a local ATM or use the virtual Visa for purchases.
As of today, the hosts have no access to that money they stored in those accounts. They have no access to their earnings and/or savings.
CC has given the hosts other options for payment and is trying to be accommodative to the hosts. They should be commended for this.
I also think people should allow epass to try to work through this if possible, it is not their fault (or at least not entirely). Its this world of big brother we are now living in.
RE: Epassporte - to hosts
So why haven't you just opened a traditional banking relationship?
Why didn't you open a new epass account in the new "non controlled" country? (Epass did not make up controlled countries, they are just following laws.)
Don't blame epass for governments changing the rules. If you get your money and this was beyond their control, will people apologize?
(I dont really like epass either, Ive had my own problems with them. However, this is not of their doing)
Why didn't you open a new epass account in the new "non controlled" country? (Epass did not make up controlled countries, they are just following laws.)
Don't blame epass for governments changing the rules. If you get your money and this was beyond their control, will people apologize?
(I dont really like epass either, Ive had my own problems with them. However, this is not of their doing)
RE: Epassporte - to hosts
What are the other options? Can cc deposit directly into foreign bank accounts? Would hate to not have any hosts online if it's difficult to impossible for hosts to get their money.
RE: Epassporte - to hosts
They can wire the money to bank accounts but there is a charge. This has been an option for a long time, including before epassporte was being used on CC. I believe CC is waiving the charge for the next 3 pay periods to try to help hosts out.
I am not sure, but perhaps receiving a physical check is also an option, but that can take a long time to receive and process. I am talking about several weeks from the time a check is mailed until the check funds are actually available after it is deposited. I know that one site used Western Union.
There are other options, but epassporte was best for most hosts since they don't usually have bank accounts or if they do, don't want the money appearing in their accounts.
I am not sure, but perhaps receiving a physical check is also an option, but that can take a long time to receive and process. I am talking about several weeks from the time a check is mailed until the check funds are actually available after it is deposited. I know that one site used Western Union.
There are other options, but epassporte was best for most hosts since they don't usually have bank accounts or if they do, don't want the money appearing in their accounts.
cc so care about us.
i think cc its safer than any bank case. they so care about us. i feel that with cc my money is safer than in any bank... thank u cc!
ps: think epassporte just sent us all in hell.. xxx
ps: think epassporte just sent us all in hell.. xxx
RE: cc so care about us.
Epass is not and has never said it was a bank.
" ePassporte sells pre-paid Virtual Visa and Visa Electron products to online consumers and offers a proprietary peer-to-peer network connecting businesses and individuals worldwide via the Internet. "
" ePassporte sells pre-paid Virtual Visa and Visa Electron products to online consumers and offers a proprietary peer-to-peer network connecting businesses and individuals worldwide via the Internet. "
Do you hosts expect your viewer to have his cam on when he enters video?
I sometimes get that feeling with some hosts, not all but a pretty fair number. Did it ever occur to you that the member is paying and maybe his privacy is important to him?
RE: Do you hosts expect your viewer to have his cam on when he enters video?
I sometimes get the feeling that some people don't visit CC with the intention of wanting enjoyment and are always looking for things to whinge about!
RE: Do you hosts expect your viewer to have his cam on when he enters video?
i just ask do u have cam or no. if yes im happy if no the ok too
RE: Do you hosts expect your viewer to have his cam on when he enters video?
Is it such a big problem? Just say you have no cam and thats all. Pfff....
RE: Do you hosts expect your viewer to have his cam on when he enters video?
Several hosts demanded that I have a cam, and that I have it on. Then I get blocked because I don't want to use it
RE: Do you hosts expect your viewer to have his cam on when he enters video?
oh please, just move on and find host who smart enough not demand it from you. :)
RE: Do you hosts expect your viewer to have his cam on when he enters video?
Where do you viewers fins these hosts ? In all my years here I have never had a host demand that I put a cam on.
RE: Do you hosts expect your viewer to have his cam on when he enters video?
Thats coz they know better(scared)
RE: Do you hosts expect your viewer to have his cam on when he enters video?
I've had 2 including one in not shy while I was in video. She said no cam no show. The other was in free chat.
RE: Do you hosts expect your viewer to have his cam on when he enters video?
to have cams anymore and they usually like to share. So it is not a ridiculous question. Why take it so personal?
RE: Do you hosts expect your viewer to have his cam on when he enters video?
my thoughts on this!!!
i hate being on cam i am 45 and ugly i know this.
I come her to see hot women because i had to settle with a not so hot women, i hope she don't read this
But i hate when a host offers a show only if you have cam this kill me.
I have a old cam thrown somewhere at home but normally only on cc when i am on business trips so if host offers only shows if have cam it leaves a lot of hosts out of my list
i hate being on cam i am 45 and ugly i know this.
I come her to see hot women because i had to settle with a not so hot women, i hope she don't read this
But i hate when a host offers a show only if you have cam this kill me.
I have a old cam thrown somewhere at home but normally only on cc when i am on business trips so if host offers only shows if have cam it leaves a lot of hosts out of my list
RE: Do you hosts expect your viewer to have his cam on when he enters video?
the object is to get a sexy show and showing my ugly ass will most defiantly ruin the mood
RE: Do you hosts expect your viewer to have his cam on when he enters video?
to chat with yes to see is something else
RE: Do you hosts expect your viewer to have his cam on when he enters video?
I am surprised that any host would not video with you if you do not have cam on but there are many hosts that it doesn't matter.....so keep searching. It is like with any problem on here....just move on to the next host. There is something for everyone :))
RE: Do you hosts expect your viewer to have his cam on when he enters video?
Cam to cam came about due to viewer/customer demand. It is his decision to use it or not use it. It is not under the control of the host. It is there for the viewer and NOT the host. If you feel the need to watch a guy wank on cam, get a member account and go see Boys Home Alone.
RE: Do you hosts expect your viewer to have his cam on when he enters video?
You block viewers who not show their cam? You are so busy you can turn away viewers that prefer to remain anonymous?
RE: Do you hosts expect your viewer to have his cam on when he enters video?
Only viewers with bad sarcastic attitudes will get blocked like yours :)
I don't demand cam from members and I doubt so many hosts do either.
I don't demand cam from members and I doubt so many hosts do either.
RE: Do you hosts expect your viewer to have his cam on when he enters video?
It is common and many do automatically so if he not do on his own he not want to do it. So stop asking and just do your job
RE: Do you hosts expect your viewer to have his cam on when he enters video?
I don't mind sending cam but I normally only do it if the hosts ask for it. Therefore I like it when the host asks. I know some hosts who definitely do not like to see the member and two or three who only do a full show when the members sends cam. Most hosts seem to like it when the member sends cam but are not bothered if he doesn't.
RE: Do you hosts expect your viewer to have his cam on when he enters video?
Yes I know of what you speak. They are worried they are being recorded and will wind up somewhere on line where they do not want to be
RE: Do you hosts expect your viewer to have his cam on when he enters video?
hard to understand why this is allowed.
RE: im upset!!!
If he is a loser, send him to me and I will out him on his place...
xoxoxoxo
xoxoxoxo
RE: im upset!!!
No host in instant action is as high as your price. You charge $4 just to chat? WTF?
RE: im upset!!!
Didn't sound like that to me. So why would she tell the story without telling her rate......so the guy has no defense....lol.
RE: im upset!!!
With "comprehension" skills like yours, is no wonder you are always so disilusioned!
RE: im upset!!!
I had the same in glamour! And many times. They just left you without bye, I don't pay attention at them anymore...forget about them in some mins as they away from my video and wait for normal guys who don't care so much about some extra $ :-)
RE: im upset!!!
Sorry, but keep dreaming it's for members..lol .we just keep working and make men happy.
RE: im upset!!!
someone can only lie about a matter of fact.clearly this is an opinion,judgement call.you have no idea what glamhost"s opinion is,so you calling her a liar........
RE: im upset!!!
Have no idea whats rug is, but i say what i think. But why you get so mad about it? Any problems? Nobody like you? :))
walt disney
during a password audit,it was found that a blonde was using the following password: "mickeyminnieplutohueylouiedeweydonaldgoofylondon".
asked why she had such a long password,she said she was told that it had to be at least 8 characters long & had to include at least one capital :--)
asked why she had such a long password,she said she was told that it had to be at least 8 characters long & had to include at least one capital :--)
What good is "Country" when...?
Why bother having "Country" listed when hosts can just put "Just Ask Me" and only a bar minority actually list their country there. Might as well just remove that from the template, eh?
RE: What good is "Country" when...?
no. usually hosts from usa, uk, and west europe prefer to show their countries as it brings them many viewers....guys always have hopes to meet up with hosts in real life. lol
RE: What good is "Country" when...?
but in our dreams(fantasies) we meet up with even more hosts & get even more sex :--)
RE: What good is "Country" when...?
Yes tisme. There are only 3 female hosts I haven't met and had sex with from this site :P
RE: What good is "Country" when...?
let me guess inyf.the 3 are,the sighted,the hearing & those with sense of smell? :--)
RE: What good is "Country" when...?
i've tried to book a ticket to visit this country"jam"but i only end up getting in a pickle :--)
RE: What good is "Country" when...?
It used to be most would falsely list the US and UK when they were actually in eastern europe to increase traffic to their rooms.