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Squirting

ok girls, tell us yr secrets. I have never been with a real girl that squirts when she cums. Very wet yes, but not squirting. I do not doubt some girls do. But here I have seen both clear squirt (looks like pee) and creamy squirt (looks like lotion). First, is the clear stuff pee being squirted by contractions? Or is it other fluid? Second, I know some of the creamy girls are fakes (cream in cream out) but at least one seems very real.
I want to be educated girls. Cure my ignorance please.
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The creamy white discharge might be thrush..... yuk! lol

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I HATE FAKE SQUIRT!!!!!

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What do you mean by damaged? I doubt nearly all can. Only a small percentage of women can squirt.

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RE: Squirting

I like yr style and yr knowledge! Might have to visit you!

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you think it's just pee? You have a lot to learn about female physiology, as well as about this amazing aspect of female ejaculation.

btw, have you ever tried to pee in the middle of an orgasm?

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RE: Squirting

If you are such an expert on the human anatomy, could you explain where the not insubstantial amount of liquid which can be released in a "squirt" is to be found in the body prior to the "squirt". I assume it isn't spontaneously created from nothing, that would be magic!

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RE: Squirting

I believe Porn Star to be entirely correct in her assertions. But, we must not confuse the real female ejaculation (involving a relatively small amount of liquid) with what is usually seen in movies, which is sometimes pee and sometimes water that has been introduced into the vagina via douche or similar method, then ejected with a strong muscle contraction during the fake orgasm scene. If you see a steam of liquid that seems like it is a litre or more shooting across the room like old faithful, that's fake.

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RE: Squirting

She herself uses the word "gush" which implies a reasonably large volume, so my question remains valid

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I have come to know a certain host on another site quite well both on and offsite. Her squirts are real, they are voluminous, they are multiple, they are not fake, pee, water injected by douche or any other such method. Where it comes from, or how it is produced, I do not know, have not researched, and don't really care.

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CC thread analysis

After reading many treads here I have concluded the following: Romanian hosts in glamour probably have a bf/husband, many have children, lie about it for fake romance roleplaying so they can get more members money, gifts to break hearts in the end, wont strip and do their dildo show until 121 hits the 30 minute mark after 30 minutes in open talking about how they refuse to get naked they "are not that kind of girl here" so their video playbacks are overpriced and suck! Did I forget anything? Oh yea, members all know this but keep paying to be lied too because they believe they are the one who win finally win a Romanian woman's heart!
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either you're picking the wrong girls, or maybe its just you. try brushing your teeth that always helps.

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whats your point? lol

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RE: CC thread analysis

there are 3 main trains of thought here,
1) the members who fall in love, buy gifts and get hearts broke
2) the members who criticise those who fall in love
3) the members who don't care and come here for fun,
why is this such a huge issue for so many members? The chathosts are not here for romance, how is this a complicated concept?

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RE: CC thread analysis

Dunno what the problem is, both of my girlfriends are Romanian, their both fabulous, gorgeous, smart and sexy. Their language skills are amongst the finest (you can rarely tell they're not native in english).
Both are fun and properly amusing, both go far beyond their categories without any hesitation (maybe not for everyone though ;)) They're wonderful, 120%.
Honestly, as far as women go.... I'd say Romanian chicks are probably the best.. Not just online either.

That said... i wouldn't trust either of them as far as i could throw them though!! haha :D

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RE: CC thread analysis

Seems like everyone has had a sense of humour failure.

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Hahahahaha this definately made my day :P To ones who do not really understand what is this about chect the thread called "Sorry, thomasS77 -- but you're WRONG"

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I don't think by your previous comments that all have wondered whether you are a host or a member. Your comments are all over. This comment shouldn't surprise anyone either. Little credibility.

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"LOL"

Absolutely :) ..... at you, not with you ;) haha

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Totally agree from the long term posts here....and what has been said behind the scenes from those hosts.

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RE: CC thread analysis(or my impressions)

either you're very misguided,your sense of humour is polar to mine,your cheek isn't big enough for your tongue,you're a troll or a lonely person crying out for attention(or any combination of the aforementioned).ohh sorry,one more option,you're more astute & observant than i give you credit for :--)

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RE: CC thread analysis

I've banged three romanian hosts. All three very nice girls and one I still keep in touch with and see from time to time. And she knows I'm not interested in marriage. Just keep it at the "friends with benefits" level. Makes life simpler. All this talk of "love"is, well... entertaining but not very realistic (generally). Buy, hey, whatever floats one's boat.

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Suggestions

It would be ice to have a "Wishlist" posted by members and only shown to hosts. A member could list a with or wishes as to what kind of host he likes, blonde, brunette, redhead, tall, short, big boobs, small boobs etc. And then could describe what kind of show,chat, roleplay or whatever he had in mind.. Then any interested hosts could contact him via CC Mail and set up a meet.
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RE: Men, help me choose a gift, please :)

Maybe a small photo album of your favorite pictures from your life...pictures that explain who you are and where you came from.

Maybe tickets to something he would like to see...sports, concert, movie, etc. You get to go with him and enjoy them too.

Dinner...is always a nice gift....and desert afterwards might be the best gift of all...

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RE: Men, help me choose a gift, please :)

Best gift for a man? A nice steak dinner and a blow job afterward.. You will own him...

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Boys!, she said she hasnt met him face to face......chances are she's mailing it

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You can mail a blow job...what a country!!!

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RE: Men, help me choose a gift, please :)

im easy to please maria..just ask me what i want..lol

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RE: Men, help me choose a gift, please :)

A video of you pulling a train with 5 or 6 well hung black studs

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RE: Men, help me choose a gift, please :)

You

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RE: Men, help me choose a gift, please :)

take a pic of you wearing nothing but a sexy pair of panties - wear them for a day, then mail the dirty panties and the pic to hm ;)

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Ahh , what an idea. He can make a broth using the undies. Nothing like a warm bowl of "Panty Soup." :) Oh Yeah...

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RE: Men, help me choose a gift, please :)

I'd be happy to make some suggestions, Maria. But I had 2 questions, since that will help determine "what" I might suggest.

1) You said you've never met face-to-face. So is this a gift that you're planning to mail to him ...OR...are you planning to finally meet him, and you'll be giving him the gift in person?

2) In terms of the signal you'll be sending, do you want the gift to be only from a "friend"...OR...is it meant to be a romantic gift, to let him know you really like him?

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RE: Men, help me choose a gift, please :)

I'm not sure if a bottle of drink is suitable. Even assuming it survives being posted (and it has a long journey to go?) once it is drunk the gift is effectively finished and forgotten. You want to give something more enduring. But I can understand your train of thought in proposing the national drink, so why not something else that represents your country, but will be kept by the recipient as a permanent ornament, conversation piece etc.

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RE: Men, help me choose a gift, please :)

only you

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RE: Men, help me choose a gift, please :)

what exactly only you will know but as long as it's from your heart with no expectations,if he is as true as you are,the actually gift is secondary :--)

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Host tactics

glam host lives with bf has child acts like virgin offended to be nude never asks for money this leads to getting more money longer 121 pvts
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RE: Host tactics

Add some punctuation and your posting might actually have some sense (though I doubt it) but, for now, is a little too soon to tell.

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RE: Host tactics

the hosts provide a customer service, that means if you want to see the hosts, you pay, they tell you what you want to hear. Do you think they come here to meet new people and find romance?
I'm sure most of the hosts are nice people, but they are people and need to earn money, making friend with members maybe a nice addition but it's not why they are here. If you want to find a lover, sign up to a dating website, it'll be cheaper and is probably better geared for what you are searching for.
Although some hosts maybe single, it is also possible many are not, some will even have children, so don't complain if they lie to you, that is what you are paying them for.

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+1000

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Hosts are not requiring honesty from members, we all know how a married guy will say he is single while the single one will say he is married because guys don.t want "problems" from a host, lol

The mission of a host is to provide u a fantasy, not to share her real life with u , it.s a service u know?

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agree

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I'm in glam, but don't have bf, that was maybe other reasons.

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I've read your comment over a few times and I really can't see what you're getting your panties in a bunch about.

Is it the fact that she has a child and a bf but is too shy to show you her nude body? Just because she has had sex and a child with someone she loves doesn't automatically mean she wants to show her nude body to strangers from around the World you know? You've probably had sex (although maybe not...) but that doesn't mean you want to beam naked pictures of yourself all over the planet does it?

She's in Glamour for a reason and that reason seems to be that she is shy. I really see no 'host tactics' here at all.

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if you're talking about the model i think you are talking about, then you may find she is actually married to her then b/f. Congratulations i say, won't stop me talking to her!

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Why would you care about the girl's personal life? In general you are here to see something sexual and masturbate. Not a dating site. And the job of a host is 1.) Get you to video 2.)Keep you in video. 3.) See 1 & 2....you can argue that a host should also be looking to establish a "relationship" with her regulars to keep them coming back. That is why it is called in business "relationship marketing". Bottom line she gets your money and you get a dirty kleenex...not throw it out and grow up.

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Reading this post is like having a frontal lobotomy.

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Are there many girls here for any other reason than to make money?

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whats her screenname?

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Some little known facts? about famous creative people :)

Unpublished works:
John Steinbeck had a great interest in German porcelain figurines. Unfortunately his definitive book on the subject "Of Meissen Men" was rejected by his publisher.

Also rejected was John Osbourne's collection of whimsical reminiscences on seaside towns in Ireland and North Wales "Look Back in Bangor"

Destiny's Child may have been from the 'hood but they were ready to discuss innovative methods of plucking geese. "Girl I didn't know you could get down like that, Charley how d'ya angels get down like that?"
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The irony ... lol :D

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RE: Thanks for CamContacts...

You love it so much you would do it for free if you had too....

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Of course not!
Making money is the best bit :)

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Sorry, thomasS77 -- but you're WRONG

When it comes to me sending some presents to a Romanian host that I know -- guess what, Thomas? I DID read the "all about money" topic. And you're right -- that COULD be me in a few months. In fact, odds are pretty damn good it will be me. Because this host that I'm sending presents to...guess what? She does have a Romanian boyfriend. That's right -- I'm stupidly sending presents to a girl with a BF. You see, me and this host have been close for some time. And right now, she's torn. She's trying to decide IF she should stay with him and IF she should stay in Romania and the life she knows...just accept a certain way of living...

…OR should she take a chance on me. On a new romance and all-new life. Right now she's trying to decide IF she should visit, so we can find out what it would be like to kiss each other for real. Or sit in a restaurant and talk the night away… or hold hands in a movie… or watch sunsets on the beach together. Which is how you REALLY decide if you're in love. Because you're right, Thomas -- most of the romantic talk in this virtual world is bullsh*t. Every day, lots of hosts play guys for suckers. And every day, lots of guys play the hosts too. In fact, when you think about it…and weigh the actual odds working against you...a host and guest falling for each is a pretty f*cked up way to start a romance. Because Heaven knows you'll have A LOT of hurdles to jump.

But I don't care. Because I believe in love and most important, I believe IN HER. When we talk on cam or Yahoo or trade emails or text messages or on the phone, I can tell our feelings are real. So here's a news flash, Thomas -- NOT every host is an evil, money chasing, manipulative bitch. There ARE good women here, probably more than you realize. And NOT every guy here is sex crazed and only interested in rubbing his dick. There are nice guys here too. So if you want to be a bitter sour puss, be my guest. Me, I'm gonna move Heaven and Earth to FIGHT for the woman I love. And if I don't win, at least I can say I gave it my all.

And if I do win? If I get her to realize she should be with me (which she should)? Well, then I'm gonna be the happiest man alive because THIS is the woman I want to love, honor and cherish and dedicate the rest of my life to making happy. Because I know MY girl really is just that special.
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OR..she's amazing at making u believe she really is thinking about leaving her bf and coming to live with u when in reality she has no plans to do so...in which case...tommy is right and ur a fool....did u ever think about that one? ;)

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good one imshy :)))

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as he said he knows she may decide to stay with her existing bf, (which is the same outcome whether she's lying to him or not) i guess he knows he may be making a fool of himself but that's what many people do when their hopelessly in love, i guess you wouldn't know that.

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RE: Sorry, thomasS77 -- but you're WRONG

i've NEVER had to pay per minute to see and talk to someone i'm in love with....i guess YOU wouldnt know about that either huh?

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RE: Sorry, thomasS77 -- but you're WRONG

You need to work on your reading comprehension skills. You said that you've never had to pay a "per minute fee" to talk to someone you're in love with, but going by In Love's post neither has he. You seem to have conveniently skipped the part of his post where he specifically stated they stay in touch away from this site on Yahoo, trading emails, text messages, and even talking directly on the telephone. I highly doubt that he's paying her for those things. So it sounds like they're staying in touch the way two lovers genuinely would. That means you're "per minute fee" point is instantly rendered pointless.

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RE: Sorry, thomasS77 -- but you're WRONG

beyourself ?

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He obviously paid at the start when he was getting to know her, same as most people pay in some way or other on dates when they first get to know someone and after that he said he was chatting with her in yahoo, phone and email. You want to try getting off your high horse and stop thinking your god almighty.
btw how did you pay for your hookers?

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didnt have to pay for my hookers....my friend did it for me ;)

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Ok so u have never paid per min to talk to your mom, YO THE MAAAN !!!

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yeah i am....also didnt have to pay per min for ur mum and ur granny too...im so awesome :D

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Are you a Romanian host too?

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That is an interesting point, host2. It's true that most hosts who have real life boyfriends will say they are single to create an online fantasy, so guests will be more attracted to them and become steady customers. But it never occurred to me that a host might do the exact opposite and say she has a boyfriend, when in reality she is single. As you said, to test a man out and to see if he's actually willing to put up a fight for her and to prove his feelings. That would be sneaky and cunning, but it would also be a brilliant chess move on the part of the host.

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RE: Sorry, thomasS77 -- but you're WRONG

I question that many hosts have that strategy, honestly!!

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i didnt say i do know anything...i just gave my opinion on the other side...seems like my comment hit a nerve with u

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RE: Sorry, thomasS77 -- but you're WRONG

<< Also, if she is happy with her boyfriend then she couldn't be in love with him. >>

Since I've been in this situation myself, I know its possible to love two people at once. So the story In Love is telling rings true to me. Been there, done that. Besides, what makes you so sure she's happy with her BF? If she's having an affair with In Love and is now thinking of visiting him, it sounds as if she's NOT happy with him. If anything, it sounds like her heart is torn between two men just as he described.

<< Possible he is obsessed with her and this not what she wants. >>

If he could only talk to her at CC...by paying for her time and cornering her in chat sessions...that might be true. But since she's staying in touch with him off site, on her own free time, it seems pretty obvious that she's more than a willing partner in this.

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or a damned good marketer!

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RE: Sorry, thomasS77 -- but you're WRONG

imshy and thomas .. the saddest of all!!!
Follow your heart!
I left my ex to marry my husband whom I met on a cam site. 5 years together so far and happier than ever!

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RE: Sorry, thomasS77 -- but you're WRONG

Seems to me that the guy has fallen in love. It may work it may not. However your need so sneer at & ridicule the guy is a measure of who & what you are, if I elaborate on this point cc will not publish the comment.

ILWAR
1, Are you entering paid vid chat with her? If yes, ask yourself if the relationship would continue if you ceased paid vid chat & be honest with yourself.


2, Does she offer to open her cam on yahoo? A guy far more experienced than I once suggested that if a host opens her cam on yahoo she is serious about you.

3 Have you met her yet ? If not get your ass on a plane to romania asap coz she has probably had many guys fall in love with her online & tell her exactly whatt you tell her

Re thomas & im shy
they are both leading members of the comm chat mafia & they have both endured the same initiation ritual which involves a tube of toothpaste, ice cubes, a blow up doll & a vow during which they must swear upon a copy of penthouse that they have no friends in the real world & will spend all their spare time being rude to people in comm chat EG they like to piss on people fires, I wonder why??

I hope it works out for u

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RE: Sorry, thomasS77 -- but you're WRONG

u forgot the 14inch cucumber in the ass with no lube ;)

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Please refer to lied too - all about the money post before you send anything else. Lets recap she lives with her BF? They probably have a child too but you wont find that out just yet. She charges you for pvt's but says she feels guilty but you insist as she needs money. Sound about right? She uses this same role play on many its just you got a little more info because she slipped and told you and bf/husband. She was testing you too see just how much she could get out of you and from sound of it you dove in wallet and heart first ... 6 months from now you will be posting "sucker born every min " if I was you Id get it over with quick transfer all your assets to her name now and be done with it ...Thomas you are right!!

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RE: Sorry, thomasS77 -- but you're WRONG

why don't you leave the man enjoy his fling? just bc you had bad experiences with models here, doesnt mean he will too. and just because she has a bf.. does that mean she will never be with him? havent you guys heard of ppl breaking up before? how can you be so cinical? if you can't help the guy, why make him worry for maybe no reason at all? the girl was honest with him afterall. and i have been through the same situation... and it wasn't easy for sure, but eventualy i did left my bf to be with a guy i met online. it didn't worked out, but that's a whole different story. either way.. why can't you just let the guy enjoy what he has and give advices nobody asked. keep it up dude.. it might work out.. or not.. but at least you know you tryed .. and thats already better then to wonder what woud have been like. if you are in love with her already, theres nothing else u can do but follow your heart and hope for the best . good luck man and don't let the haters get you down!

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RE: Sorry, thomasS77 -- but you're WRONG

well all I can say I been there in the same situation, she did leave her bf-and I move there and stay with her 6 months until I got to missing by life back here in the states, so I moved back on my own-so it does work sending gifts, and so on, and now we both are back on cc-seeing each other again with no regrets. So to all you studs here at cc think you know it all and give advice which is your opinion is ok to give, but from someone who had done this for 3 years it has work before. To the original poster all I can say is follow your heart and mind and don't put to much faith in other members and host here telling you it don't work.

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RE: Sorry, thomasS77 -- but you're WRONG

All the stories start like he is saying and end the same especially with hosts from that country. He has been fair warned for a reason....the end ing is posted here weekly in fact on this page down a few posts.....that's good enough reason for all to say the same thing.

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RE: Sorry, thomasS77 -- but you're WRONG

Follow your heart "In love with a Romanian" . It's there inside of you to know what feels right !! Some say Love is blind, but in reality you already realize that she is torn and may not choose you. That tells me your heart will continue to take the risk of losing her but please also be patient with her if she needs. Time will always wait for "True Love"....it has no limits, no boundaries...and can only always grow stronger !! I wish you good luck !! full of strength, peace, and happiness come what may !!

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I think you are definitely headed in the wrong direction...you've brought the subject up many times and got all the warnings and you still refuse to see the odds are against you especially from a certain country where it appears from birth girls are trained to take advantage and are great actresses. Guess missed "All about money" posts below. I am sure that you are no more special than the man that I know that got taken by a woman in Romania for $100k . Can hardly bark at anyone reply to you until you have a success story after a few years. You put it out there and you've been warned.

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RE: Sorry, thomasS77 -- but you're WRONG

Would you mind repeating that? .. I missed it..

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I wish you good luck and hope it works out for you! Nothing ventured, nothing gained! you seem to have you eyes open but still want to give it a go - same as me :-) I hope to read another post in the future saying 'up yours' to the negative sods here! Good Luck!
In my experience, all gifts are ok. Occasionally one may 'disappear' but generally its ok.
Keep fighting!

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RE: Sorry, thomasS77 -- but you're WRONG

Damn, Thom, you really kicked off a storm here..

Yes, I was taken in by a host a few years ago, but fortunately, I got out of it relatively lightly: a couple hundred bucks. I don't fault any other host because of what this one did; just her. It has, however, made me more cautious.

So, "In Love," good luck brother, but keep your eyes open and trust your instincts. If it works out, great, and congratulations!!

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RE: Sorry, thomasS77 -- but you're WRONG

i know of a few that have been burned by a certan romanian host who works on this site, amongst others. i talked to her on yahoo, and she shamelessly talked about how she played them and the amount of money she extracted from them.

the OP seems like another one who fits the pattern. it could very well be the same host i mentioned.

good luck to you.

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RE: Sorry, thomasS77 -- but you're WRONG

There are many here... are the majority hosts? who want to believe in the possibilities of romance. There are many others who want to crush anyone's belief that this can be possible here.

I don't know if you thought you were going to change anyone's thinking, or if you are just angry and insecure. The odds are heavily stacked against you, in all probability, but it depends on each person's situation. Blanket statements of what's right and wrong just don't work here.

I am involved with a Romanian host, and both our situations are difficult right now. I don't know where we will end up. But we profess love for each other, we talk as often as possible (never in a paid session), and I know as much about her life as I know anyone's, except we have never met in person. We hope to meet soon. She is beautiful, kind, and sweet to me, and I trust her implicitly.

If we never do meet, because the obstacles are many, I may still consider her to be the love of my life. She makes my steps lighter, even as my thoughts for her keep me awake at night. We share dreams of being together.

All I can say to those of you who have lost your sense of what passionate love is about, I am sorry for your loss. I have never felt so alive, and to the end of my days I will not regret how I feel now.

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RE: Sorry, thomasS77 -- but you're WRONG

All I will say to the OP is good luck! It can work between members and hosts sometimes, but you just have to keep your eyes open.

My fiancee is a host and we met here, so I can tell you from personal experience that it does work sometimes, but it's been a very long and hard journey to get where we are today. We've been together about three and a half years now and when we met neither of us was looking for a relationship. It just kind of happened and over the months and years we grew closer and closer until we could not be apart.

So here's a list of a few things to look out for that happened while our relationship was developing, hope it helps.

1. As soon as we realised that we were becoming more than just friends she completely refused to allow me into a paid video with her. All of our chat (text, video and audio) took place outside of CC. Her choice, not mine.

2. I'm lucky enough to work for myself and I sit at my computer most of the day. So we ended up chatting all day everyday (and I mean everyday!) while we both worked.

3. When either of us were not at our computers we constantly SMSed each other and we always knew what was going on in each other's lives.

4. She never accepted money from me. EVER. Even when I knew she needed cash and I offered to send her some she refused. She said she didn't want to be accused of being 'one of those girls'. I still sent her small gifts though, just little surprises here and there, nothing very expensive.

5. When we finally decided to meet up and she came here she insisted on paying her way. Obviously I took her out and treated her to gifts etc. but only the way I would any girlfriend. When it came to flights and visas she insisted on paying.

6. When I first visited her she had no problems introducing me to all her friends and we also spent a long weekend staying with her parents. I know all her family and she knows all of mine. I have never been a secret from her friends and family and she's never been one from mine.

So here we are a few years down the line and we're planning our wedding. Over the years we've both spent a small fortune on flights and visas (I need a visa to visit her too!), but the important thing is that it is and always has been an equal partnership.

So if the OP can look through the above points and say that these things are also true for his relationship, I wish him all the luck in the World. If not then be a wary, but remember that it still may come with time.

I think my biggest bit of advice would be to take your time and make sure everything is right. It's not a race and if it's meant to be it will happen, no matter how hard it is. Remember this could be for the rest of your life, so a few years of hard slog now will be more than worth it. Good luck!

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RE: Sorry, thomasS77 -- but you're WRONG

I take back my 100% host lie comment your host/gf is allowed that 1 exception but I don't want to open a window that everyone who thinks they are in love here to crawl through your gf did all the right things which were "never mix money and love" no matter what it kills romance so maybe a standard might be if you are paying her anything (exception being a normal gf type gift at Christmas or her birthday) then alarms bells should be ringing " CAUTION " congrats to a real success story!! THOMAS you are still right

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RE: Sorry, thomasS77 -- but you're WRONG

What I can tell you that it doesnt matter what country your woman comes from, there are scammers out there that LIVE for guys like us. Yeah maybe it works for some, and for many it does not. It is just too easy when the distances are so great. I just recently found out that someone who I had been involved with for 4+ years and countless gifts and western union transfers is married! Yes, married, in the time that I have known her. That didnt stop her (and still hasn't) from asking for money and when I have all the facts I will drop the bomb. Daily phone calls, countless conversations on messenger, emails, etc., and the bottom line is you JUST DONT KNOW. Are there good people out there yet? I hope so, but this particular one in Romania...I hope she gets what is coming to her someday some way.

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she married him in September...2010....

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RE: Sorry, thomasS77 -- but you're WRONG

back to 121 bb! muuuuaaahhhh!

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RE: Sorry, thomasS77 -- but you're WRONG

I have always been of the opinion, that if you need to broadcast about your love and relationship in the forums, then the relationship is more about you, and having your emotional needs met, than it is about the person you claim to be in love with.

Maybe i'm not romantic enough. Maybe I've never been so much in love that I can't keep quiet about it. But when I'm in love, I tell those who are closest to me and who matter to me about it. I don't walk through the streets shouting I"M IN LOVE! SHE LOVES ME!

I'm sorry, but your words only convince me of either your insincerity or your delusion.

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RE: Sorry, thomasS77 -- but you're WRONG

You were right about one thing in your post:
You're NOT romantic enough!!!

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RE: Sorry, thomasS77 -- but you're WRONG

Well, I would say I'm right about a few other things in my post as well ;)

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RE: Sorry, thomasS77 -- but you're WRONG

I totally agree with you on that point. I am very romantic and still I do not have the need to tell all....it is a personal thing and not needing anyone else to approve or disapprove especially when you want all to agree with you. The same person has posted here several times getting others opinions and still wants support in his decision. That is insecure from my perspective.

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RE: Sorry, thomasS77 -- but you're WRONG

Just because you like to keep your feelings quiet doesn't mean others can't talk about their love out loud. One way isn't right and the other wrong. There's nothing insecure about that. It's just 2 different ways of expressing yourself. You're being judgmental. What they do doesn't affect you. Let them have their happiness. Live and let live and to each their own.

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RE: Sorry, thomasS77 -- but you're WRONG

While I do agree with you, generally, in this case perhaps our Ro Lover "doth protest too much, methinks" as the Bard said. It's as if Ro Lover has to convince himself there's something more to his Romanian relationship than smoke and mirrors.

Of course I could be wrong, and I hope I am. But I think that's what some of us are perceiving.

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It is all about a mutually beneficial commercial relationship

The host provides a service to customers like me. If the service is worthwhile and reasonably priced, the relationship continues. Some times we become friends. I do not ask for free services, but occasionally a few hosts have given me free shows.
My business is the same. I am a construction supervisor, or owners rep. I get paid for services. Sometimes I become friend with my clients. I even dated one. For a good customer, I do some work at no charge. But only a few cheap jerks asked me to work for free.
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RE: It is all about a mutually beneficial commercial relationship

Amen brother

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Question for the ROMANIAN hosts...

A question for any Romanian hosts. I want to send some presents to a special someone. So from any of you ladies who've gotten packages before (particularly from the States) is it okay...or NOT okay...to send jewelry? Will Romanian customs let jewelry through? I thought I read online somewhere that Romanian customs doesn't like guys (like me) sending jewelry to girls because Romania doesn't like jewelry coming from out of country, in order to prop up its own economy. Which seems silly to me since I'm simply sending presents, but whatever. Far be it for me to start an international incident!

And what about candy? Are boxes of candy okay to send or will Romanian customs treat it as "food" that has to be quarantined for a period of time (or some silly such thing). My point being that I DON'T want customs to hold my entire box of presents up over a simple box of candy. As for everything else I'll be sending, I know the rest of my presents are okay -- I'm just wondering about these two things.

Uh...and if a certain someone is reading this, that's not to say I'm sending jewelry or candy! So stop reading and look the other way! Shush! Scram! Move along! Pay no attention to what I wrote!
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RE: Question for the ROMANIAN hosts...

read the post all about money before you send anything, or in a few months you will be writing the same thing about her using you. ask the host about how to get gifts from members , im sure she gets them all the time from other "boyfriends".

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RE: Question for the ROMANIAN hosts...

thom you're a romanian host?!?! damn that explains a lot....but leaves a lot still to be answered :--)

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RE: Question for the ROMANIAN hosts...

tis im not really a romanian host , im just hoping to get a few free gifts .

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RE: Question for the ROMANIAN hosts...

great answer thomasS77

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RE: Question for the ROMANIAN hosts...

Gee, the poor guy asks for a little help and you have to give him some smartass answer with little to do with what he asked in the first place. Why bother posting such drivel? Oh I forgot, you are the all knowing of this site and have extreme knowledge of everything and everyone of the hosts here and know what\'s best for everyone. Silly me.

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RE: Question for the ROMANIAN hosts...

did you help him with what you said ?

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RE: Question for the ROMANIAN hosts...

I can see where you would ask that but no, I did not answer because I have no knowledge about sending things overseas hence why there is no information from me.

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RE: Question for the ROMANIAN hosts...

come on sillyme , grow some balls and use your member name , or better yet BREW some balls .lol

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RE: Question for the ROMANIAN hosts...

Well sir, I am sorry to disappoint, but this is my actually member name. I just wanted to point out to you that I have been reading your posts for some time now and from the content of them, you come off as an all knowing when in fact you know very little.

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RE: Question for the ROMANIAN hosts...

Hilarious.....Game, set and match to sillyme!!

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RE: Question for the ROMANIAN hosts...

I've managed to send jewelry to my friend in Romania. I've not tried candy yet, that's next.

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RE: Question for the ROMANIAN hosts...

Romania is part of the European Union, so it's pretty much just like any other country for import / export in Europe.
Communist days are over as far as Customs are concerned, the boarders are open to money, gifts, everything.

Strictly speaking noone sends jewellery by post or courier anywhere in Europe. No it is not safe. neither is cash.
All parcels are X-ray'd as standard procedure for unopened consignments. It's got nothing to do with Romania being safe or not... the same goes in all of Europe... Parcels containing anything of any good value can and do occasionally go missing especially if the contents is small enough to fit into a pocket ;)

Failing that, stamp "From Russia" on the outside of the box ("Soviet union" works even better), you could pack it with explosives and no one in eastern europe would bother stopping it, they'd be even happier to move it, even gift wrap it for you and make a hand delivery :D

Personally, don't bother with all the gifts. Just send her the cash, she'll be much more appreciative of it.... ;-)

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RE: Question for the ROMANIAN hosts...

well one thing none of the responses thus far have stated: items valued over $50 USD (not sure what that translates to in EU) will incur a customs fee at point of pick up. So either expect her to pay for it herself (which makes it not much of a gift then) or send the amount she needs for it. And in order to send it, you need to declare it on a paper attached to the package, which makes the contents "visible" to anyone who handles it, (I'm speaking of US to Romania here) and should there be a disreputable postal clerk (US or Romanian) she may never see the gift. Such things have been known to happen. Usually there is no problem, but if I were you, I would at least insure the package for its value.

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RE: Question for the ROMANIAN hosts...

Oh, darn. I just send little gifts, to try to be thoughtful, and here I end up costing my friend some dough.

Thanks for the info, though.

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RE: Question for the ROMANIAN hosts...

Normally you only have to pay VAT or a customs charge if the goods are commercial (i.e. the person receiving them has purchased and imported them). If you ensure you clearly mark the customs declaration (which remains on the outside of the package) as a gift, there should be no problem or charge.

My fiancee is Russian and we often send gifts (birthdays etc.) back to her family without any charges. Mind you if the Romanian post is anything like the Russian post I'd expect 3 or every 5 packages to go missing! Good luck!

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RE: Question for the ROMANIAN hosts...

Romanian postal service is pretty poor. I've sent several letters/cards/presents to my g.f. in Romania which never arrive ! I find the best way to send presents is to find a Romanian web-site and get Courier delivery - very cheap. I've used this for flowers/dresses/jewellery etc. (Good starting place for a website is 'ShopMania.ro

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Sick Leave

Robert calls his boss. "I won't be in to work today. I'm really sick. I have a terrible headache, a really bad stomach ache, and my legs hurt. I won't be in to work."

The boss says, 'You know something, Robert, I really need you today. When I feel sick like you do, I go to my wife and tell her to give me sex. That makes everything better and I go to work.. You try that.'

Two hours later Robert calls again. 'I did what you suggested and I feel great! I'll be at work soon.........by the way, you got a nice house."
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haha, good one.... clever employee

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food for thought(cut & paste)

Never, under any circumstances, take a sleeping pill and a laxative on the same night.

Don't worry about what people think, they don't do it very often.

Going to church doesn't make you a Christian anymore than standing in a garage makes you a car.

Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.

If you must choose between two evils, pick the one you've never tried before.

My idea of housework is to sweep the room with a glance.

A person, who is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is not a nice person. (This is very important. Pay attention! It never fails.)

For every action, there is an equal and opposite government program.

If you look like your passport picture, you probably need the trip.

Bills travel through the mail at twice the speed of cheques.

Eat well, stay fit, die anyway.

Men are from earth. Women are from earth. Deal with it.

Middle age is when broadness of the mind and narrowness of the waist change places.

Opportunities always look bigger after they have passed.

Junk is something you've kept for years and throw away three weeks before you need it.

Experience is a wonderful thing. It enables you to recognise a mistake when you make it again.

By the time you can make ends meet, they move the ends.

Someone who thinks logically provides a nice contrast to the real world.

It ain't the jeans that make your bum look fat.

People who want to share their religious views with you almost never want you to share yours with them.

You should not confuse your career with your life.

Nobody cares if you can't dance well. Just get up and dance.

The most destructive force in the universe is gossip.

The one thing that unites all human beings, regardless of age, gender, religion, economic status or ethnic background, is that, deep down inside, we ALL believe that we are above average drivers.
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Grocery Line

Next time you are in the grocery line, and the store clerk asks you, "Paper or plastic?" just answer, "Doesn't matter to me: I'm bi-sacksual," and watch their response.
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Next time you are in the grocery line (in United States), and the store clerk asks you, "Paper or plastic?" just answer, "Doesn't matter to me: I'm bi-sacksual," and watch their response.

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won't they ask to see your green card? :--)

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RE: 25 January - Day of Students in Russia.

i think we should partition our governments,january 26 is australia day.so in future from january 25-26 all russian students & australian men should be able to arrange to meet later that year.men pay of course! all in favour..... :--)

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RE: 25 January - Day of Students in Russia.

we russian students don't mind to meet with australian men, :) but where? too big distance between us!

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RE: 25 January - Day of Students in Russia.

another excuse for a piss up

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Oral sex

I like to give and receive.Some only like to give oral sex. Some hate it. What are your thought's?
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RE: Oral sex

umm......yes please!

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our thoughts? what about?

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I'm confused. Maybe we are thinking of "offering and receiving" in two different ways. For the man are you offering to suck his cock, but not receive his licking?" Or are you offering to let him lick your pussy, but don't want to receive his cock?

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RE: Oral sex

So I think what you are saying is that we men don't quite know what we are doing....down there.

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RE: Oral sex

Australian men know it very well because they are always down under. LOL

(sorry, I tend to laugh at my own bad jokes LOL) see there I did it again!

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i get what you mean, sorry guys, but most of you have no idea what to do down there!its more easy witha a girl. still.. i don't say no to guys either

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Always the choice of the girl...if she doesn't want to I can live with that and....I am also willing to give it to her if she wants it. Guys...the secret is always keeping the woman happy...make her happy...get her satisfied first and she will rock your world. Women do not roll over, fart and fall asleep. They reward the attention and great sex.

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RE: Oral sex

Well, thanks Casanova for that blinding revelation. How long did it take you to figure that out? Jeez...

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RE: Oral sex

Said the man who comes to a porn site so he can whack off...jeez...

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RE: Oral sex

I seriously hope this is not news to most members on this site. Although that would explain a lot.

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I have always been amazed at the attitude -- "do this and she will do this" --as if every woman is like every other woman: nothing but pre-programmed robots who have no will of their own, and are only able to respond to the stimuli in predictable ways.

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i dont like giving oral sex- i have to be extremely turned on to want to do and to actualy like it.. and i dont like receiving either- i dont know why-- i hope there s nothing wrong with me.. i can recall only 1 time in my life when i liked receiving..

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I love giving my gf oral. She loves it. She doesnt often give me oral. She doesnt like it (gag reflex). i can live without a bj. We both have fun. Not everybody likes

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RE: Oral sex

oral sex is for those to shallow to talk about their feelings but still horny enough to not stop talking :--)

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I agree, that's why I try to carry on a coversation with her while my cock is buried in her mouth.ME: "oh baby, you do that so good! What do you think about Obama's State of the Union Address tonight?" HER: um-ahm-umm I um-ahm-agahm liked agahm-um-ahhhm it."

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All is about money

I opened my heart. She today stomp it in the dirt. I am old fool.
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your not the first , and you wont be last , get up ,dust yourself off and look for a better girl . and make it more fun this time .

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RE: All is about money

I am so sorry that you got betrayed. I always wonder why members protect these girls identity. I bet I can guess the country too.... It angers me if that is true....

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RE: All is about money

What i don't understand is why they keep posting here.No on one real life go and confess at work or at the metro: you know,she left me.
Who cares?!!?!?? hosts work here for money indeed ( what a news ) and here is not a place full of 'brides'.
Until you inform us with all the details no one gives a sh*t. Stories have always 2 sides and most of ''lied'' members are -funny- that kind of members that come in video 1 or 2 then ask personal ways of contact ,and always underline that they are not THAT kind of members ,they are here for a relationship. Oh yes,but here are plenty of nice ,good looking men,polite,smart and with humor which also pays the time spent with us and they don't want a relationship. From 10 regulars ,5 are in loved with us. What we should do about that?

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RE: All is about money

Amen !!!!

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RE: All is about money

Instead of morally virgin I would consider it morally ethical vs. morally unethical in using a member and saying whatever to get him to continue coming to your room regarless if you're lying to him. Of course he didn't tell the story so who knows but I have heard the same story repeatedly especially regarding hosts from a certain country.......

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RE: All is about money

If someone told you to jump off the bridge,
would you do it?
You sound like you have wisdom,
so what is the problem???

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RE: All is about money

Bad luck :(
tomorrows another day..., Chin up :)

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no matter how cute, how sweet, how convincing, every host lies no exceptions, that special feeling you so sure was love, the warmth deep within was her separating you from your wallet, they move on and you left with confusion, denial, false hope, host is fucking her bf/husband now drinking beer you bought them laughing about another fool, even now you think you were different couldn't happen to you because she loved you, now I'm laughing at you too

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RE: All is about money

they need to tell all hosts to stop playing games or liar about dream to meet guy in her life!.

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RE: All is about money

My gf is a host here and I've seen first hand the way some of these 'lied to' members operate.

Just recently she had a significantly older guy from the US visit her room and during the first vid he was asking her to come live with him in the USA and saying that he could look after her. She said she has a bf and doesn't meet members, but if he wanted to have some fun in vid then she was fine with that. He had his fun and for a few weeks became a regular, each time asking her to come to the USA with him, each time she was very clear and said that she has a bf and was only available for fantasy online fun in vid. She even suggested he try some of her host friends who she knew were interested in traveling to meet members.

For a while he vanished, but now he regularly comes to her chat to tell her that she's 'just like all the rest' and that she 'used him for his money'. He posts nasty things in her forum and I wouldn't be surprised if he is one of the many 'lied to' members on this forum. Having seen all of the correspondents they have had I can safely say she in no way led him on and in no way lied to him. He just couldn't take no for an answer.

This is only the most recent case, over the past few years there have been several guys like this. I guess some guys here just can't handle being rejected.

So although I admit that some hosts lie and cheat to get members' money, the majority do not. Stop making sweeping statements without knowing both sides of the story.

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RE: All is about money

Was it done in Long Term/Marriage?

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RE: All is about money

I have been here for over 8 years. During that time I have "fallen" for several hosts. By fallen I mean I became emotionally attached. I realized that real contact and a true relationship was impossible but I thought I had a unique, special and somewhat loving connection to a host that was reciprocal. In every case I found out that was not the case....then you have to realize we are light years away from these girls in terms of what each want. They want money we want some form of emotional and physical intimacy. The physical distance, age difference in many cases, cultural distance, and just the distance between expectations is huge. Don't worry there is another host you will fall in love with it...but isnt that the appeal and the draw of CC? You can't fall in love with a porn video...you can fall in love with a girl who interacts to you and at least pretends to reciprocate some of your feelings....

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any host that posts here and is shocked to think I accused her because she never ever lies.... is a liar !! What do you expect a host to say ...Yea I admit I lie, steal, cheat here everyday??? All these hosts (yes I meant ALL) target or profile certain men to maximize the amount of money they think they can take off him then role play the love game until they hook him take as much money as possible then move on to next victim ..... some hosts been here years doing it ... best advice only use instant action never talk in pvt never talk in messenger etc just wank baby wank !!

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""What do you expect a host to say ...Yea I admit I lie, steal, cheat here everyday??? All these hosts (yes I meant ALL) target or profile certain men to maximize the amount of money they think they can take off him then role play the love game until they hook him take as much money as possible then move on to next victim ..... ""
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Pretty harsh..
Whilst largely that is accurate in the capacity that a host is here to work, it's not all about "lying, cheating and stealing" as you so kindly put it...

Noone forced any member to spend their money on a host.
The host benefits from the member, but it is not her fault the member chose to spend their money.
If they have been led up the garden path with a sweet storey then congratulations to the host, and commiserations to the member.
Wake up and smell the coffee (to the member).

But most definitely not all host behave like you have so kindly added...

I know most hosts like to keep things fair and even, and go out of their way to behave nicely about what they do, and that's not to be overlooked.

Just think you are being rude unnecessarily about hosts.

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RE: Members fantasies

give it what you got bb :))))))))))

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No I need time to get to know the host first before I reveal what a nasty pervert I am :P

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INYF is not a jerk. He is a very funny dude. I think you're the jerk

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I agree fantasies are very important and serious business....lol

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I have said this before and for me it is key. I like the host to act with me as if I were her boyfriend and I was away from home for an extended period of time. The host has an opportunity online to show her bf how much she misses him. To show him what he is missing by being away. To drive her bf so crazy he wanks and blows his wad and wants nothing more than to get home as soon as possible and have it for real. Manage to do that and you will have a lot of long videos.

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Domodedovo explosion

Anybody know what happened...?
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Terrorism is a stupid waste of life. My thoughts are with the Russian people now.

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News reports of suicide bomber at least 31 killed.

Prayers and thoughts to the Russian people.

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I have not heard details only that explosion at airport and 35 dead. It is very sad, yes, and my heart goes out to the families of those killed

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hopefully this wont be used as a reason to start a war , as 11 sept. was used ... *sigh*

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RE: Domodedovo explosion

And was your political commentary really necessary?

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It was just a sad truth, even if political... violence is so often used as a justification for political struggle, on both sides of an issue. In the meantime, innocent victims suffer.

My thoughts go to those who suffered in this terrible event.

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RE: Domodedovo explosion

Whether you agree or not with her comment, and the timing perhaps could have waited, it was indeed "necessary". It was a political act, therefore the response should manifest itself as much in political terms as emotional ones.

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Maybe, but I don't really agree that it was necessary in this context. Still I'm open to differences of opinion.

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What happened had the political reasons at basis, so i think her post didn't hurt anyone if she mentioned the politic.She was worried about the situation and i think it makes sense,any of us should be worried.It doesn't serve at anything to express only tears, sighs and compassion after all.We all know who are the ones to blame and why such things happen, so why should we hide behind the finger, eh ?

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Ummm correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Russia already fighting a "secret" war against rebels in Chechnya? Technically not invading another country since it's part of Russia but it's still a war.

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RE: Domodedovo explosion

In Chechney people live the same life as in other parts of Russia, if you didn't know it now you know it. But the criminals are still there and not so easy catch them as they have strong support from someone abroad, and paid very well by them.
I am not sure this post will appear though.

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RE: Domodedovo explosion

u r right Russians are not Americans ..Russians live in denial or unaware of what is going on in their own government even the news is censored, Russian host cant access many sites around the world most countries take for granted in news reporting plus they are too busy protecting their own borders with Norway, Finland, Latvia, Estonia, Belarus, Ukraine, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, China, North Korea,Mongolia, Poland and Lithuania. Its just a matter of time before Russian woman have Chinese last names


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Hosts in all categories, what % of your viewers prefer chat over show?

I keep seeing posts about all of these viewers that just like to chat coming to all categories including IA. I know you hosts are not keeping a running total, but off hand about how many of your viewers are coming to pvt just to chat? Would you say its its 1 out of 3 , 1 out of 10 , 1 out of 100, etc?
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Why are so many people obsessed with this issue? That is my question. Everybody has their wants and desires and wishes. Everybody expects something different. Why people have to be so obsessed with it is beyond me. It's like "you are strange if you don't want it the way I want it". but we are all different and we should be willing to allow everyone their differences. And if a host doesn't do what you want, then there are plenty of hosts to choose from. Maybe what we need here is a new forum -- a "clearinghouse" forum, so members and hosts can post what they desire and what they are willing to do, and then contacts can be made that way. Just a suggestion, but it will probably never happen and if it did, it would probably become just abused and overrun with advertising (seen it on another site)

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RE: Hosts in all categories, what % of your viewers prefer chat over show?

I'm not obsessed, I was only curious. On your clearinghouse suggestion, you bring up an interesting topic. On one site I got to they have a "Wishlist". Any member can list what he would like to see in pvt. He could list he likes big tits, small tits, tall, short, a fast strip, a slow strip, just talk, sexy talk and on and on.

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RE: Hosts in all categories, what % of your viewers prefer chat over show?

my comment about obsessed was not necessarily directed at you, but in general. It dominates the forum discussions.

The wishlist is an interesting idea, kind of what I had in mind. At the site I was referring to, the forum was intended to allow hosts and members to communicate, but it became nothing but advertisements by hosts. A forum which would allow someone to say "I'm looking for this" and a host to reply "I provide that" would be great. Does the wishlist on that site allow that kind of interaction? Does it safefguard against host spamming? If so, it sounds like a valuable tool.

One thing I am impressed here, with this General Forum, is that there is real communication going on. The potential for spam abuse is great, but I suppose part of it is the active censorship which takes place. Perhaps part of it too is a basic respect between hosts and viewers, which keeps it on a communication level and not a spam level.

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RE: Hosts in all categories, what % of your viewers prefer chat over show?

I know that site to which you refer. Joined it in 1998. The Wishlist I refer to is just a list of one or many wishes that member posts on a board and if the model can fulfill your wish she contacts you by the site's internal mail system. And only the models have access to member's wishlists

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RE: Hosts in all categories, what % of your viewers prefer chat over show?

If it's the site I am thinking of you get more spam replies than real replies.

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RE: Hosts in all categories, what % of your viewers prefer chat over show?

If that's your real screen name I'll CC mail you

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RE: Hosts in all categories, what % of your viewers prefer chat over show?

Yes, wishlist can be usefull here, Good idea.

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RE: Hosts in all categories, what % of your viewers prefer chat over show?

It really doesn't matter because a viewer might choose to speak to one and maybe not another. If you really don't understand why it would happen then it is not about you :) Come to the site...pick the category you want to experience and then find the host....simple. What others do shouldn't concern anyone else....it's each members choice and they deserve that.

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Room's Look

is important for you guys the room/backround's look ? I see lots of chathosts ,even some top ones with rooms that have a messy look. Does anyone gives a dam on how the room looks? tx ^_^
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Dirty knickers and pantyhose hanging everywhere is not a good look..

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Boring same room! I want see hosts in bedroom, kitchen, living room, bathroom "shower or bath" laundry, garage,basement and many different room. all to make guys getting excited too.. I wish to see some hosts doing on streets like "voguyer or public" for flash or sex hehehe
Would be awesome and LOTS OF PLEASURE TOO!!

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I think you took that one way out there......lol

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photosession ina basement can make you happy? lol

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The size of the room is important. Also, a big bed is a plus. Some girls do not have room to move, much less to show all of their body and face. The best set up is a big bed with good lighting. I know one host who has a big bed witha brass rail headboard. She can show all of herslef standing up or lying down, or close up. Great!

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My only concern with a host's room is that she is not confined to a tiny corner, since I like her to have some space where she can stand and do a sexy striptease, and I have a full view of her from her sexy, high-heeled shoes-adorned feet to her pretty face.

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Love In 2012: What does the future hold

Yes I know it's another year away, but it's time to think about it if your wanting to wait later to fall in love and find out there is another way to search for it. When it comes to relationships, what does the future hold? Will we meet via online matchmaker? Set the sheets on fire with cell phones-turned-sex toys? Or sip pina coladas served by cute robotic cabana boys and sexy girls? For those searching for a mate online, First dates will be on live video, sort of like cyber fantasy sex sites. Think of how much time you’ll save when you can screen potential mates quickly and efficiently—without even getting dressed below the waist if you don’t want to, does this remind you of something already we are doing now. We will get to know each other in a more natural way, even have virtual world dates before real world dates. Raising a lot of questions like is it possible to have a virtual bad hair day? If you stop and think about it what questions would be on your mind beside a bad hair day.
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RE: Love In 2012: What does the future hold

yes it is another year away and no it's not time to start thinking about it

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RE: Love In 2012: What does the future hold

It gives me another year to try to loose 110 pounds more

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RE: So what price should be for every category, guys?

I'm for every host charging whatever the market will bear like any other business. Let the rule of supply and demand carry the day

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well the more the girl does in show the higher the price as well...

I have found the opposite in Glamour and Shy. The high priced high rated 5 starts) only chat in pvt.

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RE: So what price should be for every category, guys?

I believe the prices are too low.
I think $1.99 should be the minimum price and $5.99 the maximum
Of course, I like the lower prices, but they are in my opinion ridiculously low and do not reflect the quality of the women who are hosting.

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RE: So what price should be for every category, guys?

I think he's referring to minimum/maximum prices per se, rather than in any particular category. As somebody who likes at least an hour in video, which is $120 at his suggested minimum, I would need to find a different hobby. His prices might not have much impact on the 5-minute wankers or once-a-week viewers but would drive away members who actually want to get to truly appreciate the hosts, and simply wouldn't be able to afford it. But then, perhaps that's what you want.

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RE: So what price should be for every category, guys?

Thank you and then this site would be more inline with the going rates....and beautiful girls.

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RE: So what price should be for every category, guys?

LOL It's already in line with and in many respects superlative to the other sites, in terms of beautiful girls :D

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RE: So what price should be for every category, guys?

I think is time to debunk this false argument that somehow the women hosting here (or on other sites) represent the creme de la creme of their generation. Sure they represent "quality", however one would seek to define that, but for every one hosting there are a score of equal "quality" women not hosting, and who would never dream of doing so. Be it Ivanovo, Bucharest, Manila or Medelin, the hosts represent a minute % of the available population with the necessary attributes to be successful as a host. Think of everything that attracts someone to their favourite host, and all those factors (and more) will be found many times over in scores of women who have never thought of turning on a webcam for profit.

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RE: So what price should be for every category, guys?

And try and get one of them to sit down and have a conversation and then flirt and tease with you :) What was your point?

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RE: So what price should be for every category, guys?

Should be a minimum of $10 / min for every member who was involved in the "price increase" threads who complained about prices :D haha

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RE: So what price should be for every category, guys?

doesn't matter what i think or suggest, hosts will charge whatever they or their studio boss decides and i will decide on a host by host basis if i think their worth it/i can afford it.

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RE: So what price should be for every category, guys?

And then you are going to change your price to .50 when they tell you that? Get real...this is not a good topic.

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You have right viewpoint. It's just discussion. If someone doesn't like topic they can move to next thread.

Funny how the ugly jealously between hosts shows up when we're talking about prices.

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RE: So what price should be for every category, guys?

No just you for not getting it after reading below....

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keep it like it is

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But, if someday there will be a minimum-charge of $2/min... i can go to all the other sites :(

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RE: So what price should be for every category, guys?

Each girl is different. Depends on category, your looks, your personality and what you do in video, are you new girl or are you returning, do you work on other sites... many different things.

If you don't strip I say under $1 if strip and other stuff $1 to 1.50. Not so shy $1.50 to $2. Instant Action $2 and above. I'm sure many members will say these prices are too high and hosts will say too low.

Obviously popular girls can charge more. Again supply and demand is key.

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RE: So what price should be for every category, guys?

You are answering yourself? The question only creates problems and you don't know that the first time? Grrrrrr Pick another choice topic if you're bored.....

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RE: So what price should be for every category, guys?

When looking for new girls, price always matters. these are my UPPER LIMITS

for shy, my limit is .80 open, 1.10 121. If over that I do not even try her. In this catagory u almost aslways have to go 121 for action.

for notshy, 1.00 open limit. If they want 121, I usually drop them

fetish, 1.50 limit for open.

These are my limits for trying a new girl. I few girl I has seen for months, if they raise price, I stay with them. But some I have dropped. There are lots of girls, and many very nice, very sexy girls with lots of action under $1.00

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RE: So what price should be for every category, guys?

Please accept my whole compassion, is this the same principle u use to try a new food or a new drink or a new holliday-destination? Relaaaaaaaax, u should be here for fun-fun-fun and not to buy an industrial machinery, after all.

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Actually, that IS how you price things in life...

Actually, the answer to your question is YES -- that IS the same principle that any normal person would use (to use your example) to try a "new holiday destination". Let's be honest here -- there's a BIG difference between going to a standard little beach along the coast of some country and checking yourself into some quaint little hotel VERSUS going all out and flying off to the Caribbean or some exotic tropical island in the South Pacific and staying in a 5-star resort. So again, the answer is "yes". For pretty much everything in life, OF COURSE you price things out based on "what" you'll be getting for your money. That is just common sense.

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RE: So what price should be for every category, guys?

when there is no chemistry coming from the host to charm and delight the member, he will consider her "waste of money" no matter how low her price might be and then jump to another host even she has a higher price.

it.s not about low price versus high price but it.s about the RIGHT PRICE accordingly with her personal quality and what she is offering: role-play, outfits, audio, toys, oil, squirting, etc. but most of all it.s about the way she can capture ur attention and make u happy.

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RE: So what price should be for every category, guys?

For new hosts on non-adult from 0.30 $ to 0.60 $ for open session + 20 -30 % for 121.
For all other non-adult hosts prices should be 0.30 - .99$ depending on the English and look of the host & b never reach 1.00$ for open.
on Glamour and lil shy New hosts should begin by 0.50 $ for open + 25-40 % for 121
4 stars rate hosts can charge 0.60 $ to 0.75 $ + 40-60% for 121
5 stars hosts can bypass 0.90$ for open + 50 % for 121
for hosts rated 4-5 stars hardcore categories (toys & real orgasm) can charge 2.00$ and more.
3 stars hosts on all categories have to charge as if they still unrated.
all depends on demand and supply, hosts can lower their prices or increase them

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RE: So what price should be for every category, guys?

Oh brilliant.....like this always gets fair honest answers when it's approached. Why would you open this huge can of worms again?
Set your price forget others and do your best.....this discussion never goes anywhere valuable. You must be new girl

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RE: So what price should be for every category, guys?

It dosent matter on the price or the category, its more to do with the members and the hosts. Every member have different 'wallet' size, different tastes in women etc. One member may be willing to pay $1/min whereas another maybe willing to pay $4/min. I think that host would be better off charging what works for them, and what sort of member they want to attract, although you'll get all sort anyway. ( i dont like the idea of the 5min sessions, think they would better off viewing free porn on the web, its free and not complaint on what a host will or will not do.)
I used to see hosts, if they didnt appeal to me i leave gracefully and find another (no need for bad votes just cause she wasnt right for me), Once i found the host for me, i stayed with her as was willing to pay anything.

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Increases happen everywhere in life, why should cam girls increase there prices too, it only seems fair :)
If the prices doubled then i see the cause for arguments (unless her show changed) but if it's just 10-15 then i can see no room for argument.
Recession is over now, guys can pay more...
Regular small increases should be normal for all hosts, within reason.

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Recession is over? Maybe in name it is but we are suffering tax increases across the board and disposable income is decreasing all the time! To see hosts increasing their prices is a 'double whammy' for me and means I will not be having as many videos in future! And I think I am not the only member in this position - do other members agree?

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Did not say that at all ..... just pointing out that the economic situation worldwide is not as rosy as is thought (see further posts below). You may find that putting up your prices will lead to less income, not more.

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Ok, I accept the voice of experience. Its a dilemma for hosts and members, that will not be resolved easily or quickly. Good luck.

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Sorry, it's supposed to say;

"why shouldn't cam girls increase their prices too."

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I can't decipher from your postings whether you are male/female, or host/member, but you are ill informed. Whilst by the strict economist definition most countries are no longer in recession, the post-recession austerity measures actually mean that most people are now worse off than during the recession itself. Which is not an argument against hosts raising their prices, just an exercise in truth.

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i agree partially with xDa but as for" the recession is now over "
this is not true where im living and im sure its the same for other counteries . (btw my taxes doubled since jan 1 this year . yes a full 100% increase )

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The recession is over? That would be news to me and the clients I handle on Wall Street. Countries in Europe are still in danger of defaulting on their loans. America has 10% unemployment and that figure was rising again last month. The correct number is actually around 16-18% once you factor in those who no longer qualify for unemployment benefits and are no longer counted by the U.S. government. That means between 20 to 30 MILLION Americans are currently out of work or can barely find enough work to stay afloat. Russia is in horrible shape. Finally, most people mistakenly believe China is doing well, but their economy is now completely dependent on America since China relies so heavily on exporting their goods to the U.S. They also hold the treasury credit on untold dollars, which they would like to dump but now can't. The average person has no comprehension how truly huge and important the American economy is on a global scale. If it were to ever collapse, there would be no safe place in the world. The economic earthquake would go forth and hit countries so hard and so fast that we'd take the rest of you down with us practically overnight. Any hosts who believe the global recession is over are mistaken and economically ill informed.

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Recession is not over.
Ask the unemployed who no longer figure into unemployment data because their benefits have expired.
Ask the person who has not had a raise in over 3 years, but the cost of living has continued to rise those three years, so his effective earnings/buying power is considerably reduced.
Ask the homeless people who can't find shelter on these bitter cold winter nights here in my state, because the shelters are crowded to overflowing and cannot accept them.
In 2010, I lose two tax deductions. My taxes are going to be out the roof,
Ask the person in the grocery line, who has to pay higher prices for smaller quantities. a 1 pound (16 ounce) can of coffee is now a 14 ounce can, e.g.
Ask the housing market which still has not rebounded in my area.
Ask the job hunter who can find only part-time/food-service/and or service type jobs, with no benefits and minimum wage, because no one else is hiring.
Maybe it is "officially" over according to the Big Wigs in Washington and the Federal Reserve, but in "reality" it is far from over down here at the grass-roots.

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Boo hoo.... lol :D
You poor americans :D lol

Com-on you're breakin my heart over here...
They wouldn't put taxes up if people couldn't pay them ;)
If you're homeless then you won't have an internet connection, you wouldn't be here on CC!
You guys make a dumb argument.

You are crying about how much money you don't have available, and how costly the girls are, how long it was since your last pay rise, yet you forget how the host affords to live...???
You are asking THEM to work for free, to go years without a pay rise? yet their taxes increase, the cost of food increases, the cost of faw fuels, heating, lighting etc...

Somehow you guys keep beating on about 'Love and romance' in these threads, one piece of advice here...... if you 'love' your host so much then you'd want the best for em, or to support them, the best way you can do that remotely (from another country) is financially.

If you don't care about them and just want shows, then appreciate that the host is under just the same pressures as you in life with money, everyone got to earn a living.
What you won't pay for, someone else will ;)

Quite frankly, they deserve the money.

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recession over, my ass

you don't even make an argument, you just spout nonsense.

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Its up to the chathosts to make their own decisions.
Time will tell if you are right or wrong.

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xDa, you obviously have not read my post elsewhere. Try in the thread above. Try what I wrote in viewer forums. I support hosts wanting to/needing to raise their price. So don't lay all that crap on me.

I was responding to your statement about the recession being over, was that too difficult for you to comprehend, without your being so defensive and insulting?

And though I am American, and speaking from American perspective, I seriously doubt that UK Guy is American? <rolling my eyes at your insuation!>

As an American, I personally relate to some of the situations I referred to in my post, though I obviously am not homeless. But the fact is in America, the homeless situation is worsening, not improving. In my work we aid a lot of people who are in need. Our requests for assistance have tripled in the last year, requests for help to stave off eviction or utilities being cut off, or to put food on the table, or gasoline for their car. People, many people are not making it. The recession -- IF it is over -- has left long-term problems that many will take a long time to recover from.

Anyway, MY post was not about price increases or no price increases. It was response to your ridiculous statement about the recession. And by the way, if you are a host, it would be good for you to post your screenname, because with your attitude toward us Americans, I'm sure many would like to avoid you.

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The comments in the other forum were because one member thought that a host had doubled her prices and felt it was outrageous which other members agreed but I didn't see the attack on other hosts and their pricing so why are in full attack mode and rambling off all the bull that you wrote about the recession being over and ridiculing the majority of members that are American and paying for your shows and other hosts....if you're just trying to start problems with members with your rambling then use your host name and don't make the rest of us look bad. I don't agree with a thing you said and I am host.

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This time I am responding to your post regarding price increases.

Yes, I agree, hosts should be able to increase their price.
Though I like the prices low, in my opinion they are extremely low, too low, and in deed, far below what one sees on other sites. Of course, on other sites, I think for many the prices are too high.

But you said "regular small increases should be normal for hosts, within reason".
But don't forget this IS a market-driven enterprise, and prices are determined not just by the host, but by wha the market will bear. A host is free to charge whatever she wants to charge with whatever guidelines CC allows. However, set the price too high, she shoots herself in the foot. Set the price too low, may also have adverse affect. Some people do believe in "You pay for what you get" and too low a price will turn such people away, thinking the show will not be quality. Maybe stupid reasoning, but some think that way. And then there are those who are money slaves, or whatever term it is called by. They want the price high and get off because of it. I can't understand it, but I've had hosts tell me it's true. But to each his own.

So, "regular small increases" may not be realistic. "occasional" increases would be more realistic, since this is a market-driven business. Just my two cents. No , make that three cents.

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if host charge 1.00. take 50% so host get only 0.50 and if this host working on studia. she get only 0.25$ a minute !!!!! so think guys. before to blame...

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I think some members know about what host earn and some dont.

It's about being a smart business person. You set best price for the demand of your services. You don't blindly raise price when most of the regular working people in the world are having a hard time and then post in host forum "why you have fewer minutes in video".

I visit another site where the video price was at a fixed price for many years. Last year they dropped the price by 17% and added voyeur mode and way for members to tip hosts. Are these changes better for host or member? Probably 50/50. It's more affordable for members but host lose some % because of lower private price but they can make difference by tips & voyeur since 80% of girls on that site work on another site too. The most popular girls will always make money no matter the price. It's all about demand. If host goes many hours without video she can say in her chat "I'll go to voyeur and do something there". At least she has chance to make some $$$ that day instead of nothing.

On that other site she can't drop her price. On CC you have chance to adjust price by demand. If slow day you can swallow your pride and drop price maybe $0.10 or if busy day you can raise price a little. Again all about supply and demand. It's better to have 30 minutes each hour of work than to have only 5 minutes each hour of work at higher price.

Smart members know they can always find girl who will have lower price, but still of course he will complain that his favorite girl raised her price. That's life.

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I agree tipping sucks and that's why I thought it was crazy that some members wanted that on CC. But for host who have few videos on other sites it's way that they can at least make some money. Best option for those girls would be working on CC.

I feel sorry for girls who are new and work in studios that work only on other sites. Because unless they are really beautiful or have great personality in chat or audio they're probably not going to make much money. The control CC gives on categories and pricing is the best for hosts and even members even though members complain about it all the time.

I would say do what you need to do on pricing and just accept that members will always complain and say price is too high.

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what about discounts?

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All host should charge whatever the market will bear. Its really that simple.

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The market place is right here on cc. The only ting that matters is if members feel like you are worth your asking price. Supply and demand determines price

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Supply and demand.

If your price is too high you'll get fewer videos. If you're price is too low you'll be too busy and can't give attention to all in your video. You just need to find right price and category to earn what you need.

I have a friend who is host who returned after a few years away. She started with higher price and got less than 20 minutes video each day. I keep telling her to use CC category and price to her advantage. Told her to lower price. She said no. Still not many minutes each day. I kept telling her CC is different from other sites and cant charge so much here. Again told her to drop price. Again no because of too much pride. Finally she understood. Lowered her price, changed category and also changed work hours. She got really busy. I told her I thought her price was too low because it was lower than price she had in past when working in studio. She's smart and beautiful too so she raised her price a little. Now she is happy and making good living and still has 4.5 to 5 rating.

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Lower priced hosts are not the busiest at all. Most of the time it is quality that determines worth. The high end dept. stores are going out of business because they charge more....they aren't stupid either. You get what you pay for and if you have the quality show then you can charge more. Sorry but your theory is not fact at all!! Many of the cheap stores go out of business while the high priced dept stores are still doing well.

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I never said lowest price hosts are busiest. I said popular host can get the price they want.

Other host need to adjust their price so they can earn the amount they want. If their price is too high the demand for them will be smaller than for host with same rating but lower price. Simple economics.

It would be nice if named companies to back your theory. Clearly Walmart is still in business so which discount store closed?

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You might not be aware of the names but K-Mart for instance was in bankruptcy and also Ames completely lost it. If you are from the U.S. through time there has been many that closed through time that were huge. You do the search if you want to prove me wrong. Very few of the large high end dept. stores have closed. I wouldn't consider Montgomery Wards high end either. Nordstrom's, Macy's etc. have always done well and there are much higher end than that that thrive. Just go to NYC if you need proof :)

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Thanks, I'm aware of most of those stores. Kmart wss bought by Sears but Sears isn't doing well now either. I don't know about Ames. I would add JC Pennys to the list of struggling stores.

I don't really know if you can really call them discount stores compared to Walmart, but in any case other retailers like Amazon, Costco, Target, Best Buy, Home Depot, and Lowes were able to beat them on price.

I think you'll notice that most of those stores were in urban middle class or lower class areas. It happens that those are the communities doing the worst now in America.

Yes many higher end retailers are doing well, but it's more about the communities/people those stores serve than about prices.

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Crap. System was busy and lost my reply...

I'm not saying hosts should lose respect for themselves. I'm just saying that hosts should be smart businesswomen. CC is a special site and they should use the features(categories and price control) of the site to their advantage. But also don't let pride get in the way of making smart business decisions.

Just because your cost of living went up it doesn't mean blindly raising your price will cover your higher expenses. Your earnings might go down because of fewer minutes. On the other side if you drop prices you might get more minutes to offset price drop. It's all about supply and demand. More hosts (new, returning and older 1st time host) working now and probably fewer members with disposable income.

Popular girls with almost always get whatever price they want within reason. All the other girls need to look more carefully at what they want to earn and how many hours they want to work.

The reality at least for most US workers is that they didn't get raise in last 2 or 3 years. They are lucky to have jobs. Many millions lost their homes. The middle class is not lower middle class or lower class. They also are living with the same price increses as other people in the world. CC and other camsites are entertainment not essentials like food, water, heat, cooling, medicine/health, or gasoline/petrol.

The economy has changed. For most older workers (probably like most members on CC) in US and probably other parts of world too they will never earn as much as they did in the past. The have to be smart with their spending and in many cases cut out luxuries. Sure there are still super rich people around but I don't think the average member is an oil baron or internet millionaire.

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As I said before it's about being smart business person. You obviously know what you're doing and have been for a few years.

You're probably also good host so you have regular viewers and as you say most will understand reasonable price increase.

Each host needs to find right price for her and what she wants to earn for her future. Some girls only think about today and buying latest iphone and not about saving for future.

My comments have been more towards hosts who are unhappy with their earnings and wonder why they're not making as much as they did in past.

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Good for you but most of the discussion on this thread probably don't apply for you.You know what you want and what you're willing to do to get it. Bravo to you.

Unfortunately many of the girls working on camsites are living in countries that don't give them may opportunities. The average income of an office job is ridiculously low. These girls need to pay more attention to the features of CC and use them to their advantage.

On other sites, I've seen some girls, so desperate to earn money that they're nude in free chat for hours and only get a few tips. If they worked on CC at the "right" price and category they would probably be earning money beyond their dreams compared to that other sites.

A realize each host has their own standards and limits, but CC is a great site because hosts have control over categories and prices.

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Not true!!!!!!

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Pick your priorities in life....if you can\'t afford to be here then you shouldn't . Hosts have to do the same in their lives.....we don\'t need lectures on our pricing. For the most part hosts are able to price themselves for their worth. The ones that can\'t then they don\'t do well...period.

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Just because you're happy with your earnings doesn't mean that all other hosts are that lucky. Why can't we try to give good advice on how to use the category and price control feature on CC so they can earn a decent living?

Why so much jealously between hosts? My friend asked for help in host forum and the only answers she got was it's slow for all.

She made only $300 in two months at higher price. She finally took my advice and lower price and changed category. She had 3 hour video in first day and made in 2.5 days at lower price the same amount that took 2 months at higher price. She has good rating and was so busy she could raise her price 50% and still earn the amount she wants in 4 to 6 hours each day.

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If she used her host name then she would usually get honest imput from other hosts. She ended up figuring it out too didn't she???

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She figured it out with a little help from me. ;p

Like most Russian women she has a lot of pride and I think was mad at me to even suggest dropping her price. I never told her how low to set her price. She set lower price than I would have told her if she asked me what price to use. That's why she could raise back her price by 50% and still make good money.

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To Nobody

FINALLY! I have wanted to meet you for so long! I think you must have known my wife for a long time. Did you grow up together? Go to school together? yet i've never met you.

I can't say know how many times, when talking with my wife, I've heard her say: "Ohhh! I feel like I'm talking to Nobody!"

Well, you must be a pretty cool guy, and I can honestly say, I'm glad to finally meet you. Maybe we can sit down some day over coffee and get to know each other better.

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LOL

Your wife says she wants to find Somebody for a 3 way but Anybody will do if you can't find Nobody. ;p

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I guess you are just looking for an opportunity to cause problems between members and hosts because that's all that happens when this point has ever been discussed here. You must be a new host!!

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hateness

I really don't like who don't look like glamour, but they r in glamour category, thought the criteria devided, what's maximum they can do "in their show'
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Not sure that anyone understood your point. I do agree that their are hosts that belong in other categories and yet bring their shows to glam. I think softcore categories are for a reason and it shouldn't include hardcore activities or the advertisement of them. It is up to the site to monitor the categories and they don't!!

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yeah, that's what I wanted to say. thanks for the cmt.

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You are welcome. I think you brought up a very good point that could use discussion. :)

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Keep em real

I love real breasts of all sizes. But they must be REAL. It is disappointing when a beautiful slim girl with small breasts gets implants. It looks top heavy. They don't fit. Big breasts on a curvey girl are fine, but not if they look like over inflated tires ready to burst. Please girls, keep em natural.
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On the other hand, there are few things more fun in the forums than when 2 members get involved in a heated argument over whether some particular host or other has implants are not; with both sides equally self assured they are right and can always tell.

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I have surveyed some of my members and men that I have known
(hehe) and actually have decided to stay natural although I think implants look good most of the time. After going to a topless show in Las Vegas and most didn't bounce is the only way I could tell the difference. I have been told by men that they are lacking the softness of the squeeze test.....
Why should it matter on here though? The cleavage looks great in clothes and job dropping naked don't they?

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RE: Keep em real

after yr kids, that is ok. some women it really chnages breasts and I understand desire to look young again.

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Fake ones are great, they crack me up, when they're so far apart that they look like they had an argument ... haha

I prefer real myself ;)

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German porn star Carolin Berger died last week following a breast augmentation operation. Ok it was her sixth, but the caution remains.

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she will be sorely missed, i'd cry into my hanky if i hadn't used them all watching her movies.
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