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Possibly something to do with the shear number of beggars...
Along with people making demands and telling host what They think she should be doing according to her category! lol

Proof, the hosts fight back :D

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Do you invest a little time with the girls, chatting them up, flirting and generally getting to know them and letting them get comfortable with you before you move to greater intimacy? I suggest if you take ths approach, you'll get your nudity in both little shy and not so shy. Over time, as you develop a rapport with your favourites, you'll become one of their favourites too and the nudity will be as close to instant as you want. Just saying what works for me.

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Just about the most sensible posting I have read in these forums. Spot on.

How soon after you enter video are you asking for a show. Sounds like they all think you are requesting it too soon.

The circumstances have varied with each host. Sometimes it was in free chat just asking about what to expect in pvt as cc advises all viewers to do and other times it was in open video. It does not happen all the time or even most of the time, but for it to happen at all is strange to me. It almost seems to me like at least some of the girls in not shy are starting to think and act like hosts in Glamour/shy. And for many years that was never the case.

i've had it happen, even with hosts i've seen before with other id's that have stripped right away when I saw them in the past. It all depends on the host and her mood. Just look at as a sign to move on. But if it happens in not so shy and she won't strip a few minutes after u asked, even in open, write to CC.

agreed

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wrinkle prevention cream or face cream ;p

"your just reward"

'round these parts it is called Obamas Revenge

twice daily protein drink

lol, is not

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Only twice daily???
Just thinking about my favorite host has me spraying more often than that :))

Man chowder....

jizm

Creme de la creme

disgusting spunk

video chat terminator

Nice one :)

:))) u have nothing to do seems ;)

Spooge

Love stain :D

Liquid Love.

now i know what do people do here when they are not in the session :)
it was interesting to read anyway

"Our eyes are always the same size from birth but our nose and ears never stop growing."

thats so funny.. that means we ll all be some pinocchio s when we ll be old.. lol

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goldfish actually have a longer memory span. saw it on discovery channel's Mythbusters.

Cool....we should do this more often :) Also did u know:......during war the troops returning from war will indidare 0 (zero) killed ... which eventually became overused OK to indicate all is alright ...a woman told me that a few days ago when i was waiting in a line to buy something....:) i will always remember that woman when i say the O.K :) see how much impact a person can have when doing a nice thing without asking 4 something in return? :)

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I believe the woman was wrong. That "explanation" comes from the American Civil War in which the Number of Persons Killed was often posted on a public announcement board, 0K meaning Zero Killed. However the term OK predates the Civil War by at least 20 some years, it's first recorded usage being in 1839., and was an abbreviation for a slang phrase "oll korrect" meaning "all correct". (Civil war was 186

oops, hit the "post" button by mistake. Civil War was 1861.

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An equally credible derivation is that it comes from a political society called Democratic OK, the 'OK' signifying Old Kinderhook, a nickname of the Democratic leader Martin Van Buren after his birthplace, and used as an election slogan.

You can't get this stuff on the Discovery Channel :-)

Yes, i did see that. Possible

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why do they have to be mutually exclusive :--)

Roses are Red
Violets are Purple
Sugar is sweet
And so is maple syruple
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in the wedding singer the fiance is a cheating womanizer, so yeah we're rooting for sandler

IF they both knew they were in love, that'd be different. But she doesn't want to meet because she doesn't want to risk cheating. Seems she has already chosen who she wants to be with, and doesn't want to put herself in a situation where she might be tempted to cheat. That's admirable. Cheating is never ok. And what happens here is cheating, in my view. I would never come here if I was in a relationship (thankfully i'm rarely in a relationship... sad face :( ) You hosts, i understand if you have bf's, this is a job, but for members, its cheating, for the most part.

It's not admirable. It's a cop-out. What you're saying is this. IF she met the member, she'd have an affair. Seems to me that her relationship with her BF isn't secure if the only thing holding her back is staying at home and locking herself away. Otherwise temptation would easily win. Sounds like she's staying with her BF out of convenience more than anything. If simply meeting the member in a public place is too much temptation for her to handle, she should rethink her relationship cause it sounds pretty weak to me.

Please, stop analysing me and my relationships, you are really bad at it.

If i respect my bf enough not to meet guys from here, especially if i have some feelings for one-makes my realtionships "weak" - if u say so.

And its only in the perfect world -we fall in love and stop noticing all people around,especially after some years with the same person. Temptations still exist, they come and go, the thing is we have to resist, if we respect and appreciate our current half. We have to understand and firnd out what is better for us-affairs and sparkles, or the stalbe partner who truly cares, and who we have been through a lot with and who we feel deep love for.

There is a huge difference between my situation and Drew;s situation. My bf is a great man, treats me like a princess and that fiance in the movie was an ass*ole. So. Please dont compare. I already regret i posted that. People missunderstood. I will not leave my stable, loving and caring bf for an online fantasy. Crush comes and goes.

Oh! I had to read it like 3 times to comprehend:)
You just represent the member in a much more favourable light so it is hard to like the BF.
He is letting his GF work here/ is not strong enough to make her quit- is afraid to lose her when being possessive.
Yeah- all depends on the girl's attitude. Speaking from my personal experience, I have not always been in relationships that are called "healthy"... for various reasons. Sometimes just for fun...unhealthy relationships may be pretty exciting and fun *blush*. This member in question is winning her so nicely that I ask myself whether he is really such a strong person to keep things right or is there some cheating behind...
In films it can end nicely...and in real life?

but when is issues with money dosen't metter if you work here...in life you must fight and have patience and everything will be good. and this is a videochat.

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understand you perfectly, hosty. For me money has always been the reason N1 of being here.

I think a better example is "Wedding Crashers". It begins with Vince Vaughn and Owen Wilson crashing weddings to have sex with hot women. But it all changes when Wilson falls for the Senator's daughter who is about to get married. Wilson then tries his best to steal the girl, and is finally forced to crash her wedding to win her (which he does). I think its a better example because the boyfriend wasn't a cheater like the boyfriend in "Wedding Singer." So there was no reason to root against him. In "Crashers" the boyfriend was simply an ok guy who just wanted to marry his girlfriend.

It's interesting that when we watch a romantic movie, we don't feel any guilt about the hero busting up a relationship because we want him to win. That's because in our minds we all want to be the guy who gets the girl and has a happy ending. Or be the girl who ends up with the right guy, who was the most romantic and proved he was the best choice. I think we always prefer to be with someone who will show they're willing to put up a fight for us.

Did you not watch the movie? In wedding crashers the bf is controlling and cheats around with waitresses and such. We hear about this while he's talking with his friends at his engagement party or night before the wedding party or something, and when he's talking on the phone toward the beginning with his friend.
The host in question, has obviously chosen staying with her bf over meeting and being with the member, good for her, loyalty is hard to find. Not saying that should be the case if he's a bad boyfriend, but if he's not, good for her for not playing with the thought of cheating by meeting, because why meet if thats not where its going? It's obvious thats what the member wants. And it doesn't say something about their relationship that she would be tempted, in almost all relationships there will be times where you're tempted. If there are any romantic thoughts or feelings, thats something that needs to be dealt with.

The host changed her tune. Her first post said "Right now im having a crush and im so confused...i have a boyfriend and i love him and would never cheat, but this one is so tempting...Im lost and really dont know how to handle it :( " That sure sounds like someone confused about their feelings. But ever since she posted that she's only put up posts saying how much she loves her bf. So she's either confused or feels guilty for admitting she felt tempted.

It is not fighting for something if you never had it. There could be a hint of chemistry between the member and the host but if she has found her love and is content with that then she is not available. For her to meet the member is cheating in her mind on her bf that she is happy with by even considering another man. If he sparked her interest further then it could change her feelings towards her bf and yet she was happy and content before that. My opinion.... Now if you were talking Six Days Seven Nights with Harrison Ford then that was a whole different story and it just happened......when they started out Anne Heche hated him.....:)

And what considerations are valid if one or two parties happen to be unhappily married (no children or mortgages involved)? Should they leave any gleam of hope at finding love?
Just curious because many men visiting this site are definitely married ...or girls. Does the previously mentioned ring on the finger change everything?

That seems to be another question that everyone dances around at a place like this -- how much does a wedding ring matter? If you're unhappily married and want to move on, to find a better love, is it cheating if you start looking around or playing BEFORE you're officially divorced? Or if you ARE married and pretty much resigned to your fate -- I mean, if you're never going to leave your spouse (for one reason or another) -- is it cheating if you come to a place like this and play around behind their back?

I'm a single guy so I can play freely. I'm also one of those dummies who has fallen hard for a host and I'd marry her in a second. Personally, I'd love to be married because I think sharing and building a life with that one special person IS the most rewarding thing that you can do in life (yes, I know that sounds really old fashioned, but its what I believe). So I have to say that IF I was married, I'd never visit a cam site again because I would consider it cheating on my wife, even if playing here is only an online "no touch" fantasy thing.

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That's a sweet thing to say, host. I hope you are happy in life and in all that you do. Best wishes to you. As for us "nice guys" waiting in line, I've been waiting quite a while now, but I refuse to give up because I'm still hoping for a happy ending. Now if only my favorite host here would get off her cute bubble butt and realize she's meant to be with me, I could be a VERY happy man!

and the bf or husband , same have the line of womans :))

Hardly a comparison to how hosts are wanted here! Most are beautiful girls, sexy with great bodies....

Thank you your expressing your male point of view. It is being appreciated.:)

Good one:))

Actually it is usually the worst which are irritatingly persistent and that you can't get out of your head. For instance I only have to write "Agadoo-doo-doo push pineapple, shake the tree" and anybody who knows the song will be cursing for the rest of the day!

B@st@rd!! :-P

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=)))))))))

nice one!!!!
wait a second! i'm still available. that means......dammit to hell!!!

Don't worry... I prefer to extend the analogy and remember that sometimes, just very occasionally, I drive into a car park and there is a really good parking space which isn't taken. ;-)

lol cherry & also because they look(think) bigger than they realy are :--)

That would be white men only

....and when u bend them too far they break and shatter and u have little pieces all over your floor that cant be picked up by the vacuum cleaner.

me de virgin one :))))))))))

ARSE ..like they say in England!

gawd i hate that term. sorry, just how I feel about it.

George W Bush

Barrack Obama

Democrats. oh, sorry, that should be "asses" Funny, it's even their symbol!

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Hahahha ))))))

tush :)

How could I gorget "Tush", my bad.

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2 Bulldogs fighting in a potato sack

facemask,doughnut factory,tradesman's entry,poo pillows :--)

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bottom

Together ofc:P

Welcome back dude. Happy New Year. Banana is best, lots of Potassium

imo you're right banana wins,what other fruit do they offer you a split with! :--)

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monika,but don't strawberries & banana work well together only with cream? :--)

For me they always work together:) My 2 fav fruits:P

can't argue except that i'd add pineapple.i could live on those 3 fruits forever.so who's bringing the cream? :--)

Oh yes, im actually eating a pineapple now:))))))))

Isn't it rude to type with your mouth full?? :)

well you just typed it & didn't seem rude to me :--)

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I like strawberry it reminds me of a clit with blackheads : P

i have been to russia many times and i confirm that there r a lot of attractive girls but its not true that u cannot find ugly and fat girls there too, just still most r beautiful

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Thats not true. Comparing to americans-sure we are not fat. But if we take french girls as an example, we have extra weight. Russians are often curvy, not super fat, but we gain weight easity. Gotta take good care of what we eat and go to gym. There are exceptions ofc, who eat all they want and stay skinny.

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Ummmm.... 28/166/50? your measurements? of your figure? Your stomach is 3 times as big as your ass, and your breast is smallest of all? Maybe in your country they take figure measurements differently, but with a shape like that I'd sure be at the gym every day doing body sculpting. Please tell me that is a typo!

Maybe Age/Height/Weight would make more sense OMT?

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Should that not be cm? As in centimeters? :P

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Yes, well... that MacDonald's in Moscow? and wherever else? Just STAY AWAY! not our proudest American export, by any means.

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McDonalds new motto: "Making the Whole World Fat" ?

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mmmmm cabbage mcflurry and borscht smoothie:))

It's partly to do with some vegetables, which the majority of people in eastern europe and russia eat quite a bit of. Part of some of these vegetables that acts as an inhibitor to the body with fats from foods. Basically, eat the right vegetables and your body cannot physically absorb the fats from sugars into the blood.
Calories mean nothing for fat people, sugars and salts are the problem that cause their weight.

A common thing for russian and eastern european women all say they gain weight in western europe fast (12-16weeks) 6-8% body increases, even from eating their traditional foods. This is due to the Chemicals used in western foods during processing. and also "Low Calorie" products that actually contain crazy sugar levels (but noone see that ;))

It's funny when you see the new russian girls going onto their first diet! lol :D

Your metabolism slows as you age. I think mine came to a complete stop years ago.

LOL what you eat controls your metabolism. When you eat the basic food groups....fruits, veggies, protein and stay away from fast or ready made food and limit sugars in your diet it is amazing how quickly your metabolism changes even without exercise. Regardless of your age...so don't throw in the towel. :)

just sayin! :--)

So??

Women used to cheat if relationship is failed, but for some reasons she prefer to keep it. Men sometimes cheat even if everything is ok.

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Wow Peter.....that is one unique case. That might be a good reason that hosts might not want to get involved with a member.....to be a members fantasy. Each host is her own individual and how she reacts to all that is something that I couldn't even anticipate about myself let along how someone else would feel.
Sounds like she was used for your enjoyment and anything she did as far as being jealous or whatever .....I think she is entitled to including blocking you permanently. I know that if I was involved with a member on an intimate level......I would not want him going to other hosts. Also, if I am intimate with anyone in my personal life it certainly wouldn't be with someone who was married or playing :))

thanks "host" for the honest reply. I agree with you wholeheartedly. Then again we are human. Hosts and members alike are prone to these romance traps. I admit that I have fallen for many a host here and have become jealous whenever they are in they're 121 shows. But thats when my a**hole male instinct comes into play. So, start again with another host. Thanks again for the honesty.

Right now im having a crush on a member...And im so confused. He is crazy bout me too, and asks to meet him.

He is such a nice guy, and totally hot, a perfection in everything i would say...And he travells very often to my country for business, but the problem is i have a boyfriend. And i love him. And i would never cheat. And even if i just meet him for coffee-i consider it cheating. But this one is so tempting..Im lost and really dont know how to handle it:( Just waiting for this crush to go away. Such a nice feeling though..

TD,
You consider having coffee with a man cheating? And you are offering your services to anyone on this site? ;)
Anyway, I am in the same situation as your member. I am barely married anymore. I am crazy about this host and want to meet her. She seems to want to meet me too but so far nothing firm has been decided. I would say go for it. Life is way to short to let chances like this go by. Good luck.

Yes i consider it cheating because i am crazy about this guy. If it was just a friend or a random man it wouldnt be cheating, but to meet a guy i have feelings for..Not nice and not fair to my boyfriend. I will feel guilty. Besides, i know that if we meet, it may go way further than just a coffee, so i dont wanna tempt myself even more...

This is exactly why a bf or husband can be jealous when you work in a job like this. Yes you love him now, but you are inviting very intimate contact, even though there is no touching or anything in person.

Women can get emotionally attached to a guy who is nice and funny, and the fact that you don't meet in person can actually make the virtual relationship seem more perfect.

The bf is not getting jealous for "no reason". This is the reason. And this is when you love him very strongly. Imagine how you will feel when you go through a rough patch with him. Your online lover will seem like a viable alternative.

I know all this, this is why i said that im waiting for this crush to go away. I know it will:) Of course i will not leave my real man, who loves me and who i love for a virtual one. It will remain just a fantasy..

If she's feeling something strong for the other guy, perhaps its because the boyfriend isn't the right choice. Sorry, but there wouldn't even be an opening for the other man if the boyfriend was truly fulfilling all of her needs. So she SHOULD meet the other guy and see what sparks fly over lunch. Ever consider the possibility -- in the bigger picture of two people sharing a long and happy life together -- that the current boyfriend is the wrong man and the new guy is ACTUALLY who she was destined to be with?

U are so wrong. I love my bf, we are together for 3 years, and we have that deep feeling, trust, respect and love. On the other hand, this sparkle that we have with the member is just a crush, i dont know him well, and he doesnt know me well. We know each other for 1 month only. What are u talking about? Im very happy with my man, he treats me like a queen, and i have to leave him for the virtual fantasy? I dont think so. Men like him are rare.

I know that it will go soon, just as it have a couple of times before.

I agree with the other poster. You should take a chance and meet this other guy to see what happens and to see what you might feel once you meet him face to face. Why is the other poster so wrong? You're the one who wrote "Right now im having a crush and im so confused... i have a boyfriend and i love him and would never cheat, but this one is so tempting...Im lost and really dont know how to handle it :( " That sounds like you are confused about your feelings, which is all the more reason to take a possible once in a lifetime chance on meeting this other person who you also connected with. Screw is right. If you meet him, you might discover the other guy is your real match in life.

And how do you imagine her to take the chance? She is probably living with her bf. Even if she manages to quickly meet the other guy, it will be a quick meeting. And I wouldn't advise damping the bf before having learned the other guy in person well.
The romantic "click and sparkles" is one thing (which often lead to one-night stands) but a good relationship should be based on a good communication as well... (like somebody said before) and consideration, when your head is more or less clear and not filled with the guilt and fear because of the bf.
If she were single I would also say- why not- take the chance!

Well said, im happy that someone at least thinks the way i do abt those crushes online. I started to think the world is going crazy..

And i dont live with my boyfriend, i can meet the guy easily, its just ill never forgive myself if i do, the guilt wont let me sleep at night, my boyfriend is a great guy and he doesnt deserve this. To risk my stable and good relationships for a sparkle that might be just an illusion? I dont think so..

Going by your logic she'd be frozen in place forever. You're saying she shouldn't meet the new guy because of her bf, but then saying she should accept any lingering doubts she has about her bf for no other reason than she's already with him. That's just silly. Obviously the cleanest way to start a relationship is when both parties are single and there are no outstanding entanglements. But in modern dating most people switch to a new lover while seeing someone else. Someone breaking up with an existing BF or GF because they simply met someone new who caught their eye or stole their heart happens every second of the day. Its a reality of modern dating. If she was married to her BF, then I could see the argument of her not meeting the new guy, to honor her marriage vows. But if she's single and not even engaged, then I don't see any problem with her meeting the other guy for something as innocent as lunch, as the others have said to simply see if their personal chemistry is strong enough to pursue matters further.

Well since she doesn't live with him together- it is easier to meet the other guy. All depends on personal moral standing.
When I wrote that I got a picture in my head: she meets the new guy, the bf finds out and since they share the flat, not only the feelings are hurt, but there are also a lot of material complications. Because the you ned to have a flat, internet connection and good nerves for this job:)
And what if she met the new guy and he were the type of guy who doesn't mind her working here? Then she is in the same situation.
I like romantic stuff too but you also have to think practically;)

Would you all make the same advices, if it is your own girlfriend who has someone else in her mind?

Turn b/f into a cuck ,have him film you banging the new dude and have him clean up the mess. Problem solved. No need to thank me, I enjoy helping out where I can.

Typical guys.....good women stay true in their heart and mind when they find the 'good guy" :)

That's not the question at hand and no one is saying the BF isn't nice. But if a woman has two men in her life and both are equally nice and appealing and have a romantic interest in her, she isn't making a proper choice unless she gives both of them a fair and equal chance. I agree with the others. For all this talk about the morality of what she should do, she isn't married and she doesn't have to sleep with the member. But she should meet him to see what possible chemistry they might have. She could be passing up the better man out of blind loyalty to her current BF and making a bigger mistake in the long run.

Sounds like bullcrap to me Peter.

To each his/her own "oh no." I'm not asking you to believe it. Just asking how hosts deal with it.

Erm...I crushes for every guy in my room....really! Adore all them. :)

pillows of pleasure

Like that, and they are

Rita and Lashonda

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Rofl, love that!

glad u like that moni. btw, how r rita and lashonda doing? :))

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lunch!

hornet bites (if they're small)

boobies

never heard them called that before......:P I'm sorry! couldnt resist.

i like to call them hot dog buns, especially when i place my......well.....u know......in between them.....and since my....um....u know what.....can be called a weiner........well, nevermind. i'm sure u get what im talking about.

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Well, assuming the breasts are attached to a certain host here that I love, I like to call them "mine" and "mine"! LOL

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my fave name for tits is b1 + b2

Tities

Cows have tits and tities for more than 2 :) not women

"Wishful thinking" and "Forbidden Fruit"

Good old fashioned TITS.

fun bags,floaties,life supports,pick-a-boob,tsubs,headlights,black eyes,saddle bags,all day suckers,.... :--)

eat something and drink something (anything ) see if that helps u

right, maybe more threadmill, or meeting friends get drunken and bumb sex :)

first you need to understand the source of your headache? Sinus related, Neck out of alignment? stress? Eyesight need correcting? Are you having a migraine headache, or a normal headache? Do you have cluster headaches (very very painful, and doctor's care is required). The solution to your headache can be as simple as taking a couple of aspirin, or needing something more intentional like chiropractic adjustments to some radical treatment by a physician. Good luck. I suffer from headaches all the time because of my neck.

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thanks hon, okay I'll just imagine it. thanks.

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I usually dont have this problem, cuz i make it very clear from the beginning that im not looking for anything serious on here, and that i dont meet. But it does happen sometimes, when a regular, knowing this, cant help but falling in love (i dont believe that one can fall in love here, but whatever u call this feeling). I had this several times, but what can i do? I tell him that it wont gonna work, and i prefer him to stop seeing me, cuz i dont like feeling guilty, knowing that im the reason why this guy is hurting. Usually they stop, but there is one guy who keeps comming, he knows that i cant give him what he wants, but i still feel erm..very bad about it.

But Monika, you told ME that you love me and would always be mine! I'm so sad now! Oh woe is me!

LOL (just yanking your chain. oops, you don't have a chain. just pulling your leg LOL)

MARRY ME, Monika!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

<< but there is one guy who keeps coming, he knows that i cant give him what he wants, but i still feel erm...very bad about it>>

I would imagine this is a different problem for hosts, but it fits with the discussion. What should a host do about a guest who has a crush but refuses to accept reality? Guests become regulars by finding a host they are attracted to and feel comfortable with. Making a guest feel desired and wanted is a host's #1 job to successfully create a fantasy. Problems begin when a guest forgets this is a pay site and he starts to believe his time with a host is no longer based on money, but on friendship. Psychologically speaking, that is the critical tipping point because that is when he no longer views himself as a guest. Instead, he sees himself as a welcomed part of her real life. As a result, he starts to believe everything the host says and believes that all of the flirty fantasy talk is meant for real.

MonikaBabe has the correct approach. It would be far healthier if more hosts would remind their guests that they are only here to work and put on a show. Guests who talk of feelings should be reminded this is a pay site. From time to time, all guests -- even regulars -- should be reminded not to take a host's fantasy words as a sign of real interest.

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I haven't heard your phrase and if you consider yourself a prostitute ....good for you but it sure as hell doesn't apply to this host....another phrase.....if you can't say something nice.....don't!! ;)

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Actually, the original host used the word appropriately. One definition of prostitution is to sell sex (which, arguably, many hosts do, even if they try to convince themselves that this isn't a sex site), but a second definition of prostitution is simply to "offer talent or work for unworthy purposes."

Good luck with your English too. :)

You are getting into a semantic morass. Prostitution was used figuratively for effect in your second example. But real actual l prostitution is as the host described -- the selling of physical sex (not virtual) for money, through a person to person bodily encounter..

Well I just don't see it prostituting if one sings for money, dances for money, teases for money......selling sex for money would be the most common use of the word and by the use of the word it is common to assume that is the meaning. However you would choose the word is your choice but don't call hosts here prostitutes unless you want to hear back from them!!
Get a life :)

Guess that makes you an ignorant "John" then paying for sex and getting nothing more than a hard on...lmao.

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Since you never exposed yourself to me in paid videochat, you are definitely not a prostitute.

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Reading your original post RB, I didn't think you were talking about yourself or the girls here anyway. You quoted the saying about prostitutes, but weren't you just making an analogy? I thought you were saying something like "what is good for the goose is good for the gander". You would not literally be talking about a goose, and you were not literally talking about prostitutes. It's just a saying, meaning don't get too close to someone who is only here for the money.

hmmm It's a hard question. Hard to remember about all such guys because I tell myself to not to take them serious now and forget quickly...hard to analyse such online relationships. Because I not always know myself whether I like the guy but try to get myself down on earth, or whether he likes me and tries to conquer me. Because it is not always clearly said between the host and the viewer...well like in reality as well. With some people you just click and your life changes but you don't know why. And you not always know what is real and what is fantasy...

I had one guy some years ago with whom we seemed to be at least infatuated. We were for sex videos on CC and chatted much outside "for free" as well. I considered him a kind of a supportive friend and virtual lover. It seemed to me to be a healthy combination. Although my English was not perfect.
When I met him first I was single but in the course of time I learned a guy who became my bf later. But it all was not decided yet. So back to the 1 guy- I once happened to look into his eyes on webcam closely and it was like an electric shock. I don't know what he felt but if I remember it right, he told me later he would never visit me again because he started to develop an addiction and I was a chathost and he was married and I have to forget about him. I agreed with his choice but for my taste he told it pretty hard and rude, I believe I was slightely pissed off.
Then he wrote me an email a couple of years later asking for my MSN again to talk a bit, because he felt we had clicked and he needed me for virtual sex as well. I responded that he could chat with me at a high price in my room. I didn't want any emotional chats with him. And all ended with an argument that I am only after his money blabla and my blocking him. And I believe he still was in my chat some time later...because when you have chathost experience you start recognizing members looking at the style of their chat and their intelectual level and... he told me about some of his liked that the other guy from several years ago had as well and which were very unusual. It was a pleasant chat and he seemed to know my likes as well and understand me well... For me it was obvious it was that guy from before but I didn't tell him about that, because, I had all the commitments... and that guy only gave me some hints about him.
That was my strangest "crush experience" with an open end. I don't know what to think of it. My common sense tells me not to start a relationship with a married guy anyway.

And I also had a guy who obviously had a crush, visited me often, called me his wife, wanted to marry me, even when I asked him to stop, begged me to meet him, called me etc. I told him honestly about my situation-bf, no wish to meet him because I didn't like him that much. But he didn't believe me and told me we could overcome all...creepy and scary:).Later he managed to stop chatting..maybe because of the credit crunch.

I believe I always told men I had a bf (when I decided him to become my bf) when such a crush was in view. And later told people right away that I am not for meeting. Ok, it's always a big mess when a crush happens. And then I have to remind myself of my real life commitments and I still have wishes besides finding love...so I try to concentrate on those goals for a kind of "reality check".

Thank you, that was an honest and thoughtful post...

For once a long post that was worth the time reading.

Yes it happens frequently and it is very hard because inside I know that he has his fantasy met when he sees me of course looking at my best but in reality he doesn't even know me. I see the complications with a distance romance and my life goals and usually just try to share that reality with him. I think it is easy for a guy to dream about a host because you see her in real time video, chat and laugh with her. She is there (with pics and recorded video at least) when you want to see her and she is always at her best and sexy. Where in reality she might be your neighbor and you would not notice her because you don't see her the same way...and when you do see her (host) there is usually a lot of testosterone present.
On the other hand I recently met someone where there were immediate sparks and when I listened to him...I could see that he had the elements in a man that I was holding out for in my personal dreams. There was electricity every time he came into my video as I would see and listen to him (we just chatted) and he felt it too. It continued and I quite honestly told him that I am not ready in my life for this and he instead worked through all my concerns with me showing me how minor they were in the scope of things. He came to visit and we had a wonderful time together....again something that would be in alignment with my dream man. We excite each other, think about life very similar and are on the same emotional level about each other. It just continues to grow (with no rush) and it is awesome! I am realistic in the way that it may never go anywhere and we could just be creating memories but it is well worth the ride because he is the closest thing to Mr. Right that I have ever met. We both feel fortunate and we know that we never would have met had it not been for meeting here.
So it can be an opportunity of meeting the ideal person but only if you are both feeling it. I think the host will have the biggest hesitation because many men have crushes on girls here and the host becomes numb to it. If you feel strongly about a host, remember that you are seeing a very small portion of who she is in reality. If she doesn't let you into her personal life then consider it just business and enjoy her when you can here but don't let yourself get too attached until it moves to a personal level and if it does you won't have to wait months or years for it to happen if she truly is attracted to you. There are many hosts here that will use it for their financial advantage so be cautious and protect your heart because those hosts won't. Good Luck and Wishes!

A good articulate answer )

crushes by members equals perfect client to many hosts they create false love/crushes called roleplaying host play game with goal of getting every last cent from member after his account is flat host calls member stalker some host have many guys she roleplaying at same but members not know its a game until its too late

That is a good point and it does happen often. That is how guys end up with broken hearts on sites such as this. A guest will fall for a host and she will play him until his wallet is dry. But that goes back to what "Sorting things out" is asking which is a good question. Who is to blame? The host who feels she is doing her job by providing a fantasy? Or the guest who starts to believe that everything she says is true? And even if it means losing a customer, when should a host drop the fantasy and remind a guest that this is only a fantasy and her online life and real life are two different things? I like the answers the hosts are giving so far. They've been very interesting to read.

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Your point is well made! Thanks :))

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I think that it is interesting your choice of words.....promniscuity would refer to several sexual partners which in reality who is having sex together here? In fact I am not having sex with any members here...lol. In fact I am not having sex at all with another person...hehe. Enjoy your words and be careful how you use them in real life....I think if you are referring to girls that are attractive to guys as prostituting themselves....;) I am ready to not take your choice of words serious at all.

I'd be glad to help you be more promiscuous. :)

LOL!!! A true man.

Cam girls are on line adult entertainers, except for the ones in Non Adult and certain ones in Glamour and Little Shy. But anything is possible. Its all about attitude.

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Well, lets face it, this isn't gonna help you exactly....but;

Your English was perfect in your very first post.
Your English English! like from England.

If you said those words in that context as you did and how you used them in your first post, then in England as a country and in it's society, you would have no problem at all. If you said that in the street, everyone understands, everyone smile and laugh, it's perfectly correct.
Also... quite accurate too ;) (in what you said)

However, in American English... maybe different.
In all other English perhaps not, as you have seen. Why's that, because believe me.. It doesn't matter if you're from Russia/Romania or Brazil/Bangladesh where ever your geography takes you... YOU DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH!

You can't, even after 25 years of non stop schooling, vocal trainers, etc.. you will never truly get it and never truly speak it. Partly this is due to 311 million incompetent Americans who trash the language, and also what we call "Text speak" in a global sense.

Anyone can speak some words, and some very well, but here in your first post (maybe by accident) you actually got it perfect.

As for all responses thereafter, they're nonsense because the host lacked an ability to understand the correct use of the words.

In the English language, what words you choose aren't as important as the context, grammar and meaning. You can swear /use vulgar words to an employer and nothing can happen badly from that, you can use profanities in a court of law, to police, if used correctly then it is harmless (even the worst words) but used incorrectly and even the mildest words can land you in hot water.
That is exactly how difficult it is to use the language, a slight minor and insignificant piece of punctuation means the difference between fine and OK and All hell breaks loose!

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hi there, i'm also known as your other half, women and hosts click with me and find me funny, interesting and sexy. we spend alot of time chatting and of course the women want me to travel and meet them and i'd also like to meet them. My problem is that in the past i have met miss wrong, miss i'm not as i appear on site, miss i want you to do whatever i say and miss i can't make decisions. It is hard being so perfect and having so many women that think they want to marry me, some days i wish i was imnotshy.

Lauging soooo hard! lol :D

That was very humorous!

I have same problems but women love my HUGE cock ! What should I do seems they don't respect my mind ..instead all women want sit in YM and.... say " make it hard again please "

Yes there are some that have crushes fast after just seeing me online for a short period and they want a relationship. I try to make them see reality and then avoid them if they don't see it.
It also works in reverse, I have seen recently. A member met a host and after meeting her realized she was totally different than she appeared. He started ignoring her so that she would figure out his lack of interest and she still continues to pursue him very strong. I have met him recently and we do click very well in person and have a very intense (all good) and she will not give up even after he has explained to her that he has no interest. He did some really wonderful things for her before they met and instead of appreciating that and moving on she is like gum on the bottom of your shoe and can't get it off. I would warn anyone that met that host....close to fatal attraction.
Thankfully I haven't met any men like that.

well and what is the name of the host then that u want to warn us about? There is alot of hosts here u know...

My new rule will help perk up Community Chat: Everyone in Comm Chat Must Be Naked to Chat There!

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name them? the fun ones i mean

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comm chat slow death started in the day when glamour category was born... who know's why

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You hit that right on the head.....Glamor is the doom and gloom for all guys that do not understand it.....but the gentlemen that like to get to know a Lady do :))

LOL actually she hit only on her own toes... i dont have problems with Glamour girls, i just simply dont visit them because there is nothing i search from here, only glamour hosts i ever visited have been ones i knew from other place, so i knew what i will get when visit them... but if u been here long enough, and think a little, u might notice that Glamour category has some negative effect to spirit in comm chat )))

"i dont have problems with Glamour girls, i just simply dont visit them because there is nothing i search from here"

Amen brother

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most of the men left from there becouse some of the hosts starting to beg for video after guy come in room eww.

others left there because of the constant fighting there . it is more peacefull when a certain member is not ranting and chanting ;).
the hosts must play a part in making the room interesting also .
why do they not get disconected for not chatting ?

Community Chat has been ok on the few occasions i have tried it, which is achieved by clicking 'ignore' on all members in the room, ditto most of the hosts that are writing in public, and then holding private conversations with just 1 or 2 hosts, and clicking 'ignore' on anybody else who seeks to interrupt. Which I acknowledge all goes counter to the spirit of "community"!

I agree it would get lot better if more host would get involved in chat, instead of members talking with each other--they can do that on ym with each other.

I think if we start all over, everybody (host and members) get a new screen name things would get better, to much of the same things are being said and repeated a lot from old members and host, we have got use to this stuff

Everytime I have had a new screenname, it starts a whole new wave of "Come see me in video" when I go to community chat. At least with the same old name, they know I don't what that crap.

The only good thing about Community Chat is you Boomer

Why?

Why not?

Because.

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i agree. although i admit i sometimes try to cop in on a show where a guy did all the preliminary buttering up, if i had spent quality time working up a good relationship with a host, I certainly don't want anybody else interrupting what is meant for me.

ahh, the old two-faced approach... okay to butt in on someone else but don't want to have someone butt in on you. But I certainly understand. I feel the same way. Kind of like outlawing cellphone use while driving is okay for everybody else, but not for me.

I for one have no interest in open video. I go directly to 121 except the very first time just to make sure the pictures match the host in video.

Back in the less regulated "Wild West" and for me more fun days of CC, before 121, hosts cold have several rooms open at once in the same or different categories.A host might have 2 or even three rooms open in Littleshy with three different prices and maybe a couple in Notshy higher prices. Hosts were not required to close any room down when someone entered video but were supposed to ensure they gave proper attention to all members. Of course there were sometimes problems when hosts had more members in video than they could handle but for me this was compensated for by the laughs it could produce. Also prices were much much lower because having more rooms and several members at a time meant hosts were busier. Many hosts had a session at 0.70 or less even if they also had ones at 1.00, 1.25 and 1.50. I was regulaly in video with many different hosts and things seldom reached the point where I was not happy with the attention/show i was getting. And when they did I simply said thanx and goodbye and left the room. When i had only been paying 0.50 or 0.60 a minute the loss was small. However many members were unhappy that they were not the sole focus of the hosts attention (sound familar? Lol) and complained to CC that "SOMETHING SHOULD BE DONE". So CC introduced new rules:
A host could have a maximum of two sessions open at the same time
These sessions must be in different categories
When a member enters one session the host must immediately close the other
They also introduced 121 so that those members who wanted exclusivity could get it. To compensate the hosts for the loss of income the rate for 121 was set higher than the open rate.
The result of this was that average prices increased and the number of rooms at less than $1.00 dropped dramatically. And the complaints about not having hosts full attention have not decreased.
In my opinion 121 and the other rules are a classic demonstration that you should be careful what you wish for cos you might get it.

Great recap, though I'd expand on one thing. You said "And the complaints about not having a host's full attention have not decreased." Let's be honest here -- that's simply because most hosts work multiple sites at the same time, hoping to get a paying customer anywhere they can. So even when they do start a private one-to-one show here, hosts often list themselves as STILL being free and available at the other sites.

The end result -- a guest who THINKS he's getting a one-to-one show...and who naturally assumes (for the money he's paying) that he has the host's full attention...is actually competing for her attention, since she's ALSO trying to please a different customer, who is watching via another site.

Yes i understand that. I think that the restrictions on CC sessions made more hosts start to work on multiple sites. The main point is that, although CC has done jsut about everything it can it did not stop the complaints.

agree

The answer to that is ......not all hosts are so greedy as to do that and so find a host that isn't. The ones that break the rules are being dishonest so turn them in and find a different host. At least when you turn them in it makes them very aware of what they are doing wrong. Write in their personal forum anonymously if you choose but silence doesn't fix the problem ever. I don't see that as vindictive in anyway and there are hosts that can justify anything here until it is remarked to her. 121 seems very important to many members that want exclusive attention and that is what was intended by the creation of it. There will always be loopholes that CC can not anticipate so help stop the ones that abuse it. There are plenty of choices on this site so I don't see any reason for any complaints here.....just handle the problem with an individual host or forget about it.
Many members that complain here....just like to complain and they only see their perspective and not the big picture....

Thank you for your great post too

Thank you for that excellent post

The original idea was Adam's and Eve's. Of course, they had no choice.

Thank you, my feet r still dry.. :)

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what if i dont know any other elena that can make it? i wish i could have the opportunity to try your sarmale, but i realize that the distance can make it go bad. even if it were kept preserved, i'm sure it wouldnt be the same as if it were made right then and there. do we have any other options?

try the romanian girls

got any in mind to help narrow the search? preferably one who can hold a decent conversation. of course i can look at the profile, but its kinda hard when the profiles say "ask me." then, when you ask them the only response you get is "hey bb, come to pvt!"

u could try a romanian cook book. no biggie to make them;)

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Great! I might have to take you up on that offer.

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1. b
2. a
3. c
4. a and b
5. b
6. b $2.80
7. a
8. c

wow nice test:P want to hear all the answers:P

1) b
2) a
3) a/b
4) a/b/c
5) b
6) $2.00
7) a
8) a

1) When u enter in video u want to see:

a) close up on face
b) to see all of her

B, all of her, and when stripping or playing, I want to see all too. I hate when hosts zoom when I don't ask (unless showing herself with cum running out of her) or when they lay in a way that I cannot see their face.

2)u would like to find her:

a) dressed in a nice t-shirt and panties,natural look
b)sexy,glamour
c)naked

A. T-shirt and panties, but made up too with some nice earrrings. (NO necklace.. it covers breasts, lol, and crucifixes make me feel I am doing something wrong, hehe,)

3)video should start:

a)wt a nice conversation
b)tease and strip
c)her telling u she is horny and wants to play

The show should start when I want it to, which will depend on my mood. Sometimes I want to talk a little, but others I want to get right to the action. Usually, the conversation let's the host know. If I say something like "Mmm. I want u.", it is pretty obvious what I want, lol. But once the show starts, I like a sexy tease and strip first. Unless I have seen a host before and already know what I want, I never like seeing her strip in 2 seconds and play. The sensual strip and tease, especially with oil or lotion, is a big turn on for me. Just don't stall.

The key is to follow the member's lead. He will give you clues what he wants. Maybe he is too shy to say "get naked", but if he is talking about something involving sex, he probably wants you naked sooner or later and you probably won't have too many guys get upset if you start to strip.

4)the girl should be:
a)smart and sexy
b)nice and funny
c)beautiful and outgoing
d)sex bomb

All of the above.

5)how important is the room aspect?

a)very,the room should be nice
b)not important

B. but I prefer a room that is nice. I never have not visited a host because of her room, but I like a nice room. And studio hosts... stop talking to the girl next to you when in video!!!

6) how important is price/quality?

a)not important if the girl is what im looking for
b)even if the girl is perfect i would not pay more than ...$/minute

I don't like my choices here. The more I like the host, the more I am willing to pay. Price just affect how often I will visit her and how long I will stay in video. I've paid $5/min before, but I usually won't stay long.

7) if u looking for hardcore action and u see a gorgeous girl in softcore section would u go in video?

a)I would only if she agree in text chat to strip/play
b)i would not go in video with her
c)if i like her enough only looking at her will make my day
d)i will go straight in video asking her to show me her goods

Grrrr. It all depends. When evaluating a soft core host, I try to figure out how likely she is 1) to strip and 2) to say "only 121". I look at her profile, her forum, her pics to see how much of her body she shows, and her price, especially her open price versus her 121 price, and whether she has a profile in a hardcore category as well.

I use my long time experience here to then decide if I feel like taking the time to ask her in text chat about whether she will strip and if it will be "only 121". Sometimes I will just move on to the next host without even asking since I am either sure she won't strip or she will say only 121 and her price there is too high. It is all about my mood and what my instincts tell me. For example, if I think she will strip but is an "only 121" type, I check the price and decide if it is worth seeing her. If I think she will strip in open too, then again, I look at the price and decide if it is worth it and also consider if i still will want to stay if she says she strips but I am wrong and it will only be in 121.

Again, what I do is use my experience to judge what will probably happen. I don't like taking the time to go into text and ask what she will do, and I don't like going into video unless I have a high degree of confidence she will give me a show. I rather not get into debates with hosts about stripping, 121, passwords, prices, et cetera. I am here to have fun, not to enter a business negotiation so I just accept her prices and try to use my best judgment and visit hosts that I think will give me what I want at the price I want.

The only time I will just jump into video even if I think a host won't strip is if I know her and just want to talk or if she is very beautiful and I just want to see what she looks like on cam. I may ask for a show once I am there. But most of the time, if I want a strip, however, once again, I do a whole mental analysis based on my long time of being a member here. And by the way, if the price isn't too high, I sometimes just jump into video and hope for the best. Again, it really depends on my mood.

8)u would accept lies?

a) no, i wanna hear only the truth
b)just a lil lie to make feel great wont harm anyone
c) lies are good as long as i feel like in heaven

A. I hate lies. I will visit you even if you are happily married with 5 kids as long as I have fun visiting you, be it chatting or playing. It is a little weird playing with someone I know is married, but I've done it. I rather know the truth, and that includes giving your honest opinion about me too.

1) When u enter in video u want to see:
b) to see all of her

2)u would like to find her:
a)dressed in a nice t-shirt/jumper and jeans/home clothes, natural look

3)video should start:
a)wt a nice conversation (or just 'A' conversation)

4)the girl should be:
c)beautiful and outgoing

5)how important is the room aspect?
a)very,the room should be nice

6) how important is price/quality?
b)even if the girl is perfect i would not pay more than $2 minute

7) if u looking for hardcore action and u see a gorgeous girl in softcore section would u go in video?
c)if i like her enough only looking at her will make my day

8)u would accept lies?
a) no, i wanna hear only the truth

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It`s a quiz.....when u see a quiz in a magazine u take it or not! same here! And it is not for a specific category. For glamhost: what woman does not like to be adored? I do! If u don`t its ur problem....i am young,beautiful and i am smart...ofc i desirve the best of all ...and i am modest :D

69 question quiz coming soon

I don't recall saying anything about "being adored" but if you are referring to Dom behavior then maybe we see things differently, agreed. I don't need to demean a member to feel appreciated for my attractiveness and elegant manner. I honestly don't see how Glam and Dom fit in the same sentence let alone the same category. Sounds like you are very full of yourself and maybe having slaves makes you feel "adored" but then the Dom category would suit you just fine and would attract your slaves. Glamor generally attracts gentlemen but gentlemen 99% of the time would not be slaves or sissyboys. I think you are very confused.

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to glam host plese give us sissy boys a break just because we like instant action--it's lot hotter then just looking at someone who thinks theor pretty

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Well I don't see why you have you have your panties in such a knott....lol. The comments were certainly directed at the original poster and if you are a Dom in Glam then it would include you too.... and to you my response is maybe you can Dom guys that want to be slaves but you surely will not intimidate me into not expressing my position having to tolerate your activities in the wrong category :) Don't Dom's belong in the Dom category? Or does that make too much sense?

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I think you are taking it way too seriously. But in any case the points you raised are irrelevant. The quiz is to find out what the member expects. It is up to the member to choose the category most appropriate to meet these expectations.

The entire point is that it is simply a way to self promote because the results certainly aren't anything that could be relevant. Funny how you didn't even bother to take her quiz...lol.

1-b
2-a or b
3-a
4-a+b
5-a
6-a
7-c
8-a

His imagination I think.

Read my posts. The rules come from actual rules the hosts see and actual agreements the hosts enter into when the host selects her category. There are also FAQ's that the hosts see and of course, the public description of categories that everyone can see. Plus, there is common sense and the ability to use logic.

Any long time member with host friends that he has discussed this with or with his own host account knows that I am correct. Further, most of us have run into the hard core host that won't strip or will say "only 121" and dealt with CC regarding these issues as well.

My correspondance with them confirms everything that I have said, but when dealing with CC, knowing the rules and policies of the site is important because it affects how one should phrase his email when complaining about a particular host. As I indicated before, not everyone on the staff is as knowledgeable as some of the long time members in terms of the in and outs of all of CC's rules and policies.

Some good hosts here might be surprised what members deal with. I've had an instant action host refuse to get naked, for example. When I said she is supposed to be naked, she typed "I am." Boom! Print Screen and "Dear CC..."

Another time, a not so shy host told me she was new and didn't want to get naked and would only get topless. (Hardly, full and explicit nudity.) I knew that she had just agree to get naked the moment she selected her profile, lol, and pointed this out to her. She also stalled a lot so I gave up and left. I thought that I had seen her before and had a problem with her in the past, but wasn't sure. Anyway, I wrote CC and forgot about it. About 10 minutes later, I was looking for a new host to visit and saw the same host in little shy with a different account that was several months old based on the pics in her archives. Remember, this host, when I saw her in not so shy was new. Then it all came back to me that she was in fact a lying b*tch and staller and that was why I never visited her again.

Members deal with this type of garbage all of the time. If a host doesn't want to strip except what she wants, fine... go to glamour or little shy and the problem is over!!! That's all a host has to do!!! WTF is so difficult? But when you go to a hard core category and agree to get naked, don't give members a difficult time or play the stupid "only 121" game. Save that stuff for glamour and little shy, and I have no problem with that as long as you don't lie about stripping or stall once I get to 121.

It isn't that difficult. If a host wants to be in control of all, then she should go glamour or little shy and she can make her own rules. She just can't lie or stall. If she is willing to be subject to a member's desires in terms of when she will strip, then she can go to not so shy and instant action, again, the only difference being how fast she must get naked once the member asks.

The host gets to pick her category! Nobody forces her to choose! (well, maybe her studio boss does, but that's between her and the boss, not her and the member.) She gets to make her decision based on how much control she wants to have over her right not to strip and how much money she think she can make. It is her choice. But once she enters the hard core arena and make her profile, she has specifically agreed to get naked. There is absolutely no question about this. If you don't believe me, go make your own host account and select not so shy or instant action and watch what happens!!!

I still not found where is the written "Must" or Must not"!!

You can find it when you signing in not so shy, by signing into this category you commit to explicit nudity,

I dunno what the "rules" are, but in my world a girl has the choice to do what ever she dawn well likes and with who ever she wants too.
It's her body, it's her choice.
If you get lucky, then great.... :)
If not then you just say: OK...., thanks, and bye bye.
You move on to the next.

Just because it's a forum / internet site / camshow effort doesn't mean you should expect anything more from a host than you would a girl you met in a bar / shop / supermarket etc in real life...
Generally if you're rude and abrupt they don't respond to well, what makes it any different because you have a computer to hide behind?

If you don't get lucky with someone then hey, what's a couple of dollars lost mean in the greater scheme of life.....?? lol

Other than nudity, I agree with you. I am usually here to see nudity, so if a woman has agreed to it, I think it only appropriate to deliver if I ask. And almost every Adult host here has stripped at one time or another so the real issue is more of price and if they like you as opposed to self-respect and someone saying "I would never do such a thing" so when a host has agreed to strip, I don't feel bad about asking her to do it.

As for things beyond nudity, even though there is language in the cc rules that only hosts see that indicates hosts are agreeing to more than just get naked in certain categories, I have never complained about any host's failure to do these other things. I am comfortable asking her to strip once she has agreed to strip. It is a porn site for the most part, after all. But insisting that she does something with her body, even if she agreed to do it under the rules, is way too distasteful for me. If she doesn't want to play or use toys, even if she has agreed to do it, I would never press her to do so or complain to CC about it.

Well said,
The question is though.... has she actually said to YOU that she will do it.
Just because someone suggests something, or it is implied, it does not mean that someone is obliged to do something.

she has specifically agreed to nudity when she selects not so shy or instant action as her category... it comes right up in a very, very obvious way, right when she picsks the category. It is right there.

did she say it to me? no.... but she agreed to it with cc so that's good enough as far as i'm concerned. And, at least instant action hosts have agreed to do even more, but like I said, I wouldn't force it on them. (the language in not so shy suggests that they should do more than just nudity, but my recollection is that it wasn't an actual clear mandate... i would need to go check.)

I still don't find, where I have to do, where I not. there comes always exception and bad. I thought, cc is very correct and there is just criteria, break or not the rule. I mean, if once-used stuff, cant be give it back, is that a store to give it back the stuffs like in Schlecker or E-plus? never thought about it, because normally I never change my mind if I buy something to get the cash back ;)

My big huge motto.

when u sign in to not so shy, you can see this?
NOT SO SHY:
By signing into this category the Chathost, if asked, commits to:
•Explicit nudity.
To include:
◦Close-ups
◦Open Legs
•Masturbation by fingers

What part you dont understand?

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Sorry but you're wrong. This is a pay adult site. The"girls" make an agreement to follow the "TOC" Terms and conditions of CC and follow site and category rules if they expect to get paid. If they violate rules they can have account suspended or closed.

You look under "viewer Services" and find link to "what you can expect in various Categories".

The question in viewer forum was about expecting nudity in "Not So Shy". Unfortunately CC isn't 100% clear. People think there is optout as you say "girl's choice", but it's not true as members have asked for and have gotten refunds because host didn't strip in "Not So Shy".

Clearly CC says:
"Although full and explicit nudity is expected, we still recommend checking the Chathost's profile to see what you can expect from her show"

Which I believe to mean host needs to strip not just topless. No doubt. But anything eles is up to host. Meaning "show" can mean strip show only. She doesn't have to "play" , use toys etc.. All those things need to be verified with host. As I see it host can just choose to chat nude, but she probably wouldn't make much money and also get poor rating.

Ahhhh, you see... it is in-fact you who appears to be in the wrong.

[You wrote]
"Clearly CC says:
"Although full and explicit nudity is expected, we still recommend checking the Chathost's profile to see what you can expect from her show"

[Then you went on to write]
"Which I believe to mean host needs to strip not just topless"

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Perhaps you would like someone to define for you the word "Expected"???
At no point in that sentence is it a pure 120% fact that is stating a host is obliged to remove their clothing in anyway at all.

In-fact only in "Girls Home Alone - Instant Action" and "Groups(3 Or More)" does it say: "This is an adult category, and nudity is not only allowed, it is a given!"

And here is the only section that clearly suggests it is a "Given".
When did given become guaranteed??

Although i have mealy glanced over it, at no point can i clearly see in the hosts 'terms and conditions' that they MUST do something, only that they are not permitted to falsely represent.

They could potentially fall foul to the terms and conditions if they had agreed to perform specifically for a member, and exactly what was included into that performance, was agreed by both parties in advance.
Otherwise i cannot see where it clearly states a host must do anything at all.

In-fact the only thing i can see are the 101 things a host must not do...

Asking a refund or giving a host a bad rating though because of a members lack of "interpretation" or the inability to specifically outline with a host what they can and will be expecting to see in a paid video room is just childish... :p

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I agree xDa, I'm no lawyer, but there are clearly no guarantees of nudity anywhere in the category descriptions. I go to several sites and most of the newer ones do not impose strict rules on the hosts. And they state in their FAQ to use free chat to ask the host what she will and will not do in pvt.

On the subject of lying, if it is clear cut it is easy to determine. But there are many veteran and very savvy hosts that can mislead in such a way a top notch lawyer would have a difficult time in court proving she lied. And in my opinion the average host is much smarter than the average viewer not only here but on all cam sites.

One thing please cc stated that I agree with, is that there may be a language issue and the host could have been misinformed by the studio that recruited her to work here. But lying and deception are common place when it comes to the studios and their girls.

getting headache, this is not research which I have to invent or study for. I'm not Einstein or Thomas Edison, who studies something for it. Well, feel like just hard worker like the 700 $ factory work like Eminem did in that factory to earn just at least living $ in their life.

It's a adult HARDCORE category for phuck sakes!

If you actually took the trouble to ask CC they would tell you that by "full and explicit nudity is expected" in not shy they mean that a host is obliged to get naked. WHat she is not obliged to do is show close ups of her pussy, masturbate, use toys ... etc. These are the things members are advised to check for in the profiles.

NOT SO SHY:
By signing into this category the Chathost, if asked, commits to:
•EXPLICIT nudity.
To include:
◦Close-ups
◦Open Legs
•Masturbation by fingers.
If a viewer wants toys, or other specific action they must ask the Chathost first to ensure the Chathost is both willing and able to accommodate the request.

INSTANT ACTION:
This category is designed for viewers who want instant action. They don't want to hang around and make small talk. Therefore ONLY those Chathosts who feel comfortable and prepared to give an instant sex show should advertise in this category. The Chathost must be prepared to show full nudity as soon as requested. Also if they advertise certain things in their show, they must be prepared to do them straight away, without delays.

By signing into this category Chathosts commit to:
•Not sharing details such as age, name, country etc. unless initiated by the Viewer.
•No delaying tactics whatsoever. Chathosts MUST be prepared to immediately start their show as soon as a viewer enters.
•Also getting naked must not take a long time. This is not the category for a slow strip tease show.
•Be prepared to provide an explicit sex show. Not only is the Chathost expected to get naked, but also provide additional explicit content such as open leg shots, and finger or dildo penetration, if requested

So there you have it. Not so shy must get naked and masterbate. Instant action must get fully naked and penetrate. The only vague thing is that Not So Shy hosts must show legs spread while naked but there is no indication that they must get topless. I think it's pretty safe to infer that they must, especially in light of everything else that has been discussed and simple common sense, lol. And I guess a strict reading of English doesn't make it 100% clear that an instant action host must penetrate, but I think it is clear enough that she must.

I'll try and find the email I got from cc stating toys are NOT required even in IA.

Toys might not be required, but it looks like she must at least insert her fingers in Instant Action as opposed to being on the outside as seems to be required by not so shy. Anyway, I never worry about that. As I stated elsewhere, I would never try to force a woman to use a toy, penetrate, or masterbate if she didn't want to. The thought of sending an email to CC complaining that under the rules, she had agreed to do such a thing turns my stomach. Now, if she had promised me that she would do it, say for example, a little shy host telling me to go 121 and she will do those type of things, that would be different. But some agreement between her and CC where I am simply a third party beneficiary isn't enough for me to press the issue. I always feel like a perv when complaining about no nudity so I certainly don't want to complain about a lack of masterbation, lol, although I wouldn't think it would be wrong for another member to send such an email given that the host had basically signed a contract agreeing to do such things.

My only issue, and the issue that started all of this, is whether a not so shy must get completely naked, and I think it is pretty clear that she must. People can argue about it all they want and try to disect every little word, period, and comma that appears anywhere on the site, but it is clear to me, it is clear to CC, and I think it is clear to everyone else with common sense that what I and some others have said in terms of nudity being required in not so shy is true. And obviously it is required in instant action as well.

Well I would agree that most of us men/perverts/wankers/dirty old men come here to see pretty young girls naked. But as you can see by some of the posts in this thread that there are viewers here for things other than nudity. Or at least they are posing as viewers. Maybe they are really hosts as there are a large number of hosts in the softcore categories and maybe even a few in hardcore, that think being sexy does not necessarily mean nudity. In my opinion most men would disagree, but we do have many outspoken hosts on site.

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"There are many men that you are apparently not aware of that come to see hosts for other reasons other than nudity and many also like older women too, so I have to say your personal choices limit your knowledge to what you know or hear. This is exactly why softcore hosts and non-adult also do well here.

Doing well or not doing well are subjective terms. And only CC knows who is generating the most revenue to the site. I have no knowledge of other members and do not care to have any. But I would bet if there was a poll on the subject that most men everywhere would vote hardcore. And how someones spends his money is his business. And yes it is good to have something for eveyone.

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Ah, so then their are a separate set of rules for the host when they are actually signed in then.
That is not made clear during the sites term and conditions.

I cannot find it written anywhere here...

So cool, host beware, beggars will visit you later :p lol

I would have copied it before but 1) I didn't have it right at my disposal, 2) I didn't know if CC would post it, and 3) I don't like that it seems to mandate masterbation and penetration so I didn't want to put it out there for all to see.

I suppose that the reality is that regardless of category, mosts hosts that get naked seem to masterbate and often penetrate so I guess it isn't that of a deal. But a busy host in a category that required masterbation or penetration might not find things too fun after awhile although many fake it anyway.

I wish they made things clear to all, but unfortunately CC does not. My summary in the viewer forum is pretty much all they need to say. Obviously, CC doesn't want to say too much in a marketing page when it publicly defines categories. It is really an advertisement to get guys to join the site as opposed to a reference point in terms of rules. But it should be written a lot better. Something like...

Not So Shy: Full and explicit nudity is available at the viewer's request, but he should check with the host if he wants anything beyond that.

Instant Action: Full and explicit nudity is avaible at viewer's request, and not only that, it will be delivered right away! Once again, he should check with the host if he wants anything beyond that.

Writing things in that manner ends the debate about "bail out" clauses. Additionally, I would not have anything in the host rules/agreements about masterbation, penetration, et cetera. I think nudity is the key issue as demonstrated by the million posts on this subject over the years. I don't recall anyone posting they were upset about a lack of masterbation, penetration, or toys, but I imagine it has happened.

As for other things beyond nudity, that should be left between the viewer and host. The host can put in her profile what else she does and does not do, and the member can decide if he wants to see her. Granted, profiles are not always read, and a viewer may just hop into video, ask for toys, for example, be turned down and leave with a one star rating, but that type of thing can't be prevented. Even if he read the profile, the guy still might enter video, ask for toys, and give her one star anyway if he would do it without having read the profile first.

The other things CC needs to do is clarity the "only 121" stuff and make it clear that this is not permitted in not so shy or instant action. Most CC staff will tell you that it is not permitted, but it does cause problems. Again, a simple statement in the rules as opposed to the FAQ's could say something like

One to one is an option for viewers that are willing to pay a premium for privacy. It is not to be used by hosts to get around the category minimums of open sessions. For example, a host is not to ask a viewer in a not so shy or instant action open session to enter one to one video before being able to see full and explicit nudity. However, hosts are able to offer additional features beyond the category minimums in one to one as a way to encourage viewers to enter one to one. Nevetheless, if the viewer refuses to enter one to one, the host must immediately continue offering the category minimums in open session. She must still perform the show that is mandated by the category minimums without stalling.

I would also add a some language that said something like...

Additionally, when in open session, if any viewer requests the category minimum such as a viewer in not so shy requesting nudity, the host must perform as requested. She cannot indicate that others are happy just chatting, for example, and that the viewer should come back later. If the host does not like this, she can change categories so that there are different minimum, offer passwords, or encourage viewers that don't want others to interrupt to enter one to one in order to prevent such problems in the future.

I think such language is necessary because the viewer cannot communicate with a host in open session other than by entering open session and being charged. The effect is that guys would either need to risk wasting their money or everything would be de facto 121 sessions. Ideally, guys should be able to ask the host from text chat if she's performing a show or just chatting but CC turned off the ability to do that a few years ago so I guess it was a problem. (At least, I think that I used to be able to send messages to hosts in video in the past. Maybe they never got them, lol.)

121 in those categories should be to insure privacy and complete attention from the host and not used for nudity.....bottom line.

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Excuse me, but this is a cam website, and there are parameters within which each host has agreed to work here. Working here is a privilege, not a right. CC has set the parameters and hosts should abide by them. So it's not just as simple as "she can do whatever she likes" -- yes, she can, but WITHIN the agreed-to parameters. Why? because customers ARE paying for a service here. And without the customer base, CC wouldn't have a business no matter how many hosts it had.

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"Working here is a privilege" This is a cam site not the NFL.

Where did NFL come from? Whose company is this? It's CC's company. It is not the hosts'. CC has the right to accept or refuse or terminate any host account. So long as they abide by the agreed-to policies set by CC, the privilege is granted. Let the policies be disregarded or broken, CC will suspend or terminate permamently a host's relationship with CC.

yes? then You've learned also take that money back like refund things??

excuse me, but wtf are you talking about? and what has that got to do with the subject at hand?

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oh, cc was prostition who has whip to hosts, U must?? well, I thought cc is the biggist company with good reputation ;)

It is not CC it is you that a the reason for the member not being happy!! The hosts here should follow the rules without needing a whip from CC. They should not have to babysit you for you to follow the rules. You are so funny with your simple thinking...

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it just seems, if you guys telling this eggplant is cucumber, then we have to accept that's cucumber. very confusing, but we know inside, it's not right.

I'm sorry but your comment makes absolutely no sense to me at all.

It is the same host trying to argue....lol

You are still "to be logical" trying to justify blame on someone else for the fact that you were charged back for not following the rules for the category that you were in. It makes perfect sense.

is THAT what this is about? I'm glad you were able to decipher it.

Regarding chargebacks, some members do it simply because they are cheap sleazeballs, and have no intention of paying a host. However, I don't know what CC's policy about it because I never chargeback and don't intend to. The host's "show" would have to be SUPER bad for me to ever request a refund. Usually I decided after a few minutes if the show is going to be what i want, and then exit accordingly. I don't keep going back to see if things have changed, nor do I linger around hoping that eventually the host will accomodate me. I figure the couple dollars a bad experience costs me is worth it to learn not to come back. But there will be no more for that host.

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Shave it and use Turtle Wax for clean shine

Your natural hair color would do just fine....

since "some host" explained breton, i'd have to say keep your style as is, if the bangs are the kind cut in straight line right above eyebrows. It is not a style I find attractive. But I'm only one guy. I'm sure there are many more who like that style.

If you mean making the host's pic bigger so it is full screen, not that I know of, but you can go under her picture and make it bigger size. I forget what it says exactly, but it is fairly obvious.

You can also hit F11 on your keyboard to get rid of the menu bar at the top while in video to have more room for the expanded pic.

Finally, you can make your resolution 800x600 (for windows, at least for XP, right click on a blank place on you monitor where there are no icons, slect properties, select settings, and then choosee 800x600 for resolution). The only downside to this is that you cannot see what you are typing to the host so try to type more carefully. Just click at the usual place to type, type, and hit return, and it should work like normal. When you are done video, you may want to change the resolution back to what it was before so make sure you take note of how you had it before making the change. You change it back the exact same way you changed it to 800x600, albeit with a different resolution selection.

to get the menu bar back at the top, hit the F11 key again, by the way.... and if you like the look without the menu bar, it will appear when u put the mouse cursor at the top so u can type like normal

no full screen on cc in vid , cc has been telling us for 5 years its coming soon . maybe this will be the year .

Getting tired of waiting.

Don't hold your breath.

Always good advice... Unless under water or are someplace where the air is not safe. :P

I'm sure CC are aware of the demand for this but there's no point unless you've got a decent connection speed otherwise making the cam larger would look really poor. Perhaps this is why they haven't released it yet. "Best things comes to those who wait!

Yes, it's partly a bandwidth issue because it's almost pointless have full screen video unless you also support higher resolution cameras so the source video is bigger than 320 x 240..

In reality the "full screen" mode on other sites is only scaling of smaller 320 x 240 video except for sites that support so called "HD" video when host has a higher resolution camera and fast internet, but still the video is scaled up from something like 640 x 480. These sites will never broadcast in true full screen HD video (1920 x 1080p) because that's way too much bandwith to use. I beleive Netflix only streams movies in 720p and reports say they use up to 20% of internet bandwidth in USA during evenings when their users watch films.

If you have Windows 7 (maybe Vista too) and a good video card that suppots aero you can magnify the screen and get the same full screen view (non hd) view found on other sites. Note that some Microsoft mouse users also have magnify function but I'm not sure if you can magnify your whole desktop so you can still chat.

Thanks for all comments and advices.

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I like the link to my account to remember who I had that great moment with, I too like pvt messaging in free chat

i like that u can come here and talk to yourself

I like that I'm not talking to myself, I'm talking to you

Well Candy and Ed Martin....couldn't you discuss this together?

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very true-very boring-now I wish I didn't read this post

And you don't think it is quite obvious that EdStorm and CandyMartin were spoofs of the first two posters?

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I think YOU are the best feature here on CC :)

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121 action and the friends I make here, although they lived across the country, wait I quest thats not a feature

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No, you only think it looks longer. It's called PTTDS -- Post Traumatic Tattoed Dick Syndrome

hope it worths the pain&trouble. what did you got?

I have a meter yardstick tattoo on my penis.....

Shame your legs are only 90cm

lol.. i guess the 3 legged man its not just a myth, huh :))
any bearded ladies around also? :)))))

ROFLMAO, no wonder he wabbles when he walks!

"huge" with the 1 meter cock - your a Freak of Nature

i'ts like Coney Island Reloaded... in a vitrual space this time :))