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Hmmmm...does it? Obviously, Marriage and Long term would bother me. However, non adult or adult, does it really matter? Interesting that you said that, though!

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Minibikini...sorry I did not understand you correctly, the first time... I agree with you. Also, some of the most hardcore categories would bother me, also. So you had a good point. Thanks. ;)

But! same can happen in any other category.
Anybody in any category can do the same thing.

After long time of hinting of how hurt i am watching those posey photos and just guessing whats going on in the videos, I just decided to open up fully and propperly explain how i feel.. She quit this site, she made me happy, she's also happy and i support her and also i can fully say she finally respects herself more and i love her even more for it..
And before you flame me, remember this: If i love a girl, then i would feel the same about her working here like her dear father! And because of that if she even poses on a photo it would affect me like a Dad watching his little girl doing out of this world things... And if in your case, your dad knows about it and not doing anything about it, then mentally or psychologically it's not right! What normal Mother or Father could watch this happening and let it slide? Only abnormal ones... Sorry if i offended any1 but it's my person opinion and i speak from my heart..
O and BTW i didnt look for love on here it just happened, friendship turned into something much more.

Thanks for sharing this. You certainly won't be flamed, at least not by me...even though I disagree with you on some points. Being honest with myself...of course I would not want to see my daughter working as a host. And I would give all my resources to prevent that from happening. With a g/f, possible life partner, it is different. We met this way., which I have to admit, is perhaps not the most romantic way...

However, the reality is that we met how we met, and although I would be willing to go your route, to "rescue" my girl, she does not want to be rescued. She has been extremely open and understanding of my jealousy...and made it clear that if I cannot handle it at all, she will quit. I actually believe her, but don't want her to quit just on account of me; I respect her willingness to want to fend for herself.

I realize now that I was perhaps too quick to dismiss the previous poster's claim that which category a girl in matters. Of course, there are certain things going on in video that no guy would want their g/f to do in front of another guy, in real life or on cam.

Personally, if a woman takes of her panties on cam, that does not make her a slut in my view, and does not cause me to loose respect for her. Nor do I expect her self respect to suffer, if she is doing it as a conscious choice, for economic reasons. Anyway, this is my view, and I respect yours. Glad that it worked out for you and your girl.

I don't know about a flame and I don't quite follow what you meant here. If you send money around the world to the girl to be sure she doesn't work online then some will call you stupid.

I know one girl who made that deal with a guy and he replaced her CC income. After a couple weeks she got bored and went back online without telling him. Another girl actually ran it as a scam and had 2 guys replacing her "missing" paycheck as she moved over to a Japanese language site and kept right on working.

If you have hooked-up with her and are married or living together then "bravo!" If you are merely he rpaycheck then good luck, you are a richer and more generous man than I am.

It is very easy for members to say things like "it is abnormal for a father to accept his daughter working here" because we may find many alternatives. Members here earn at least enough money to have a credit card. The situation in many hosts countries is different. If I was a father without the income to put my daughter through college I would rather she worked here to pay for college and gave herself the chance of a proper career than worked in some dead end job with little prospect of doing anything better for the rest of her life.
For me the key point in Asterix II question is how the host feels about continuing to work here and why she may want to do so. A host may want to continue working to show she truly loves you as a person as does not want to give you any reason to think she is attracted by money. She may also not want to give up her financial independence. The only way to find out is by discussing it with her.

if you rather have your daughter work here and take your clothes off then you are abnormal, in other words "TWISTED"

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o no! not another charlotte reply...
Just think a little harder and you will get it someday.
You probably too cold to understand something like that or just indenial..

Why do men start fights in a club if another guy looks at your girl or starts chatting to her? Because we being over protective and we dont want to share the g/f with some guy who acts all nice and really just wants to use for sex, what ever the case, if a guy looks at my girl and starts chatting her up, he will get it coming!
And on cc, the girl that i dont want any guy to look at is actually sitting by the webcam, anybody can come in and even see her naked! Why would i want that happening to$
my girl? Yea it's a trust issue but in the real world shes less open to these types of things. And if i was for it then Thats twisted! And thats why i'm as overprotected over her as her real dad, because i probably love her..

Work on your judging skills and understanding skills miss!

Oh i see your one of those old cavemen types lol.. i did not know many still existed.. i see the odd one now and again removed by bouncers sometimes ,,

If some guy chats to my GF ,, its up to her if she chooses to chat back, if she is just chatting ,, no prob...
and as she respects me ,, she will usually make it quite clear who she is with..
She is not a possession, or weak and feeble woman, lol .. her own fee will..
She chooses to be with me ...

your missing the point dude!

Being happy that my daughter was dating a guy like you. Now THAT would be TWISTED.

INYF, Why not address the guy's argument with a reasoned reply of your own, instead of taking a cheap personal shot at him?

Don't worry, even if you are what INYF says, most women love a large amount of "caveman" in a man, it's just not socially acceptable to admit to it.

And you know most women prefer a "caveman" how ?

Does that include when the "caveman" turns on her ?

It's just my opinion from my own observation. Obviously yours is different. But personally, I think most women like a bit of machismo - even the "nice girls". Many have admitted it to me.

I doubt if the caveman beat her up on her first meeting she'd prefer him over other men, no. Most macho types aren't wife beaters though, fortunately.

There's a difference between being macho and being the type of guy who beats up any other guy that dares to speak to his girlfriend.

Believe me, from my own observations, girls soon get sick of that type of behaviour every time they go out.

I think most discriminating women know the difference between confidence and arrogance too. The former being what's attractive, the latter being repugnant.
An overt display of machismo is most often an attempt to compensate for a deeper insecurity, I've found.

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oh my

Im sure your the last type of guy that could handle being out with an intelligent and independent woman..

seems her words and independent attitude scare u a lot ,,
that why u insist on attacking her any chance u get ,,

Although I think your attitude in the club is a bit neanderthal I can understand someone feeling very protective or possessive if a girl is out on a date with you. The real issue you have is that you can't understand that this is a job. Your girl could work as a waitress, as a salesperson, in market research, as someone in a sexy costume handing out fliers at a trade show. These and many other types of work put her in situations where she has to smile and be polite with guys who may flirt or try to hit on her. Would you pick a fight with all of these? If you do i hope she enjoys visiting you in prison. In many ways it is easier to ignore or reject these advances on CC than in actual meetings.

At last! Someone who points out (correctly IMHO) that this is theater... an act. Hopefully you didn't leave "Silence of the Lambs" thinking Anthony Hopkins is a cannibal in real life, did you? The analogy of they guy talking to "your" girl in the club doesn't really hold up. When two people meet in a club, they could get together that night. The guy knows many things about her: where she is, who she is with, probably something about her taste in music (or at least clubs) and so on. With a chathost, the guy knows what she looks like -- period. Everything else is totally under her control: to reveal honestly, to reveal a persona or act, or to not reveal. She can give her real name, country, city, relationship status, or she can not. Women in other adult-entertainment professions (dancers for example) sometimes find it very difficult to "turn it off" when dealing with men outside of work... every interaction becomes part of the act. The chathosts I've talked to did not have this problem at all. The fact that it was on the computer made it different enough, they could just close the session and go home.

Anonymous99 and "someone to another member", you guys put that very well. That is how I relate to all this as well...I was just not able to express it in such eloquent terms...thanks.

Asterix II, Falsehoods are at times cloaked in eloquent dress. Their arguments provide you with an uneasy comfort. Pay attention to the 5% that bothers you.

well if she works in a clothes shop, handing out fliers or what ever, much less percentage would hit on her then on here.. cc is the main attaraction for that!
And how the heck did some people come to a conclusion that i'm a girl beater?
And i personally didnt have fights in a club cause of a girl i was just giving example on WHY they do it, because there is an explanation to WHY! some of these replies i see are just weird! especially INYF's... He doesnt know jack about me, and i wouldnt date his daughter anyway and if i did i'd never respect him for his morals! -truelly twisted!

Pot and Kettle spring to mind. You accuse me of judging you without knowing jack about you and then accuse me of having no morals
without even knowing what my morals are.

Now to your own quote (where the "jack" I do know about you comes from and is enough "jack" for me.

"Because we being over protective and we dont want to share the g/f with some guy who acts all nice and really just wants to use for sex, what ever the case, if a guy looks at my girl and starts chatting her up, he will get it coming!"

The use of the word "we" implies you include yourself in that group.

Any guy that chats to a girl who is dating you "will get it coming"

If being twisted means that I have trust in the girls I date and can let them act like adults I will stay twisted.

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I'm glad you're not my friend.

Ted having seen your, usually, negative posts I am glad I am not your friend either. You come across as a rather sad, miserable individual.

I love you too.

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Your twisted because you quoted that you wouldnt mind having your daughter working on here... And thats twisted ;)

Please point me in the direction of the post where I said I wouldn't mind my daughter working here.

Yes, INYF, it was "Someone to a Member" who said that, not you.

Charlotte, I agree that "compromise" is key to successful relationships, but it is critical to make a distinction about WHAT is being compromised. People so often make accomodations with the truth and deny their deep-seated feelings and emotions. They make a reasoned argument to convince themselves that something is true, but their heart tells them something different. As the 17th century philosopher/mathematician, Blaise Pascal, put it, "La coeur connait une raison que la raison ne connait pas." ("The heart knows a reason that reason does not know.")

If she were taking my clothes off as you say thatwould be a bit twisted (as well as against CC rules) but taking her clothes off as a way to a better future for her? I don't see that as twisted.

it was a typo i thought everybldy would understand that i mean "hers" and not "my".
And if it's so normal for your girl to stip on this site, why when people ask me: where did you meet your girlfriend or what does she do?... Why do we all have a minute of pause and actually think about how to say it right, or how to change the subject or just say i don't wanna talk about it? And if we do just say it, why more then average percent of people's first facial expression is a wide open eyes with pupils almost coming out? Perhaps maybe they think it's twisted???
And since there's so many people on this site that accept it's normal, why the rest of the world who think different can't? and there's much more of them then on the CC...

O! And why do people say that it's not exactly the most romantic way for 2 people to meet? "Asterix" Is not the only one who said something like that...
Stop being indenial, and accept it's twisted to accept that you try to raise a good family and end up with your kid taking the clothes off for cam... To me it's failure as a parent! And if you are a parent and accept it.. Please DO accept that it's twisted! Don't know what you gonna try to prove but you WILL be the one who people will always point fingers at and call you f*d up! And you can't deny that.. And if you do! I dont even HAVE to call you twisted or messed up, the others will do it for me! unless you don't have any respect for yourself nor your family..
Seriously that is LOW!

Criticise me all you want, but before i say something like this i know it's not ONLY my opinion! Any respectable person will back me up on this....

"A better future?" In what regard and at what price?

Someone, I think Another's example of bar room brawling was not so much an endorsement of such behavior, but a rational explanation for why it occurs--no doubt something deeply embedded in the paleocortex of males.

You say to Another, “The real issue you have is that you can't understand that this is a job.” Very well. But what KIND of a job? Your failure to make a distinction is critical. By making a wholesale comparison to jobs such as waitress, sales or marketing rep ignores the degree and kind of personal compromise to one’s integrity and self-respect. I do not presume to be anyone’s moral judge, but I’d bet dollars to donuts that hosts will not include their work here on their resumé. And there’s a reason for that. I can well understand how economic necessity draws hosts here. (In fact the economic and political realities of the global economy are reflected in the Hosts/Members exchanges. Though it is not so simple, in many ways Member/Host relations are a textbook case of ‘Haves and Have Nots.’) That said, no amount of rationalization can get around the truth. Hosts’ work here is not something they feel proud about and members’ patronage is likewise no source of pride.

"If" you were a father? I take it you are not. What's more, I bet you would feel differently about it if you were. And as regards "the chance of a proper career," I agree a parent wants to see his children have economic security, but they also want to see their children happy. Your daughter may gain materially, but be impoverished spiritually and therefore unhappy.

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That is great news. If you've been together for that long, something must be working.

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You can never be totally sure you are her only b/f. It hard to trust any person here and it takes a lot of balls to develope something and keep it together until you can live together in real. If you think this is the hardest part of the relationship, it is time to think again... the hardwork hasn't even begun yet.

the boat's leaking water all over the place and as fast as we bail the water out more's coming in, in 2 months we will be sunk. RIP our relationship.

Sorry I not a Host but I met my wife here who was a host so i guess i can reply with some knowledge on the matter
3- 4 mons of seeign her in "chat" and I knew my feelings had become more than friendship, so did hers, knowing the guys were seeing more than I , I did not video "show date" her in her room, we talked only, finally go tto much for me , she must had know this as she offered to leave and get a new job, she did not want to hurt me and she was feeling guilty each time she had a prvt, that she was cheating on me. I did not offer her support at first but as our feelings became stronger, now that we had more time to chat in offline service from here, and she was not "working " here, i wanted her to have dsl for best internet connection for me, I wanted her family to enjoy, a few nicer things for their house, I wanted to help her sister go on to college, so i support her now , and her family she does not ask for things but she calls me asawa na, and I call her the same, she wears a ring she has access to me like any wife would have now and paper work is going on to take care of us together habangbuhay na.

Well, it seems you have her on a retainer. It's to keep har available when your wife isn't around and when you can swing a "business trip?"

In other words, why didn't you mention the wedding plans? And don't say she wants to finish school, because her diploma won't convert over here and neither will any of her credit hours.

I'm the original poster. No offense to you, but did aren't you just being a tad cynical? I've read your post above about the scamming hosts you've heard about, but here a viewer is posting something positive, so why do you have to assume that is is keeping her on retainer? Unless you know something about him that is not evident on this board? As a detective...look for clues...he DOES mention a ring! And what does the stuff about her college credits not transferring over have anything to do with anything..you just trying to be Mr. Sunshine, or what? Seriously, I am thinking about bringing my g/f here and marry her eventually...when the timing is right for both of us. So, if the plug of her hairdryer won't fit the socket over here...should I find another g/f? ;) Not dumping on you here, as I've read some good posts by you in the past. However, your last post really made no sense to me...

Hey, I just read Night45's post again, and I realize that I suck more at detective work than you do. I said one clue was that she has a ring. Lol...read the post again...he says it in the first sentence...he met is WIFE here...roflmao. No, he does not mention any WEDDING plans, is that a requirement? Would it have to be a "white" wedding to make you happy, or would a marriage license suffice....?

Just kidding around, but I could not resist...

LOL, if the retainer is for having sex with a "wife" on a business trip, then i can think of cheaper ways to get sex, as to her schooling, she is not in school, I said i was helping her sister through college. As pointed out below, wife which = asawa , is the keys words

duhh.... It must be very late, I totally focused on the fact that you support her and her whole family long-distance and overlooked the "wife/ring" mention.

What I didn't see was any mention of being together. Most guys have their wives with them or are desperately working to make it happen.

Besides, didn't you see that I've already been outed as a second-rate Inspector Cluseau?

The last sentence regarding paperwork suggests that they are planning to be together. Guess you really were asleep detective.

I met the wifey here, hooked up in real life for some sexy hotel fun in the daytime and later found out she was a wifey alright, someone else's....lol.

If you woman is working this site it's because either she likes it or you are not making enough money and when a guys comes along with enough money you can kiss her ass good bye.

Wow...that does not sound too great. Actually, I thought that the money was not the problem; she's not asking for any, but maybe you are right...she's just waiting for someone alot richer than me. ;( How stupid could I be, thinking that someone here might actually like me and be attracted to me for who I am! I should have listened to guys like you before I went to see her in person. Too late now; already in love and I'm gonna meet her family on my next visit....jeez...where were you a year ago to advice me? ;P Well, too late know, I'm just gonna take my chances....and come back and report to you if you were right...

Seriously, I used pride myself on my cynicism and realism...the only problem with that is that I was miserable and bitter most of the time. So this time around, I will just take the risk of being the fool. I've been a greater fool with women before...

Just be cautious, Asterix II, and again, pay attention to that 5%. As the French say, "Bon courage....et bonne chance!"

Realist,
Sometimes I go back and read posts a second time, and I usually find that I missed something. I was mostly responding to your last sentence...
"If you woman is working this site it's because either she likes it or you are not making enough money and when a guys comes along with enough money you can kiss her ass good bye."

I just skimmed over the personal experience you related in your first sentence, so I chose to take your second paragraph personally. After reading your post a second time I realize it has nothing to do with me, but coming from your experience. So, I apologize for being sarcastic...even if you DID mean the second paragraph ersonally....Everyone's experience is different.

The idea that a host puts her hooks into you and then works you, all the while looking to trade-up and up and up is possible, but not likely, as most guys are BS here and 99% of them who talk about meeting in real life will never follow-through, as is the same with 99% of hosts.

However, your sweetie is subject to non-stop smooth-talk her and she could be swayed from you. If you are indeed thinking that you want to build something with a girl here you are advised to make your plans to meet her in real life to explore whatever connection you two can build.

It has been my experience - having friends on one side or the other of about 12 couples who hook-ed on 'cc-type' chatsites - the girl winds-up with the first guy that had the courage and resources to meet her in real life.

it's true. some guys here enjoy seducing hosts away from guys like asterix - taking pleasure in dashing his dreams. it's kind of odd that such smooth talk comes easiest to those who don't mean what they say, but that seems the case.

Oh yeah, I knew one guy who charmed one of the girls here. He strung her out for several months with a couple meetings and then a promise of marriage. He sent her a bit of money from time-to-time and called a lot.

He filed the visa papers and visited her again. So much time passed without result that he said the office lost the papers and he had to re-file them. Then the call came from his wife asking who she was.

As it turned out he was married with kids and never did file the visa papers. She settled for second-woman/occasional mistress status, but changed from a sweet girl to a jaded witch with zero sense of humor.

At least she has stayed in school and just passed her exams. But that guy broke her dreams and screwed-up her personality.

What a schmuck that guy was, huh? "What a tangled web we weeve..."

Thanks for clarifying that, detective. Yes, I think it is unlikely, too...that girls are constantly looking to trade up. However, I understand from other posts that it happens from time to time.

I've chosen not to divulge too many details in this post, out of consideration from my g/f's privacy. I think that I've already mentioned that we met in person, and I feel that she is solid. I think that somewhere along this thread turned off topic; itt turned more into whether or not a girl should continue working here after she has commited to someone (not referring to your posts in particular, which were very interesting). That was not my original question, but I guess people's points of references determine the twists and turns of any discussion thread!

You (and hmmm and gamma415 below) mention the danger of sweet talking guys trying to ruin other's people happiness for their own gratification. I know that human garbage like that exists, as I've met people like that in the real world. My g/f encounters them from time to time, and just smiles while the meter is ticking on their dime. However, being personal now, I don't worry too much about this. Firstly, because I trust her. Secondly, because my observations in life so far have been that guys like that eventually self destruct and become their own demise. Of course, by then it could be too late, but I believe my girl has the emotional intelligence to discern what kind of people she is dealing with; and make the appropriate choices about what she wants in her life.

Long term though, I will do what I can to encourage her in making decisions that involve moving away from working as a host. But I really want it to be her choice, not because she feels pressured by me.

This has been an interesting thread; I've learned alot.

Don't even ask the girls the poison that goes around some studios. The jealousy can be intense.

gamma, Who are you quoting?..Just curious.

do you live with her now? - or have you recently met her in russia and are even more besotted that you believe she is your gf now? It's nice I understand

It's just well.. you talk like you have doubts in your relationship with her. She likes you - right ? Maybe, she only works on CC to save up for that house she wants. Or feels if it all goes wrong and rather than feeling used she can look back and see that you helped contribute to her new house.

It's unlikely that we are talking about the same host here - but from my talking with the one I know - she is mixed up and wants to believe in you.

Just scared to commit 100%. She is very cautious. Too much i think and finds it hard to take the risk. Holds herself back to be honest.

Maybe you should apply for her visa invitation to come here. Just my thoughts.

I hear ya guy. In the words of Billy Holliday:

Money you've got lots of friends crowdin' 'round your door.
But when all the spending ends, they don't come 'round no more.

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I appreciate your post, albeit very short. You made me think...really...

She's right, but do it right.

Meet her in reality and get the ring on her finger before you start emptying your bank account to her.

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sometimes u can take the girl out of cc but u can't take cc out of the girl

That's so true!
And about the ring, doesnt make sense...
If a girl is not faithfull and she going out to party she will just take the ring and put it in her pocket or a purse...
just a little example so you can think about what else she can do...

It all depends on the quality of a girl and how she was raised and what her values are and what shes looking for in a man..
And you cant prove me wrong when i say that we are all too different..
Peace and a very goodluck..

And remember this: The biggest risk in life is not taking a risk at all!

alpha, since you like clichees, here's a few other sayings for you:
Early bird gets the worm.
Once bitten, twice shy.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me!
Damn the torpedos, full speed ahead!

By themselves, these phrases really don't mean a lot, do they? I agree, and my point is that your comment did not either....it is just a clichee.Would you kindly explain what you mean? I've heard the expression you can take a girl out of the bar but you cannot take the bar out of the girl...is that what you are trying to paraphraze?

Hmmmmmm, are you saying that working here as a host equals turning tricks at a bar? I don't think that is what you mean.

Or, perhaps you mean that the girls who have chosen to work here....most of them I guess as an itermediate measure, to make money....since you cannot take cc out of them....they will be doomed to work here forever? lol....please enlighten me as to what your point is, huh?

PS. Rolling stones seldom gather moss, and out of sight, out of mind! :P

Miss CBT, Good, common-sense advice. Having read many of your comments now, I compliment you on your clear-headedness and insightfulness.

sounds to me you are maybe dwelling to much on it.

Just relax - let it be and get on enjoying what you have. No point worrying over something out of your control.

Now, there is some healthy advice. You don't spend very much time here, do you? :P

Yes, you are right....However, my question did not as much originate out of desperation and dwelling on problems as it did out of boredom and curiousity of whether others have chartered similar waters. Let me assure you, I am very happy about, and grateful for having met my g/f here.

Good advice, though, and a good reminder for everyone in the same situation. :)

I dont know if it helps but i just want to say that i did meet many hosts, i never used any of them, i never acted too needy, i always nice to them....
One thing i learned from them is that many try to be something they're not!
And i dont appreciate because it's not an honest thing to do! Lucky for me is that i'm always cautious and i always try to look deeper into things then they appear (not sure if i expressed it right)...
Let me give one example:
The girl that i met with, i thought shes a very nice girl, i thought she had a very good quality, But when i met up with her, she would actually have a habit to log on here on CC, flirt with members, act all nice, tell everybody i love you (infront of me) and laugh it all off...
Also: give many compliments, tell them they're special, but to me she will laugh at everyone because they believe her, she would even say: I'm such an actress no one has a clue!
What i did is, imagined that im one of you and it is not a good feeling, i mean here you are thinking this is such a lovely great person, but she is being totally fake with you and she laughs at the fact that your buying everything you say and she laughs at it and calls you names but only smiles and compliments go to you!
Ofcourse i thought she can do the same thing to me when i'm looking...
And the story even goes further and more worst, but it's another subject and another story...
Just wanna say the girl actually had an obsession with making people believe she's a saint by being fake to them and she would go to any extend to prove it!
It's like this is a game: some are players and some are game geeks who take it too serious and too far!

Another hosts i met they were not as bad but they were more clever at hiding things, i would catch them out on there talks, i like to be observant and i am always interested in what they say and at the end of the day it's simple! How they talk about someone else and how bad, it could always be you on their position.. (she was talking about using some guy for money and telling her she loved him but she never did)

Another time i didnt even had to meet a host, she would smile and give compliments to few members and say your my only one bla bla bla, to me she will give a silence smiley and say it's just work i like you ;)... One thing about all this is that: some people dont understand its a game and get hurt! And what if you do this to some maniac and he will find you? Thats why it's silly to play with people's minds and hearts...
So many examples anybody would find if your observant!

BUT! Ofcourse not everybody is like that on this site, so my moral of the story is look deeper beyond the person and test her in a few ways before you believe she's the one! It's better to be safe then sorry!

It's hard to find people's true intentions, but nobody is an Einstein in hiding it!

So again I wish you a very good luck, and be observant.
It's easy to prettend to be nice and hide yourself under a mask!

BTW im not trying to prove im very clever or anything im just sharing my experience so it would help atleast some.

And believe me, people can even live with you for over 10 yrs and hide something deep, But sooner or later beans spill...So i just wish people would just be honest with each other and not hide any skeletons under closets...
And in my opinion it's what makes a person special, if they really love you, they will open all those dirty secrets and take care of you and never try to hurt you.. Goes to males and females! Good luck!

But how many members are onto the game and playing as well? For them, they know fully she is acting. She is fooling herself. Many guys know she is an actress and they perform as actors to her. When two are all about playing it works nicely.

I agree, if the relationship is equal then no body is gonna get hurt. It's just roll play - a bit of escapism. It's only when it is unequal and one believes all the shit fed to them that a problem could pop up.

Congrats to Asterix ii by the way. Keep us informed of you and your GF. It's like a fucking soap opera here! Great :-D

Thanks, supporting actor...you and actor probably expressed this better than I did below. Many people don't understand the parameters here, that this is mostly an place to act out fantasies... A discerning and compassionate host would pull the plug when realizing she is dealing with a member who's a couple of french fries short of a happy meal, but I can see that this can sometimes be a tough call to make.

Still, this being a place for members to indulge their fantasies and hosts to (mostly) make a decent living...that does not preclude that scammers don't exist or that love cannot happen. But I must have said that at least 3 times already!

As far as updates on my g/f and I, I appreciate the interest, but will probably have to pass. I care for her alot, and don't want to accidentally make a slip that could make anyone figure out who she is. Let me just reassure the guy who anxiously posted earlier in this thread that it is not HIS g/f! :P

Happy (almost) Fourth of July to those of you who celebrate!

i dont know how many men here are acting too, thats why i wish both would just quit acting.. But i saw few members that even know the game protecting the lil fake actor and saying she's real... It still shocks me untill today in a way. :)

that first story about the first girl... By any chance is it Char lotte 4 u ???

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This is becoming a very long thread, but I guess it is nice that people have a lot to say on this topic (and slightly off topic, sometimes!).

Mythbuster, I hear you loud and clear, it is very important to be observant; both here in cc and anywhere else.

I don't like making too many refererences to my girl in particular, but will want to say that we have talked openly about these things. I agree with you, it would be much better if people always were honest, and I think that this is something that we should all strive for.

What I came to realize is that hosts that work on this site are in the business of providing a fantasy fulfillment service. For some hosts, and members, that might involve the host getting naked showing off her goods. Some members just want good conversation. What I was surprised to find out, but perhaps shouldn't be, was that some members are in great need of validation. Such a member might ask the host if she likes him, if she is his friend, and yes...if she loves him. Some members even have a masochistic streak and seem to take great pleasure in being rejected. Some have a voyeristic tendency, one of my g/f's members knew I was visiting her and wanted to know details about what happened between us. I am not calling any of these guys weird or sick; as long as they are paying to have their fantasy indulged (some individuals DO appear to be sick by my standards, but I wouldn'tt even want to waste any time on talking about them here).

So I think many hosts here have been guilty of using the "love you" phrase without actually intending to be deceptive. Prior to falling for my g/f I had had the pleasure of having dozens of hosts tell me they loved me. None of them would have broken my heart, because no matter how drunk, I would never had believed them for more than a minute. This did not cause me to feel bitter or deceived; I just realized that it was a game.

I don't want to make this post too long...let me just say that I agree that it would be better if people in general were more honest with each other. Definitely, this is true for intimate relationship. I try to always be honest with my g/f, and she with me, even if it is painful sometimes.

Still, if hosts and viewers always were to be completely honest with each others, perhaps for a lot of members this site would loose alot of its appeal. Again, this is not a dating site, but a fantasy fulfillment site. Just my rambling of the day.

And, mythbuster, thanks for wishing us good luck...I appreciate it!

Asterix, interesting thread for sure. I would be willing to chat with you on CCmail. Best of Luck!

That would be nice...to exhcange emails...but unfortunately Asterix is not my cc account name. Posting anonymously to protect my girl. Hope you understand....thanks, though ;)

ty for the laugh elina! :D

5 hours and no laughs....hmmm....I'll think twice about posting jokes here again! ;)

That previous post was supposed to go under my joke above, not your joke....sorry! :P You did at least get one laugh!

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sorry fucken hilton its advive, the word advice would be a more realistic word, if i was giving you advice it would please stay out of trouble and make your parents proud of you, but as for advive look up in the termmonolgy dictionary by Dr.Phil, the word advert: to call attention only its spell advive to come together

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dude, if you base your life on what Dr Phil says or writes in his "termmonology" dictionary (that one made me laugh), then I am very sad for you ... it is a well-known fact that he is a moron ... just look here for example:

http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/38/messages/1989.html

PFH was merely commenting on one of your spelling errors ... there were others they could have chosen including "avaiable" and "fifhtie" which may well be Dr Philisms too for all I know ... I shall await your explanation of them ...

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13. It's ok, we'll work around it.
14. Is this a mild or a spicy Slim Jim?
15. Eww, there's an inch worm on your thigh.
16. Will it squeak if I squeeze it?
17. Oh no, a flash headache.
18. (giggle and point)
19. Can I be honest with you?
20. My 8-year-old brother has one like that.
21. Let me go get my tweezers.
22. How sweet, you brought incense.
23. This explains your car.
24. You must be a growing boy.

lol...for you hosts that are posting this...are you actually expecting to get more viewers after making these jokes? I will make sure to keep my zippers closed from now on... ;P

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True, mine is tiny and I still drive a beat up piece of junk. Mostly because I spent my money here, prior to wisening up. :P Oh well...

What I meant to say, is that my CAR is tiny (blushing)...

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Does that come in Adult size?

Ohh I wanted a Full Meal Deal , not the Happy meal for Kids

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hahaha Thx for attention, Doc, but i guess you gotta study a lil bit more before you practice :P And i have to say that no feelings we been sharing, and he was not on my vid a lot... So was not a problem to face such an attitude. And, lol, "My advice to this guy is to get outside and date more girls in his hometown or go to a bar and pick up a woman." 10 points Doc, its' what i always told him! :):D

you are right Triksy, who ever you are--you sound like a very bright young lady, hope all is well in fantasy land----by the way im studying very hard to be a mind reader---

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Then they wil cut their own throats.As I said, for $0.60 we can chat with Adult and for $1.00 have 121 show. Economic logic.

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A little piece of advice: There is this thing called "text chat". All of the hosts have it. You can go there and ask questions and you can find out. Sure hope's this helps. (Who me?? Sarcastic? No way)

Well thanks for the obvious (is that sarcastic?) - a methodology I have tried - but language limitations or hosts promising the world just to get you into "paying" have proved this method ineffective. So I thought perhaps I would appeal to the community as a whole, broaden the request so to speak - time, although not a limiting factor, has proven to be a huge investment when trying to speak to each individual host. But thanks for your sage advice.

Do you mean with panties on or off?

on to start - a panty tease is always appreciated - but eventually off

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Only if its in a pubic place ............... oops, typo .................. public place!

It is still a working environment though is it not?

Police rading the studio, "Open up or we are kicking down the door! We know you have ciggaretts in there!"
Host:"One moment, I'm in vid!"
Police: "Ummmm, can I watch?"
Host: No you knob, it's 1-2-1 and I don't want to loose half a star!"
Police: Ummm, ok, but you better not be smoking, bye"

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Wait 1 min, BRB, headache, 121, PVT, later.
I think Police would give up, move to next host.

*English hosts rest of uk already has ban

hey tissue...let me know when 2 laugh

You can laugh now...although it helps if you know who Monet, Degas and Van Gogh are. :P Anyway, thought it was funny. Reminds me of this french host I used to visit. I told her I really like Debussy...From YOUR comment to the joke I figure you are more a Balzerac kind of guy...am I right? ;) Funny joke, tisme!

laugh with me,laugh at me it's not important but shyster you laugh only when you feel like it :--))

Funny joke and a clean one surprisingly!

got to be cider

I'd think I'm an alcoholic.

If a lady bought me a Guiness I'd marry her!

Poor Man's Black Velvet

that's her way to say get drunk cuz you'll never be in-cider

lol....good one!

that she has more balls than you.

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Its a hint you have been drinking her drink all night.

just in case some sad bastard scrolls down this far i thought i would let you know i actually like guiness now

call me weird, but I like to see regular stuff, naked women ...
no clips, whips, chains or ropes; no candles, food, feet or meat

breasts, knee high flat bottom boots, thongs , long hair preferably anything but blonde,athletic shape. on females i did say females right:D
on guys, just a cock smaller than mine. DMSlut (K) notsoshy:O notsobig either :p

You must be 12inches then Johnny!

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I think it is 6.00 bucks. Anything over a buck is kinda ridiculous. Lots of great looking girls in the .70 to 1.00 range. For 360 dollars an hour you can have a lot more phone someplace else.

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I have no problem with girls charging more - although for 6 bucks a minute why wouldn't you rent a live pussy - what I hate are the girls who charge premium prices and have bad cams and lighting. For the price of premium show one should be able to count the hairs, and/or see each and every fold of skin around her pussy in vivid detail.

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LOL! That is true about expectations of pricey cam sessions.

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Nothing personal, but your comment about shoes just made me think... How ridiculous it is that we, girls, always say that a guy has to have clean and neat hands and shoes. Lol, like if ur a girl, you can forget about ur hands and shoes or it just doesn't matter what they look like ! Oh we are so used to talk with stamps.

Again, plz, nothing personal, nothing to do with you presonally. Lol dont' even know ur nick, sorry.

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cleaned my shoes, but i only wear sneakers.
i'll keep it in mind now tho.

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Well, it's all about being clean and neat. If a person likes to be clean, he will be clean both in his pants and on his shoes. So if he doesn't take care of his clothes and shoes, it might mean he doesn't take proper care of his body.
Didn't mean the relation between the looks. But the condition only.

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pheew thanks

i was just about to run out and clean my car . hahaha

Well, i didnt' say it's a rule either, i jsut said it MIGHT tell you smth about his "other bits" :P

Triksy I can assure you that there is absolutely no relationship whatsoever between the two as my very clean and shiny shoes prove :P

loool my god INYF you are getting gross now :P:P

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Ah Paris, i always say the same, but looks like not many ppl realize it :( We are taken not by the way we look, but by the way we feel. Well, i'm happy i found someone who knows it too :):P

Paris I, fuckin love your nick!!! And to Triksy - as they say in Russia and I know you are russian " Po odegke vstrechayut, po ymy provogayut" , my english ain't very good so maybe someone else will translate it, it is just about that looks matter and always will be!

for me you are nice at any clothes....cz i have never seen you :p

but it'll be grainy, out of focus, and night vision green.
so your saying, you would need to see me in order for you to tell me what you like best on a men?

it was just a stupid reply as an answer to your reply 27 jun (a bit naive) that i didnt like at all :)

i still like you even tho i think you dont feel the same twards me.
but dont tell anyone, i have a reputation for hating everyone wearing clothes :D(K)

hun, i dont care what u wear. u can come naked as long as u bring a thick wallet ;-)

I love when guys wearing a black shirt with jeans...so sexy!its such a turn on!but i like to see you wearing nothing!:D:D:D

Why always Jeans? I don't wear jeans. I think they look cheap.

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Skin tight lycra shorts, wooden clogs, a black mesh wife-beater shirt, douse yourself in High Karate cologne and enough gold chains to make Mr T envious.

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interesting question from you.johnz is there something you are not telling us.someone you want to impress?go get 'em tiger!!

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I'm in Cardiff next week, wanna movie?

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Then we should remedy the situation, and chat sometime.

to impress, but its summer and its too hot to dress up, but when fall comes i'll be getting new clothes, and i am always trying to make females happy or comfortable, and even tho im not atractive, its good to know what they think.

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I can't punch but I can do a mean "oriental basket job" coupled with a "Clevand Steamer" special. Stop on by and I'll throw in a "Rusty Trombone" for free.

No uppercut-throwing girls around here i believe :(. But i seriously intend to show some of those girls ground fighting... you know? Guard, half guard, side control, how to get to 180º... Some rear naked chokes..

So you actually had to pause to deliberate and consider reasons why going after a monkey to satisfy your fetish ain't really all that kosher?
Dude, that's troubling.

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Oldsexylucy's legs look surprisingly smooth for someone who is so "natural".

It's a genetic thing, not every woman who grows out her body hair has an enormous amount on a particular area of the body, just as some girls can clover their tongues like Kaz but others can not.

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lol wrong thread ? the one you need is above

your reply is certainly wise...if you have nothing to say why you write things like this?

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The only good is a kiss and hug from a certain girl and the only evil is to be too far apart.

should i post anything stupid next time? maybe it will be more witty and positive?

jeeez ppl, she posted it here by mistake dont u c? It was ment to be somewhere else..U ppl are so ignorant:P:P

shutty!

the "ONLY" good is knowledge and the "ONLY" evil is ignorance?

That seems to be a ignorant statement...so are you evil?

not all knowledge is good.

where did that come from?

Diogenes,

Surely knowledge must be counted as a "good" and it is indisputably true that much evil is born of ignorance, but to suggest knowledge is the only good and ignorance the only evil, cannot be true even if one is painting with the broadest of brushes. Simple observation tells us there is more than one good thing or action in the world and numerous evils, natural and moral. What's more, knowledge has often been used to some evil purpose and not all ignorance results in evil.

No matter how neat and simple it might make the perennial question of Good & Evil to affirm that all Goods ultimately derive from knowledge and all Evils from ignorance, such a view contradicts the empirical evidence. Furthermore, your [or is this an attribution to your namesake, Diogenes?] statement raises more questions than it answers. For example:

1) What is knowledge? Is technical "know-how" knowledge or something else? Is practical "knowledge" of the same nature as theoretical knowledge? If not, how do they differ and should we call both "knowledge?" Is one "higher" than the other?

2) Are Good & Evil, as some maintain, two equal but opposite forces at work in the World, battling it out like two Titans? Or, as others maintain, is Evil simply a privation of the Good?

Aristotle claims, in the “Nichomachean Ethics”, that there are many “goods”, but happiness is the greatest of all goods, because it is an end in itself and it is the thing toward which all other goods aim. He says, for example, people pursue wealth (or fame or honors) in order to be happy, but no one pursues happiness in order to be wealthy. Happiness is the final aim. Without going into his whole argument Aristotle offers a definition of happiness. He says it is "an activity of the soul in conformity with virtue." (He then discusses and defines virtue…)

Your statement is provocative, Diogenes, but unless you can offer a persuasive argument in support of it, I don’t think you will convince anyone here that it is true.

Wow...that was beautiful......but I need to take an asipirin now....my head is spinning. :P Seriously....well put!

Merci Monsieur Aterix

*Asterix

It's all relative, baby.

'There goes the neighborhood!'...only kidding:). In fact every neighborhood needs a Nihilist and curmudgeon---which could be the same person. But since you are a "friendly" Nihilist, the job of curmudgeon will have to go to someone else.

So, "It's ALL relative," huh? In all seriousness, NN, would you care to expound? What is "all relative?" What is the "it" here? The question of "truth?" Good & Evil? Or are you reducing everything to a solipsism? Seriously, NN, I'd welcome your thoughts about this. Let's get a discussion going.

Quick marry him before someone else steals him from you.

Ah thx for warning, or shall i leave him for you ?

Thx for the offer but i have my own problems without being made to cry.

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With that kind of good friends you dont need enemies my dear......

Oh yes, that's for sure, Tony! He, poor thing, is so sad now that i dont' want to be his friend anymore :( :P

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No, it's sad more than anything.

Yes it's very sad. He's not nasty or bad. He's just lonely. But maybe he's lonely coz he's nasty and bad in fact ? who knows.

So it means you weren't my friend?... You never made me cry :-(

judging from this discussion your not being nice towards him, everybody is weird and no 1 is perfect, but you being too harsh about him on here... no?

guess you were talking to me...

Me ? harsh ? to him ? no dear, i just guess this given dialogue doesn't show the whole picture, believe me, i was way too nice and tha'ts what i deserved for being nice. He didn't get what he wanted, he didnt' hurt me neither made me cry, but i wasn't harsh or rude to him, he agreed with everything i said to him and about him :) don't worry, noone's feelings were hurt.

revealing a private conversation is not the coolest thing to be doing.

Agree. I would not like to read my conversation with a girl in a public forum.

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Gee trix you have been trashing your regulars lately. What does that mean for the rest of the faceless masses? Lighten up girl we all know this place is a joke.

Some of my regulars turned out to be not what i thought they are. So sad.
And yes, this site is a joke, hmmm did i post something serious ? :P

Can you really tell me that anyone here is what others think they are? The one truth in this place is everyone lies. Hosts and members almost always. Or they give half truths. Self interest is the rule. Nobody in their right mind would be 100% truthful here. You are certainly no exception.

Yeah we all lie, but i can say for sure that i never lied just for fun or just coz i'm anonymous here. I never lied to make someone feel bad or to play mind games with anyone.
When some boring sticky guy asks me if i have a bf and i say YES, is it too bad to lie liek this ? i think not as bad as to say "i love you" to a girl just to get her naked.

You reap what you sew.

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it's ok i forgive you :) And i'm not that sensitive... Ok i admit i can be, but your mum loves it... Anyway ask her all about it :)

TRIKSY, You might be cutting the guy 'too much slack', as we say. He said, "I just wanted to hurt you a bit....I wanted to make you cry." And you say the guy is not "nasty?" Of course he then swings to the other emotional extreme and says you are his "best friend." As Tony Spain says, with friends like that, who needs enemies?! I will refrain from analyzing his psychology and simply say you are generous in your assessment of his character.

I agree. Grow up Triksy.

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hope you have a great(belated apparently)birthday amazing one

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Lamurr:

U have the BEST birthday in this world ;)

congratulations!

Psss hey mack,wrong thread!!

i see,funny it got posted in 2 threads

Take a few days to knock that up?

no :--))

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hey... sometimes..

the knockup leads to church, the aisle and the priest.

Yeah, otherwise known as a "shotgun" wedding. lol!

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Many Happy returns Tina xx Enjoy ur day x

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Happy Birthday,Tinuta ! Have a blast :-) Muah !

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I have been informed that she is still eating the 200lb cake that has been delivered this morning :--)

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la multi ani tina huggles

Happy birthday BfrumoasaW (K)(K)(K)

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happy happy bdaaaaaaaaaaaaay(K)(K) Wish u all the best girl:) Mwa)

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awol knows nothing, he's lost.

Happy birthday Happy birthday !!!! :)) (K)

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Hey enjoy your day. Wish you be happy.

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hello , even if it is late i still send you my greetings and a wish u the best .....happy late birthday Tina

I will add my name late too - Happy birthday tina - hope you had a good weekend

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I was 24 yrs old before i had an orgasm and it was only when i played with myself.

I never had one...thumb dick

I not too shy say it:) But some guys will say-- its promote..
I always have orgasm, but more often multiorgasm..Its great:))

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I've had my first one when i was 18.
If u ask about having orgasm on cam, i've cummed few times on cam when i started 4 years ago.
I can't cum anymore with viewers, they r very annoying and some a huge turn off.

poor u ...

so sad,, i would not be here so long if i did not cum sometimes,
takes me long time so has to be nice guy words too,,
and cam to cam helps,
why not enjoy ??

in real not many guys make me cum so easy , older guys were best,

I NEVER HAD ORGASM NO WITH ONE MAN EXEPT MY DIRECTOR ON LAST JOB, HE CREATED ME LIKE LADY/QUEEN AND I KEPT CUM AND CUM AND CUM ALL OVER HIM FACE AND TONGUE MMMMMMM....ME 26 AND I AM STILL NOT FOUND MAN WITH SMART COCK CUZ I MUST CUM ALONE. oN VIDEO I CAN NOT CUM TOO CUZ MOST MANS DONT KNOW HOW CREAT A WOOMAN WITH WORDS OR MOVOMENTS.

I was with a girl I just pick-up at a bar banging away and she starts bucking wildly like she was having a seizure or somehting. Later she said she hasn't cum from regular sex in two years, I told her she was just tring to make me feel good and she swore it was true. that made my month, she kept cuming back for more.l
I ain;t big or small, I just know how to use it...lol

I have lots orgasms, i no how 2 please myself, it takes a very experienced viewer/bf 2 make me cum. however i dont wait around 4 for them, i use my imagination. (it never fails) unlike a lot of men.

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Here i cumming too:) But not with all men
Sure, if he come to my video for 5-10 min and first words--CUM FORE ME:))))))))))))
NO...........Never:)))))
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And..i want to say. Here in CC few men make me great cum with stars in my head

Good to know