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non liars club

there will be a meeting today in a phone booth. please attend.
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RE: non liars club

I showed up but I was the only one there.

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RE: non liars club

That's because chi lied to you about where the meeting was lol

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RE: non liars club

the liers club is being held in an auditorium. you were at the wong place.

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I thought it was held in a foorball stadium as the other venue was overcrowded

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RE: non liars club

I'm here right now..... and I dont see a phone. :p

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RE: non liars club

There's big lies and little lies. The latter exist to convince the purveyors of the former that everyone must be just as bad as them.

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RE: non liars club

Do not expect me to show up:)

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RE: non liars club

there are only white lies on CC

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RE: need an advice

hi... a few I'd recommend:

Oldies but goodies:
The Wasp Factory - Iain Banks
Generation X - Douglas Coupland
Girlfriend in a Coma - Douglas Coupland

Invisible Monsters - Chuck Palahniuk
in fact any Chuck book is a good read... he wrote the book Fight Club that became the movie.

Big Fish - Daniel Wallace
It's much better than the Tim Burton movie.

Jon

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RE: need an advice

The Prophet - K. Gibran

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RE: need an advice

"Presumed Innocent" by Scott Turow

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happy birthday darlinghelen and tafille

happy birthday to the two greatest girls on cc.have a wonderful day darlinghelen and tafille and many more birthdays to come.hope all your wishes come true .
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RE: happy birthday darlinghelen and tafille

happy bday anya and nastya

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RE: happy birthday darlinghelen and tafille

Happy Birthday Nastya and Anya!!! Have a great time on a special day. Especially you Nastya have a wonderful birthday..

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RE: happy birthday darlinghelen and tafille

figures i wouldnt get a thx...next time i get it to myself

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RE: happy birthday darlinghelen and tafille

ya..whatever maya...she upset at wrong person..i did nothing wrong to her...but like i said..will remain silent next time

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RE: happy birthday darlinghelen and tafille

hi taffika(K)(K)gappy bday to u muahhh

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RE: Question for both memebrs and chathosts about contests

The last game was totally in the hands of the members and if they did not feel like playing, then no matter how much money you made or how much desire to win the prize you have, you will win zero... A very efficient way to get a prize is by the amount of money that a chahost can make during the contest. The winner takes it all!!!
About puzzle...I won't be too much excited when the puzzle is on next time because all what I got after the last puzzle was the pure disappointment.

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RE: Question for both memebrs and chathosts about contests

None of the above.

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RE: Question for both memebrs and chathosts about contests

I've won a puzzle on in the past. But I hate that its pure luck.
I enjoyed the last puzzle, because it required a little skill, but it detracts from the reason alot of guys are here. Who wants to pay for a show, but solve a puzzle instead? And this puzzle needed alot of attention if you didnt know the host right away.
True it was one sided that the Host had no control, but playing devils advocate, how would your viewers feel if they came for a show and you worked the puzzle. No rev, low rating.

I personally , mixed it up this puzzle, did some shows with hosts that weren't interested in playing and play with other hosts that were intersted in playing. Ana here being one of the players (K) good guesser and a hot alli. Even through in a little show in between letters.

Keeping on topic. ...
Like a game that doesnt detract from why we spend money.
Like a game thats not just pure chance divided by money spent.

Maybe, a game that time spent would go into a time bank to spend time playing a game of skill. I dunno.

2cents ;)

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RE: Question for both memebrs and chathosts about contests

I liked puzzles too, well not actually LIKED but they were the best from all offered games. As for the last contest, i think its just a silly idea. Most guys come here for what? For a show, not to play some game, catch letters or stuff. At the beginning i was asking guys who were commin to my room, if they wanna play it or not. And guess what? NONE of them agreed to play. Not even 1. So i stopped asking, and decided not to bother. And by the way, the traffic was so slow for me, cuz many of members i guess decided to stay off cc during the contest, cuz as DirtyPunk said, they dont wanna see a host with dollar sign in her eyes. And i agree, some girls are obsessed with contests, and it freaks guys out.

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RE: Question for both memebrs and chathosts about contests

well said Moni.

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RE: Question for both memebrs and chathosts about contests

HELLO DEAR =)) I PREFER TOP 20.. BEACOUSE MEMBERS MUSH VOTE FROM SHOW.. NOT TO SEARCH FOR HOSTS, NOT TO GUESS THE PICTURE, AND NOT TO HOPE FOR GOOD LUCK (I ABOUT PUZZZLES) THEY COME FOR FUN AND SHOULD VOTE EACH HOST FOR SHOW

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RE: Question for both memebrs and chathosts about contests

How about a contest based on the minutes spent in video instead of dollars? ;)

I can dream cant I lol

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fao EXPERIENCED CAM GUY

u wanted facts about someone who was in LT nd M and who meet someone.Well i was and i did meet someone,and i did married that someone.so that fact enough for u?
not gonna get into details why i m here now,etc etc
u wanted to hear that and u did now
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RE: fao EXPERIENCED CAM GUY

Congrats!! :D I have heard of at least two such instantance I consider credible!!

Best of luck to you!!

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Have you ever wondered?

How Superman gets his hair cut..

Kryptonite scissors ?
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RE: Have you ever wondered?

Nuh! He was really a long haired hippie.. always high as a kite..

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RE: Have you ever wondered?

jokes from the 50's? we getting that desperate around here........lol

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RE: Have you ever wondered?

I gave up on Smallville after it's last season.

In the 60's DC explained that superman "cut" his hair by burning it with his own heat vision reflected in a mirror. Later they realized how lame that was and decide to change it to his hair not growing while he had his power. It grows normally if he loses his power such as under a red sun. Equally lame I think and lamer still that I know this.

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RE: Have you ever wondered?

Great Caesar's Ghost! Not even I come up with story like that, and I run a news paper..

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RE: Have you ever wondered?

It's gonna suck with Lex gone. First, Lionel, now Lex. Those two made the show. Although, Lex is supposed to make a few guest appearances, so maybe it won't be total crap.

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RE: Have you ever wondered?

I always wondered, and never figured it out....whack, whack, whack....

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to hosts

do you let your bf watch your sessions with other guys?
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sure bb. i have spare room in exchange for free show.

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RE: to hosts

I was just about to ask you out on a date too :(

Looks like I'll have to ask Avr0ra to marry me instead :P

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RE: to hosts

You're still my number one choice but as you didn't accept I assumed the answer was no :P

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RE: to hosts

Agree. Same here))

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Would he at least get a discount on the show if he came in through CC?

How cool would that be!!! See a hot cam girl dance and strip and wish you were there, and walk into the next room and be there.

:)

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Lol to get one, first, try to learn not to call them "cam girls";)

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Oh crap!! Is that bad? (scared) I always say that. (scared) They never seem to mind...

Damit!! I just had my foot removed from my mouth.

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RE: to hosts

i was thinking of letting my wife watch me watch you....

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kinda creepy...is what I say...

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RE: yeyeey

So, why not share your windfall with charity? Don't thank CC, thank all the members, not just a couple, from whose pockets are now lining yours.

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RE: yeyeey

Why do you always have to be so unpleasant? ...Well done chaneldoll.

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the idea of being charitable is unpleasant to you?

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Now that the game is over

Now that the game is over it would be nice to know how much the winners actually spent compared to their prize money. I have a feeling they are not too happy right now or have money to burn. The hosts and CC make a killing on these games from addicted members. Long live Capitalism!!!
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I assume it wasn't a jigsaw puzzle this time.
I spent a shitload of time in video, never did read the rules of this game and had one of the best and longest video sessions I've had on this site. The only time the game was mentioned was "Are you playing the game?"... "Nope. Don't care"... "Me neither".. The video session was one of the most fun and funniest that I've ever had.
I came for fun and entertainment and got exactly that without all the distractions of the game, so for me this was the best game yet. :D

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yup.

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RE: Now that the game is over

MB next time a game for the members?

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RE: Now that the game is over

take the points and divide by 100. then multiply by $5.00 to give minimum spent.

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RE: Now that the game is over

You say that the winner spent at least $1.00 for each 20 points won. What is the basis for that calculation? I played the game in three sessions and averaged about 35 points for each dollar spent. If I was more familiar with hosts pics and with more practice I guess I might have got this up to 50 points a dollar. On that basis the winner spent $4612 and won $5,500. Second place spent $2780 and won $3,500. What is surprising is that is that the winner kept on spending when he was so far in the lead.

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I think it was 100 points per letter remaining rather than 100 points per correct guess.

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dont know about that..i played the game for just one session(what the heck) and ended up with 1600 pts for about 50$ spent....

id say if you committed to it, and used a little strategy(restarting sessions until a long hostname comes up, split up search responsibility between u and host, etc..), it would have been hard to do worse than about 5000 pts per hundred dollars(which is still a losing proposition, at any rate).

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RE: Now that the game is over

agreed, those who were just unlucky enough to finish outside the top 10 will be kicking themselves...having spent the better part of a grand(or more??) to play the game and get nothing in return.

that said, i have to say that this contest was a pretty fair one. if u've spent alot of time here, and spent alot of time playing the game, u should have done well. and if you're like me, and visit not too often and have only video'd with a handful of hosts, the contest couldnt possibly reward you. my only nitpick was the way the rewards were handed out. it should have been cash to all parties, not just hosts..

ohh and congrats to all the winners, dont spend it all in one place(or on one host)

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RE: lmCinderella

hehehhe too cute :))) big kisssssssssssss almost love u

Guys shes too funny too sexy and too sweet dont miss her ;)

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Yeyeyeyeyey

Thanks to all the friends that played the game with me, kiss to my dear friend Ben, Tigerman5 you rock (great guesser)!!! Congrats to all the winners :) AND thanks to CamContacts that brings us nice games on the site :*:*:*
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RE: For travellers

I wanna go to Hawaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii:):) And learn that lil cute dance)))))))

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RE: For travellers

mmmm, monika in a grass skirt and a coconut bra. now where's that damn phone number for the travel agent?

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RE: For travellers

Hawaii is one of my favorite places. I go about every other year. It is fun!!!!

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RE: For travellers

shameless solicitation always works for me.

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RE: For travellers

Nepal.

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RE: For travellers

I want to visit Russia !!!!! And I will coz I will study 6 months in St Petersburg next year ;-)
I want also visit Canada, New Zealand, Japan and Ireland.
And also visit all great places of my country I still didn't see, in France (sometimes you don't need to go far to see great things)

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RE: For travellers

I would like to see things rather than pick a place. Such as the Great Wall of Chine, The Pyramids, Angel Falls, The Grand Canyon etc.

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RE: For travellers

The Grand Canyon is outsatnding. Beautiful standing on the rim and different but facinating down at the bottom

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RE: For travellers

St Peterburg the architecture is better than aris oh yes my dream


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RE: For travellers

Italy.
Any place with ancient history and cool architecture.. Mayan ruins, European castles..
I might go to Niagra Falls (Canadian side) for a couple days next month. Not exactly an exotic trek and it's only about an hour drive away, but still it's pretty cool to see once in a while, and it's been a while for me.

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RE: For travellers

Where to begin. Tahiti for sure. Hawaii is too commercial. Europe all over. As a backpacker. Staying in hostels. Living there for a couple of years. Asia. Hong Kong, China. Japan. South America...Machu Picchu...Buenos Aires....Tierra del Fuego. I love to travel. Anybody want to come with me?

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RE: For travellers

Been in Cuba and want back there! Viva la revolucion y el Che!

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RE: For travellers

how can anyone hero-worship that muderous thug? i mean, he personnaly authorized the execution of children for god's sake!

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RE: For travellers

I know a few people who have vacationed in Cuba. Every one of them loved it.

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RE: For travellers

cuba is great for foreign tourists - theyre always free to leave and return home.

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RE: For travellers

a cuban cigar will suit you ))

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RE: For travellers

Been all over Western Europe and Canada and The United States. I would still like to visit Romania and Ukraine.

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RE: For travellers

I want to go to Antartica . All is white and so peacful ))

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RE: For travellers

..at least until the tourist boats start rolling in.

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RE: For travellers

My favorite fruit . So pink inside
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RE: For travellers

Ah i forgot LOndon...I sooooooo wanna go there)

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RE: For travellers

impressive idea. the best so far.

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RE: For travellers

Exotic Places.... hmmmm

Jells bedroom, Annas bedroom, Sevtas bedroom, Oksanas bedroom, Khistines bedroom, Tanyas bedroom, Nikas bedroom, Renetas bedroom, Arahs bedroom...

Sorry... had to :-0

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RE: For travellers

Zanzibar is one place I really want to go to --even the name is exotic.

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RE: For travellers

Giime Paris anytime))) And not cuz of shopping, i guess im not a real girls in this sense))) Just..The spirit of this city, tiny cute streets...Small caffes, smell of fresh bread mmmmm)) Happy memories)

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Horrible city, horrible residents, horrible horrible horrible place.

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RE: For travellers

Paris-horrible?:O:O Wow...I wonder in what city one got to be living to consider Paris a bad place lol

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agree terrible city

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Tastes differ

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RE: HOW TO TELL IF IT IS REAL FRIENDSHIP....WITH MEMBER

lol Yes I think we all have to agree that there are bad members as well as bad hosts. I gave up trying to figure out the good hosts from the bad hosts hence my name.

I am now just here to see sexy girls get naked. Saves me a lot of money and possibly heartache.

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RE: HOW TO TELL IF IT IS REAL FRIENDSHIP....WITH MEMBER

Equally as bad as hosts who pretend friendship to make money. Sex and money. Beyond that expect nothing and you won't be disappointed.

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RE: HOW TO TELL IF IT IS REAL FRIENDSHIP....WITH MEMBER

Nice, you said "Equally as bad as hosts who pretend friendship to make money." That was exactly the point of my post which IMAO completely missed.

IMAO, I'm not denying that will be bad members who will try to take advantage of things once a Host gives out her Yahoo ID. As you said, the member might ask for free shows or pictures. But if that starts to happen then clearly the member has given himself away. He's revealed his true intentions. Because now the Host will know the member was ONLY interested in free sex and NOT in becoming real friends. So if a member starts to act that way the Host should delete him off her buddy list because his intentions weren't sincere.

I think we can agree on that. But that was the whole POINT of my post because now let's flip it around. My story was about a Host who said she was romantically interested in me. She said she loved me. She lived alone, worked at home, and not in a studio. Yet she wouldn't turn on her cam for even a 10 minute friendly chat when she wasn't working so we could talk about her day or anything at all. If I wanted to see her I was expected to pay every single time.

So here's a straight question for you, IMAO, and this goes with what "Nice" said about mixing friendship and money: What kind of Host who says she wants to be your friend...who says that her intentions are sincere...who says that she cares about you or even that she loves you...would then turn around and still CHARGE YOU to have friendly chat when she's not working? What kind of Host who says she wants to be your friend (or more) would make you PAY to see her when she's off the clock and its her own private personal time? Like "Nice" said its a bad sign when a Host so clearly mixes her friendship with money.

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RE: HOW TO TELL IF IT IS REAL FRIENDSHIP....WITH MEMBER

I lied to a host here. She was my friend and probably was really in love with me. I certainly loved her. I lied because I found out she lied. Not a big deal really. She left CC. Not a day goes by that I don't think of her and regret what I did. Sorry Triksy.

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RE: HOW TO TELL IF IT IS REAL FRIENDSHIP....WITH MEMBER

Huh? You say you're sorry you lied, but then you say "I lied because I found out she lied." So it sounds like she started it by lying first.

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RE: HOW TO TELL IF IT IS REAL FRIENDSHIP....WITH MEMBER

so both members and hosts lie. no biggie. this is not a dating site.

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RE: HOW TO TELL IF IT IS REAL FRIENDSHIP....WITH MEMBER

It's "no biggie"? I would say if we could pair up lying Hosts with lying members...where they clearly deserve each other...then its no biggie.

In other other case, yes, it's a "biggie." Or are you somehow saying that you think lying to another person is a GOOD thing?

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RE: HOW TO TELL IF IT IS REAL FRIENDSHIP....WITH MEMBER

this is a fantasy site! of course the women here aren't completely truthfull - they're paid not to be honest but to tell the members what they want to hear!

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RE: HOW TO TELL IF IT IS REAL FRIENDSHIP....WITH MEMBER

I\'ve had hosts on my yahoo contact list who couldn\'t say hi without trying to get a pay session or some king of money out of me. And I have some whom I\'ve gotten along with in video so we still chat away from the site just for friendly chat. Note the past tense on the first type.
Like was said above, there are good and bad of both hosts and members. But the bad ones are easy to get rid of, and you don\'t really miss them when they are gone.

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RE: HOW TO TELL IF IT IS REAL FRIENDSHIP....WITH MEMBER

Sorry IMAO, its never easy. We're not all bad, nor are all the hosts bad. It does go both ways. I think there's reason to be cautious on both sides of the dollar sign. Its easy on both sides to get caught up in the allure of international relationships, experiences never had, and stuff like that. Yes a little bit of experience in those words. Life goes on, time heals.

Take Care IMAO

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RE: HOW TO TELL IF IT IS REAL FRIENDSHIP....WITH MEMBER

I have several hosts on my yahoo chat list. The ones who always ask for videos never stay long. I do videos when I can.
I will ask for pictures, but if she does not have any or seems bothered by the request I will not ask for them again. (I can always lift them off the site)
I have become such good friends with one girl that she does not want me to see her in video anymore.
Another girl I explained her pre-nup to her.

It all depends on the girl how long we chat. I understand that she is at work, and can't chat sometimes.

I'm also good at checking homework.

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New, UPCUMMING Anal Queen

nitenotte, great tits but what she does with her behind is fantastic, she is just starting but has to be a rising star
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One night,after the couple had retired for the evening,the woman became aware that her husband was touching her in a most unusual manner.he started by running his hand across her shoulders & across the small of her back.he then ran his hand over her breasts,touching very lightly.then he proceeded to run his hand gently down her side,sliding his hand over her stomach & then down the other side to the lowest part of her waist.
he continued on gently feeling her hips,first 1 side & then the other..his hand ran further down the outside of her thighs.his gentle probing then started up the inside of her left thigh,stopped then returned to do the same to her right thigh.and then......he suddenly stopped & rolled over to his side of the bed.
"why are you stopping,darling?"she whispered.
he whispered"i found the remote." :--)
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lol and the house key he lost two weeks ago.

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ahhhhhchoooo!!!!

A man & a woman were beside each other in the first-class section of a plane. the woman sneezed,took out a tissue,gently wiped her nose,then visibly shuddered for 10-15 seconds.the man went back to his reading.
a few minutes later the woman sneezed again,took out a tissue wiped her nose & shuddered violently once more.assuming the woman might have a cold,the man was still curious about the shuddering.
a few more minutes passed then the woman sneezed again.as before,she took a tissue,wiped her nose,her body shaking even more than before.unable to restrain his curiousity,the man turned to the woman & said"i couldn't help but notice that you've sneezed 3 times,wiped your nose then shuddered violently.are you ok?"
"i'm sorry if i disturbed you;i have a very rare medical condition.whenever i sneeze i have an orgasm."
the man more than a bit embarrassed,was still curious"i have never heard of that condition before,"he said"are you taking anything for it?"
the woman nodded"pepper." :--)
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RE: ahhhhhchoooo!!!!

pepper girl where are you :)

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How is camcontacts ..

I would like to join here.. thats why i am asking about its facility..
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RE: How is camcontacts ..

If you want your head screwd up come in

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RE: How is camcontacts ..

Some host go out of their way to make you angry i dont know why (((

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RE: How is camcontacts ..

Very nice but recommend not so shy and instant action categories. Avoid shy and glamour.

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RE: How is camcontacts ..

good, but not all do

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RE: How is camcontacts ..

I totally disagree. Shy and Glamour are good -- the girls at least spend some time talking to you, which means you can get a better sense of them. And at a cam site it's always good to keep your protective guard up and find a trustworthy host or you'll find your wallet quickly drained and the whole experience soured.

I'd say avoid (or be extremely careful) about the girls of Instant Action. Quite a few in there are liars about being single (they have BFs or husbands at home). The IA girls are also the most notorious players. They'll give you an instant show to make you instantly like them, and then in the after glow of sex they'll start the old sales pitch. They'll say they're only 're here because they need money to help their family or they come from a poor country and there's no other jobs. And worst of all they can't find a nice guy in their hometown. So they'll put on a hot show and then give you the pity party sales pitch, and before you know it the fish hook is in. Funniest of all, they'll also tell you how much it meant to them being with you this way, and that they felt an instant connection romantically even though this was your first time meeting. Yes, they actually use BS lines like that too. I know one host working in IA that has it down to an art form.

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RE: How is camcontacts ..

Run the cards to the max, ruin your credit, sell the house, spend threes times daily the amount you make in a day, check yourself into an additcion clinic and realize that all the girls around you are just not as pretty and sexy as you thought.

Just do that, saves time and anguish. ;) lol

But seriously.. great place, sorry I found it. ;)

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RE: couldn't be silent...

lots of talk about LTM but u got to ask why a host there would also be in glamour or shy if she was just interested in meeting her soul mate.

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In defense of Cam Girls

In defense of the Hosts, I can understand a girl being in LTM because she might want to meet a nice guy, but unfortunately by being in that particular category she's not getting the overall customer traffic she needs and thus she's not making the money she needs to pay her bills each month. Let's face it, most guys come to a cam site for sex and nudity, so they're not looking at LTM as the category where they'll get a girl to strip fast and for little money. So to compensate for that, I can understand that a Host might choose to appear in other categories as well in order to get the traffic she needs and to make the money she needs to get by.

But as we all debated in another thread, I think LTM is a category that should be abolished anyway simply because it is so deceitful. It is a category that is setting a guy up for real heartbreak and a bad fall. The truth is its filled with girls who really do have BFs or husbands at home and they are just misleading lonely guys by playing them for all its worth. Which frankly is rather inhuman and cruel, so some of the girls working that category should be ashamed of themselves (and they know who they are).

I'm willing to take all of that back if you can produce for me a Host who did want to find a soul mate or find marriage so she appeared in LTM... she then chatted with dozens and dozens of guys... and then she did actually meet with someone. She didn't have to marry him, but prove to me she went as far as meeting a customer in person and for a face-to-face date. That would at least prove to me that her intentions and her appearance in that category was for honest reasons.

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RE: couldn't be silent...

if a host is here not to make money, why would she charge men here money to see her?

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RE: couldn't be silent...

Afriend of mine was asked to join long term marraige by her studio.......1 problem....she was already married....belive what you want...... just do not be offended when it is not love

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I like your post, but don't agree with all of it. For example, I certainly have sympathy for any Host who feels stalked. I don't think a Host should have to give up her personal information after 5 minutes. I understand that a Host will want to protect her privacy from online crazies. But let's be clear about something too. Stalking to me would be a guy seeing a Host under several false names to keep an eye on her. Stalking would be a guy charting when or where she appears as she works, maybe even writing down the names of her guests in free chat to keep track of who she is talking to. Stalking would be a guy jealously demanding that a Host tell him where she was that day since her schedule was different (when the truth is she simply went to the doctor or grocery store). I think we can all agree that stalking is a very serious and bad thing.

On the other hand there's a BIG difference between that and asking for personal information after only 5 minutes versus expecting some very real and very honest answers from a Host after you've spent a lot of time with her. If you've spent months seeing a Host and developing a relationship, and if she says you are now a real friend to her...or if she says that she loves you now...then I don't think it's unreasonable for a guy to ask for her real name, real phone number, real address, etc.

You girls can't have this both ways. It's not fair. You can't tell a guy that you really like him and you want to be closer to him, but then turn around and say you need to protect your privacy and that gives you the excuse to drag things out forever. Because here's the truth and we all know it -- time only works to the HOST'S benefit. It means a guy has to keep spending more and more money to prove he's sincere about his feelings, but he's not getting anything in return. Once a Host says she wants to be friends away from work -- and certainly if she says the words "I love you" and indicates that she wants to take things to a new level -- she should be prepared to give out her information to back those words up. Otherwise its clearly a scam and you should be ashamed of yourselves for working the guy over like that.

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wow,you seem to know a lot of stalker behaviour,things i would never of considered.you could of written the book on stalker bedhaviour or maybe it's from years of refining your behaviour.ExperiencedCamGuy,is one of how many nicks you have?girls watch out for this one!!! :--) p.s joking i hope.

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LOL I'm a good guy Tisme, I promise! :) But I'm familiar with the kinds of behavior I listed because I've seen and heard things first hand. I have friends in law enforcement, plus I have a close friend who specializes in Internet security that has told me some truly wild stories. I also have a female friend whose ex BF turned into a loon and gave her grief for years, and I even have a male friend whose ex GF did the same thing to him.

So as I said before I understand how a Host might feel when a customer starts to act a certain way. But from my law & security friends, I can also tell you lots of horror stories of men and women who have been scammed by online "love artists" -- people who said they were interested in developing a friendship or romance, and who then started to financially milk their victims. That's a really big problem online these days. So I can appreciate how some Hosts might feel stalked at times...but I can ALSO appreciate how a customer might feel when a Host says "I like you a lot" or even tells him "I love you" and then starts to take advantage of his feelings so she can milk him for more & more money. There's bad people on both sides of this.

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terrific group of mind readers you've attracted here

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What do you mean mind readers?

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how the members know exactly what every host thinks. simply amaqzing everytime :p

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Mens Fashion

Guys, do you wear white socks?

Woman, is it Ok for men to wear white socks? If yes, when?
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I wear white socks, gray socks and black socks.
Also, I wear only black jeans and usually boots so the socks aren't really visible out in public anyway... except when I take them off to show people my corns.

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Budgie smugglers and thongs for me

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rarely wear dark socks, only with a suit and tie. Dark socks are for nerds. Long live white socks!

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beige shorts(with imitation leather belt of course)short sleeved polyester shirt(preferably in check or spot patterns),sandals & knee-high white socks for a quiet sunday down the bowlo.any other way or time is a fashion faux pas

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that outfit is a faux pas in the privacy of ur own home//////lol

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sounds like mondo wear:P

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only with white sneakers:)

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<raises hand> White Socks!!

Whats wrong with white socks? <scracthes head>

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Usually wear NO SOCKS - only wear them when necessary.

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I only own white socks, cheapest I can find. How else could I afford to ever come here lol.

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Amen Brother!!

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How to tell if its a REAL friendship with a Host

IF you ever meet a Host online and hit it off...and IF she says she wants to continue a real friendship (or more) away from the site... here's one way to see IF she means it. Ask her to do something very simple -- ask her to turn on her cam when she's not working. See what happens or how she reacts then because it will be very telling.

I once met a Host and we hit it off. In fact, she said she liked me so much she even wanted to pursue a romance. This Host lived alone and worked out of her apartment and not a studio. So we started trading emails, chatting online, but a problem arose. Whenever she was NOT working and we would chat, I would send her my cam but she would refuse to turn hers on. I NEVER wanted a free sex show or anything like that. I understood the difference between paying her to do her job versus talking to her as a real woman away from work. But she wouldn't let me see her AT ALL unless money exchanged hands -- not even for a quick 10 minute chat to ask how was your day? Even for something as simple as that she wanted me to pay to see her. And remember this is coming from a Host who says she likes me romantically and who wants to spend time with me as a PERSON.

Then I met another Host who said she wanted to be friends too. However, she put actions to words. Whenever she isn't working, she'll send me an IM to say hi and seconds later will send her cam, no questions asked. And then she'll just chat and joke around and time is never an issue. It's just 2 friends talking. There have been times when she'll send me her cam and she's not even at home. Instead she's in an Internet Cafe sipping a coffee or reading a magazine. She's online because she was out for the day shopping, and while she was taking a break at the cafe she just wanted to say hello. And we trade emails and photos and all sorts of stuff the way real friends do.

Now THAT is a Host who wants to be a REAL friend. She's even willing to spend money out of her own pocket at a Cafe to stay in touch. And there's no drama, no excuses, and there's never been a single mention of money. THAT is a Host who is acting like a REAL woman now and who is NOT treating you like a paycheck. So put the shoe on the other foot. Let the Host prove to you that its not about the money. Let HER act like a real person away from her job. That's the way real people act and that's how you can tell IF it's a genuine friendship or not.
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RE: How to tell if its a REAL friendship with a Host

very rare to find such a friend like that. usually money is involved or if you max your card out, guess what..... you lose that "friend".

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RE: How to tell if its a REAL friendship with a Host

I tend to agree that a host who give you free or highly discounted videos has feeling for you beyond money. I know many hosts are not in a position in their studios to lower prices. I also know this a place of business, a job for hosts and asking them to give you free videos is like asking a candy store clerk to fork over some free candy because you want her to prove she likes you. However, bottom line, a host who gives up some income by giving you a free or cheap video is negating the argument that she is here just for the money. I have had a few lower their prices and only a handful throw me a free video and I must say it did make me feel differently about them.

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Agreed Gosh. If a Host gives me a freebie vid or cuts her rate a bit (which has happened a few times) I'm more willing to buy further time with her since she was nice to me. One back scratches the other. And "take it from me" is right. If a Host is willing to cam and chat away from work without asking for money then you know you've made a real friend. One nice thing about the cam world is that its easy to tell the nice girls from the fakes and wallet hunters pretty damn quick.

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I failed to mention that at the reduced rate I did hours not minutes. I also paid full price plus when she was in a bind for money. But overall I got the better deals...says a lot to me.

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RE: How to tell if its a REAL friendship with a Host

I can usually tell all I need to know when having sex and she is kissing with passion or if she avoids kissing…

Virtual is Virtual, video is video, for me the truths start when physically together, until that happens all can be games from either the man or the woman…

I don’t need virtual friendships that involve money…

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One time I tried a host I thought was pretty damn cute. She still works here. Great in free chat and nicer in vid. Killer smile and so damn sweet. Told me repeatedly she was single and looking. So I started to see her regularly and really dig her. We started to trade letters and chat off site. Thought we were getting even closer. Then one day as we're going at it hot and heavy in vid I said something romantic and she gets really upset and stops. Turned out it was something her BF said when they had sex and it set her off. So then she has to admit she isn't single and had been lying all along about being interested in me. I was damn pissed she had led me on but I thought it was ironic it took a hot moment to make her lose her cool and slip up on her act.

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dude I have a complete flip on ur story. a host i use to reg told me she was single. in vid she liked sweet talk so one time i wanted her to say something to up the emotion then she stops cold cuz it was somthing she sez to her bf in bed. she tells me she cant go on cuz she can only say it to him. that killed the mood and stopped me from regging her anymore. like u said fake single game over.

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This should be required reading for guys using a cam site for the first time so they get b*tch slapped up the head to warn them how cam girls work. BTW: went thru the same deal with a host that wanted to get close but wouldn't turn on her cam unless I wired cash first. Claimed her manager wouldn't let her to talk to a guy even on her own time unless she still got paid. WTF???!!!!!!!!???

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Don't feel bad Tony. That's one of the oldest tricks that a Host will pull to keep stringing along a customer. Whenever they want to avoid telling the truth or avoid doing something, there's always a manager or studio boss that they suddenly report to who forbids them from saying or doing something. It's the easy out that Hosts use.

There's this asian host I started to like. We buddied each other on Yahoo. The other day she starts up a chat. I throw her my cam and like this thread says she won't throw hers back. When I asked why not she tells me she's using an old version of Yahoo and it doesn't have cam ability. I say why don't you download a new version so we can see each other. There's a long pause and I can tell she's thinking. She then says her boss won't let her change anything on the computer. This was the first time she even mentioned a boss tho we'd talked several times. I say why don't you ask for permission to upgrade. Then we can see each other for friend chats like this. Another long pause and she says thats okay I can see her when she works. Of course we can since that means breaking out my credit card. She then says she likes me and can I come see her now in vid. I said I'd think about it and never went. Seemed clear we were only Yahoo buddies so she could drum up business when she needed it.

Screw it. I won't pay to talk to my friends. She would've done better by sayin she was horny and needed to get off quick. Then I might have gone. But I wasn't buying what she was selling anymore. The spell was broken.

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Stuidio bosses dont let hosts send their cams from free on yahoo jeez...Its obvious-yahoo cam=less paying customers=less money. Is it so hard to understand?

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Then why add a person to your Yahoo buddy list in the first place, MonikaBabe? If you can't freely talk or cam with a guy on your own private time and when you're not working then how are you ever going to become real friends? How can a guy be friends with a Host when money is always the bottom line to her? And if you say 'you can always spend time with her in video chat' then you've proved the argument that the guys are making here today. You're saying I have to pay every time I want to talk to a friend. I don't mind paying to see a girl strip or to get a sex show but who pays to have a chat with their friends?

When the Hosts add guys to their buddy lists its not about becoming real friends. Its about lining up customers that you can quickly call on when its a slow day and you need to drum up more business.

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Pffff not always. SOmetimes its boring to sit online doing nothing, and its fun to chat to someone on yahoo WITH NO CAM. Or is it nessesary for u to see the yahoo buddy? NO cam=no convo on yah? Lol thats just silly. I was working in stud long ago and i know how it works. Bosses sometimes unpload yahoo or msn but make it impossible to use the cam. Cus cams are their business, so why wud they make it possibe for hosts to use yahoo cam for free? Stop blaming hosts in all bad that happens in the world.

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If a girl is working and gets bored sitting around on a slow day and turns on her Yahoo to pass some time chatting, I can understand her not turning on her cam too. After all she's still working. So I have no problem with your argument there, Monika. In that case you're right. It is silly that no cam = no convo on Yahoo.

But its totally different when that same girl tells a guy that she really likes him and when she's NOT working that she STILL won't turn on her cam when they chat. When she's (supposedly) at home in her off hours and free to do whatever she wants in her own private life. That's where you girls lose this argument.

"Take it from me" said in his post that he was willing to pay to see her at her job (stripping or doing a show). He was still willing to give her SOME money. However his complaint was that she ALWAYS wanted money to turn on her cam. She told him she wanted a romantic relationship, but even in her private time she wouldn't turn on her cam unless she got paid. So to quote you, Monika: LOL that's just silly.

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Guess I have a real friend here then, she's gone to internet cafe and rented PC time, with cam if available, just so I could see her when we chat on Yahoo.

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That is so true! Luckily, I know someone who is just like your host who put words into action!

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I'll second and third what you guys said. In my cam travels I've met many hosts that I thought were nice and I buddied them on messenger. Then they absolutely refused to ever turn on their cams whenever we chatted after hours and away from their work. How ridiculous is that. You're talking to a professional cam girl and she tells you she can't turn on her cam while you're talking as friends. As if her cam magically disappeared. Then I met a few other hosts who buddied me and they would turn theirs on after work to have a good chat.

I deleted the girls from Group One and they lost my business. And that was significant since I'm a sex addict that spends thousands on this a year. No prob to me. I have the money and its fun. Now all the girls in Group Two get my business because they treat me nice and I feel they're sincere. They're making a mint now.

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RE: How to tell if its a REAL friendship with a Host

Some girls ask a friend to chat with the guy when he is online on yahoo and they are not - just to keep up the "friendship" and of course some excuse about the cam must be told. A model told me this once.

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I was taken in by host here, just like many others members. My head was telling me its all a lie, but my heart was telling me she is just perfect, and I fell for her.
Looking back all the signs were looking right back at me that I was being taken for a fool.

1. When I phoned her, she only answered (rarely) while working.
2. Only sent SMS messages, while working. Oh yes and her first message to me was to tell me she was working on CC now, and what her name was here. There was no "hi, you ok?" This after 5 weeks of not seeing or hearing from her.
3. Said she wanted to meet in real, but whenever I suggested a time to come visit she was always claiming to be away. She then claimed she wanted to arrange the accommadation as a surprise, this never happened as she could not afford it, (told me this 48 hours before leaving webcam, although I did not know at the time she was leaving), a delay tactic.
4. I got the "I love you", so I asked what you remember of me, her answer, "I have a bad memory, I always forget things" in other words she remembered nothing because I mean nothing to her.
5. Just before leaving (48 hours) she claimed to have lost her phone on a train, again I knew nothing of her leaving.

There are many many more things that happened too, that I won't bore you with here. But she lied 90% of the time the whole friendship was a lie, and she was always crying near the end of her time here. Maybe if she had treated members with more respect (I know I was not the only one she did this too) she could of been a decent person and probably enjoy her time here more.

In the end, she came here to decieve and create false friendships, that went far beyond the world of fantasy, and in the end she could not handle the lies and games she had created. All in the name of making money.

You can make money through lies in the short term, but in the end it will come back to haunt you. In order for those lies to keep away, you have to create bigger lies, and in the end the lie takes over and you pay the price. What goes around, comes around.

I can say, that most hosts here could not care less if a (regular) member drops dead. They will find a new one to replace them.

A MEMBER IS NOTHING MORE THAN A CASH MACHINE TO EXPLOIT AT EVERY CHANCE THEY GET, YOU MEAN NOTHING.

You want friendship, CLOSE THE WALLET and see what happens. Or just get out of the house.

I thank you, rant over

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An excellent post & very informative. It might save some guys a lot of money!

Would any host care to explain the 'closed cam rule'?

It seems that some of the girls are using 'supposed friendship' as an inventive type of marketing strategy.

Looking at this from the other side of things. When i first started using cam sites one girl in particular could have totally creamed my credit card coz i was smitten with her. However she told me straight that she was a professional & was not interested in friendship. Apparently she had been burned by a couple of guys & was too wise to let it happen again. She now has a 'proper job' ( her phrase) & is only rarely online. When she is online it is always a pleasure & a privilege to chat with her. I think i'll ask her about the unofficial 'closed cam rule'

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Geeeeeee....This is a paid cam site and girls come here to earn money. Got my point?

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why that isn't glaringly obvious to some members here, i have no idea.

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Why does that make them smart? What if a Host and a Member like each other and they want to be friends? That's pretty cynical of you to say they're only smart if they never get in touch.

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Sure but this happens tooooo rare trust me))

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Geee first of all, my message wasnt for u but for "Dont be so cynical". I mean its really rare when a host and a member really really like each other and consider each other like a bf and a gf. And oh, i know it, cause i work on this site for 3 year already.

I totally agree abt all u said, so read carefully next time;)

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Other sites say the girls can't talk to the guests away from the site or else they'll be fired, but no one pays attention to that. The easiest way around it is for a guy to say "I know you can't give out your email, but there's no rule that says I can't give you mine" -- at which point he types it into the chat window...she marks it down...and then she will say to any Admin that is monitoring the chat logs that she never intends to email the guy. And then of course she does. And we all know the other trick that goes on, so let's stop pretending it doesn't. A Host will say "Look at my screen VERY closely" -- and then they'll use their cam to put up their email or phone number on the screen. That way there's no record of it in the chat logs since it appeared on screen.

As to whether its a good idea or not for the two worlds to mingle, I think its great when a Host and a Member become real friends. I've made a few myself and those girls are very sweet and they are real women to me now. They're not Hosts at all, they're flesh and blood women with real lives and things we can talk about. But like many guys, I totally hate it when a Host says she wants to friends or more and it's all a game to simply get more money out of you off site. I learned my lesson the hard way and had my heart broken by a Host who did that. So its all a crap shoot, but that's life I guess.

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Raise of Hands.. viewers been asked...

-Raise of hands... How many viewers have been asked for money help from their "Cam Lovers"

<raises hand> Twice! Ended the "Friendship" both times. Not another communication after the ask.

Yea, everything was going great, cam, Yahoo, Yahoo cam, then the bombshell. I need an operation, I'm losing my apartment, I need school tuition.

Moral of the story, even after the outline good intentions, one still needs to be ware. Money truly is the root of all evil, I believe it turns good people into bad ones.

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Money. My one true God :)

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RE: How to tell if its a REAL friendship with a Host

outstanding post, it had to be said sooner or later. good on ya.

been on both sides of the coin myself. and while i agree with the bulk of your post, i wouldnt be quick to say that yahoo/msn cam2cam chats are a good litmus test of real friendship. in fact, off-site communication is a little overrated IMO. i used to be ecstatic to even score a hosts yahoo id, now i dont even ask for them anymore(partially because of what u describe in your OP). if i want to say hi to a friend here, i will simply pop in to text chat and chat for a bit or CCmail them(or regular email). i really dont need to see their cam every single time we chat.

i dont know that there is a really good way to ascertain whether or not a "cyber friend" is a true friend or not. but i know what i look for. someone earlier mentioned how much hosts remember of chats and i think thats a great point. i have a friend who remembers every single last detail of our chats, it never ceases to amaze me. she asks about things i never even remembered saying, or said weeks or months before....but we've never exchanged a single word on yahoo or msn, and only email each other occasionaly.

another give away that a host likes you is the "light up". stop by to your hosts video unannounced and watch her reaction. if her face lights up with uncontainable glee, that certainly means shes happy to see you....and that cant be bad. heck, i have friends i dread seeing in real life.

now get me wrong, i dont come here looking to make friends and i certainly dont come to judge or grade hosts. i come here to relax. ive learned to keep my expectations in check; even after i have a really good session with an amazing woman. too often in the past, the subsequent visit after the amazing one wasnt so amazing and ive had my widdle feewings hurt :(....not anymore.

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Great to have you back. And for those who like guess who she is pretty good at getting the hosts.

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2 members living in texas, louisiana, mississippi, and florida

i really hope all you ppl get out just in case the hurricane hits your state, we really dont want to see another hurricane katrina desaster. good luck to all you ppl tho and wish you all the best. our prayers will be with you.
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And as Cuba is even more at risk, let's pray for its people too and wish them safe.

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RUN!

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chatting to one host ?

Ive been close to one for some time even met . Dont make the same mistake they here for one thing sex for money just treat them like that everybody is hapy
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Amen brother. Find that out too many times. My "friendships" ultimately came down to one thing....come to my video.

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my guess is that's possibly because you have all the charm & personality of a wet sock(joking dear) :--)

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Ive also met a couple hosts and we been friends for years.

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Do you have to spend money with the hosts to maintain the friendships?

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no on occasion

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No I dont send money to anyone - just my wise advice :-)

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I maintain my "friendships" by sending money directly. Isn't that what "friends" are for?

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my point exactly dont be nice just treat her like a paid .......... gert what you need and Go

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Lol) so amusing))

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An interesting point Alena.

But how does this relate to an decent (maybe a lil naive) guy getting his card maxed out by a devious host who fakes a friendship.

How does it relate to an honest host who has a nasty guy humiliate & deceive her ?

"What you give is what you get"???? If only life were that simple.

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Hosts are here to make money. A host may like you but at the end of the day she wants your money. In the eyes of the average host An as****e with a platinum credit rating is far more desirable than a nice guy with a 'maxed out' card. You will find a similar attitudes in most business situations. Time is money!!

The girls come here to make money. If a guy is pleasant & treats a girl with respect so much the better but the bottom line is the $ the e or the £.

If you think a host likes you & is your friend cut off the cash supply & see if she still likes u after a couple of weeks with no paying vid chat.

I think many of us are or have been guilty of thinking that a host may have some feeling for us. Then the reality check (accompanied by c card statement ) hits us between the eyes.

Do we deserve this? Probably!

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well my relatiionship with mine is good then i havnt gone to her video for almost 3 months and we chat on yahoo the time so might be good sign for me we will see

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I am nice i never get a show from anyone because im i a nice guy . Must i stay nice ?

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Problem is im not reallly nice im rotten inside im a pervert a lier and a cheat :)

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Good luck. I hope you are 1 of the exceptions which proove the rule

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thank u very much i hope so too

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i have had one bad experience so i know what its like but this different, but lets face it i dont blame anybody theres so many lies both ways human nature

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i asked to be banned from here coz i was wayyyyyyyyyy out of control with credit card debts spiralling.. Even begged CC at times to return.. But looking back its the best decision i have made. Now i have surplus cash each month to go on cool holidays..

My cam host friends here... well i still chat to the genuine ones most days.. Sure there are some bad apples here.. i been used here of course by devious hosts too.. But taking the positives... thats not particularly down to this website.. People are like that in any sector. The genuine camhosts are also here for money...its a good income after all. but my friends here i talk too offline are nice people who never cheated me out of money etc etc...

To be honest, with the money i now have in my pocket i can visit them in there countries more freqently than i did before... less stress and more fun :) Everyones a winner :D

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I have met one host here, been chatting with her in community and in her text chat for couple months. Sometimes chat for 8 hours at a time and she never asked me into video, even told me not to do video because she knows I don't have that much money at the moment.

Not many hosts here like that, but there are a few real special ones out there, who just come here for a little extra cash on the side or to keep from being bored and lonely. We email everyday and chat here on weekends. I know a few others who are the same and I appreciate them very much. You just have to search hard to find them.

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Zenit))))))))

Zenit-our guys are the best:):):D

Congrats, girls))))))))
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who is zenit?

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Zenit St Petersburg, beat Man Utd in the european super cup.

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Grrrrrrrrrr :P

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now for the ecquadorians moni :--)

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RE: Zenit))))))))

it was only the super cup ;o)

but well done to any team that beats man ure :o)

all the best in champs league group stages and here's to a zenit v cska chelsea final

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