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You can vastly reduce having to yield to the choice of the softcore hosts by simply asking in free chat if she strips. Every host that has agreed to strip did so. It's only once they have agreed to strip that I then go to video and actually ask them to put clothes on :P

I agree...a couple of simple questions before the video would eliminate all the problems members seem to have with hosts and their videos. CC will back you if a host does not deliver what she promises. But be specific and define precisely what you want. If the host is vague about agreeing or gives some other evasive answer...save yourself the grief...move on to another host...she has no intention of stripping. Easy.

i wish i had the choice not to read this thread now. :(

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I have no choice - mistress told me i must read this forum, and report to her the contents.

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...in a hopeless place... I love you too (G)

As long as he moves like Jagger....

but is he a disciple?

bcs some members really deserve

excellent answer ! + 1!

If it's not required, a host not in a category that does not require it can use the distant promise of nudity as a lure to extend video sessions and thus earn more, right? or she can use the nudity as a reward to certain members who not only earn it by spending a lot on her, but who behave especially well and especially to her liking.....that makes sense too, right? if you were a host and you could amass a clientele of money slaves and virtual sugar daddies in certain categories, wouldn't you?

Because some girls want to and others probably figure that they will make more money....lol

Because I deserve it.

1. categories have different minimum prices so some might want to charge a lower price than other categories allow

2. some don't mind stripping but like the idea that they can say no if they don't like the guy

3. some probably are willing to strip all the time but don't like toys and hard core and they look at soft core as this type of category

4. money... they make more money stripping than not stripping in some cases

5. INYF deserves it

6. I deserve it too.

Concise.

Well done. :)))

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... I'm worth it

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Some of them actually enjoy it, when its with someone they like. They don't want to strip for just any stranger who barks at them to, so they don't work in categories that require it.

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And someday, I hope you will be able to move beyond this issue and discover that there is so much more in life besides this one thing that consumes your thinking and enjoying of this site.

I bet someone has a big credit card bil, lol. But true. Some hosts are worth getting to know better.

I get horny too...but in the hardcore category...it is not only expected but often demanded....I do not use toy and I am do not always masterbate.....but I do remove clothing as well as other requests (and there are many different types of requests that do not involve shoving a dildo or fist inside)....and there are times that a simple conversation can lead into more...or even someone will come along and the way they are can be enticing......so in little shy category....I am able to express my wilder side naturally...when I was in not so shy....it was a constant demand of get naked now...finger yourself now...cum now...and that was what they thought was foreplay....lol....I am not one that can pretend nor automatically be aroused just because someone says hi, I am hard and horny so get to it...after a while of hearing that constantly, it became a big turn off and rather than disappoint I chose to change categories to little shy....

for many hosts (mostly those in not so shy, instant action or those that have rooms in hard and soft core) they seem to have no trouble with doing such things and many of them are good at faking it too....and as I have read many posts saying "we don't if she fakes it as long as she is good at it" or "I am paying so the host will do what I say and when" or "I am paying so why should I bother to arouse a host, she should be arousing me" or "if a host is not going to do these things then they do not belong in the hard core categories"...

When I do show the wilder side of myself in such a way then I like to enjoy it....I do not stall in my videos and I do not say I will do something then say no once in video....but the wilder side is often a surprise and can be much more enjoyable when it is not expected.

The same here....I dont mind to get naked and play, I even like it myself if I am in mood. But what I really hate to do it in rush. I need to take my time for hot show. I was in other sites out of categories and find myself its' not for me when a viewer enters my room and starts with commands: get naked, spread legs, get doggy, cum..so 5-10 mins and he got his cum and off from the chat with no even bye and thanks. I cant stand the rule I must get naked for everybody who are in in my chat (even if I am not in playful mood) thats why I awoid hardcore category and choose softcore. Toys and anal are not my thing too. I like to be naturally aroused and really horny for hot show, hate to pretend for it. My opinion for the show I need minimum 30 mins, but better 1 hr, with my price its from 50 $ to 100 $ for viewer thats not so much and if a guy cant afford it he shouldnt expect a show from me.

Ladies, thank you... this is precisely the reason I might spend some time "chatting" up a host, and I'm some kind of sissy boy I guess? It's like members here don't understand female anatomy, or how women get aroused...

Which explains a lot, actually.

"I'm some kind of sissy boy"

Your words, not mine.

Did I call you a sissy boy? Sorry if that offended you.

sorry, but you have no idea what is it "sissy boys" or "money slave" and what they need in video. SeemsReal is a gentleman who cares about woman more than about himself...hmm maybe I would think to meet in real with such kind of men. :)

Ah, well... princess. Thank you. :)))))

"but you have no idea what is it "sissy boys" or "money slave"

I most certainly do. And no I'm not one.

While I would happily spend an hour in video with a host at the prices you quote I have to admit that the host being turned on is not something I really care about (probably because I imagine that no host is really turned on when she is videoing with me). As I'm paying the only one I care about getting turned on is me.

My sentiments exactly my friend

Well, thats you, your rights are all here. I only hope that aroused host not turn off for you at least? If yes, that maybe something not right with you, because normally for most men (as I know) pretending, cold woman is turn off, except sissy boys and money slaves (they adore arrogant goddess who merely ignoring them in video chat). By the way you never been in my video (if you use the same name for videochatting).

I would prefer a host to be turned on but if she isn't and is good at pretending she is enjoying herself with me (or pretending to be turned on) then I am happy.

It's the same with the friendship. I would love it to be real but I am wise enough to know that hosts are only pretending because I am paying. And I see nothing wrong with that. For a few minutes I can pretend that these beautiful, young sexy girls really do find me funny, sweet and generous.

I do video with this name and others. So if a member has ever asked you to wear jeans in your video then it could very well have been me.

But I think you are right and that we have probably never had a video.

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I never ask hosts to put on clothes. If you were wearing jeans or anything else, I would ask you to take it off. But often when I do that in softcore, I am told to go to IA or sometimes just to go to hell.

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I ask politely sometimes in free chat, but most times in open vid after 5 or 10 minutes and ask if they ever undress or make a comment I would like to see what is under whatever they are wearing. I can't help it if I am a perverted wanker.

I do not call anyone sissy nor money slave, to me we are all people with different desires and requests...

I do not expect anyone to turn me on, but there are men on here that do like to try to do that and there are times when it just simply happens...

A person does not have to spend an hour in video turning me on, most often the talking it is in free chat, and they will then ask if I will be willing to remove my clothes, so I do not make people stay in my video for long periods of time, it is their choice how long they are in video for.

Most members will come to my free chat and ask me about their request and I prefer that so that no one wastes their money, I am upfront of what I will and will not do as soon as I know the request. Many member have many different requests, including asking a host to put on certain clothes, ie secretary clothes, lingery, leather, and many other types of clothing, sometimes the clothing stays on sometimes they come off, it all depends on the person who has the request.

As I said in my response not all members care if a host is pretending or not as long as she is good at it and that is fine, I am just not one that will pretend to enjoy when it comes to being in an intimate way. That is my preference, and honesty with a member from the begining gives the member the option to take the chance or to find a host that will say definately yes to all that is asked of them...so for myself shy category is the best place for me.

I think it is sad and unreasonable for a host to get mad or be rude to a member simply because he asks her if she will remove her clothes, we are on a sex site for heavens sake, and that is one of the things that is to be expected as a request no matter what category a host is in. The only time a softcore host should suggest a member go to IA is when he says he is wanting instant use of a toy or masterbation, and this should be said in a polite suggestive way. Otherwise a host can simply say in a polite way that she does not get nude. There is no need for a host to be rude just because a member asks for something.

A person can not always say when or what or who will turn them on. I can be doing a simple dance with strip and it can turn into more and can be a nice surprise for both. But this can happen as long as the host is honest and does not make false promises and agreements.

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I remember her well but what she got up to once she left here I have no idea.

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great tits on her ;) . never belived the banned from adult categories story.

Yes I do... visited her a couple of times

She left for a long time and eventually returned as I recall...not sure it was this length of time however. She was getting a little older and bigger and maybe decided it was time to move on though she was not competing with the younger girls solely on her looks. You never know...once in a while an oldie but goodie pops up again but for the most part...like the McRib sandwich...when they are gone..they are gone.

but you can always count on the McRib coming back this year, next year, or at some time in the future.

Once i took her prv and told her to cut the crap and get nude. She got really mad and didnt show anything muahahahhaa

Or it could be because they were all pretending to "be nice" during the competition :P

Members go to their favorites during contests. A bunch of fans visited hosts, rated them 5 stars and ratings went up. I don't think it means anything one way or another, but it would be nice if you were correct.

Well, yes, CC contest time is a happy one. Reality doesn't set in until the credit card statements are due... let's see, that should be just before Xmas?

certainly a success for one particular host

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DHL tried to expand into USA but fell short. They've been known to be your best bet in Europe, but any of them should do just fine there. Expensive, though...

so since when have parcelforce dealt with letters? surely PARCELforce deal with PARCELS?

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as someone who deals with important documents all the time i can tell you never, never, ever use a government run postal service anywhere in the world. pay the money for fed ex or even ups

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Yes, very frustrating for you. I'm in London and I too was not confident about Parcel Force so I always use Mail Boxes Etc. They pack for me then phone around for the best deal on my behalf. All parcels I've sent aboard have been fully trackable online. They have never let me down yet.
Good luck.

The bigger joke is posting anything from the UK to Russia... it seems to get delivered whenever they feel like it, if at all.

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Ive got once a parcel from UK, it came in 2 weeks

watch DHL for double billing and over estimating taxes .
good company as said before but expensive.

uk to russia?..so that would have nothing to do with the russian postal service then?..blame parcelforce its much easier

Yes, I should clarify that this has nothing to do with Parcel Force. I've actually always found Parcel Froce to be pretty good. Have used them lots over the years and never any issues.

i have always found Parcelforce entirely satisfactory. They are my first choice when I need the services of a parcel delivery service.

Try Argentina...I send packages last season to a few of my friends...out of 5 packages..2 made it...2 disappeared and one wound up open with contents missing.

Never used them, but can say the USPS isn't much better. My brother overnighted a resume' and job application through the US PO to ensure it was received on time. He never heard anything on the job but 3 months later his overnight envelope was returned to him, mangled by one of their sorting machines.

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"and take a quick look at the photos. really all the women here are quite stunning. "

Maybe you're just being politically correct, but I've quite a few girls on here I do not want to see in pvt even if they were free. Yes there are many stunning women on cc and other cam sites as well. But to say they all are is just not accurate unless you are blind.

<have become used to being the center of attention in their lives.>
I agree with your general comments about the attitude which possibly makes some hosts more successful here than others, but disagree with your premise that the hosts are in any sense exceptional in their own environments. Of course they are very attractive, but in the cities from which they originate they represent only a small proportion of their peer group, and it would be naive in the extreme to assume they are the only attractive members of their generation, or that all the attractive members of their generation gravitate towards sites like cc. On the contrary, the assumption must surely be that there are far more attractive girls in Kostroma, Bucharest, Perm, Brasov etc not hosting, than are hosting. So is really not a case that they are the centre of attention in their own lives: they have the same competition there as they do here.

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Looks like you've been visiting some of these cities hehe... if u go to a disco or club in Bucharest u'll think ur at a fashion show ;)

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so if i understand you correctly, you are saying that hosts feel more free to tell a guy to go to hell here than in real life, because there are really no bad consequences. that is a good thing i would say. but also as you say a 'bad' attitude can put a viewer off quickly maybe? and what country are you from where all women look like models? i want to move there, or at least vacation there.

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I concurrr!

"especially that in my country all young women look like models"
You are russian
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:)Yes i agree with you. Sometimes is the other way : webcaming boosts your self esteem regarding the way you look.
In the end...all this horny men telling me I look like a goddess ( they would say anything to get into my pants,ofc ) makes me think sometimes ,i may actually look a little like a goddess. :D

u mean that hosts who failed the contests all have bad attitude, thats why they didnt win? I dont think so really, can be other reasons.

did not mean hosts who lost contest have a bad attitude. getting into the top 50 they would have to have some kind of regular customers probably, and from there it was all pure luck.

Beauty is fleeting...just go to your high school reunions after a few years. Age, motherhood, work, responsbilities, stress, gravity, genetics...all take their toll in short order. I think many of the girls are smart enough to realize that they are idolized here more than in the real world...and many of them realize that physical beauty is fleeting but while it lasts they are going to make some money with it. I think the pursuit of youth is the main reason members come here. The freshness and desireability of young attractive women is like a drug. If you wonder if the girls realize that beauty is fragile just stay for a while and see the huge turnover in hosts over a period of years. Those beautiful girls of the past...and there were so many...have moved on..hopefully to better things but to things that do not rely solely on their physical appearance.

I hate to burst your bubble with your theory but there is a high level of interest in mature women who are very attractive and have taken good care of themselves despite the elements of child bearing, etc. that you speak of. This interest is not only on cam sites from younger males but also men similar age and in real life as well.
I assume you are an older man and lust for the look of the younger girl opposed to a woman but do not assume to speak for all because I am here to tell you that it certainly is not the case :) It could be a trend but it is certainly much more common than you are aware of.

thank you :)

Your welcome! Also, I was going to mention that I have no facial or body enhancements or surgeries but many of the young top hosts under 30 do so is it natural beauty or is cosmetic beauty that the older gentlemen like So is referring to that appeals to them so much?

I agree with the general idea that a good personality and attitude helps a chathost have success, but I disagree with how they get to that point. The way I read your post, you seem to be saying that a chathost sits back, calculates what type of attitude she needs to have and then proceeds to display that attitude here. That is basically saying a chathost can be fake and succeed and seems contrary to what your real point is, namely a good personality and attitude helps a chathost succeed.

In my view, a good attitude and personality, be it real or fake, works on CC. The key is giving the viewer what he wants, and if fake, then simply being good at hiding who you really are.

There are plenty of popular hosts here who are fake. Some of them are my friends since they are their real selves with me and don't take things too far in terms of hurting guys as far as I know and some of them I despise because I learn one way or another that they are royal bullshit artists, that in some cases, have really hurt members. Many of these hosts have had a lot of success during contests by the way so being fake works, just as long as the member doesn't know it.

Fortunately, however, being your real self can work too for a host as long as that real self is a woman with a good heart. There are plenty of them on this site too, and some have a lot of success here.

Unfortunately, if I was going to do some type of unscientific analysis, I would conclude that the fake ones outperform the real ones in my personal opinion, but once again, they both have once thing in common: having a personality that appeals to members in one way or another. Looks can attract a guy, but unless he wants to just play, he is only going to stick around so long especially when he is online and can just jump to another room. But while I agree with the general idea that hosts with good personalities do well here, that doesn't mean that all of these hosts are being genuine. Some of them are just acting and give a member what they want, and some of them can be quite cruel and manipulative by being sweet as opposed to being some type of dungeon host.

Also, I think you need to give members credit too. Some members can bring out the best in a host and get her to open up to him. From there, the relationship can grow which can mean he visits her more often and she has more success here. The member can see something inside of the host that draws him to her. Of course, sometimes this is a bit superficial such as an older guy having a sort of paternal instinct to take care of a younger host and she warms to him, but other times it can be two equals and it is simply a case where the member knows how to get a person to open up to him when he sees something that he likes. That doesn't mean he likes shy hosts, necessarily. Instead, it could be that a host just has a lot of interesting things to talk about, and the member knows how to ask the right questions, show that he's really interested, et cetera. I am not sure that I am explaining that correctly, but what I am trying to say is that a woman's attraction to a man's personality can in turn lead her to be a better host, not just the other way around, and sometimes what gets things rolling is the man reaching out to the woman with a comment such as "Wow. You're studying x. I've always been interested in x. Tell me more."

The bottom line is that there are many ways for a host to succeed here. But always remember that guys will usually at least as a first step be drawn to looks. That doesn't mean the host needs to be a goddess... She can just have a sweet smile, for example. But it is almost about how the host looks at first that gets the guy's attention. Keeping the member coming, as opposed to cumming, lol, can be more about the personality as you say. Once again, however, that doesn't mean that the host is being her true, genuine self. It still can just all be an act, albeit a very good one. And also, the member's approach is a big factor too.

Hope that all made sense. Usually my posts are long, but I do a better job of explaining myself. This issue is a bit more tricky with so many factors so it was harder.

I did not read your comments
Just want to say: I don`t have the time, it`s always too looooooong

You got that right, hoss!

Yeah,,,, They are long. And this one barely made sense, lol. Sorry. I had some good thoughts in there but I couldn't bring them together and just flamed out.

Ah, but you keep your sense of humor. That's good.

Sleep on it next time; you might find all kinds of thing to cut out. LOL.

"The key is giving the viewer what he wants"

Long post but those 9 words said it all. Case closed.

I actually have to struggle a little to find someone so gorgeous that i want to pvt based on that alone. Most all are attractive, even very attractive sure, but not very many are truly gorgeous to me. But there are other reasons i'd pvt or like someone here beyond just looks.
Different strokes make the world go 'round though

Just take a look at the last contest winners They are all shapes,ages,weights and personalities . Form dominatrixs, to average girls that charge 5$ without stripping, shy girls and some sweethearts .
The truth is being a successful host is a relative thing which involves a mixture of personality ( first of all!) ,english skills,some psychological intuition( what the public wants and what makes it stick with you),beauty,the will to strip and sometimes break the boarders of your ''safety'' zone ,many many many....hours spent online,experience,aesthetic taste( how to pose for the cam,lights quality etc) and lots of luck.
''Beautiful and pussy'' just, as the post below says, is rarely enough.

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The Dominatrix have a huge advantage with tons of money slaves

I doubt;because slaves are rarely the competitive type ;) But any domina is welcomed to contradict me. I am not experienced in this matter.

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....Or does money buy the beauty which is so true for many of the top hosts here. It is sad that they feel that they aren't adequate as they are and have facial enhancements, breast implants, butt implants, botox etc. and they are young girls not even 30 yet! Is that stunning beauty or is that buying beauty to be on a porn site?? It is much more common than most know.....

lol. I've often had that thought. Not saying all the girls here get rich or anything. Happy to pay for your time.:)

depends what you mean by privacy...maybe it means their private life...or maybe it means things they do in one to one video...

for myself privacy is what I do in one to one when I am being sexual....and privacy also means my private life....

She can block certain areas, viewers and some won't reveal unless they can see the other on cam. Many times hosts don't show her face on profile pic. So there are several ways to keep her privacy from family, friends or viewers that she doesn't want to see her.
Think I have a suspicion who is asking...

its so she can block stalkers family members seeing her kitty .

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"If anyone can see me, there's no privacy." I completely agree. Although viewers do have the option of being totally anonymous should they choose. However I've heard many choose to share their cam, share photos of self, family, home, work and all kinds of things. Their choice not mine. But then the member is the one paying.

Thanks to all who replied.

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HEY i seen that vagina before!

Remember hosts are not vieweable in their home countries and other places where they might have relatives and friends. Most girls work here because their work here is unknown to their family and friends in many cases. They remain annoymous to members. They can give you a name, a history, a city but it may or may not be accurate and even if it is...they will never see you again after they leave CC. That gives them a comfort level that to appear here keeps their identity private from those they care about. Some hosts will not show their faces in profile pics and some even will not appear naked while their face is showing...

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sooo if a host was not in the top 10 for the last 4 days then she wont have a chance...because if they do those who have been in the top 10 for the 4 days ...that means that it will be more of a chance for those who already won

so that means that if a host was not in the top 10 for most of the 4 days then she is toast...so it works out to about the same...loool

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I remember last year it was all people from top 50 from all the days were in the grand prize draw, I'm sure that's how they will do it this year too.

why u send to cc such emails.? i think they know better than u sweety:) how to do. hugzz

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There are many hosts who do not have photoshop pictures all the time that are not winners....

You can't go by the winners. You need to look at the top 50, see what place they were in on the list, and do some type of analysis to determine if photoshop has anything to do with whom members play with. All the winners tell you is which of the top 50 were chosen, but they could have been the bottom 20 for all you know.

The only thing I noticed when going over the top 50 on day 3, and I imagine it was the same the other days, is at least 80% were soft core or dungeon. This is understandable because guys are more likely to just chat with these hosts so these hosts end up with more regulars. Nevertheless, it felt like a disturbing trend in that it encourages hosts to focus more on talk and less on action, I knew glamour and dungeon had taken over CC, but I never knew it was that bad lol.

that is a bit unfair to say and assume... there are those of us that do more than just chat....

just because I am in little shy category, does not mean that I do not have a wild side. :)

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what is bad about , if someone won several days in a row? if 1 girl won 250 for a 4 days and other 1000 in a one day. maybe if it is were u ,then u would not tell this things :) i realy beleive that thouse who trying hard and have a lot of videos- deserve to win :)

"just because I am in little shy category, does not mean that I do not have a wild side. :)"

Yes it does.

No it does not...

I have a very healthy wild side...what gives you the right to tell me that I don't when you obviously have not spent any time to find out...loool ..

You are right. I am sure that that is also the case with most of the soft core hosts that made it into the top 50.

"Nevertheless, it felt like a disturbing trend in that it encourages hosts to focus more on talk and less on action, I knew glamour and dungeon had taken over CC, but I never knew it was that bad lol."


Amen my brother

As members always say....it's supply and demand. If the viewers enjoy softcore hosts more then that is the way it is....who are you to judge.

I agree, this is "Money Slave and Sissy Boy Central"

So gentlemen that like to get to know a host and slowly seduce her and enjoy her beauty are all sissy boys....lol. If anything it seems like the shy categories are attracting gentlemen which is what softcore is all about not hardcore with a click. :) Good Luck
I guess only the shy hosts would know the viewers they attract....

I love to chat with softcore hosts. They are very lovely and smart. And they all tell me most of their customers are sissy boys and money slaves. Maybe they lie, but that's what they tell me.

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I don't think category matters. Women are masters at making men their slaves in one way or another. It has happened to all of us. :(

and men are not masters in getting what they want from women or turn them into slaves??????:o....or am i the last dreamer??:)))))).i'm a woman btw and still looking for the TAMER of my life:p and Moonlit Knight i should hire u for writting my personal bio-man' u write novels here:))))).we can become very rich together:p

well at this moment a sub from dungeon is top, although it won't last but kinda blows your slave theory out the water.

The only subs in Dungeon are the viewers. As Moonlit Night pointed out in another thread, dominas/dominarix own this site.

This is "Sissy Boy Central"

if you think 22sunny is a dom (which was the host leading at that time) then you know very little about that category

Yes. I have heard this from a host friend. Also, I believe that only the first member into video can play so that could be part of the problem too.

Maybe going to the home page of the affiliate will tell you if the contest is available there.

Hi, yeah you can only play the game on CC!

thank you...so it is like last year...if member did not register directly through cc then they can not play the game...that does not really sound fair seeing as they spend just as much money as members who have registered directly through the cc link...

thank you for responding...have a great time and good look with the contest...

Actually it makes sense because the affiliate site viewers get a discount as you will see in your revenue page so why should they benefit from the contests? Ask them to join CC directly and use your name as referred by. They probably to pay the same amount in the end but the other site takes their cut too.

they are on cc...but they used an affliliate to join....and it was one member in one to one...and the option to play did not come up which has happened with other members who register through an affiliate and not directly using only the cc link thanks again...

I am not sure if this is what you mean but you can register an account on an affiliate and then log into CC itself. That might be causing a problem. The system might not recognize the account as eligible for participating in the contest even though it is being used on CC since it was not created on CC and was instead created on the affiliate.

If the issue is an account was created on CC and the member enters when nobody else is already there, then contact CC. That member should be able to participate in the contest. Just make sure the member didn't enter the moment another member left so that the system thought he was the second member into chat and therefore not eligible to play at that moment. But if nobody else is around and he keep going in and out of a host's video session without success and the account was created on CC, then something is wrong and once again, contact CC.

I think you don't have all the details of how it works with affiliate sites which I describe above.

I will be the first to tell you that I don't have all the details on this issue. I am just going by what hosts tell me and making an educated guess. That is why I say things like "might".

Which is your post? If it is "oops and", I wasn't clear about what you were saying. That is why I responded in hopes of clarifying. But if I misunderstood, please let me know.

Thank you Host that explains it....when this happen last year ....cc did not explain it that way...so now it makes much more sense and I understand thank you .... :)

and thank you to Moonlit Knight...but as I said it was only one person...so others being in or out had nothing to do with it...and the problem is that they registered with cc using an affliliate site that is why we make less when it is an affliate site to begin with... :)

have a great weekend everyone :)

All the viewers on CamContacts can play the game regardless of if they have an affiliate referrer or not!

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Unquestionably there is a special appeal to many of the glamour hosts...keeping in mind several have identies in more adult categories as well. I am not going to get into a which category has the best girls but for me...glamour always yields the girl next door look I am looking form.

So who are they these 13 stars?

Sorry I meant 13 5 star girls, lol

And most don't use toys or other forms of entertainment that many guys think is necessary to be a good host or at least the ones that post here. There is a certain mystique about a host that takes care of herself and presents a glamourous appeal. It's not all about nudity and toys.

Forget the profile...they can be totally 180 degrees opposite of what the host does in video...you should ask...specifically...what she does and what you expect ...and get a yes...not a vague answer before you go in. Do that and you should not be disappointed unless you have erectile dysfunction...

You need to do a better job at legal research or you will be sued for malpractice. See my post below:


RE: Honest Question for all categories...but mostly for members and hosts in not so shy category . 09/Nov/2011 07:40 (GMT).

It is the 17th line of that thread and a response to "??". You can't just go by category descriptions. I show you the fine print in my post.

Well I never claimed to be a lawyer. And yes I know that is the unwritten rules you refer to. But going by cc guidelines, its easy to understand why there is often much confusion.

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"Unfortunately it has only become an issue with hosts twisting the rules for those categories over the last couple of months"

Actually its going on for years. And yes I think in many cases its the studio bosses that are at fault.

I have actually been here for over 2 years and I have never seen these issues written in forum before so I don't where you get your information but I suggest you look back!

I've been a member since 2000 and there have been many post in viewer forum over time and I have experienced these issues in many pvts I've gone into in NSS and IA.

Interesting. Thanks for the info.

I once told CC to make it more clear to hosts what the rules were instead of having them appear one time. Then they told me that they appear each time a host starts her session. I took that to mean each time a member enters video and basically responded if they are that obvious, then give a host one warning and ban her after that since she clearly is ignoring the rules on purpose. Then they made me think it wasn't quite as obvious so I guess they are a bit more hidden like you said.

What I proposed was that they make the rules pop up just like when it says "Restricted Session: Topless Only", for example, to stop all this nonsense. I also said to put them in all the major languages used here where the other rules are. Other than hosts having connection issues, telling me to go 121 in little shy for nudity is my number one complaint yet this issue has yet to be adequately addressed in my view.

It is interesting to learn that the rules are in fact available like you said. Still, I would make them even more obvious to stop the rule breakers. The rules should be right in their face so they have no more excuses.

i meant that i hate being told to go 121 in not so shy... not that i like it in little shy either... freudian typo lol

LOL ok then you'll understand my reply before reading this.

Your comment: telling me to go 121 in little shy for nudity is my number one complaint yet this issue has yet to be adequately addressed in my view.

Why would a shy host want to be nude in open for all viewers? I personally will not! It is my choice to get nude and I am a softcore host and the rules support that. If I chose nudity in open then that would be in NSS which I am not. If a man wants me to get nude and I agree to it ....it would only be with the two of us and not many viewers. So why does that bother you and where do you see that I am required to do nudity outside of a private with one member?

You stole my name! You are a thief!!!

Sure you're not a lawyer? :P

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Cos she's nice and I like her

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im nice too,and many love me,and what? =))

Thank you my dear and thanks for taking a pick with me.I think we both lucky in so many different ways,no ;)?

I always thought that would be a good idea as well

maybe they should add everything possible and make everything optional so every chathost can design the room just as they would like it *sarcasm*

I actually agree with that

this is good only for members who want to see action without pay too much

I agree with that!

profit without having to chat or fulfill specific requests from those only viewing.....profit from members who can't complain to cc about broken promises and go begging for refunds. sounds like it would have its pluses for hosts too.

Yes there are many benefits for hosts. Thanks for pointing some out

that would be majority of the members here....looool...

I know a host who works elsewhere ..she says she makes an extra 200 dollars a month just off 10 second peeps.. it adds up.. I mean what can a guy really see in 10 seconds, other than you might just be chatting..a good reason not to join, or doing a show..a good reason to join and have fun too.. I can understand your not wishing it..I mean why fix whats not broken..but something that might make you and the site more revenue? can it really be all that bad?

$200/month off 10 second spying? Hmmm. Guess hosts should be for it if they can turn it off.

I guess guys just like peeping and that explains why they jump in and out for 10 seconds all the time when I am in open. I just wish that stupid sound wouldn't happen. Then it wouldn't bother me.

I think that if this was ever done, not that I, as a member, would ever suggest changing anything here, lol, that besides allowing the host to disable the voyeur feature, it should only be for 121 sessions, and that the price should be the same as the host's open session price.

I think that setting things up this way would preserve the economic structure of CC, otherwise, there could be unintended consequences that hosts and/or members might not like. For example, it is possible that hosts would make less money as a lot of guys willing to pay for open started to spy, presumably at a price less than the open price or why spy?. Guys right now have the option of open and 121, but those picking open might just spy instead. Then, in turn, hosts might start raising prices to compensate for this which would increase her open price and 121 price. Or maybe everyone would just disable the feature and so it would become pointless.

I don't know if that is exactly what would happen, but I think it would throw everything out of whack if things were done differently. If members could spy on open, just as "host" said, it is ultimately going to be a feature used by members just to save money and other members would end up paying the price for this. Keep spying for 121 only and do it at the open price, and everything should remain about about the same assuming that hosts that only strip in 121 typically turned off the feature. In fact, maybe it should be just a hard core feature just like hi lo isn't available for IA since if you are really shy or only want certain guys to see you naked, why in the world would you turn on the voyeur feature anyway?

Anyway, I really am not sure about all the potential consequences here. The one site I liked seeing this feature on is a site that has the equivalent of open and 121, but hosts can reject open or 121, and most top hosts reject open most of the time. That leave viewers with the choice of 121, which is very expensive on that site, or spying at a more reasonable price that is higher than the open price so I think spying works there. Plus, it is a site where 90% of open and 121 shows are about sex so the spy knows what to expect unlike on CC where a lot of chatting occurs.

On another site that has this feature, things are bit differently and the spy price is for bunches of hosts at varying prices, some of whom might actually charge a price right around the spy price. It really makes no sense to me and I don't like it.

I would be interested in your experiences where you have seen this work in a positive way for hosts and members. It seems pretty good on the site where the host can reject open and accept only 121, and spying is only available for 121. Given that hosts can't reject open on CC, I think that the spy feature should also be limited to 121 to preserve the pricing structure as I said, but I would be interested in your experiences.

Voyeur view or spying could work here or anywhere. Just set one low price and limit spying to 1 minute at let's day $2 per. Its extra money for cc and the hosts and as pointed out no viewer could ever complain a host did not do what he asked since he has no way to communicate with her. Its a good preview for members and extra money for the hosts.

And any host can disable the feature at any time. And no one i forcing the member to use it. Sound and c2c are available to all but no one is forced to use either. And these services do not generate any revenue for cc or the host. Voyeur View/Spy does generate income.

I am not sure what can really be gained by a one minute spy feature. It seems kind of pointless. The member might as well just pop into open and jump out like they seem to do now all the time, lol.

As for the idea of $2, at that price, I think it would rarely be used. Most hosts have prices for open that are no more than that, and it seems pointless to pay anything over the open price to spy for one minute. Yes, if spying on 121, you might have a better chance at seeing the host naked, but so many guys just chat, is it really worth continually spying over and over again just to hope you get to see more?

I know that "wonder" bras that push everything up, lol, make it harder to judge how a host really looks when naked, and I know that archive pics are not always accurate, but I just don't see a $2, one minute spy feature working. I just assume enter open, say hi, and see her that way. If it was something like 50% to 75% of the session that you were spying on, that might make a bit more sense.

Anyway, after thinking about it more, as I indicated in another post, I am starting to think that spying wouldn't work well because of how things work on CC. I guess it would save me from the situation that "So" described where the host looked so bad that you just want to run, but that is what the ringer on my phone is for ("sorry, phone call. gotta go", lol) But even then, unless you are the first guy into open, you don't really need to say anything and can just run without being rude.

It would be nice to cut down on the incoming contacts/goodbye thing that I hate in open, but I just don't see spying having much other use the way you are setting it up. Hmmmm. I sure hope that I don't have bad taste and that is why everyone keeps leaving open 2 seconds after they get there when I have a session. :p

I just threw out the $2 figure, it could $1 or whatever. Again I know you have posted that you enjoy c2c, but not everyone does. Trust me voyeur view/spy generates income. If not why do most cam sites have it? Its all about more choices. The girls in softcore can choose to get naked or not. All hosts can choose to use Voyeur view/spy or not.

So on this topic we disagree, but we have done so without any personal attacks. I think that's the way it should always be in this forum.

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Actually, on the site that I have seen spying work on there are two types of privates: one where spying is allowed and a more expensive one where is it not allowed. Things seem to work well, especially for popular hosts that can say if you want to see my best show, take me to the more expensive private where nobody can spy.

Here, of course, there is one kind of private. But the proposal is for the host to be able to turn off spying so your concerns have been addressed. She wouldn't have to worry about who else is watching.

As for the member not wanting anyone to watch since he is paying, while I can't speak for all members, I wouldn't worry about spying too much since the host would be only talking to me in 121. The only thing that might bother me is that another guy would be taking advantage of my paying a higher price and able to see the same show at a lower price. Perhaps the member could ask the host to turn spying off too in such a case and there would be a way to see that spying was disabled. Of course, it seems that the original poster just wanted a one minute long spy feature so the fact that I was paying more wouldn't bother me too much.

Thinking it through a bit more, I am starting to think that because of how CC is set up that maybe spying is a bad idea, however. I guess guys will just have to keep popping into open and leaving 2 seconds later to spy, lol. Such is life.

Well, you made some good points in your post and got me thinking. I appreciate that. It would be nice if you appreciate others' perspectives as well. Even in this post that you just made, you seem not to be able to do that. Still, you made a good point so I will look at the forest instead of the trees.

I have noticed that anytime a member comes up with a new plan that he has utilized at another site and thinks it is a great idea for members and hosts as well, that he never really understands the impact that it truly has on hosts. Obviously this has been brought up many times and it seems very apparent that some members who like the peeping ability would love the option. I am perfectly aware of what site he is referring to that already has this option and quite honestly that site shows little respect for the hosts and what they require of them. Even as far as what percentage they pay them. It is often brought up by hosts of why CC is clearly their choice and it always comes down to those reasons. CC treats their hosts and members with respect and they don't implement every idea that comes from other sites for good reasons. They understand the hosts position better than any member does and they also respect the fact that hosts quite often want to be anonymous. I appreciate that they offer many options to protect a hosts identity that the other sites do not. For the hosts that want maximum exposure it is also available.
I personally feel that is what makes CC a much better site.
It is easy to look at options other sites have and think it would be great to implement them here but CC does a good job of balancing what is best for all concerned. I also see hosts request options from other sites and yet is up to CC to see things as a whole and I think they see how members could be offended. So it works both ways and a lot of thought goes into the changes they make before they take the leap. Off the top of my head I can think of at least 10 reasons why CC is a much better site to work at and I also hear from members why they prefer CC over other sites.
As far as not considering the points and advantages the original poster has made, it simply is not the case. I understand how he sees from his perspective of how simple it is for all but there are many things that are not in his equation and members would not understand the importance.
I think your reaction to some of the things that I pointed out was a perfect example of how there are many considerations that members can't know when they come up with an idea. I appreciate your comments.

It takes quite a bit of effort to do anything anonymously on the internet. it has to be a consideration that what a host does here can possibly be found out by anyone. every host here should realize and make peace with that fact.

I think it is a great idea but I think it would cost some hosts and CC money so no go. Thinking back over the hundred and hundreds of videos I have done...a good number lasted less than a minute. Generally because the host was not what I expected...by a long shot. I would enter..look...gasp...tell the host she looked great but I had to go...thanked her and left. Many many times. Those ad up for hosts and when a host makes money...CC makes money.

"Thinking back over the hundred and hundreds of videos I have done...a good number lasted less than a minute. Generally because the host was not what I expected."

With voyeur view/spy all of this could have been avoided. Girls are constantly complaining about 1 minute men. This feature would go a long way in ending these kinds of complaints. And once again any host could disable this feature at any time.

I am aware of the site you are referring to and there are certainly the same complaints from hosts about the one minute viewers. The members do not read the forums that are for hosts only so for that reason you are not aware that it still exists.

is it only members who go to free chat, make arrangements for what they want in video and then leave video quickly that are a bother? or is it those who jump into video for a minute to see what's what and then leave that are a bother too? because that second kind seem to me like nothing but an easy bit of change for doing absolutely nothing - which is a good thing, i would think.

If viewers see me when I'm unaware they will never come to my videochat. I tend to make myself comfortable watching tv or reading something and don't stay with a big grin all the time, they might think i'm sad or bored, which is often the case until someone pops in video and the money starts rolling in. So these few pennies would probably ruin my chances for making the big bucks. Just my opinion. On another site this is called keyholes and yes I opted out from it after a few months :)

I agree with host....if we do not know we are being seen then members wont want to do our video cos we I too do other things till someone comes to video or into my chat room...and on other places that had the option I did not use it either...

not only that...but it would open the door for members to spy on a host and then get pissed off cos the host did something with someone that they not do with that person....as it is now there are some members on here that use another name to do the same thing....and yes it does happen...and has happened more than a couple of times....and the member gets jealous cos of what he saw...and then he uses that to give all kinds of problems or he posts about it out of jealousy...and yes that does happen and has happened too..

Perhaps the solution would be that it only worked if someone was already in video with you. But if it as introduced I would prefer the option that either the host or the member have the ability to switch it off at no extra cost.

Yes I agree completely. The feature would have to be voluntary for both host and viewer, just as c2c and sound are now. And yes on active when a host i live in pvt.

one to one video should be just that..one to one...members pay a lot of money for that one to one option..and so they should be able to enjoy that privacy with the host.....

and for myself personally, if I think someone else is watching...then there is no way that I would do some of the things that I do in one to one video.

I pick little shy category so that when I do feel frisky...and I am in a one to one with someone I feel vulnerable as it is...so if I have to be worrying about others watching what I am doing then there is no way I would feel comfortable enough to let myself go....

one to one is for privacy between one member and one host..I am not a person that feels comfortable doing certain things in open session with a bunch of people watching...so when I am feeling frisky to do more...that frisky will be gone if there is a chance that someone else or many someone elses are watching...and the members that pay to come and see me do not pay me because I pretend to be aroused but because I am aroused....

contrary to what many post on here....NOT all hosts fake their arousal....

always lots of resistance from hosts on this issue but surprised to hear resistance from members. bottom line is it is a money maker for hosts. most of my sessions with new hosts (host I did not see before) come from voyeur or free chat.

I agree 100%. And it is completely voluntary for both host and viewer. The same as we have for c2c and sound, but this feature is a money maker for the site and for hosts if they choose to use it.

Why would anyone want to ban something that is completely voluntary to both parties? How would all these hosts feel if I suggested we ban c2c and sound in pvt? I never use either. But why should I decide for everyone else? Its the same for voyeur viewer/spy, it is VOLUNTARY.

if u wanted to ban sound and c2c that is fine with me..lool...we are not deciding for everyone ...we are simply saying what we think just like you are pushing for it we are only saying how each of us feel....so it is not fair to accuse of us trying to speak for everyone....if cc decides to do it that is their choice...

Obviously there are many reasons why hosts resist it that are not being considered by a member. Most of the hosts are aware of the site that you are referring to and that is why they are on CC :))

All 12 sites I go to have it in one form or another except here.

So why in the world are you pushing it here? Don't you have enough options at other sites? Maybe there is a host that has you blocked that is here and you could peep or perhaps you think it would be cheaper here?
It's is not common sense to push it here. Member and hosts privacy are very important here which is a good thing!

"Member and hosts privacy are very important here which is a good thing!"

A member has total privacy is he so chooses, a host gives up her privacy to become a cam girl here or anywhere. And there are a great many of cc girls on other sites. I know, I see them there and so do other members.

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20 ? its say 10 only host and 10 members..

Yes it has now been changed to 20 :) More chances for us to win!

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But instead of $5 spent in pvt, it is now $10 to play.

guess who's paying for the prizes (lol)

That is tooooo funny.....LOL

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I'm guessing her definition of the term "hardcore" is simply a bit more extreme than the mere "full and explicit nudity" expected of her category. kudos to you for "checking the Chathost's profile to see what you can expect from her show" though. Way to be a Pepper, dude.

I like the profiles where the host likes anything that keeps the member in video longer..."I don't like to be rushed", "The heat has to build", "I like to chat and get to know you before...." I hate men who leave without saying goodbye. On and On....so many of the profiles are designed to draw out the video...it is a business.

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I don't know what category you are in but non of my viewers treat me like a sexual server the way you describe but in case you didn't notice this site is about sex and the hosts here are the providers in exchange for money. If you can't handle that then I would say you probably don't belong here as a bitter host that treats members as you describe. The ones that do come must enjoy your attitude....would be pretty hard to hide that.
If you resent being a "sexual server" then why don't you find another form of income that doesn't make you feel that way. I am sexy and sensual and I enjoy sharing that here.

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Respected Host gave her opinion. And I happen to share that opinion. Over the years I have come across several hosts that were ill suited for this business. Nothing wrong with that, the business is not for everyone.

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You don't need to defend the comments that "T" made. It is always bashing at members and I certainly have the right to speak up as a host too. Any host that is here and resents it should move on rather than to bash members constantly. Not all hosts have that attitude and it reflects badly on them. We all the right to speak out true but it serves no good to make sarcastic nasty comments to members in general.

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You must be "T"s studio boss....who wound you us?

T made a negative sarcastic comment directed at members. There was nothing ironical or humorous when it is directed at all members in general.

I don't appreciate it and I see these posts here often so it is easy to assume that that person is not happy with the members that they have had as viewers.

If I don't think it is ironical I am sure others could see it the same and members are the ones that pay to see hosts. I don't think that most come here for abuse!

Now calm down.....

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Certainly no joking but bashing.

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Maybe you missed the first question in chathost FAQ.

1. Can I make money from this ... ?

YES! ..lots of it and with great ease! There are many people on the Net who are earning in excess of $2,000 every week displaying their more exhibitionist side part-time.

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I was reaffirming what you posted "we're here for money "

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You mean long-term/marriage hosts really aren't looking for husbands and boyfriends and are here for the money? Say it isn't so!!! Say it isn't so!!! :(((((((((((((((((( :p

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I like the profiles, one in particular, that are copied over and over and over again by other hosts. I don't who had this one particular profile first, but she should get royalty fees from all others that use it.

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Definitely a great fighter that didn't get enough respect because of Ali's depiction of him. Probably in or close to top 5 of all time from what I hear experts say. It's a shame that he has to go out that way. R.I.P.

Man... Bad few days in PA. Frazier dies, Penn State, Steelers lose, Eagles lose.

I wonder what happened to the Knockouts....he tried a short lived singing career...he would sing/rap accompanied by a back up group of ladies who would also dance around in hot pants....the Knockouts. Probably working on CC.

LOL. Would you want them to say something like "Don’t worry; if you want to just SPANK THE MONKEY, you don’t need to play the game straight away."?

Oh okay, you seem to prefer the direct approach...
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I agree 100%. I always spend far more in pvt when I chat than when I simply watch and wank.

The site has morphed over the years from a show site to mostly a chat site. I have favs here that I chat with here and see them do shows on other sites.

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My guess is you still need a member's participation to some degree, to select a "box" or whatever...

So don't distract him too much! :P

The "boxes" I would pick are not contest related, lol.

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Chatting with hosts distinquishes CC from all the other 121 cam sites. If you have ever seen them they are awful. The host is always on. She is being bombarded by free chat by dozens of men. Most of it is crass, insulting and stupid. Eventually the girl will disappear and be in a video...but don't worry...she is usally back in a matter of a couple of minutes. Those sites seem to feature short expensive videos. So..forget about getting to know a host or find anything meaningful about her (truth or lie)....not a pleasant experience for the member and I doubt the girls like always being on....

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true but they have free chat and i get most of my long tern faves from free.

They may be awful in your opinion, but the reality is those sites are much larger than this and have far more members. So speaking in general terms, it appears you have the minority opinion.

And if the majority opinion = the lowest common denominator, I'm with Mr. So, squarely in the minority.