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part of this site is to let the members have privacy.

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and what are you going to do when you found them? just curious

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I think its ironic, most members will say this is a horrible option to give hosts, about hosts stalking members and such. But Ive met many a host who has been stalked site to site by obsessed fans. Kind of fair play if you ask me.

I think theirs a couple things hosts should have, a 60 second delay option to be ready for a members arrival.

And the ability to end a pvt at their choice.

THhey have the ability to end a session whenever they want. T

Sure, fair play is great......Let the hosts search for members and close a private, but let the member set the price per minute.....Kind of fair play if you ask me :)

I concur!

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Oh great, you want cc to be a clone of other sites?

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Although it sounded to me that she was talking about a database of ALL CC members, if she only meant viewer notes, then just go to that page, select "show all" and click on the "Screenname" button in the blue header, then you'll have them all listed alphabetically, just Ctrl+F+Nickname to find a particular one quicker.

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I gave you so much money and you forget me? ? :-O :-|

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Of course you dont! - I find no host with the screen name "Agree".

no way! let me repeat NO WAY!

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I suggested that and got shouted down.

too bad

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I'm used to it at other sites. And I thinks its only fair. It helps the viewer too when the host is ready to greet them in pvt.

Chanel No.5 nothing beats it.. its like heaven in a bottle.

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I with u on "The One") Perfect for winter:) One of my favs for like 4 years now :)

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gasoline, oil and cigars, that's my woman.

None, most perfume makes my eyes itch.

how can a host be greedy if she is in free chat?

love topics starting with the word "hate"...not!

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Presumably a greedy host in text chat would be one that asks you to talk more?! ;-)

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Nice reply lol

Greedy is, as Greedy Does! no matter what the location...

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"also Lack of brains is a huge turn-off"

I presume you know this because that is what the host told you :P

Interesting comments all! since this post was copied from hosts profile! lol

Turn-Offs
Lack of brains is a huge turn-off, also hate beggars in free chat and unrespectful behavior

so what with this ? I dont get it

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another example of taking something out of context and putting it ones own words...completely changes the whole meaning...

as has been said before...hosts get criticized for what ever is in their profile..many members complain when the host does not make things clear in her profile and they complain when she does make things clear......no matter what we do it is never good enough....so why bother lool

It IS detesful when a hosts comments are looked at in a mirror and seen for what they really are.

WHATS GOOD FOR THE GOOSE IS GOOD FOR THE GANDER.

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I dont see nothing wrong with hosts comments or profile descripitions

she was amazing. Where is she now ????

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thks. Does she come back one day ?

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You are 100% wrong in my opinion. I'm a member and want to be turned on by a great show from the hosts. They give a better show when they are themselves aroused, which in consequence means a better experience for me. So it is in everybody's best interests.

its just an excuse to make more money not to allow the model to be turned on.Its counterproductive in the long run.

It's not counter-productive because a good host's bread and butter income is from her regular's who return time and again for what both parties know is going to be a great interactive experience: the 2 minute wank-and-go members who want to treat them like robots leave little mark: emotionally or financially.

Yes but for that to happen you do not need to turn the host on first. Then again I'm more into the girls posing in certain positions rather than a toys or fingers inserted. As long as they do the poses with a smile on their face there is a good chance they will get me as a regular.

Your fooling yourself if you think these girls get much in terms of sexual gratification on here,only real rewards open to them are financial.Whats free-chat for if its not to get to know model and chat alittle before entering into a video session which lets be honest is solely for the sexual needs of the visitor not the model.

never make the mistake of assuming your thoughts,opinions & feelings are universal.everyone,every situation,every video is unique & preconceptions will always affect interaction & outcomes :--

I happen to agree with pt viewer. He is not assuming, he is only calling a spade a spade.

one man's spade is another man's shovel,but they will both dig you into a hole :--)

Seems to me that you haven't yet realised (I'll whisper it quietly, prepare yourself for a shock) that women like sex too

Yes true, women do like sex but not with you or any of the viewers that pay to watch them on cam sites.

You can only talk from your own experience (or rather perhaps lack of it). In my case (and I am sure many other's) what you say is demonstrably untrue, but I have no desire to convince you of it.

"but I have no desire to convince you of it."

Because you can't!

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Everything done on the internet is known as virtual reality. This is NOT real sex. Real sex occurs only in person. The only thing that is real is the money the hosts and cc make and the credit card bills members get.

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I met quite a few guys from here and had very real sex with some of them :) LOL

Prostitution is illegal on cc

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The only reason he can't convince you is because your mind is made up. And there is no possibility to provide proof. I know from my own experiences with hosts outside of videos on CC that what part-time viewer said applies to some hosts but not all..

No, he can't convince because I'm not an idiot. And if you are saying that you have "hooked up" with a host in real and had real sex you just proved my point. The only real sex is done in person. That was my whole point. Talking about guys like you hooking up with hosts in real is another post. According to Bill Gates and Steve Jobs, what we all do on the internet is called virtual reality, NOT real world. But maybe you and pt viewer want to say Gates and Jobs were wrong.

I understand that hooking up with hosts in real is a different subject. I am talking about talking with hosts who I was not longer visiting in video, including hostts who stopped hosting some time ago. My point is that some hosts do sometimes, in some cases quite often, get sexual gratification on here.

" in some cases quite often, get sexual gratification on here."

Yes meaning both the host and viewer masturbated and get their rocks off. Yes of course. My point was that the sex between 2 people on line is simulated rather than actual as it is in the real world. Yes wanking is an actual form of sex, but I was referring to actual physical intercourse as opposed to on line simulation.

So I think we just had a misunderstanding and that we actually agree.

The part of the thread in which i posted related to part-time viewers post that started "Your fooling yourself if you think these girls get much in terms of sexual gratification on here..."

OK if we are splitting hairs you may be correct. But most would agree physical sex between 2 people is much more real and gratifying than wanking. And when it comes to wanking I know best. But when I pay for a pvt my only concern is that I get off. Yes if the host gets off as well great, but I'm paying for me to get off not the host. And no getting her off does not make me feel any different.

We can agree to disagree.

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guess you are very selfish partner in real life too

What your talking about is gratification from the knowledge that someone is paying them for their sexuality,that can be a turn on and an ego boost.Nothing to do with you tho its still only the money that is driving force behind it.

Agree 100%. Making money is a turn on

Nothing to do with being female,more to do with this being a form of income or for some models a way to travel or improve their lives.I don't class anything that happens here or anywhere online as sex.

Then we are in agreement.

when member warm me up and turn me on then i will be wet and give a great show ,but probably with your behave you will get just a robot show ALL THE TIME ! :)

if u like when women behave as robots with you- no problem

"if u like when women behave as robots with you- no problem"

No not like robots, like professionals

its suck:P

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well it will all depend on what your desire is.....if you are a member that just wants to see a host automatically put a toy in her or start masterbating as soon as you say hello then you know very well there is a category for that called instant action....

a professional to me means....... trying to make the member feel comfortable and at ease so the member enjoys himself more...in order to do that the host must also feel comfortable and at ease with the member...if a member does not feel comfortable and at ease with the host then he will not enjoy himself much now will he?

Its up the member to make himself comfortable. Its up to the PAID host to entertain him.

I'd like to know what categories that you are going to where you get these comments. If you go to hardcore there should be no discussion or small chat so why don't you stick there to get what you want? Softcore is definitely not your style or hers. So why go there?

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Follow the money. All of those requests from hosts translate into one thing and one thing only....video minutes. They know the longer they can delay the nudity the more they will make. Once a member is turned on and ejaculates the meter stops running. If a host can get a member to waste 5, 10 or even 15 minutes "turning her on" is money in the bank. And the host is actually getting turned on by the delay...not sexually but financially.... Can't blame them. This is a business...and in any business you do whatever it takes for your customers to buy more of your product.

I think that maybe it is not right for you to make such a general statement as it sounds like you are accusing all hosts of doing this....not all hosts are that way...there are hosts who take the time to talk in free chat without asking nor pressuring nor tricking a member into video

What's wrong with a host working her craft in such a way as to make as much money as possible for both herself and this site?

I am. All hosts are here to make money. Nothing else. And we were talking about hosts saying that once in paying video a member would have to spend time getting the host in the mood before the sex part of the show was started. Two things to learn...they could care less what you say or do...it is all about the video minutes..the longer you take the better...and as for turning them on...a member never really turns on a member...her bf, husband, lover in real life does that...not an image or words on a screen...but they will pretend to be slowly stimulated as long as the money is rolling in. Nothing wrong with that hosts. But ...dont suggest that hosts really mean getting turned on for real before a video...its is all about extending the video as most of us CC oldtimers know only too well.

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I have to admit no member has ever turned me on :P

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LOL...sorry that was a typo....I meant to say a member never really turns on a host...sure on occasion...but in general the time hosts ask members to spend to turn them on is based solely on a desire to extend the video....

I saw you typo but understood u right, dont worry. INYF havent got you right. ))

"I am. All hosts are here to make money. Nothing else."

You are spot on So.

You're spot on . I agree 100%

agree with So

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Some just will never get it! A softcore host is shy and does require the interaction if she is going to remove her clothes. Has nothing to do with ringing up minutes as you say. If you want an instant show then go to IA or NSS because it says minimal chat and they are definitely not shy!

You are very correct hosts are here to make money.....however...

I am sorry to disagree with you...but you are sooo insulting and very wrong....there are hosts on here that do get turned on and do enjoy the sex with some of the members....and there are hosts that do not make you spend a lot of money to do it...I happen to be one of them...I will not waste a persons time nor money saying I am turned on if I am not...I do not get turned on by all members that would be a lie to say I do..i do not get turned on by the same veiwer every time either...but I sure as hell do get turned on by some viewers at times ....and yes words can be arousing...

So until you have been with every single host on here and can prove your statements true.....I would ask that you do not speak for all hosts when it comes to whether they really get turned on or not...just because you have encountered hosts that pretend to be that does not give you the right to clump all hosts in the same general statements...

i may be wrong, but i think i remember hearing once that there's actually an entire category here devoted to providing members instantaneous nudity and play.

There are many rule violators in both hardcore categories

Then complain about them not all in general!

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Off site ads for cc read NAKED GIRLS. Viewers sign up to see naked girls not your time.

other sites do advertise naked girls...however....it is up to the member to also read the site they are signing up to and find out what it is about...this site clearly says about the different categories...

would you rather have all hosts just put false in their profiles and try to trick and screw you out of your money? we hosts are criticized for not being upfront and we are criticized for being upfront..

I have gone to some of the places that advertise this site....and the profile they are showing I have not had for well over a year....you dont sign to buy a car or get a loan without reading..so why would you not check the site you are joining?

when registering with this site it clearly tells the categories.....any site be it a sex site or not.....anyone knows when joining a place that is advertised somewhere else to make sure you read what the place is about...

This site Camcontacts advertises in CAPS NAKED GIRLS. That is factually correct because there are naked girls on site. The category guidelines are vague references to what you may expect in pvt. They are not host rules. And to expect is no guarantee. But when you have a new member that just saw that ad, it is firmly imprinted on his mind, that being the part about NAKED GIRLS. If you want to get a straight man's attention, just mention NAKED GIRLS, and you'll have it.

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nellgwynn is good for oranges, her plums are nice too

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That's apples and oranges, not apples and apples.

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The more a model earn the more warm she gets ;)

You got that right!

wow the more i read that the more i realize how lucky i been with members since this 4 years :)))

your post seems to affirm"some hosts"thinking.seems very real world to me except here the hosts have the bonus of not actually having to touch us :--)

"except here the hosts have the bonus of not actually having to touch us :--)"

Well here we agree. They never have to touch us (or smell us) and yet they can touch our wallets in major ways.

My suggestion is that you stick with the hardcore section and not venture to softcore shy hosts!

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If this si the attitude you have to all spects of your life I am sure you often get only average service in restaurants and shops and if you are a manager you certainly do not always get the best perormance out of the people who work for you. Money may be the main motivator but for many people it is not the only one.

As the opening poster said nothing to indicate that you shouldn't be polite and respectful to hosts only that he expected them to do their jobs I will continue your analogy.

I would certainly avoid any restaurant or shop where I was expected to get the waiter / waitress or shop assistant "in the mood" and at the same time pay them before they would serve me my food or groceries.

Good evening sir I'm not really in the mood to serve you your food tonight. How about if I go and sit in the corner and you make me a cup of tea and serve me first. Oh and because I am sitting doing nothing my boss won't pay me (obviously one of these bosses that does not get the best from their staff) so can you also make up the money I will lose. Once you have done that I might then be in the mood to serve you your dinner.

I would also be looking to get rid of any employees who wouldn't start work before I had "got them in the mood".

You say it better than anyone can INYF.

To me this is not about hosts requiring members to turn them on to get any sort of show. It is the difference between a good show and a really great one.
The original poster was complaining about hosts who say they need to be "warmed up or turned on" to have a great time in private. These hosts do not say they will not do their best to ensure that the member has a good time in private. Just that if the host is enjoying herself he will get a better time.

"These hosts do not say they will not do their best to ensure that the member has a good time in private"

I conclude that is what they are saying by their comments. We simply have a different opinion. I firmly believe the only reason a host would say anything like that is to greatly increase the length of her pvt. I know the girls are here to make as much money as possible. And I support that. But let's just call it what it is.

The other side of the coin is that some members whether as part of their fantasy or becuase they are deluding themselves actually like some sort of "courtship" and to feel the host is getting some pleasure (besides watching her revenues) from what she does here. Hosts who put these comments in their profiles may be wanting to attract these members.

Yes I completely agree. There are no shortage of delusional viewers on site. And yes hosts know this. I never said hosts weren't smart. In fact they are much smarter than most viewers. All I was doing is calling this spin hosts put in their profile what it is. The longer a host can keep a member in pvt the more she makes and in most cases much much more than if she did a quick show ala IA.


There is no argument, just tell it like it really is.

gr8 post ;)

Why not install a "Chat only" category too, where hot girls in breathtaking lingerie sit on their beautyful asses and play the keyboard for hours? :D

Give it up. That's what I've done in terms of category changes even if I would like to see some. And after people paying $10 and $12 in the last contest, CC isn't about to change anything. Enough members are obviously happy just as things are.

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lmao spot on but maybe you should forgive the error a little,he could of been drunk :--)

I think you'd get a lot of objection from the current Glamour hosts that do strip now, which is why I suggested an entirely new category. But it will never happen anyway, I'm just mouthing off.

why dont all the hosts who would like to chat only not move to the 'Make New Friends' category. wouldn't this solve the problem?

While the idea has merit you have forgotten that members think with their dicks. After seeing a girl prance around in a bikini and lingerie for a few minutes members are going to want to see more. So the glamour hosts, as many do now, will have more adult IDs for that type of show. We already have a non-nude category...non-adult. If a host wants to chat and not strip at all...go there. Otherwise...off with the top.

I agree, but I made this suggestion with certain hosts in mind.

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Just because you want to pick a host and demand her to take off her clothes doesn't mean she is available for that so why don't you stay in limited categories where you won't be disappointed rather than tell us what we should or shouldn't be doing? It is our business and you have a choice of shopping somewhere else. Apparently you can't be content in somewhere else. Why don't you block yourself from Glam and Little Shy Categories if you can't get the results that you want.....makes much more sense!

why new category look around the women will not abide by the rules anyway make new friends is non nude but half the girls are telling members no nudity while jumping back and forth to glamour thats if they do not have a screen name open there already.
and the glamour girls are in this category and saying they dont strip or do nothing but chat
you have some glamour girls doing full adult shows in 121 and some hardcore hosts who don't do hard core but for a select few
so why add more confusion when no matter how easy cc tries to make it the host mess it up to benefit their mood
the truth is until cc decides to make categories and hold the host responsible to sticking to the rules on them IE penalties and deducting their money when breaking the rules and monitoring the sessions to see nothing is being broken. then the models will make their own rules and mess up any system cc puts in place here.

models make money yes but we as members bring the money and cc needs to start seeing our opinions instead of covering the hosts all the time sorry i am venting but i hope you get my point

cc does fine and they do penalize for breaking the rules ....any time I have broken a rule (and I did not break the rule intentionally) cc has been very fast to fine and or penalize me...heck they even did it when they thought I broke rules..and I had to prove to them that I did not before they would take the fine back and they apologized....so I really do not know how these hosts get away with breaking rules...

you are very right...hosts that break the rules should be fined and or penalized...and either prove that they did not break the rule or do what I had to do in order to be able to host again....

I wish members would stop generalizing....Not all hosts break the rules...but to hear members on here talking....they make it like all hosts screw things up...

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Or the number of violations are greatly exaggerated. Over the last few years I have videoed with quite a few girls on here and not one of them ever refused to strip once she had agreed in free chat.

Now maybe it's because I am very good at only being attracted to the "bad" girls or perhaps it's because I am quite happy to chat for a few minutes first rather than the first words I grunt being tits pussy ass etc

But I suspect it is because the problem is greatly exaggerated.

"But I suspect it is because the problem is greatly exaggerated."

With all due respect I disagree. It may be that large numbers of viewers get ripped off and simply leave the site and never post or even email cc to complain. Trust me, the industry norm is to ignore viewers. I think most viewers are unaware of this forum, since except for 1 other, there are none on other sites.

So I have to say violations are under reported. This is only my opinion based on many years of going to cam sites.

that mean you can talk with women, some men are not, even in real world. thats why you always get what you want, some others seem never get what they want...sorry for them :)

"Not all hosts break the rules...but to hear members on here talking....they make it like all hosts screw things up..."

I've never posted that all hosts screw things up and can't recall every seeing a post by anyone that said that.

The point is why come on here and complain about girls not following the rules when it is a small majority and instead complain to CC when it happens and get results? Why do guys come on here with all these additions when for most it works.
It frustrates hosts too when girls end up in the wrong category for what they do and it effects all the others in that category.

i agree not all are in the wrong category and breaking rules but allot are.
glamour hosts how many of them are doing full adult or not doing anything at all?
not doing anything while not in the rules they have to but if a host is here for chat what are you in glamour or little shy? why not move to non-adult
Truth is when i see a non-adult performer in make new friends or so on i never ask any show but if i see in glamour i expect some kind of show even if not nude.
when i say these hosts are ruining the categories i mean this.
not all hosts but allot of the reason men go and want a full adult show from glamour maybe because he is getting them from other girls
or if we go to non adult to ask show maybe because of the hosts who are working both sections or jumping categories.
we never know who they are unless we ask.
i have been on cc since 2002 and before 121 was issues with non-adult and models doing shows in password protected sessions
that's why cc changed to glamour for these hosts but it had a reverse effect and allot of hosts bend the rules to benefit them and ruined what cc was trying to do

You can vastly reduce having to yield to the choice of the softcore hosts by simply asking in free chat if she strips. Every host that has agreed to strip did so. It's only once they have agreed to strip that I then go to video and actually ask them to put clothes on :P

I agree...a couple of simple questions before the video would eliminate all the problems members seem to have with hosts and their videos. CC will back you if a host does not deliver what she promises. But be specific and define precisely what you want. If the host is vague about agreeing or gives some other evasive answer...save yourself the grief...move on to another host...she has no intention of stripping. Easy.

i wish i had the choice not to read this thread now. :(

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I have no choice - mistress told me i must read this forum, and report to her the contents.

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...in a hopeless place... I love you too (G)

As long as he moves like Jagger....

but is he a disciple?

bcs some members really deserve

excellent answer ! + 1!

If it's not required, a host not in a category that does not require it can use the distant promise of nudity as a lure to extend video sessions and thus earn more, right? or she can use the nudity as a reward to certain members who not only earn it by spending a lot on her, but who behave especially well and especially to her liking.....that makes sense too, right? if you were a host and you could amass a clientele of money slaves and virtual sugar daddies in certain categories, wouldn't you?

Because some girls want to and others probably figure that they will make more money....lol

Because I deserve it.

1. categories have different minimum prices so some might want to charge a lower price than other categories allow

2. some don't mind stripping but like the idea that they can say no if they don't like the guy

3. some probably are willing to strip all the time but don't like toys and hard core and they look at soft core as this type of category

4. money... they make more money stripping than not stripping in some cases

5. INYF deserves it

6. I deserve it too.

Concise.

Well done. :)))

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... I'm worth it

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Some of them actually enjoy it, when its with someone they like. They don't want to strip for just any stranger who barks at them to, so they don't work in categories that require it.

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And someday, I hope you will be able to move beyond this issue and discover that there is so much more in life besides this one thing that consumes your thinking and enjoying of this site.

I bet someone has a big credit card bil, lol. But true. Some hosts are worth getting to know better.

I get horny too...but in the hardcore category...it is not only expected but often demanded....I do not use toy and I am do not always masterbate.....but I do remove clothing as well as other requests (and there are many different types of requests that do not involve shoving a dildo or fist inside)....and there are times that a simple conversation can lead into more...or even someone will come along and the way they are can be enticing......so in little shy category....I am able to express my wilder side naturally...when I was in not so shy....it was a constant demand of get naked now...finger yourself now...cum now...and that was what they thought was foreplay....lol....I am not one that can pretend nor automatically be aroused just because someone says hi, I am hard and horny so get to it...after a while of hearing that constantly, it became a big turn off and rather than disappoint I chose to change categories to little shy....

for many hosts (mostly those in not so shy, instant action or those that have rooms in hard and soft core) they seem to have no trouble with doing such things and many of them are good at faking it too....and as I have read many posts saying "we don't if she fakes it as long as she is good at it" or "I am paying so the host will do what I say and when" or "I am paying so why should I bother to arouse a host, she should be arousing me" or "if a host is not going to do these things then they do not belong in the hard core categories"...

When I do show the wilder side of myself in such a way then I like to enjoy it....I do not stall in my videos and I do not say I will do something then say no once in video....but the wilder side is often a surprise and can be much more enjoyable when it is not expected.

The same here....I dont mind to get naked and play, I even like it myself if I am in mood. But what I really hate to do it in rush. I need to take my time for hot show. I was in other sites out of categories and find myself its' not for me when a viewer enters my room and starts with commands: get naked, spread legs, get doggy, cum..so 5-10 mins and he got his cum and off from the chat with no even bye and thanks. I cant stand the rule I must get naked for everybody who are in in my chat (even if I am not in playful mood) thats why I awoid hardcore category and choose softcore. Toys and anal are not my thing too. I like to be naturally aroused and really horny for hot show, hate to pretend for it. My opinion for the show I need minimum 30 mins, but better 1 hr, with my price its from 50 $ to 100 $ for viewer thats not so much and if a guy cant afford it he shouldnt expect a show from me.

Ladies, thank you... this is precisely the reason I might spend some time "chatting" up a host, and I'm some kind of sissy boy I guess? It's like members here don't understand female anatomy, or how women get aroused...

Which explains a lot, actually.

"I'm some kind of sissy boy"

Your words, not mine.

Did I call you a sissy boy? Sorry if that offended you.

sorry, but you have no idea what is it "sissy boys" or "money slave" and what they need in video. SeemsReal is a gentleman who cares about woman more than about himself...hmm maybe I would think to meet in real with such kind of men. :)

Ah, well... princess. Thank you. :)))))

"but you have no idea what is it "sissy boys" or "money slave"

I most certainly do. And no I'm not one.

While I would happily spend an hour in video with a host at the prices you quote I have to admit that the host being turned on is not something I really care about (probably because I imagine that no host is really turned on when she is videoing with me). As I'm paying the only one I care about getting turned on is me.

My sentiments exactly my friend

Well, thats you, your rights are all here. I only hope that aroused host not turn off for you at least? If yes, that maybe something not right with you, because normally for most men (as I know) pretending, cold woman is turn off, except sissy boys and money slaves (they adore arrogant goddess who merely ignoring them in video chat). By the way you never been in my video (if you use the same name for videochatting).

I would prefer a host to be turned on but if she isn't and is good at pretending she is enjoying herself with me (or pretending to be turned on) then I am happy.

It's the same with the friendship. I would love it to be real but I am wise enough to know that hosts are only pretending because I am paying. And I see nothing wrong with that. For a few minutes I can pretend that these beautiful, young sexy girls really do find me funny, sweet and generous.

I do video with this name and others. So if a member has ever asked you to wear jeans in your video then it could very well have been me.

But I think you are right and that we have probably never had a video.

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I never ask hosts to put on clothes. If you were wearing jeans or anything else, I would ask you to take it off. But often when I do that in softcore, I am told to go to IA or sometimes just to go to hell.

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I ask politely sometimes in free chat, but most times in open vid after 5 or 10 minutes and ask if they ever undress or make a comment I would like to see what is under whatever they are wearing. I can't help it if I am a perverted wanker.

I do not call anyone sissy nor money slave, to me we are all people with different desires and requests...

I do not expect anyone to turn me on, but there are men on here that do like to try to do that and there are times when it just simply happens...

A person does not have to spend an hour in video turning me on, most often the talking it is in free chat, and they will then ask if I will be willing to remove my clothes, so I do not make people stay in my video for long periods of time, it is their choice how long they are in video for.

Most members will come to my free chat and ask me about their request and I prefer that so that no one wastes their money, I am upfront of what I will and will not do as soon as I know the request. Many member have many different requests, including asking a host to put on certain clothes, ie secretary clothes, lingery, leather, and many other types of clothing, sometimes the clothing stays on sometimes they come off, it all depends on the person who has the request.

As I said in my response not all members care if a host is pretending or not as long as she is good at it and that is fine, I am just not one that will pretend to enjoy when it comes to being in an intimate way. That is my preference, and honesty with a member from the begining gives the member the option to take the chance or to find a host that will say definately yes to all that is asked of them...so for myself shy category is the best place for me.

I think it is sad and unreasonable for a host to get mad or be rude to a member simply because he asks her if she will remove her clothes, we are on a sex site for heavens sake, and that is one of the things that is to be expected as a request no matter what category a host is in. The only time a softcore host should suggest a member go to IA is when he says he is wanting instant use of a toy or masterbation, and this should be said in a polite suggestive way. Otherwise a host can simply say in a polite way that she does not get nude. There is no need for a host to be rude just because a member asks for something.

A person can not always say when or what or who will turn them on. I can be doing a simple dance with strip and it can turn into more and can be a nice surprise for both. But this can happen as long as the host is honest and does not make false promises and agreements.

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I remember her well but what she got up to once she left here I have no idea.

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great tits on her ;) . never belived the banned from adult categories story.

Yes I do... visited her a couple of times

She left for a long time and eventually returned as I recall...not sure it was this length of time however. She was getting a little older and bigger and maybe decided it was time to move on though she was not competing with the younger girls solely on her looks. You never know...once in a while an oldie but goodie pops up again but for the most part...like the McRib sandwich...when they are gone..they are gone.

but you can always count on the McRib coming back this year, next year, or at some time in the future.

Once i took her prv and told her to cut the crap and get nude. She got really mad and didnt show anything muahahahhaa

Or it could be because they were all pretending to "be nice" during the competition :P

Members go to their favorites during contests. A bunch of fans visited hosts, rated them 5 stars and ratings went up. I don't think it means anything one way or another, but it would be nice if you were correct.

Well, yes, CC contest time is a happy one. Reality doesn't set in until the credit card statements are due... let's see, that should be just before Xmas?

certainly a success for one particular host

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DHL tried to expand into USA but fell short. They've been known to be your best bet in Europe, but any of them should do just fine there. Expensive, though...

so since when have parcelforce dealt with letters? surely PARCELforce deal with PARCELS?

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as someone who deals with important documents all the time i can tell you never, never, ever use a government run postal service anywhere in the world. pay the money for fed ex or even ups

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Yes, very frustrating for you. I'm in London and I too was not confident about Parcel Force so I always use Mail Boxes Etc. They pack for me then phone around for the best deal on my behalf. All parcels I've sent aboard have been fully trackable online. They have never let me down yet.
Good luck.

The bigger joke is posting anything from the UK to Russia... it seems to get delivered whenever they feel like it, if at all.

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Ive got once a parcel from UK, it came in 2 weeks

watch DHL for double billing and over estimating taxes .
good company as said before but expensive.

uk to russia?..so that would have nothing to do with the russian postal service then?..blame parcelforce its much easier

Yes, I should clarify that this has nothing to do with Parcel Force. I've actually always found Parcel Froce to be pretty good. Have used them lots over the years and never any issues.

i have always found Parcelforce entirely satisfactory. They are my first choice when I need the services of a parcel delivery service.

Try Argentina...I send packages last season to a few of my friends...out of 5 packages..2 made it...2 disappeared and one wound up open with contents missing.

Never used them, but can say the USPS isn't much better. My brother overnighted a resume' and job application through the US PO to ensure it was received on time. He never heard anything on the job but 3 months later his overnight envelope was returned to him, mangled by one of their sorting machines.

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"and take a quick look at the photos. really all the women here are quite stunning. "

Maybe you're just being politically correct, but I've quite a few girls on here I do not want to see in pvt even if they were free. Yes there are many stunning women on cc and other cam sites as well. But to say they all are is just not accurate unless you are blind.

<have become used to being the center of attention in their lives.>
I agree with your general comments about the attitude which possibly makes some hosts more successful here than others, but disagree with your premise that the hosts are in any sense exceptional in their own environments. Of course they are very attractive, but in the cities from which they originate they represent only a small proportion of their peer group, and it would be naive in the extreme to assume they are the only attractive members of their generation, or that all the attractive members of their generation gravitate towards sites like cc. On the contrary, the assumption must surely be that there are far more attractive girls in Kostroma, Bucharest, Perm, Brasov etc not hosting, than are hosting. So is really not a case that they are the centre of attention in their own lives: they have the same competition there as they do here.

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Looks like you've been visiting some of these cities hehe... if u go to a disco or club in Bucharest u'll think ur at a fashion show ;)

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so if i understand you correctly, you are saying that hosts feel more free to tell a guy to go to hell here than in real life, because there are really no bad consequences. that is a good thing i would say. but also as you say a 'bad' attitude can put a viewer off quickly maybe? and what country are you from where all women look like models? i want to move there, or at least vacation there.

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I concurrr!

"especially that in my country all young women look like models"
You are russian
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:)Yes i agree with you. Sometimes is the other way : webcaming boosts your self esteem regarding the way you look.
In the end...all this horny men telling me I look like a goddess ( they would say anything to get into my pants,ofc ) makes me think sometimes ,i may actually look a little like a goddess. :D

u mean that hosts who failed the contests all have bad attitude, thats why they didnt win? I dont think so really, can be other reasons.

did not mean hosts who lost contest have a bad attitude. getting into the top 50 they would have to have some kind of regular customers probably, and from there it was all pure luck.

Beauty is fleeting...just go to your high school reunions after a few years. Age, motherhood, work, responsbilities, stress, gravity, genetics...all take their toll in short order. I think many of the girls are smart enough to realize that they are idolized here more than in the real world...and many of them realize that physical beauty is fleeting but while it lasts they are going to make some money with it. I think the pursuit of youth is the main reason members come here. The freshness and desireability of young attractive women is like a drug. If you wonder if the girls realize that beauty is fragile just stay for a while and see the huge turnover in hosts over a period of years. Those beautiful girls of the past...and there were so many...have moved on..hopefully to better things but to things that do not rely solely on their physical appearance.

I hate to burst your bubble with your theory but there is a high level of interest in mature women who are very attractive and have taken good care of themselves despite the elements of child bearing, etc. that you speak of. This interest is not only on cam sites from younger males but also men similar age and in real life as well.
I assume you are an older man and lust for the look of the younger girl opposed to a woman but do not assume to speak for all because I am here to tell you that it certainly is not the case :) It could be a trend but it is certainly much more common than you are aware of.

thank you :)

Your welcome! Also, I was going to mention that I have no facial or body enhancements or surgeries but many of the young top hosts under 30 do so is it natural beauty or is cosmetic beauty that the older gentlemen like So is referring to that appeals to them so much?

I agree with the general idea that a good personality and attitude helps a chathost have success, but I disagree with how they get to that point. The way I read your post, you seem to be saying that a chathost sits back, calculates what type of attitude she needs to have and then proceeds to display that attitude here. That is basically saying a chathost can be fake and succeed and seems contrary to what your real point is, namely a good personality and attitude helps a chathost succeed.

In my view, a good attitude and personality, be it real or fake, works on CC. The key is giving the viewer what he wants, and if fake, then simply being good at hiding who you really are.

There are plenty of popular hosts here who are fake. Some of them are my friends since they are their real selves with me and don't take things too far in terms of hurting guys as far as I know and some of them I despise because I learn one way or another that they are royal bullshit artists, that in some cases, have really hurt members. Many of these hosts have had a lot of success during contests by the way so being fake works, just as long as the member doesn't know it.

Fortunately, however, being your real self can work too for a host as long as that real self is a woman with a good heart. There are plenty of them on this site too, and some have a lot of success here.

Unfortunately, if I was going to do some type of unscientific analysis, I would conclude that the fake ones outperform the real ones in my personal opinion, but once again, they both have once thing in common: having a personality that appeals to members in one way or another. Looks can attract a guy, but unless he wants to just play, he is only going to stick around so long especially when he is online and can just jump to another room. But while I agree with the general idea that hosts with good personalities do well here, that doesn't mean that all of these hosts are being genuine. Some of them are just acting and give a member what they want, and some of them can be quite cruel and manipulative by being sweet as opposed to being some type of dungeon host.

Also, I think you need to give members credit too. Some members can bring out the best in a host and get her to open up to him. From there, the relationship can grow which can mean he visits her more often and she has more success here. The member can see something inside of the host that draws him to her. Of course, sometimes this is a bit superficial such as an older guy having a sort of paternal instinct to take care of a younger host and she warms to him, but other times it can be two equals and it is simply a case where the member knows how to get a person to open up to him when he sees something that he likes. That doesn't mean he likes shy hosts, necessarily. Instead, it could be that a host just has a lot of interesting things to talk about, and the member knows how to ask the right questions, show that he's really interested, et cetera. I am not sure that I am explaining that correctly, but what I am trying to say is that a woman's attraction to a man's personality can in turn lead her to be a better host, not just the other way around, and sometimes what gets things rolling is the man reaching out to the woman with a comment such as "Wow. You're studying x. I've always been interested in x. Tell me more."

The bottom line is that there are many ways for a host to succeed here. But always remember that guys will usually at least as a first step be drawn to looks. That doesn't mean the host needs to be a goddess... She can just have a sweet smile, for example. But it is almost about how the host looks at first that gets the guy's attention. Keeping the member coming, as opposed to cumming, lol, can be more about the personality as you say. Once again, however, that doesn't mean that the host is being her true, genuine self. It still can just all be an act, albeit a very good one. And also, the member's approach is a big factor too.

Hope that all made sense. Usually my posts are long, but I do a better job of explaining myself. This issue is a bit more tricky with so many factors so it was harder.

I did not read your comments
Just want to say: I don`t have the time, it`s always too looooooong

You got that right, hoss!

Yeah,,,, They are long. And this one barely made sense, lol. Sorry. I had some good thoughts in there but I couldn't bring them together and just flamed out.

Ah, but you keep your sense of humor. That's good.

Sleep on it next time; you might find all kinds of thing to cut out. LOL.

"The key is giving the viewer what he wants"

Long post but those 9 words said it all. Case closed.

I actually have to struggle a little to find someone so gorgeous that i want to pvt based on that alone. Most all are attractive, even very attractive sure, but not very many are truly gorgeous to me. But there are other reasons i'd pvt or like someone here beyond just looks.
Different strokes make the world go 'round though

Just take a look at the last contest winners They are all shapes,ages,weights and personalities . Form dominatrixs, to average girls that charge 5$ without stripping, shy girls and some sweethearts .
The truth is being a successful host is a relative thing which involves a mixture of personality ( first of all!) ,english skills,some psychological intuition( what the public wants and what makes it stick with you),beauty,the will to strip and sometimes break the boarders of your ''safety'' zone ,many many many....hours spent online,experience,aesthetic taste( how to pose for the cam,lights quality etc) and lots of luck.
''Beautiful and pussy'' just, as the post below says, is rarely enough.

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The Dominatrix have a huge advantage with tons of money slaves

I doubt;because slaves are rarely the competitive type ;) But any domina is welcomed to contradict me. I am not experienced in this matter.

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....Or does money buy the beauty which is so true for many of the top hosts here. It is sad that they feel that they aren't adequate as they are and have facial enhancements, breast implants, butt implants, botox etc. and they are young girls not even 30 yet! Is that stunning beauty or is that buying beauty to be on a porn site?? It is much more common than most know.....

lol. I've often had that thought. Not saying all the girls here get rich or anything. Happy to pay for your time.:)

depends what you mean by privacy...maybe it means their private life...or maybe it means things they do in one to one video...

for myself privacy is what I do in one to one when I am being sexual....and privacy also means my private life....

She can block certain areas, viewers and some won't reveal unless they can see the other on cam. Many times hosts don't show her face on profile pic. So there are several ways to keep her privacy from family, friends or viewers that she doesn't want to see her.
Think I have a suspicion who is asking...

its so she can block stalkers family members seeing her kitty .

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"If anyone can see me, there's no privacy." I completely agree. Although viewers do have the option of being totally anonymous should they choose. However I've heard many choose to share their cam, share photos of self, family, home, work and all kinds of things. Their choice not mine. But then the member is the one paying.

Thanks to all who replied.

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HEY i seen that vagina before!

Remember hosts are not vieweable in their home countries and other places where they might have relatives and friends. Most girls work here because their work here is unknown to their family and friends in many cases. They remain annoymous to members. They can give you a name, a history, a city but it may or may not be accurate and even if it is...they will never see you again after they leave CC. That gives them a comfort level that to appear here keeps their identity private from those they care about. Some hosts will not show their faces in profile pics and some even will not appear naked while their face is showing...

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sooo if a host was not in the top 10 for the last 4 days then she wont have a chance...because if they do those who have been in the top 10 for the 4 days ...that means that it will be more of a chance for those who already won

so that means that if a host was not in the top 10 for most of the 4 days then she is toast...so it works out to about the same...loool

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I remember last year it was all people from top 50 from all the days were in the grand prize draw, I'm sure that's how they will do it this year too.

why u send to cc such emails.? i think they know better than u sweety:) how to do. hugzz

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There are many hosts who do not have photoshop pictures all the time that are not winners....

You can't go by the winners. You need to look at the top 50, see what place they were in on the list, and do some type of analysis to determine if photoshop has anything to do with whom members play with. All the winners tell you is which of the top 50 were chosen, but they could have been the bottom 20 for all you know.

The only thing I noticed when going over the top 50 on day 3, and I imagine it was the same the other days, is at least 80% were soft core or dungeon. This is understandable because guys are more likely to just chat with these hosts so these hosts end up with more regulars. Nevertheless, it felt like a disturbing trend in that it encourages hosts to focus more on talk and less on action, I knew glamour and dungeon had taken over CC, but I never knew it was that bad lol.

that is a bit unfair to say and assume... there are those of us that do more than just chat....

just because I am in little shy category, does not mean that I do not have a wild side. :)

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what is bad about , if someone won several days in a row? if 1 girl won 250 for a 4 days and other 1000 in a one day. maybe if it is were u ,then u would not tell this things :) i realy beleive that thouse who trying hard and have a lot of videos- deserve to win :)

"just because I am in little shy category, does not mean that I do not have a wild side. :)"

Yes it does.

No it does not...

I have a very healthy wild side...what gives you the right to tell me that I don't when you obviously have not spent any time to find out...loool ..

You are right. I am sure that that is also the case with most of the soft core hosts that made it into the top 50.

"Nevertheless, it felt like a disturbing trend in that it encourages hosts to focus more on talk and less on action, I knew glamour and dungeon had taken over CC, but I never knew it was that bad lol."


Amen my brother

As members always say....it's supply and demand. If the viewers enjoy softcore hosts more then that is the way it is....who are you to judge.

I agree, this is "Money Slave and Sissy Boy Central"

So gentlemen that like to get to know a host and slowly seduce her and enjoy her beauty are all sissy boys....lol. If anything it seems like the shy categories are attracting gentlemen which is what softcore is all about not hardcore with a click. :) Good Luck
I guess only the shy hosts would know the viewers they attract....

I love to chat with softcore hosts. They are very lovely and smart. And they all tell me most of their customers are sissy boys and money slaves. Maybe they lie, but that's what they tell me.

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I don't think category matters. Women are masters at making men their slaves in one way or another. It has happened to all of us. :(

and men are not masters in getting what they want from women or turn them into slaves??????:o....or am i the last dreamer??:)))))).i'm a woman btw and still looking for the TAMER of my life:p and Moonlit Knight i should hire u for writting my personal bio-man' u write novels here:))))).we can become very rich together:p

well at this moment a sub from dungeon is top, although it won't last but kinda blows your slave theory out the water.

The only subs in Dungeon are the viewers. As Moonlit Night pointed out in another thread, dominas/dominarix own this site.

This is "Sissy Boy Central"

if you think 22sunny is a dom (which was the host leading at that time) then you know very little about that category

Yes. I have heard this from a host friend. Also, I believe that only the first member into video can play so that could be part of the problem too.

Maybe going to the home page of the affiliate will tell you if the contest is available there.

Hi, yeah you can only play the game on CC!

thank you...so it is like last year...if member did not register directly through cc then they can not play the game...that does not really sound fair seeing as they spend just as much money as members who have registered directly through the cc link...

thank you for responding...have a great time and good look with the contest...

Actually it makes sense because the affiliate site viewers get a discount as you will see in your revenue page so why should they benefit from the contests? Ask them to join CC directly and use your name as referred by. They probably to pay the same amount in the end but the other site takes their cut too.

they are on cc...but they used an affliliate to join....and it was one member in one to one...and the option to play did not come up which has happened with other members who register through an affiliate and not directly using only the cc link thanks again...

I am not sure if this is what you mean but you can register an account on an affiliate and then log into CC itself. That might be causing a problem. The system might not recognize the account as eligible for participating in the contest even though it is being used on CC since it was not created on CC and was instead created on the affiliate.

If the issue is an account was created on CC and the member enters when nobody else is already there, then contact CC. That member should be able to participate in the contest. Just make sure the member didn't enter the moment another member left so that the system thought he was the second member into chat and therefore not eligible to play at that moment. But if nobody else is around and he keep going in and out of a host's video session without success and the account was created on CC, then something is wrong and once again, contact CC.

I think you don't have all the details of how it works with affiliate sites which I describe above.

I will be the first to tell you that I don't have all the details on this issue. I am just going by what hosts tell me and making an educated guess. That is why I say things like "might".

Which is your post? If it is "oops and", I wasn't clear about what you were saying. That is why I responded in hopes of clarifying. But if I misunderstood, please let me know.

Thank you Host that explains it....when this happen last year ....cc did not explain it that way...so now it makes much more sense and I understand thank you .... :)

and thank you to Moonlit Knight...but as I said it was only one person...so others being in or out had nothing to do with it...and the problem is that they registered with cc using an affliliate site that is why we make less when it is an affliate site to begin with... :)

have a great weekend everyone :)

All the viewers on CamContacts can play the game regardless of if they have an affiliate referrer or not!

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Unquestionably there is a special appeal to many of the glamour hosts...keeping in mind several have identies in more adult categories as well. I am not going to get into a which category has the best girls but for me...glamour always yields the girl next door look I am looking form.

So who are they these 13 stars?

Sorry I meant 13 5 star girls, lol

And most don't use toys or other forms of entertainment that many guys think is necessary to be a good host or at least the ones that post here. There is a certain mystique about a host that takes care of herself and presents a glamourous appeal. It's not all about nudity and toys.

Forget the profile...they can be totally 180 degrees opposite of what the host does in video...you should ask...specifically...what she does and what you expect ...and get a yes...not a vague answer before you go in. Do that and you should not be disappointed unless you have erectile dysfunction...

You need to do a better job at legal research or you will be sued for malpractice. See my post below:


RE: Honest Question for all categories...but mostly for members and hosts in not so shy category . 09/Nov/2011 07:40 (GMT).

It is the 17th line of that thread and a response to "??". You can't just go by category descriptions. I show you the fine print in my post.

Well I never claimed to be a lawyer. And yes I know that is the unwritten rules you refer to. But going by cc guidelines, its easy to understand why there is often much confusion.

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"Unfortunately it has only become an issue with hosts twisting the rules for those categories over the last couple of months"

Actually its going on for years. And yes I think in many cases its the studio bosses that are at fault.

I have actually been here for over 2 years and I have never seen these issues written in forum before so I don't where you get your information but I suggest you look back!

I've been a member since 2000 and there have been many post in viewer forum over time and I have experienced these issues in many pvts I've gone into in NSS and IA.

Interesting. Thanks for the info.

I once told CC to make it more clear to hosts what the rules were instead of having them appear one time. Then they told me that they appear each time a host starts her session. I took that to mean each time a member enters video and basically responded if they are that obvious, then give a host one warning and ban her after that since she clearly is ignoring the rules on purpose. Then they made me think it wasn't quite as obvious so I guess they are a bit more hidden like you said.

What I proposed was that they make the rules pop up just like when it says "Restricted Session: Topless Only", for example, to stop all this nonsense. I also said to put them in all the major languages used here where the other rules are. Other than hosts having connection issues, telling me to go 121 in little shy for nudity is my number one complaint yet this issue has yet to be adequately addressed in my view.

It is interesting to learn that the rules are in fact available like you said. Still, I would make them even more obvious to stop the rule breakers. The rules should be right in their face so they have no more excuses.

i meant that i hate being told to go 121 in not so shy... not that i like it in little shy either... freudian typo lol

LOL ok then you'll understand my reply before reading this.

Your comment: telling me to go 121 in little shy for nudity is my number one complaint yet this issue has yet to be adequately addressed in my view.

Why would a shy host want to be nude in open for all viewers? I personally will not! It is my choice to get nude and I am a softcore host and the rules support that. If I chose nudity in open then that would be in NSS which I am not. If a man wants me to get nude and I agree to it ....it would only be with the two of us and not many viewers. So why does that bother you and where do you see that I am required to do nudity outside of a private with one member?

You stole my name! You are a thief!!!

Sure you're not a lawyer? :P