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you put your cock where? - in a wine bottle? :-o

for me personally ......

No ...it is up to the member if he wants to use his cam or not..and if he chooses to be nude...decides he does not want to be naked then that is also up to him....but it will make me wonder why he has changed his mind...so i will simply ask him why....as long as he is not doing something fishing then ....no i will not cancel what i agreed to do in chat..if he simply does not feel comfortable being nude then that is his choice....

cc rules say that we are not permitted to ask a member to turn on his cam....I do not require a member to use his cam in order for me to be nude....

but then that is me...I can not speak for all hosts...

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Do you know when a member connects from a mobile phone?

Yes it tells us when it is a mobile connection and if there are restrictions it will tell us that too....

Sounds like you are in hardcore which is very reasonable that a member can do or not do what he agreed on his part and yet yes a host should get nude without his cam or any special arrangements. She shouldn't even be asking him to be nude in order for her to provide nudity....lol...who is the paying customer anyway!!

Hosts do you ever honor the things you agree to in free chat?

Yes...if I agree to do something in chat, then I will do it in video...not all hosts will say they will do something in chat and then not follow through once in video....

I would never expect a guest to get nude to negotiate me getting nude in video. That actually sounds like an isolated incident if that was the condition of her performing nudity. If you are talking about IA or NSS then that is ridiculous to have to negotiate that ahead of time. In softcore it sounds more like a host that thinks the viewer will back out and so she can.
Any good honest host will perform what she agrees to in chat. If she does not that is in violation of CC rules and I suggest you report her. If possible copy text in chat ahead or print screen so that you can follow up if she doesn't. I think it is sad that there are some girls on here that would scam that way to get viewers in video. Report them and rate them accordingly to warn others from also experiencing the same!

no matter what category...if a host says she will do something then she should do it....a member is not required to be nude or use his cam....and yes sounds like the host is using the his not being nude as a way to not do what she agreed to do...

the member is paying the host to do what she agreed to do...so he has the right to expect what was agreed upon...

there are times that a host will agree to something and then in video the member will change it and try to get her to more than she agreed to do....

it makes it very difficult for hosts that do as they agreed to do when other hosts makes promises and not complete the promise...as then members think we are all that way...

We hosts have and are trying so hard to get members to say what they are wanting from a video before hand to prevent such problems and members being disappointed and having to make such posts...so when such hosts turn around and don't honour things they agree to do then members are going to stop saying what they want when in free chat.....

I asked 2 hosts in Little Shy earlier today if they stripped in pvt when I was in free chat. I did not get a reply in both cases, so I went into open and vid and asked the same question. One told me she did not strip. The other said it depends on me. Bot hosts offered Strip Hi Lo.

that makes no sense at all....I am not jumping on you "member" at all...simply asking...

It is great that you asked in free chat first to confirm...but did you read the profile to see if the two hosts said anything about getting nude?

Unless the host was not able to answer right away for some reason....I would think that not getting a reply would be a big indication that she might not do it or that there might be a catch to it...

So if they did not answer you in free chat....why would you go to video anyway to ask the same thing?

That is one heck of a big contradiction for the host that said no she does not strip in pvt, but then offers strip hi lo...if she not get nude then what is she doing offering strip hi lo and what is she going to do in strip hi lo where she is obligated to get nude..

with hosts like this no wonder other hosts have such a hard time with pissed off members and no wonder members get confused, frustrated and pissed off .....

As noted both were in Little shy

1. Did you read the profiles to see if there was any mention of nudity?

2. If you not get response in free chat why you go to the video still?

Yes I always read profiles. And no there was no mention of nudity, but much of the time if they have a Strip Hi Lo icon they do get naked. I'm used to getting no response in free chat not only here but on all cam sites. Girls hate free loaders.

yes you did note that...I can be blind at times...if it had teeth it would have bit me....lol...my mistake member I apologize..

sorry to hear you had to run into two difficult hosts .....please remember that we are not all that way....

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Do require the member to go 121 in softcore to get a show?

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That ticks me off when you say that because you disregard all other hosts in softcore and confuse members as to what the difference is.

It will depend on the host. For example, I've had hosts with a lil shy and not so shy account strip in open for both lil shy and not so shy, and I've also had hosts with a lil shy and not so shy account tell me only 121 for the lil shy account but strip in open with the not so shy account.

I try to see if a host has two sessions and just pick the cheapest option for a show in these types of situations except when soft core 121 is required for a show and the hard core open price is close to it. In such a case, I might pay a little more to get the host to myself and go soft core 121. Just be careful since some hosts with lil shy and not so shy accounts, for example, will pull the only 121 stuff for the not so shy account too which they're not allowed to do.

You may also run into hosts that think that the rules for restricted sessions always apply and tell you that they cannot do certain things depending upon the category even if you are in a nonrestricted session. That means it is possible that hosts with sessions in different categories might only do certain types of shows because they think that other types of shows are not allowed even if the prices are the same in both categories. This doesn't seem to happen much but it can.

But rarely will a host be only willing to do certain things in one category but not others for any other reason. She might say only 121, but usually hosts will do the same thing in all sessions.

Lots of hosts have lil shy and not so shy accounts so be alert. You can save yourself some money when you want a show. Of course, you will also run into a number of rule breakers too that love to say only 121 in hard core.

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The only way to give a good answer would for me to see you as a brunette and then as a redhead to compare. And if you are a host that strips you are not going to find many viewers that notice your hair color.

redheads are a real turn on for me ;)

Redheads -- real redheads or at least red hair that looks like real red hair -- is a turn on to me too. Not the washed out strawberry blonde type redhead, but the flaming red to auburn type redheads.

Oh, with green eyes.

And light freckles

long thick hair

ummm

I'll be back later, I need to get a cold shower.

Hair color is extremely important to me, whether she strips or not. I could easily be turned off by a favorite host and stop seeing her if the change puts me off.

By the way, cutting her long hair would be an even more automatic turn off.

Yes i strip.Not So Shy cat here :D Thanks all!

Changing hair color is not that much of an issue for me. Unless it is some strange, unnatural color (I hate green, purple, pink hair -- i like natural or natural looking colors.)

But i know women like to change their hair color, and I've seen some for whom the change is really nice, and some on whom it just doesn't look right.

I agree. I never knew mental patients had internet access until I started reading these forums.

YOUR in the F O R U M ! lol

I never said that. I don't know who EveningDesire is. Do you?

what about

Fierce
Opinions
Raising
Uncontrollable
Mess?

So nice that you contribute to the FORUMS as well...LOL

I never deny it.

Denied what?

Like I said, I like eggs on my spaghetti

Hail, O unstable one!

LOL.....OK :)

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oh my:))))))))))

Family, friends, laughter, my health isn't too bad and the place I live.

I am thankful for, patience, love, understanding, sacrifice, friendship, laughing, crying and tenderness all in the person I love so that it has enabled me to be the person I am now, and with her ever giving heart know we will grow together for our future for always together..

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As we live in a chaotic and sometime's cruel world, we do tend to forget thing's that we take for granted, and to be thankful for. Even on our worst day's we can find something to be thankful for. For me friend's and famliy top the list of several that I could mention. As far as this past year, I am thankful for the challenges that have come my way. Whether I succeed or fail, it has been a learning experiance, and has made me a stronger person in many way's.

Freshstrt... I am grateful for the chance to make a new life, new friends and new chances of happiness...

Defender... I am thankful for past times that have taught me to be patient in times present so that I can enjoy future times...

Wiseone... I am thankful of new starts and close friends that show love and affection as a natural way and not after being asked...

Teacherofthearts... I am thankful of second chances, of things that are not known to us but help and guide us...

Women can travel alone there. There is a lot of demand for the so called escort services there and many russian women sort of satisfy it lol

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not just russian, also a lot of british, american, asian and arabic and many many others from all over the world;)

i am a businessman in dubai and meet with camgirls and escorts here. you need an easy to get tourist visa. hotel, airlines and so on all can help you with this and they also can look into the needed insurance. technically it is illegal if you work as an escort here with a tourist visa. so be careful! other possibilities also exist but it is complicated so you should go to the amer page or call their hotline for more information.
there are lots of rich men here and you can earn a lot of money here with that but keep it professional and act like a normal tourist.
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you are right. that is what i meant. if she wants to meet a good trustworthy regular from here for some extra income she should be careful and keep it private and professional pretending to be just a normal tourist having fun without earning money.

and speaking of i would also be interested for some nice fresh company!
i hope to be of help
jarle

I read the initial post twice and I still don't see anything about her intention to become a prostitute there. Reading between the lines must be fun ;)

maybe the first answer to the post or me thinking of a camgirl travelling alone misguided the topic. i also work in dubai and so i am not just here for sex alone. i really just wanted to help from my experience here with visa first not so much with escorts since i do not even know who curious is.
but i am a nice but busy guy. i usually want to spend a nice evening with some wine and a dinner first. even with an escort. and this is exactly what i wanted to suggest to make it seem unsuspicious in this case. no relationship possible with a camgirl or escort so no emotions involved and professional polite distance between customer and escort but i still want to make her feel ok with what she is offering. i do the same here online on camcontacts for the girls selling themselves. the least i can do is make them feel ok and not abused with being polite.
i just wanted to help and i still suggest the amer service page of dubai for further clarifications. but i also apologize for any misunderstandings.
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That doesn't seem appropriate for anyone to judge him when he is being very honest and open! Who would you be to judge? Obviously it is working for him Mom or Dad ;)

i am so tired of this. since i travel a lot and i am a lot in dubai i just wanted to help.
but if all you can do is being sarcastic and destructively making fun of people when i want to be nice and helpful i might as well just stop writing here to save my energy and mood.

goodbye and thanks to all the good people who make this forum fun to read!

jarle

Why else would she be so conserned and have to ask here if that wasn't the fear? Where else would you worry that a single woman traveling alone would be thought to be for that reason? The post pretty well explained the intention. It's not the first time that it has appeared for Dubai here either but usually asking from a male how he can get her there for that intention....

Although I spend a lot of money here on camcontacts, so far I have not met many girls from here in real... So I want to meet her too! Dubai is too expensive for me. But for some fun I would spare a few dollars and if she is worth it maybe even some more for tipping...

I LOVE ALL YOU GIRLS HERE ON CAMCONTACTS! YOU ARE GREAT!! THANK YOU!!!

Wonder if hosts have many condoms " for tourist guys" in their purse? lol

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do you belive that all women who like to travel are prostitutes?so funny...

I live in Dubai..American expatriot working here...
Many single women from Eastern European nations visit here as tourists. Forget the notion that they are all here as prostitutes. There is plenty of it, but unsuspecting women women are not being kidnapped at the airport and taken away. I know several women living and working here who I met on CC. We have become great friends. They have good jobs and are enjoying theeir lives here.

If a single women with no property,no kids, not a lot of money, no business, etc etc wants to to come here as a tourist, the easiest way is to to use a travel agent who will find a good deal with airline and hotel and arranges the visa (usually a 30 day tourist visa) . Some women have had success contacting Emirates Airlines directly and asking for assistance in getting a short stay visa (less than one week). Tourist agency friends explain that the tourist industry have obvious interest in getting these visas. So the agencies, airlines, hotels and the UAE do their best to grant these visas. If anyone wants more information, please write me at CC mail.

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I don't know the answer. I'll ask my travel agent and other friends and get back to you as soon as I can. Either watch here or send me your contact at my CC maail address. Congratulations and good luck!

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I do not use my name to post as I do not want to be accused of trying to drum up business for ourselves...

and where is your viewers's name???

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Well that's a new approach. Talk about reading books in paid videochat. Well I have to give you softcore girls credit for being innovative.

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My all time favorite book is "The Scourge of the Illuminati " by Ron Paul.

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a book from childhood that i'll never forget is the otterbury incident,from high school it's catch 22 & since was operation barbarossa :--)

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Hi "T", I love to recommend books that I have enjoyed reading; books that have moved me, made me think or laugh, made me change my ideas about a time or a place, or educated me. Here are some recently read books that for one reason or another, have made an impact on me. I wish I knew who you are, so I could discuss more about why they are good, and to lean more of your favourites.
Joseph Roth- The Radetzky March
Hans Fallada- Alone in Berlin
Colin Thubron- To a Mountain in Tibet
Lydia Chukovskaya- Sofia Petrovna
Gustaf Sobin- The Fly-Truffler
William Blacker- Along the Enchanted Way
Anne Michaels- Fugitive Pieces
Robert Musil- The Man Without Qualities

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Then it's just as well I always tell people that " as I'm mentally retarded I do not read" :P

Two books from my school years that stick in my mind are The catcher in the Rye and Watership Down. I also like all James Herbert's horror novels.

I have just finished reading one of Dan Brown's novels. The first book I have read in a few years. But hopefully it will encourage me to start reading again as, when I was younger, I read books all the time.

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Thank you :)
I was tempted to read The Host, so it's good to get a good opinion about it :)

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I read a ton of books and there's three used bookstores within a five minute walk of my house so I am always adding to my collection.
Lately I've picked up:
do Anroids Dream of Electric Sheep?, The Man Who Japed, and The Simulacra by Philip K. Dick
Already Dead, and Tree of Smoke by Denis Johnson
Choke by Chuck Pahluniak
Labyrinths by Jorge Luis Borges
the Books of Blood series by Clive Barker
Beyond Good and Evil by Friedrich Nietzsche
Siren Promised by Jeremy Robert Johnson and Alan Clark
King Scratch by Jordan Krall
Songs For The Missing by Stewar O'Nan

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Philip K. Dick....I had a period when I was in college I read everything by him I could find. "A Scanner Darkly" was my favorite, even though it made me so sad...

Clive Barker.... I read a book by him called Weaveworld many years ago and I loved it so much...and every single book by him I tried later was a disappointment!

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mine are all blue for some reason

lol ally. That was also my first thought.

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Perhaps I should get you a Kindle Fire for Christmas? Then at least you could carry your 50 unread books around with you. Hehe.. :)

Let me know if the idea appeals to you. ;)

TNT

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Fighting Terrorism: How Democracies Can Defeat Domestic and International Terrorists by Benjamin Netanyahu.

The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky.

Across China by Peter Jenkins

A Heart for Freedom by Chai Ling founder of All Girls Allowed.

The Forgotten Man: A New History of the Great Depression By Amity Shlaes.

Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg.

Eternal Iran by Michael Rubin.

Your Teacher Said What?! by Joe and Blake Kernen.

In My Time by Dick Cheney.

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is that list from the tea party book club ?.

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So forum poster "wow" - are you assuming a position of censership and suppression of speech or other public communication?
or are you just a book burner?

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I read the Little Prince long ago but I do remember it well. Good book. It did make a good impact on me.

Here are some others that I have enjoyed. I suspect you will get more books from this string than you can read, but it will give you lots to chose from.

Pillars of the Earth. Really gives you a feel for life long ago in England.

Geek Squad. Kind of a weird book, but well written. About a circus family. The father gives his wife toxins so she will give birth to circus freaks. I know that sound horrible but it is an interesting and amusing fiction.

The Shipping News. Starts slow but finishes excellent. Also a movie with Kevin Spacey. Won lots of awards.

I have to say since computers came out I read much less than I used to. Perhaps I should spend less time hanging around CC!

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If you enjoyed Pillars of the Earth you may like the sequel World Without End. Talks about when the plague hit England. Just as good a book as the first one.

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I have somewhere in the neighborhood of 2000 books (and not enough book cases for them), but my favorites are:
Centennial - James Michener
The Once and Future King - T.H. White

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the last book ive read was Anna Karenina by Lev Tolstoy and i liked it a lot...:) Now i want to start Jane Eyre :)

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Ease yourself into Russian literature with Chekhov's short stories, and then perhaps a little Gogol and Pushkin, before tackling Dostoevsky again, or you might find it all too bleak and humourless. But I speak as a reader in the West and a native Russian might have alternative suggestions. Unless you like poetry, you could also try the prose writings of Tsvetaeva and Mandelstam, like the latter's Journey to Armenia.

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You gave your better half a book about a pedophile?

Precisely.

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Nice... T, I would like to meet you. English is not your first language? Just curious.

I don't think these writers have been mentioned,
Ann Patchett Bel Canto... a heartbreaking, amazing story. The ending will haunt you.

E. Annie Proulx I'd recommend several, beginning with the Shipping News. She wrote the short story that became the movie Brokeback Mountain.

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I am a Stephen King nut....Misery, Thinner, bachman books, Talisman, Pet Cemetery, Dark Towers....he has many books...

Happy reading....

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Solzhenitsyn..when I was a student I read all three volumes of the Gulag Archipelago in a week, I just couldn't put it down. The anger and passion with which he describes all these horrible things... Later I tried reading August 1914 but I couldn't get through it for some reason..

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Anything that makes me smile, or think. And history! And "game of thrones". And "Perfume".
Not much of a pattern, sorry!

Read already Perfume :) Loved it to bits.
I'll write the other one down.

( your name made my heart skip a beat; we might know each other :) )

well, drop me a line at CCmail! Now I'm intrigued....

Wasn't "Perfume" wonderful? Have you seen the movie?

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A book that made me smile and cry and think:
Foucault's Pendulum, by Umberto Eco.

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I think over the years some members have made some great suggestions in terms of site usability. There are a few things I would like to see added or changed but clearly this site is the best of its kind. Perfect....nothing is perfect but it very close to it.

apart from the members, it's perfect

Amen, we viewers are a motley bunch

i disagree... cc is perfect site for hosts, but as a viewer who knows what i want and where to search, i never look for new girls in cc, i come here only for some girls that i have met in other place with better sevices, for example i prefer the possibility to see the girl first before entering paid chat.

"i prefer the possibility to see the girl first before entering paid chat."

Me too!

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i saw that on fb

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copy & paste . try something origional !

give the guy a break, ain't nothing original in this world

except pff's funloving,jovial,unique personality :--)

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He gets more action than me :(

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I think the opposite as more and more memberc come in vid and start with *I'm horny bb, get naked* :-(

I think the number of soft core hosts in Glamour and Little Shy is limited. A host will do whatever it takes to make money. That is her purpose here. Market forces drive this site. If a host is doing fine not stripping she will continue doing what she is doing...being shy...but most hosts do some level of sexual activity. If some softcore hosts thing that a ban on hardcore nudity would somehow deliver additional customers to them...they are fooling themselves. Members would go elsewhere and the hosts would be back working in the borscht factory.

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"borscht factory" :))

I think you and the original poster are too sensitive maybe. There has certainly been no indication of any of your claims. Maybe you have too much time to think and want to make it into a conspiracy theory.. wow wouldn't that make it exciting.....
It's seems very clear to me that this site has something for every taste and if all the categories and huge selection isn't enough for your tastes then instead of making ridiculous claims about others why don't you analyze your own motives for writing such things.

I think...

(1) you are obsessed with not being able to understand why not everyone shares your viewpoint,

(2) you are obsessed with trying to make everyone be like you

(3) you are obsessed with the fact that there is more than hardcore instant action here, and you can't understand it and so you post incessantly about it like a broken record over and over again, and are probably the originator of the vast majority of posts over the last year concerning it.

(4) your obsession has clouded your ability to see clearly. No one is wanting this to be an all-softcore site. But not everyone wants hardcore all the time, even in the hardcore category.

That's what I think. And I think you are tiresome.

You state the same thing in all your post: "I know it all."I think you are tiresome too....

Well said. In my opinion he/she is Tiresome with a capital T

I never claim to "know it all". I know a lot, but so does everyone else here on this site. I state what I believe, as well as what I know. Sometimes what I state are my opinions, which, of course, I believe are right, or else I would not hold them.

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"Y" stated: "You state the same thing in all your post: "I know it all."

Nope, he is not correct. Only in my posts to you do I state the same thing.

that you are entitled to your opinion, but I also think that you maybe have run into some softcore hosts that you wanted them to do things for you but they said no....and or that you may have run into some hardcore hosts that said no to what you wanted them to do....

that is what I think...but my thinking could be very wrong...

No actually I was speaking of members who post they do not come here to see naked girls. The come here to chat, even in IA, in open video. I've also seen some very hostile posts by hosts directed at IA and viewers that prefer IA over softcore. I've seen very hostile and judgmental posts by both members and hosts toward members that enjoy IA.

And again all I am saying is that in my opinion, there are forces on this site that would be very happy to see IA and NSS go away. I have no issue with members that prefer to chat in any category they choose. Its their money, but it seems there are some other members and hosts who would like to decide for the rest of us what we can see on cc.

I was not having a go at you, I was thinking out loud and as I said I could have been very wrong. and seems I was, for which I apologize.

As far as I am concerned does not seem to matter what is posted there is always hostile responses, even to those who simply ask for help get unwanted hostile responses....members being hostile to hosts and each other and even hosts being hostile to each other. I would have thought that hosts would be more understanding and helpful to each other, but there are few hosts that post on here as well as in chat host forum that are willing to help another host instead of saying figure it out for yourself, or if you cant handle it the get another job. and other uncalled for responses..

From what I see and hear as a host, more hardcore is wanted, but I say that because how members speak when in the text or video.

The bottom line is that not all will be happy no matter what ...the site, and hosts can bend over backwards and turn their bodies into pretzels with half the body doing hardcore and half the body doing softcore and there will still be hostility and complaints.

I am not a fan of instant action category, but I do admire the females on there that are able to just automatically do what they do as I am sure it is not easy to be in that category, it was not easy being in not so shy, and it is not so easy dealing with members who want instant hardcore in the shy category.

I wonder if the time will come when there is posts made that do not meet such hostile responses.

I agree with you. Members and hosts are attacked by other hosts and members for almost anything they post no matter the subject. And there seems to be no shortage of people that like to tell others what to do and what they should like.

And yes there appears to be some very unhappy people posting in this forum. It seems stress is getting the best of them.

I cannot remember any post hostile to members who prefer IA to softcore or towards IA hosts. Most posts, especially from hosts, are resepectful to hosts and members's freedom of choice. Just because a poster disagrees with another post does not mean they are hostile.

I do not understand how you reach this conclusion. Firstly what is posted in the forums is not sound basis since inly a snall proportion of members and hosts post here. In fact from what is posted here it is just as easy to conclude that there are a lot of members who would like to drop the non-adult and softcore categories completely and have all hosts obliged to strip.What is an undeniable fact is that the number of hosts online in Not Shy and IA is alsways far higher than the number in glamour and little shy. What makes CC different form other sites is the range of choice it offers. Both to viewers over what they want in video and for hosts over what they have to do. What I do not like is a trend in recent posts saying that any member who enters a Not Shy or IA host's video should ask her for a show and is in some way being unfair to other members if he does not and just chats for a while.

And just how do you know how many members and hosts post here? The number of girls in any category can be misleading since most girls are in multiple categories. Only cc knows where the most money is being spent. I was going by the posts I've read. I have no way of knowing who posted or how many different hosts posted, nor do you.

But yes you are right when you say there are posters who would like to get rid of non adult and softcore. For the record I do not favor that. But I do not see cc changing any categories or dropping any. In fact, I don't expect anything to change. But in my opinion there are members and hosts who would like to tell us all what we should see and how we should act. I think everyone should make up their own mind on what they want to see and how they spend their money.

It is not difficult to work out that the number of hosts and members posting here is a small percentage of the total., probably less than 10% and certainly less than 20%. I tried to post more details of my calculation but it was blocjked.

dam u did start a firestorm now!

what do pet peeves mean?

A pet peeve (or pet hate) is a minor annoyance that an individual identifies as particularly annoying to him or her, to a greater degree than others may find it.

Pet peeves often involve specific behaviors of someone close, such as a spouse or significant other.[3] These behaviors may involve disrespect, manners, personal hygiene, relationships, and family issues.[4]

A key aspect of a pet peeve is that it may well seem acceptable to others. For example, a supervisor may have a pet peeve about people leaving the lid on the copier up and react angrily, be annoyed when others interrupt when speaking, or by messy desks of his or her subordinates.[5] That same supervisor may witness employees coming into work late, and not feel any annoyance whatsoever.

More a flickering candle than a firestorm!

when member not say thank you or bye and just leaves video.

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when members think that talking to us like we are hookers that is a turn on...

but I thought all of you were hookers!

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pressuring to meet for sex in person when member is married or has a gf.

"pressuring to meet for sex in person when member is married or has a gf."

And if he were single it is ok to be pressured in to real world sex?

no it is not ok to be pressured at any time, my mistake, for not saying that in a better way.

altho it is also a pet peeve, it does not surprise me that single members would be asking to meet in person and yes they too do pressure for that. it just more surprising that members who are not single would pressure so much for it. but then when you go to the bar men that are not single will try and pick up a female for sex, but then to be fair there are also females that pick up men even tho they have someone at home too. and then there are females that just do not care if one is in a relationship and go after a non-single person just to show that they are able to do it.

I probably said this wrong too..maybe I should just put a sock in it and keep me trap shut lol

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trying to seduce in text when others are saying things that take away the seduction

Of course. Chatting for long periods of time in paid video is what sottcore and some so called hardcore hosts do best.

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if you see glamour or little shy host with semi nude or nude photos in her photo archive, it usually mean you wont get her nude in paid video.
glamour or little shy hosts who will get nude in paid video dont need to put nude photos in archive to get viewers entering their video.

I have only some topless pics, sometimes I hide them though. But I do full strip.

Archive Pics usually dont tell anything in CC if the host is in Glamour or little shy. I have seen semi-nude pics in little shy then I had entered video expecting to see the same, however the host said: Those are only pics, but I dont strip. Then I asked: Aren't you the girl in the pics or is it a Photoshop thing? She said: Thats me in the pics, but I dont strip in vid. Huh? She is the one in the semi-nude pics, but she says she doesnt strip in vid? I can't figure that one out. And you find one of these every once in a while....

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And what do you do in "your show"? That sounds very vague.

no topless??? i see boobies , hehe

i like to do nude pics.coz i consider my body like an art :) its like a tease... im softcore host.. but if u treat me right u will get what u see in pics ;)

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I believe that the profile pic and the most recent archive pics must be a reflection of what a host offers in video under CC's rules. So, for example, a host that is naked in one of those pics, would need to offer nudity.

What exactly "most recent" means is not clear. It could mean the last pics taken or perhaps it means the last few sets of pics. Also, I doubt a host would get in much trouble for violating this rule unless she was a repeat offender. The member would get a credit if he complained and the host would just get a note from CC saying don't have nude profile and recent archive pics if you don't offer nudity.

I do know that there are hosts with nude pics or topless pics that won't get naked or topless in video. But I have not ever noticed one whose "most recent" archive pic or profile pic showed nudity that refused to actually get naked.

As for looking at the pics to judge what you will get in a show, I do that, but for soft core, I still might confirm with the host in text chat that she will appear naked, for example, just as she does in her archive pics. Or, if the price is low, I might just enter open and ask her. Of course, either way, there is a 50-50 chance of hearing yes, but only 121, lol.

Finally,as to whether or not I will visit a host, the profile pic is the most important thing in my view. Without a good profile pic, I will skip right over a host. From there I check the archives pics and price to make sure I think she is worth what she charges so archive pics definitely are important too.

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I think if a host puts nude pics or topless in her pics then that is advertising that she does that much. Her pics are part of her profile and you might need to take her 121 to see nudity because she is considered a shy host being in softcore but I think CC would see that as part of advertising that she does nudity. If she refused then I would write CC and tell them. Always be a gentleman but yes I think it is fair to expect that since she put them there :))

I believe the photos in the archives should be representative of the kind of show the member can expect. Photos should indicate the minimum that one can expect from a host's show.

If nude photos are there, it should be an idicator that the host is willing to get nude for the viewer.

However, the absence of such photos does not necessarily mean she won't get naked.

I think the hosts that prefer not to show nude photos do so for good reasons. For one reason, it is too easy to copy and spread those pictures around, and for a second reason, as we know, nude photos can come back to haunt the one who posed for them.

If I was a host, I would not want my kids coming to me with photos in hand, and saying, "Is this you, Daddy?"

THATS why the iphone 5 wasn't talked about, it all makes sense now!!!

He was an inovative man who pushed the boundaries against his competiton, let's hope his vision doesn't end and his "understudies" continue what he wanted

R.I.P Mr Jobs

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steve jobs co founder of apple

A true Genius left us....

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"Your time is limited, so don’t waste it living someone else’s life. Don’t be trapped by dogma — which is living with the results of other people’s thinking. Don’t let the noise of others’ opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary."

`` Steve Jobs, Stanford Univ. Commencement, 2005

iconic he revolutionised the way we interact with music, vid and each other.

You forgot don't drink like a fish or it will ruin your liver!

R.I.P.

Jobs was a true genius.

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He invented the personal computer.

hey BC, have you read anything about the guy?

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and the mouse. I wouldn't had never used a pc without a mouse.

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Its hard to believe the man is gone. I like to think they may implant a chip in Steve to bring him back to life.

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He asked what category you are in and can we assume that is IA since there has been so much conversation about it lately?

Open is just that Open to many viewers at one time. It is sometimes difficult to please all but it was intended for you to master so that you can make more money. Some viewers like it and come in when others are there to avoid much chat but entertainment even if it is limited as in softcore. They want to see what they would pay for if they went to 121. There is no way that it was intended to just sit and chat with one person when there are many in the room. Learn to master the art of enteraining many at one time. Otherwise you lose a lot of money and viewers.

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I cant say mistake cos is not, its about not having enough informations.
Most of them comes when I am in other show (not 121) and expect full attention. My full attention will always go to my first camed and I will always tell them nice that I am in other show and if they want can stay til I finish the show or come back later. Some are pissed off by this.

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Usually when someone comes into my video and leaves in a short time. I will block them from future visits because I look just like my pics and I wonder what their intentions are. The exception to that is if they come back to video or chat and explain that they had technical problems.
When I've already told them that I don't do nudity in chat and they come into video insisting on it.
When a repeat member always comes into open and then wants exclusivity when other members come in. If you want a private video then come into my 121 because I keep the price low to encourage that.
The ones that do not say goodbye when they leave video. I always am respectful and after a lenghty video where I am meeting your requests, a simple goodbye would be appropriate.
The ones that are rude or pushy making short sentences of demands rather than talking with me like I am a person.
That's the biggest problems that I can think of and I am in Glamor.

no mistakes ever, never.

Just show me the money.

You came to the right place then! :o)

Yes, if I was a woman.

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That is why he answered that way....lol

I have dated women who will not kiss or suck it and I am fine with that. I am such a big hearted guy I will even give them oral if they wish. Not looking at or not touching it are a little wierd. It is the primary sex organ of the man and having a woman fondle or stroke it is a major turnout. It is like a woman saying...please don't touch my breasts, clitoris or vagina. Kind of heart to keep a relationship going with those restriction. Finally, in any relation each partner has to give and take a little. Touching a clean penis (and I also dated women who insisted we both shower before sex) shouldn't be so gross to you. Of course working here a hard penis mind always remind you of work and that is why you hate looking at it.

lol I wasn't talking about myself really, it could be too much historicity from me as I work here. I find nothing bad in men's naked body and dick...well, kissing and sucking it with only my loving man of course. But I just met a girl who thinks so....and decided to ask you what you men, think about it.

sorry mean "hypocrite"

I think that woman is a lesbian, so no, lol. Of course, I wouldn't want to look at other guys' cocks and touch them, et cetera so maybe I am a lesbian too.

Seriously, if she isn't even willing to look at it or touch it, she has some type of issue such as she was raised in an ultra-religious family that told her sex was bad, was sexually assaulted as a child, has problems with intimacy, or whatever. I'm not a psychologist and don't know this woman, but something seems wrong with her.

If she just didn't want to give oral, that would disappoint me, but it wouldn't be the end of the world. Besides insertion, some women can be really good with their hands too. But this girl isn't even willing to touch it so using her hands is out, and I'm guessing that she probably would close her eyes and just lay there.

I would tell her to go see a professional and discuss her feelings with him. But make sure she chooses a good one and not some psycho that would use her situation as a way to take advantage of her and "cure" her by getting her to touch him. In fact, tell her to see a woman psychologist for something like this. Some therapists are the_rapists so she needs to be careful.

i think if you work here daily and have to look at viewers and motivate them when they beat off you can lose a lot of your libido since it is a daily work thing and nothing special anymore. then it is hard to 'lower the protection' in your mind when you are 'off duty' and not working. you are used to pleasure more or less strangers without emotions and therefore you cannot get into it easily anymore. could this be the explanation for some? of course not for everyone.
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Well she could be selfish too. Sign her up for CC and tell her to put her profile in dungeon. But seriously, to not even want to look at or touch a penis? She seems to have issues of some type.

lol Its came to my mind too, I said to her she might be a dominant woman, but she said she doesn't like weak or sissy men. I gave advice to go to the doc but she refused said she doesn't think its a problem, that she just doesnt like oral sex as it a big humilation for her opinion. As she said: " Men dont need oral sex to get orgasm, but some women cant get orgasm by any other way then oral sex." For me it sound unfair and very selfish.

How would we know if she does that before developing the relationship? If i'm far enough into a relationship to know if she likes to suck cock or not, i think i'm already in it. So the question is would I break up with someone for not giving me oral sex. No, that's just silly. That would rate about the last thing that matters to me when thinking about staying with someone.

A couple that sucks together, stays together.

well, so you gonna marry the woman knowing that she never gonna gives you oral sex pleasure? Maybe you dont like oral sex at all?

how could one who finds a penis disgusting and whatnot enjoy sex at all? its one thing to not like blowjobs but touching and looking at it? perhaps she was just winding you up?
but to answer ur question, i wouldnt want to be with someone limited like that she sounds as fun as a hearse

I dated a host with the same attitude. I loved her and hated it, but i knew about her psychological issues so i never used to complain. Imho there is no way a relationship can work without happy sex and oral is important.

I think that it is kind of you to show her what opinions of men at CC forum say but don't you think in life she will figure this out on her own?

If she is one that is saving sex until marriage then I think that it would come up in the conversation before hand or at least I would hope so but then again maybe that is why they created annulments

If she is still young and was in a relationship with a young guy it might not be an issue but eventually I think it would be a factor in him possibly looking other places. I agree that there is something wrong with her thinking and she needs professional help. There is much more to a couple enjoying an intimate sensual sexual experience than just the missionary position and her receiving oral. I am sure that she wouldn't consider other options so sounds pretty uneventful to me.

No, she is not a virgin, shy or religion, she likes sex and even watch porno (said herself). But she excepts oral sex at all. And this issue get place because of her failed last relationship, because of boring sex for her ex-bf. I was wonder why is it was boring and she said that she admit only traditional sex. So I decided to ask if it really a serious problem for men or they can live with it.

"So I decided to ask if it really a serious problem for men or they can live with it."

We priests can live without it

not wanting to suck it is one thing....but why be with a man if you don't like to look at, touch it or kiss it....if he is suppose to be your man than you should be willing to admire and enjoy all of his body.

Does not seem fair that she would want him to be pleasuring her, when she is not even willing to pleasure him even in the simplest ways...

when I say you...I not mean the original post, I mean a female in general...

A mule will labor ten years willingly and patiently for you, for the privilege of kicking you once.
William Faulkner

Since you are not getting any response I might suggest that you post in technical forum instead. Good Luck!

well, if u jump into other peoples videos then u have no right to be pissed off if the host is doing what her primary viewer wants, no matter what the category! If you want a host to be committed to the rules then get you own video, dont hijack others.

I disagree 100%. The rules come first, and I guaranty CC agrees with that since they made the rules. It isn't about hijacking other's video. It is about a member going into hard core where a show is required and getting what he is paying for regardless of who got there first.

If a member wants priority, he should go 121 or ask for a password. And if the host doesn't want to deal with more than one member, she should tell her visitors to go 121 or give them a password.

Where did this idea come from that open is just a discounted 121 where nobody else but the first member matters? That isn't what open is. In life, sometimes first come, first served applies, but this is not one of those situations.

There are rules regarding what a host must do in certain categories and there are rules against being rude. Hosts need to follow these rules. And members, especially the first one, need to respect these rules and stop using open as a discounted 121. Spend the extra money or accept that the host's first obligation is to the rules and not to the first guy into video.

For my part, I rather avoid problems so I almost always try to be the first guy into video if going into open. But there is nothing wrong with the second, third, fourth viewer entering open and talking to the host and asking for a show if one is required. That is what open is for. If a guy wants to enter open and just chat in hard core, he is taking his chances that nobody else will enter, and so is the host if she doesn't offer a password or suggest that he goes 121. There is no first come, first served rule. That is why CC has passwords and 121.

Any member that disagrees simply is looking for a discount by going open instead of 121 or doesn't want to be bothered asking for a password. Any host that disagrees is not respecting the rules under which she is working. I can understand it can be annoying to enter video, ask for a password, and leave, but that is what needs to happen, or the member should go 121. Otherwise, the first member and the host assume the risk of someone else entering video, and once that happens the host MUST follow the rules and strip if required and not be rude by ignoring people.

I challenge any of you to produce an email from CC that says anything to the contrary. It may be a better idea to avoid situations like this so that is what I personally do, but unless a guy is being annoying and doing things like typing publicly instead of privately about how horny he is, et cetera, I see nothing wrong with guys entering video after I do. I obviously rather that they wait, but I have no right to expect that they will and neither does anybody else.

Stop being lazy, cheap or both and use passwords or 121. That is the correct way to handle situations such as being discussed here.

First of all.....as has been posted in the forums soooooooooooo many times ......there are many members that get pissed off when a host asks for one to one...

Second....I wonder how Moonlit Knight would feel if either by mistake or intentionally enters an open session and then another member comes in and the host does as he says and then goes to the other new member who wants something completely different?

Third....according to what some of you are saying a host in the open session is to do what everyone who enters the video wants...well how in the world can u possibly expect a host to be in an open session and say three people show up, and all want something different...for example...

one wants her to strip completely...the second says keep your clothes on and only remove your panty...and the third says to just pose on your hands and knees nude...

So now I ask those of you that say all in the open session are paying and should get what they want...so now I ask those same people...what does the host? it is very obvious that she can to do all three requests at the same time....now can she?

First, members don't like being told to go 121 for nudity by hard core hosts since it is against the rules. And they don't like being told to go 121 by soft core hosts since it costs more. But these are not the issues here. The issue here is the member being told to go 121 for exclusivity. My response if he doesn't like it: too bad. You are in open so deal with it.

Second, if I am in open and other members are not being obnoxious and typing publicly about how hard they are, et cetera, I have no objection. I rather have the host all to myself so there is no delay in her typing to me and so she does what I want, but if I am not willing to pay for 121, my response to myself: too bad.

Third, a host can give priority to requests. She just can't ignore people. But...

Fourth, if a request is made for nudity in hard core, the host MUST give that request priority. I suppose there could be issues as to a host wearing a certain outfit which reveals all of the key areas versus being completely naked, but I imagine that CC would say it is sufficient that the hosts private areas were all exposed. Maybe they would give a credit, maybe they wouldn't, but I doubt the host would get in trouble, and I have yet to see anyone post about such a situation. But if one guy wants bra covering breasts with no panties and another guy wants breasts showing too, that is not complete nudity under any definition.

I think the real issue is no nudity versus nudity; however, and if a guy requests nudity in not so shy or instant action, the rules say he gets priority. The host doesn't have a choice.

There is no confusion. It is about everybody wanting what they want, when they want it, how they want it, et cetera. Well, there are rules to govern everything, and they work fine when people follow them. This is really about guys wanting discounts by not paying for 121 and hosts being concerned that a good member (who probably is the one doing the chatting) will get angry and not come back if she starts doing a show. I understand that. But for the 100th time, all she has to do is go soft core and her problem is over. If she is so worried about losing traffic since she is no longer in hard core, then put in her profile and her personal forum, I WILL GIVE YOU A NAKED SHOW UNLESS I AM CHATTING WITH ANOTHER MEMBER. It isn't a perfect solution, but it would help. And besides, the "popular hosts" here are usually soft core hosts so she could actually see her traffic increase.

In any event, the rules are what they are. If CC wants to add a first come, first served rule, that's their choice. But until they do, the host and member need to work within the current rules and respect them.

These are from two of your posts...

"And if the host doesn't want to deal with more than one member, she should tell her visitors to go 121 or give them a password. "

"First, members don't like being told to go 121 for nudity by hard core hosts since it is against the rules. And they don't like being told to go 121 by soft core hosts since it costs more"

that is a confusion right there...on the one hand you are saying members do not like being told to go 121 but then you are
also telling hosts to tell members to go 121

Yes hosts are given rules and guidelines for each category they are in and those rules and guidelines must be followed...and when that is met then her next obligation is to the member in her video...yes cc says in hard core she must get nude when asked and that a host in soft core must follow through with what she agreed to do ...

but cc does not say and there is no rule that says when a member comes into an open session and says I want you nude by the end of this session but for the moment I only want you remove your bra and another member enters the same open session and says remove all your clothes right now and I do not care if the first member wants to take his time and have you remove ur clothing....there is no rule in cc that says she has to stop doing what the first member asked for in order to accomdate what the second member is asking for....that is why many hosts will say, I am with someone right now so please either wait your turn or come back....

And yes this is an issue....both members are paying and both members do not want the same thing...

If that is the case then when you say you try to avoid the problems by trying to be the first guy into video, that really would not help you because according to you, if another member enters then your request will no longer matter.

If she is suppose to do what the other member wants as well...if you want her nude and he wants her to dress so he can watch her strip it off again then your request of her staying nude will become void ...one of you will have to wait for what you are requesting...you have to admit that it is not possible for a host to do what two people want a the same time in one video when both want different...one of your requests is going to get ignored...

In terms of the 121 issue, there is no confusion. There might be a conflict since I am saying that hosts can suggest members go 121 but members might not want to do so, but that doesn't mean there is any type of confusion. It simply means that if the member refuses to go 121, then he has to accept the consequences of other guys entering video.

Second, in terms of the type of show, for Instant Action, your scenario is covered. Hosts specifically agree to a policy that states, "Also getting naked must not take a long time. This is not the category for a slow strip tease show." Therefore, once again, the rule says the guy that wants the fast show MUST get priority. That is the default. For not so shy, the host would have discretion as to whether to strip fast or do a slower tease since there is no such language. I suppose if she chose the slower tease and it was longer than say 5 minutes there could be some issues, but unless the host is from Colombia, I don't think this will be a problem, lol. There is also a rule against stalling by the way.

No rules are perfect. That is why there are lawyers and judges. In this case, the member writing to CC is acting as the lawyer on his own behalf and CC is the judge. CC will fill in the gaps in the event of any "confusion", but I don't really think that there is all that much that is vague. Rather, people just ignore what the existing rules say.

And once again, people aren't really focusing on anything other than chatting in hard core. You are simply coming up with hypotheticals that, while realistic, don't seem to be a major issue. I suppose that you can then take it to the next level and say "Okay, what if the chatter wants to screw with other guys and ask for a slow strip instead of a fast one. Can't the host go really, really slowly?" As stated, that won't work in Instant Action if someone requests a fast strip, and as for not so shy, since she can't stall, when CC sees the complaining member typing over and over in the video log that he would like her to pick up the pace, the host is going to get a warning, one star from the member, and the member will probably get a credit.

I just don't see this as a big deal if hosts and members accept that the rules for not so shy and hard core require stripping if requested by any member in video. It isn't like there are typically 10 guys in video at once all of the time with all of them making conflicting requests. And a smart host can accomodate multiple requests by stripping a little faster than the guy that wants the slow strip would like and a little slower than the guy that wants the fast strip would like in not so shy, for example. And she can change positions, et cetera, and let guys know that more than one member is in video so she is handling one request at a time. But if hosts want to risk lower ratings and posts in the member forum, by ignoring people completely and breaking rules, and not being good at communicating with members about the situation, that's fine. But most hosts really can't afford that unless they are the top hosts here, and anyway, most of those hosts are in soft core already so they can do what they want as long as they treat everyone with respect.

By the way, if everyone wants to give the first viewer priority, this is fine by me. I usually go open, and generally only enter open if I am the first guy there. If hosts want to ignore everybody else that enters video after me and give me a discounted 121, that's fine. Go for it hosts! Cost yourselves money. I am simply saying that members have zero right to expect this. And since I am almost always asking for a show, and wouldn't mind seeing any host strip if I was just chatting, I don't think any member will have a problem when he jumps into a video session when I am there first. My conversation can always wait, lol.

Okay new rule proposal: Dear CC, Please tell all hosts that the first guy into open video gets the host's exclusive attention. Anyone else is just a voyeur and just accept whatever is going on. If that is what people really want, as long as I know that is the new rule, it is fine by me.

huh...interesting thread.

Personally, if I'm second in to an open session, I always treat it basically as a voyeur session. I don't make requests, and I only message privately and only just often enough to seem friendly and not completely quiet and creepy. I've never thought of it being a matter of rule that I could ask for and expect more, I've just always thought such behavior would be dickish to the guy who was there before me.

If its open video anybody else can enter and both, 1st and 2nd and sometimes a 3rd viewer have equal rights since everyone is paying the established rate. Its the same as an open house sale that all buyers are invited to inspect the property. If your host favorites you then she should make a private session with password just for you(as some hosts already do). If you want exclusivity and your host "doesn't" want just you in her video at the open video then pay 121 rate. Otherwise you have no choice, but to share your host with other members. And... I will always enter open video, be it me first or someone. I dont care ;-)

"other peoples video" ?
a paying member who is the first one in an OPEN session does not owe the action.
OPEN is the word.

I totally agree with Moonlit Knights reply's to you. It is not up to you to honor the first guest in open and ignore the others. It is a matter of you learning to figure out how to keep all entertained and I am sure your chatter won't mind either. Especially in hardcore categories. It is just that an open session and the guy that comes into open to chat knows he's taking a chance of others coming in and that is the way it goes. I don't understand these hosts creating this first come first serve like at it would be at a retail outlet where everyone must stand in line to pay for their purchases. It's not even close to that. It's an open session for as many viewers as can fit. It's also an opportunity for the host to make a lot of money. Even in softcore when others start entering open I start acknowledging all and make it enjoyable. For that reason too I keep my 121 price reasonably low so that the ones that want exclusive can choose that option without it being unreasonably expensive.
As a host it is to your benefit for you to learn to entertain many at one time. Being in hardcore especially because if you are sitting there chatting with one guy then you are losing money and you're not doing what the rules require for your category. It's up to you to welcome all in to your open session and instead of taking special requests do a show that will entertain all. If they want special requests then that is a 121 option that they can choose. It's not appropriate for you to ignore others or ask them to come back. Who ever started that rumor is dead wrong!! You need to adjust your mind set or you are going to piss off a lot of viewers. They have the right to come in and expect the show that is expected in that category. I think it is reasonable to expect bad reviews too if you are doing otherwise.
I hope CC speaks ups or enough complain to them so that they correct this new rule that some hosts have started....it's bull and it will cost the host.

I look at categories simply as indicators as to how likely I am to get a show. Beyond that, they mean very little. So yes, as you move from glamour to little shy to not so shy to instant action, you are more likely to get a show, toys et cetera but that hardly means that you won't see soft core hosts acting like instant action hosts in open.

Host choose categories based on location on the who is online page and price, not just on the rules, as I indicated below. An instant action style host that has just average appearance simply cannot get away with charging instant action prices so she is forced to choose little shy, for example. And some hosts pick glamour simply because it is at the top of the page and thing it is more popular or at least will get them more attention.

As for open, whether I go right into open video or free chat depends on my mood and the price. The higher the price, the more likely I will enter free chat first. The bigger my most recent credit card bill, the more likely I will enter free chat first, lol. I also look for signs of problems such as hosts under 4,5 stars, comments in her forum, her profile, type of pics in her archive, difference in price from open to 121, whether she offers hi-lo, to try to see if she is willing to strip, does she stall, and whether she will say go 121.

Obviously, I am just guessing, but a member can often hear the words "121" before the host ever says them, and if the 121 price is too high, I will often not even bother taking the time to ask the host if my suspicions are correct. There are just too many other hosts so unless I am in love with her pics, I just move on. The hi, how are u, blah blah blah routine in free chat takes too long, and I am not going to just jump into free and say "Hey... You get naked?" A member needs to be a bit more diplomatic, which takes time, so I target hosts that I think I have a better chance with when soft core.

I don't think any of this is all that complicated. It is just time consuming and annoying when you want to find someone you are attracted to, get a show, and go take a shower. And the hosts that act like you committed murder if you ask about what they do in video when in free chat, make it even worse.

"And the hosts that act like you committed murder if you ask about what they do in video when in free chat, make it even worse."

I get that a lot.

Yes that would get to a member when put that way....

But I hope that you understand it is not always easy for a host to say what she does in a video, as not all member want to see the same thing, we all know the end result that majority of viewers want...but it is the road that each member wants to take is what varies so much. :)

I think you just need to be honest about things and answer questions directly. I cannot speak for everyone, but I would expect that most guys' number one concern is if you strip and if you will require 121 (if soft core). Some may ask about toys, anal, squirting, outfits, et cetera too, but it seems that all of that can be easily discussed too. The only issue is when the member gets his answers and keeps wasting your time in free chat. At that point, choose the ignore option and move on.

The issue that average viewer and I have had with hosts is that a very typical response by a soft core host to a question such as "Do you get naked in video?" is "I'm not Instant Action." Members get that type of response all of the time even from hosts that do strip and even if the member is not the so-called "two minute man". Many hosts simply are not receptive to this question and, as I stated, act like the member killed someone by asking it.

It is very annoying to members. I can tell you that if I am there for a show, unless you simply are not exciting me in any way, it is unlikely I will ever leave video before 10 minutes, and probably will be there 15 to 20 if not longer. But because of some host's attitude, I will avoid the question and try a less direct approach. For example, I might tell the host I need relief and ask what she can do for me. That still can lead to the "I'm not instant action" response, but at least it isn't quite as in your face as "Do you get naked?" so that type of approach can work a bit better.

Yes I agree being honest and answering questions directly is best.

I do not speak for all women on here and I would not even try to, but being a female, who has been in both hard core and soft core categories, I think I know a little bit more about what will piss her off or get her to say go to instant action. lool

If all this is taking place in text chat then...

Asking a host (if in soft cor) what she can do for you because you need relief is not always the best thing to ask, because then there is a good chance that you will get the response of "well it depends on what you want" or "go to instant action"..so unless you are willing to have that as a response, then ok do it that way....Some where along the way you are going to have to say that you want her to get nude for you..if a host can help you get the relief you want without getting nude, then that is the option she will try to take...lol The best way is to simply say I need relief and will be asking you to remove ur clothing and be nude for me..is that possible...

If a host (if soft core) is not wanting to get undressed nor willing to get undressed for you, or is going get pissed off or tell you to go to instant action or where ever, when she is asked to undress, it wont matter how you ask. if she has no intention of doing it.

There are a lot of hosts that prefer you tell them what you are wanting without being rude, crude and cold about it..so that you will get either a yes or a no...without all the word games...and then it is up to you if you decide to try other ways of getting her to get nude or to do something else instead...

There is nothing more frustrating then trying to remember and list allllll the ways and things that a host can do for you so that you get the relief you want, without leaving an option out..lool If a member gives the host an idea of what he is wanting that makes a difference to and will also get you an answer, as well as an option to other things that are possible...

But If a member is jumping into video and says to the host (if soft core) I need relief what can you do for me? then automatically the host is going to say sounds like you need instant action, because the first thing she is going to think is that you are wanting her to strip, spread, insert masterbate....that is when you will get the "go to instant action" response..lol

I just used that relief example as one example since some hosts seem to have a problem if asked do they get naked no matter how nicely you say it. But as to how they interpret my statements, whether it is the relief example or something else, they know what I am asking. Nobody has said "Are you thirsty? I can get you some water." lol.

The problem is no matter how you say it, some hosts just will attack you. But as for video, I personally don't ask hosts to strip in 10 seconds anyway, regardless of the category. I say hi, how are you, et cetera, and if I already did that in free chat, I still will be nice and say she looks nice and can I see more even in hard core. I want a good show, and a lot of times, I already know the host, so it usually pays to be nice.

Ironically, there actually is another problem. Some hosts strip too fast for my tastes. I definitely want them naked, but it is nice to see a strip of 2 or 3 minutes first in my view. But a few hosts, including soft core, already are naked and breaking out their toys before I even have gotten myself ready to have fun. (No, I won't be providing a list of such hosts, gentlemen.)

most members demand that you strip fast and get mad if u take 2 or 3 mins to be nude...that why member need to say what they want....saying go nude does not say if they want fast or slow.

Agree. Very important what kind of strip a viewer prefer, fast or slow. And they never clarify.

To ask a host if she gets naked in pvt is a pretty basic question that only requires a yes or no answer.

Yes very correct. asking that way is pretty simple and does not sound rude at all... :)

Very sorry for long response...I only have one small problem from all that you said... loool...

"Host choose categories based on location on the who is online page and price, not just on the rules, as I indicated below."

I am sorry to say but you are making a general statement which is not completely correct...there are many hosts on here that pick their category based on the rules and guidelines given to us as hosts which are not the same as given to members...

I did not and do not pick a category based on location on the who is online page and price, I pick my category based on what I am comfortable doing as do a number of hosts.

My price is the same as when I was in hardcore category or soft core, because I still do a lot of the same things, I just am not able to constantly shove a toy in or start masterbating the instant a member enters the video and demands it....when I am able and willing to do that then I will go back into the hard core category and my price will still stay the same...

Please Moonlit Knight...you are constantly making judgements and statements as tho you are talking all about hosts..and that is not a fair thing to do.

There is one post that you responded to telling a member that he should report host to cc as you assume he had a problem with her, and the advice you have given is based on information that you do not have...normally yes when a member has a host that does not follow through on what she agreed to do before video started, then yes by all means report her.. But again please make sure that you have the facts when you tell a member to report a host...

I meant that among the factors that hosts consider are location on the page, minimum price, and the category requirements. I understand that everyone would balance things differently.

I apologize for not being as specific as you would like. There are times when we make general statements here, and in my case at least, I don't intend such statements to apply 100% of the time unless I am saying a rule says a particular thing. In this case, we are discussing things that are not as definite so I was not trying to say every host makes her decisions the same way. I think in a post below I was a bit more clear about this same issue, but perhaps I was not.

I also understand my experiences are not the same as everyone else's and know the difference between opinion and fact. But as a long time member, with lots of interaction with CC, with complete access to exactly what hosts see, and with lots of interaction with hosts on CC over the years, I think my opinion is pretty well-informed. The only time I would be less confident in what I say would be in trying to get inside another member's mind since I don't interact with them. I will never understand slaves, for example, lol. But as for hosts, I think I have a very good idea as to where they are coming from, and I definitely feel confident in my understanding of most of the rules and policies of CC.

Judging by your replies in this thread either your confidence in your understanding is mis-placed or you misunderstood the original poster. Even if a host is in a hardcore category her first responsibility is to try to follow the member's requests if he is the only one in her video. If a member simply wants to chat with an IA host and does not immediately want a show she is not obliged to give him one. Anyone who joins the video later should not feel pissed off that the host is not naked. On the other hand the second viewer is entitled to request the IA host to immediately start to strip regardless of what the first viewer wants. The host should comply with this. If the first viewer is not happy about this then he should leave and come back later. SImilarly in Not Shy a member who enters video when someone else is already should expect to spend a few minutes chatting with the host before asking her to strip, as would be the case if there was no one in her video when he entered. It is the members who jump into a video session that is already in progress, hoping to find the host already nake that are cheap, not the ones who enter video first. The host should not ignore second (or third or forth members) who enter a video session but should also not ignore the first member. The big problem for the hosts is when members make conflicting requests for actions during a show. In this case the only thing a host can do is explain that there are several in video and she will fulfil all requests but cannot do so immediately.

I agree with most of what you said. I don't think I ever said a host must get naked if nobody requests it. And I never said a member that jumps into an ongoing video in hard core had a right to expect the host to already be naked. I pretty much said exactly what you said.

The only thing that I take issue with is that I would say that besides the guy jumping into an ongoing video arguably being cheap, I do think that any member expecting a host's full attention or some type of special priority when in open just because he is the first member there is cheap. Well, cheap might not be the right word, but he is definitely trying to save some money, and for him to get angry if he doesn't get this priority in open session seems inappropriate to me. It is OPEN session, NOT 121. And it is especially wrong when either the host or the member try to institute some type of first come, first served rule in an environment when actual rules trump that notion.

Well that is not really going to help a host much unless she has 5 stars, because no one really knows where they will be on the whose online page until they actually open their room...loool Even with 4.5 stars a host will not know where she will be on the list until she actually opens her room...the only way of factoring in that is if she keeps jumping from category to category until she is where she wants to on the list, or if she looks and sees who and how many are online and then jumps online...loool...

Yes we all have our times of making general statments..without realizing we are doing it...

I understand your a long time member and you have probably spoken to many hosts and have gotton to know what those hosts are like and how to approach those hosts that you have had interaction with, just like we as hosts have had lots of interaction with me members and we know the different requests and that even one member will not always want the same thing the same way, let alone the same host all the time...but there are still many hosts that you have not interacted with that might not agree with you or I..just like there are probably many members that might not agree with you or I. and there are those of both that really dont care what we are saying...loool..

Yes there are many differences between fact and opinion, as well as between individuals and situations...and it is not possible to understand nor know how each person will react, see, respond, or understand a situation until it actually happens...it is the same with something that is said, no one knows how they will respond to it till after it is read or said..and even then it will be different according to the person's frame of mind and mood at the time as to how they perceive something, one can read something three different times and depending on what mood they are in they might see that same thing in a different way each time. loool...

When I said where they appear on the page, I meant some might choose Glamour since it comes first as opposed to something like Instant Action because it is further down the page. I considered the idea of a host jumping from category to category to do as you suggested, but I wasn't focusing on that.

I found the category guide lines - pretty general and loose and indefinite, if you ask me. But where are the specific rules that hosts are bound to honor? I see them mentioned in this thread, but can't find them anywhere.

Because it is a closely guarded secret

If your not a host then you wont get the rules that hosts get...

If you register as a host then you will see the rules that hosts get....

Just like we don't get the rules or what ever you get as members...unless we become a member ......loooool

"Just like we don't get the rules or what ever you get as members...unless we become a member ......loooool"

Not true. You can read all in Terms and Conditions.

no what we have are the chathost terms and conditions. that show what the terms and conditions are about the site itself, being a chathost and what the site can do with the photos and such that we submit.

We do not see Members terms and conditions nor do we see Members rules.

I have never seen any rules, nor terms and conditions for members either.

Do members even get any rules?

I think it is reasonable that you would get pissed if in IA or NSS if you go into an open session and the host ignores you or asks for you to come back.
There is no first come, first serve. It is up to the host to entertain all in the room with what her category requires and her profile. She should resort to her "show" if there are several in the room and asking for special requests. At that time she could offer them 121 as an option if they want her undivided attention and make requests. There is no order of anyone coming into the room and if the first one only wants to chat then he should also expect that as soon as someone else enters then her attention is shared with him and all that enter after that.
Somehow lately these hosts have created justification to only acknowledge 1 member in open but it is totally wrong and actually kinda stupid on her part because she is losing money.
I think all members should respect the fact that in open there is no exclusivity and they have the option of choosing 121 when others leave.
I think you are justified in taking necessary actions available to you if you are asked to leave or ignored in open and the host refuses to do the show that she has written in her profile and is expected by her category that she chose.
I think it is only reasonable to understand when there are many in open that her show will be rather general and not with special requests.

Hi as a host who was in not so shy...I found it very difficult when there would be a number of members in at the same time...one asked for doggy, another asked to sit on toy and third asked for on back legs apart...I politely let them all know that there were three in asking for different and if it was possible to for me to do something that all three would be happy with, I was told no by all three and that they were paying so just do as told..I tried to do what each asked but it was not possible to do all three things at the same time

As each time I tried to attempt to do what was asked each would get mad and say that is not what I wanted nor asked for...and they became very angry...this type of thing has happened on number of occasions, where more than one member at a time will be in open session asking for different things at the same time. It is not that I am unwilling to do what is asked.

So seeing as you seem sooo well experienced what would you have done? I would like to learn so that I can be as good as you seem to be....

I am sorry that you experienced that. I think my reply to all would be this is an open session and I can not meet special requests when there are many in the room. Therefore I am going to give you a sexy show and if you would like my undivided attention another time please feel free to join me in 121.
In open when there are many I think you have to take control and do your show or sexy dance or whatever you think would be entertaining to all without special requests. I think guys tend to expect that when there are several. To let them know that there are others in the room is a very good idea because I don't know what they can see other than right before they entered your room.
Good Luck and I hope you find it helpful because it really adds up fast when you can entertain all in open even if you can't meet each of the viewers requests. I think it should be used to give a good show but also encourage them to take you to 121 to enjoy you privately. :))

I agree. I look at open with several viewers as a Group Show that most other sites have. A viewer gives up control of the video to save a great deal of money and the host can do requests one at a time. Back in the day before 121, this is the way it was. And I recall all hosts being much busier than they are these days.

I think that if a member enters an open session, he should also be aware that there might be so many other members there that his own requests might take some time to get to. Again, the price for opting for non-exclusivity.

I totally agree with both. Going into open session is taking of chance of sharing a show with many others. I think the host should (especially in hardcore)should preform a show that in general viewers will enjoy and not specific requests unless they are fortunate to be the only one in the room. 121 is for private time with the host to make your special requests without interruptions. I think Open Session was designed for the host to actually do a show that will give all viewers a taste of what she is like with absolutely no exclusivity. When another member enters open they share in the ongoing show and not chat if in the categories that require nudity. Her responsibility is only to entertain in general as specified in the category and her profile to all that come into open. There is no preference given to anyone at the point where others enter. Viewers should understand that and not expect exclusivity either.

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Being "yourself" is an illusion.

"Mastering others is strength. Mastering yourself is true power." Lao Tzu

How is it possible to master yourself if you can't first even be yourself?

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that death,...


A coward dies a thousand deaths a hero dies but one?

You're getting caught up in words.

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"maybe the quote was referring to the teaching system in our schools..? lol :)"

Yes, perhaps so, and when you fight the "system," whoever "they" might be, doesn't that eventually define you, in your own mind? I think that's a trap. You are really not that person. The person you are is not who you think you are.

Thank you, EnchantressX, for your reply; I see you're in Not Shy... but I won't let that define who you are... :))))))

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