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After seeing a lot here in videos with host and reading about their profile and knowing why they choose the category their in, and now after reading and listening to what members write and guessing now why host are very selective in making friends with a member, I come up with the conclusion and it does work on other sites that cc needs a member profile for the host to read all about. So members don't me shy in telling the truth here. The selections below are names of the categories just choose one only,
1. Gay
2. Lonely
3. Big Ego
4. For Members Only
5. All Above
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RE: Members Category

None

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You left out None of the Above, and the one which would probably fit the most viewers: Virtual John. Meaning: Someone who is just here for quick and easy virtual sex.

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all above

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number 3

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1 gentlemen
2 slaves
3 siissies
4 horny sluts

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+ 5. friends

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1 & 4 :P

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6. voyeur

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I hope you are kidding.

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RE: what price is good for prerecorded video? and what you want to see there?

I sometimes use prerecorded because they are simpler and you can also get a preview of a host. And for a host they are seem like a way to make a few dollars when they are not around. Typically I will not pay over 1.00 per minute. The downside of these videos is that they do not automatically go back to the beginning after another members has "left the room."

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RE: what price is good for prerecorded video? and what you want to see there?

I think it depends on what catagory you normally work in or intend to work in? Ive seen some that are very good and some that are very bad. Do you want to use it as a preview of yourself or as if you are doing a live show? I'd say go with the show.

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RE: what price is good for prerecorded video? and what you want to see there?

why dont you record a show that you do for a regular? if you do shows for regulars or do you want to do one for me :)

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RE: what price is good for prerecorded video? and what you want to see there?

do you need someone to film you? I would be happy to help you out :)))))))))

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RE: what price is good for prerecorded video? and what you want to see there?

I think 1-1.50 is all I would spend on a recorded vid.

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RE: what price is good for prerecorded video? and what you want to see there?

1.00 to 2.00 maximum. Depends on what you are showing I personally think.

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RE: Liberator

Roj Blake swore by his Liberator

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evingelina

looking for her. Know she has a new user name...can't remember.
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RE: evingelina

lol. how'd you see this post? you do the forums? haha

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RE: evingelina

check with the guys over at Nailbytes1.com bbs. They may be able to help. Or, try her yahoo group.

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RE: Great Olympics opening show! :D

she did jump from the helicopter, she is very game for an 86 year old!
Put James Bond to shame, as he didn't jump.

Not been fun knowing the secret for 7 months that the queen would jump and not being allowed to tell anyone.

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RE: Great Olympics opening show! :D

Coming from UK, London may have all the money as a leading city but behind what you do not see the place really is a shit hole!!
After living there for 4 years I was glad to get out of there in the end.

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RE: Great Olympics opening show! :D

Don't get me wrong the main attractions are great and always packed with many nationalities as this is part of what is great for many visitors -- just do no expect many bowler hats on men :) The show was fantastic, there was a few cringeworthy moments for me - over aged Beatle was one for sure, however with all the money the Government spent in bringing in the Oylmpics and putting on the show was by too far too much when in the outskirts of London a lot of that money would have gone a long way to cleaning up and doing a lot for the community, instead they talk of a legacy and it's the peoples Olympics - yet the Big wigs so money crazy. Having known the areas and seeing all the money being spent I hang my head in shame to the likes or Seb Coe. Yet this is about this moment and yes it was spectacular.

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Yeah loved the show , it had humanity and some wonderful moments ...... as for the guy who said London is a shit hole ))) hahaha well i have been everywhere in this world and London has it low points but lots of highs and it has an energy you only find in very places ))

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RE: Great Olympics opening show! :D

Well, speaking as and Englishman I am pleased to hear that others thought the show was good. Although it was certainly impressive I was worried that most of the world would have no clue as to what was actually going on. E.g, not sure what the industrial revolution has got to do with the Olympics....... Also, Paul McCartney was a strange choice, and the song even stranger, the guy simply cant sing any more, and again what has 'Hey Jude' got to do with the event at hand?
IMO the best part was the cauldron, I thought that was fantastic and such an amazing creation, but I would have loved to see how it was moved out of the way today!

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RE: Great Olympics opening show! :D

it was about the history of the host country, i don't recall most other hosting countries putting on an opening ceremony purely about the olympics.
I agree about Paul McCartney unfortunately his singing days are over.

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the opening ceremony isn't about the olympics or even sport.it's about letting the world know the cities,country's place in history.the ceremony was quirky,off-beat,strange & very typically british.for me it was a great advertisment for britain & damn that place rules for music! :--)

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I loved the opening show, all of it. Regarding Paul McCartney; well he is a living legend from there...as far as Hey Jude goes, he probably picked it, because it's so much of a sing-along song, which worked great. Everyone was singing along, and did you notice how they were all smiling, and how much fun they were having? I think that was the idea...unity...get people doing something together, and at the same time, have fun. I'd say it worked :)

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Been every where in the world???? Thats a bold statement...

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It was a great opening. I enjoyed every minute

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I didn't like the show of starting Olimpic games...too gloomy. IMHO

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3 wishes(an old theme)

a sales rep,an administration clerk & the manager are walking to lunch when they find an antique oil lamp.they rub it and-are you way ahead of me?-a genie comes out,promising each of them one wish.
"me first,me first!"the admin clerk says"i want to be in the bahamas,driving a speedboat,without a care in the world."
puff!she's gone.
"me next,me next!"the sales rep says."i want to be in hawaii,relaxing on the beach with my personal masseuse,an endless supply of pina coladas & the love of my life."
puff!he's gone.
"ok,you're up."the genie says to the manager.
the manager says"i want those 2 back in the office after lunch." :--)
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RE: 3 wishes(an old theme)

Wish tisme was gone
Wish tisme was gone
Wish tisme was gone
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RE: 3 wishes(an old theme)

My favorite joke of this kind:
A Bosnian, a Serb and a Croat find a magic frog that grants them three wishes.
The Serb says "Those damn Croats, they caused so much suffering. I want them all gone from this planet, with the exception of my good friend here."
The Croat says "Those damn Serbs, they caused all that suffering, I want them just GONE, with the exception of my good friend here."
The Bosnian says "So let me get this straight...all Serbs and Croats are gone, with the exception of my two friends here? Oh. Well..I guess I'd like a cup of coffee then."

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RE: host in galmour

Good looking, sexy, good cam, low to medium price, funny or good personality, good variety of outfits, charisma & a profile/pics that make me stop and think...hmm i need to see her on cam.

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RE: host in galmour

Agree with Rock. Just wanted to add most of them have an excellent mastery of English. That is huge.

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RE: host in galmour

If they get naked and play for you eventually they have 5 stars

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damn i don't want to see u guys in a market looking after eggs...let me guess:they must be big enough,tasty enough,with thin or thick shell, made by not too stressed chickens....have i forgot something???ohh yesss...and they must be the cheapest eggs!!!!!!i have GOOD NEWS:just look in your pants u don't need to go to the market and buy some!!!metaphorically speaking of course:))

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lol

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Not true. Some of the most expensive hosts in Glamour never take their clothes off. I would have to agree with Rock on this. I would add another characteristic of member. The rich guy who has to buy the companionship of a pretty woman.

I occassionally go into their rooms just to bust their chops about charging so much to do nothing but chat. So their understanding of the English language becomes really important.

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Good host means naked host ?

I dont find that accurate ! I mean ok ..you can be a cheap viewer who wants only pussy and dildo's and God knows what ..but I strongly believe that if you act nice with a host it can actually develop in a nice friendship and who knows what in the future , as long as your a gentleman . Of couse we do have the different types of guys ...married ones, creepy ones etc , but my point is that sometimes a host that doesnt get naked can actually end up to be something great for you ! And yes I dont mean that she will ruin you finances in the process . :)
I can understand the fact that a viewer is seeing alot of different girls, but please stop saying that a woman who doesnt get naked for you is bad ..that sounds so cheap and out of line ! :) peace and love brothers..peace and love ! :))
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RE: Good host means naked host ?

A nice friendship is fine, but I have found that a friendship on here usually leads to less nakedness....

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kab didn't lol

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RE: Good host means naked host ?

You are on a cam site which main purpose is live cam interaction! Wankers can go and view as much free porn as they like online, the point of being here is the great company and interaction with women! If it was only about nudity and performing sex acts with toys why on earth would one bother communicating with live human being. Might just watch a porn clip and wank!

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RE: Good host means naked host ?

When does the naked headstand, ass fisting, national anthem singing show start? Is that a new event in the Olympics this summer? :))

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"but I strongly believe that if you act nice with a host it can actually develop in a nice friendship and who knows what in the future , as long as your a gentleman " husband hunting?????????

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RE: Good host means naked host ?

good hosts get naked in my opinion!

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just asking myself...

Things are simple...every guy is different such is every host.As a host u cant please everybody and only a foul would try too,because then u would be nothing else then a simple robot.As a member u have the right to like /dislike a host.What is a good host?One who gets naked?Depends from a viewer to another! Most would say yes if she gets naked she is a great one but does not mean all think the same.A good host should be able to hold a conversation in English,treat every member with respect and not see them just as the $ sign.In the end host or members we all humans ,let's not forget that!

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RE: just asking myself...

true kitty ! I'm just tired of seeing men who complain alot of women who don't get naked . As long as you don't lie about it ... why should they complain ? You want a slave you go to Dungeon , you want nasty stuff you go to Instant Action and etc . I'm not day dreaming , getting married isnt my life dream :)) but I do love some online romance and yes I am open minded about it ... who knows :))) On the other side no one can ever make me do something that I don't want to do !! doh ! :)) everyone makes money around here ... one way or another ! :)) thanks for the replys ! have fun girls and boys ! :))

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RE: just asking myself...

That's not true. I make evreyone happy. It's usually when I leave a host's video, or leave work, or leave the pub, or leave the party.

Yes everyone is happy when I leave :D

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RE: Good host means naked host ?

I dont look for those things here, im here for the sex only, have friends to discuss with elsewhere and dont need pay them

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RE: Good host means naked host ?

I don't think I'm cheap because I only want to see naked girls. I tried the friendship thing when I first got onto cam sites but soon got burnt. It was my own fault. I couldn't get girls like are on here when I was the same age as them so what chance have I got 25 years later.

So I will stick to seeing girls naked. I have no problem with girls who do not strip. If they can still make money I say good luck to them. But I will never visit them.

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RE: Good host means naked host ?

Right on bro!

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RE: Good host means naked host ?

good thinking :) no Im not a naked girl was just browsing around

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joke ;))

what is the hardest surgery to perform on a woman? To take the cock out of her head :)|)))
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:) do we really need that surgery?

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hmm knowing women .. they need surgery to put it in :) google for Stephen Fry shocks feminists by claiming women don't really like sex
funny things is hes gay :)

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Less girls willing to strip in softcore these days

It seems like to me there are far fewer hosts willing to strip in softcore than there used to be years ago. I'm talking about just simple nudity nothing more. And I mean in 121 too. I see guys posting about hosts that used to strip but no longer do. I've had more and more hosts tell me if I want nudity to go to IA.

And I'm not saying all hosts do this, but to me it seems like less are willing to strip than before.
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RE: Less girls willing to strip in softcore these days

Summer, so hot, air coolers works!! so how to undress when it is so cold in the room:)))?

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Hot Olympic Atheletes!

ok, Amanda Beard, the sexy swimmer is a really hot MILF. Any other favorites?
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A couple, but alas don't know their names.
One was a girl who did kind of a warm up dance before her hurdle race...it was on yahoo the other day, saying it was a youtube video that went viral...so I looked at it, and it was sexy, and she was hot.

The other....this was just briefly mentioned in the news today...a track and field lady from Greece said some inappropriate remarks on twitter, and got kicked off the team for what she said...the news clip showed her briefly...blonde and beautiful.

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RE: Hot Olympic Atheletes!

Voula Papachristou look her up she's one of those rough bleached dogs close up

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Shes hot for a blonde!

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Spoken like a true brunette!

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Haha Sir, yes, Sir!!!))

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Yep, sure is! I just looked her up online, and oh my goodness she is very pleasing on the eyes. To each their own, and for every like, there will be dislikes, but in my view, she is smoking hot.

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she isnt in the Olympics but i wish she was ....michelle jenneke.

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Michele Jeneke is pretty hot. but not sure if she is on Australia's Olympic team or not.

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Jessica Ennis and retired Denise Lewis & Sharon Davis

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Dont know of the athletes of today but svetlana boginskaya must been the sexiest female ever

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Leryn Franco, but i need more time to make up my mind :D

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damn shes fine , by far the sexiest lady in the Olympics

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Wow a brunette with classy features! Who would guess?))

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Ah... we really don't have far to go to find that, do we? Mount Olympus is so very far away.

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RE: Hot Olympic Atheletes!

Hottest of all time, Sandra Farmer-Patrick!!

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Oldest?

Hosts, how old was the oldest member you have seen on here?

Feel free to elaborate.
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does it matter you might wanna ask

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My guess is No, it doesn't matter. But so what? He's curious. And it's a discussion starter.

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Because I am getting older and I don't want to freak anyone out.

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Did you see his ID?

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If you're still here when I am 85 I promise to show you my rock hard cock elle :P

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"What for to tell a lie about their age?"

Men lie about all kinds of things

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So do women, so what's your point?

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RE: Oldest?

Thanks Ele, my favourite forum post ever! )))

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there is a older member then you ally , lol

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You've given me a new mind-picture. What is a "string hard cock"?

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It's a bright shining moment in the life of an 85-year-old lol.

(I have more of a rope myself, not to brag).

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Mine's a hawser (not to brag) :D

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But, Ele, you said "STRING hard cock" :) I'm picturing in my mind, a hard cock, about 1 mm thick and several meters long

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Maybe he died and all body got stiff ;)

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Uhoh... that's in my neighborhood.

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I think it is a tough question for hosts to answer because, unless they are in cam to cam with a member, they have to rely on what age he gives them. Of course there are clues that the member is older than he says but I think many older men would lie about their age to hosts. I think for many older men the fantasy is thinking they are young again and doing it with a young woman.

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Well, also many older men will lie about this simply because...even though hosts are very kind and gracious when it comes to this subject...the guy is thinking that in the hosts mind...if he tells his real age, regardless of what nice words she says, she's actually thinking Ugh!, yuck, old guy. So he'll give the youngest age he thinks he can get away with.

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The fantasy for me, is I get to be a cyber dirty old man. And hosts don't care how old or how young a viewer is. The only thing that matters is how much money he's going to spend in their room.

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Yes, if he says, "I remember when Eleanor Roosevelt was hosting here" it might be a clue he is really really old :D

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74 yo, hard and regular!!:) I wish his great health and to cum for me again and again:)))

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Ah that's comforting.

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Old Clothing

was reading the news and seen Chief Joseph war shirt fetches $877,500 at auction-which brings me to think-what would be one of your personal item you would sale and how much are you expected for it-mine would be my old high school graduation suit which was original the suit Chief Hoclaw wore at the 50th year anniversity of peace in the valley worth and should bring $200.
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I will take 500 bucks for my training bra

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$10,000 for my training jock.

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my 1965 Mickey Mantle jersey and will take $10,000

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my old underwear I lost 202 pounds and don't need them anymore and I will give them away "free" to anyone that weighs over 440 pounds

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Cotton or Polyester? I need a new tent, and cotton won't work too well, especially if it rains.

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RE: Old Clothing

does that include the famous yellow panties?

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RE: Old Clothing

If i buy some of your lingerie, do you promise to come in it? :) <hoping>

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I would pay a lot for a few hosts underwear but they would have to be wearing it when I took posession.

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my strap-on. it made so many guys happy:))) LOL

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I wonder what a pair of elephant hide boots would sell for? Purchased pre ban of course, but I think they are illegal to sell now, maybe that would make them worth more lol.

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Used tights/panytyhose

Any ladies wish to sell?
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RE: Used tights/panytyhose

Can you send me message about them please?

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Ewwwww dafaq?

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RE: Used tights/panytyhose

I have a few any color of your choice

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Can you send me message about them please?

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I ship panties within UK almost every week :) Can do tights too I suppose :)

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RE: Used tights/panytyhose

But are they all worn by you or do you have a gang of grannies who do the wearing for you :P

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RE: Used tights/panytyhose

Can you send me message about them please?

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RE: Used tights/panytyhose

Come to my video chat , i will show you MY pantyhoses , then send you! I love pantyhoses i have even red ones , black, grey, all type!!!

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RE: Used tights/panytyhose

I am a guy and wish to sell you my slightly Used tights/panytyhose

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CC not wife approved

Like many members I am married. And like many members my spouse does NOT know I come here. I had a seperate credit card for any charges generated from CC that was also used for my business. My wife found it and came to the conclusion that the credit card had been hacked. UH OH.....almost got caught.....and frankly I am not sure the calamity has been avoided yet. I am sure many will come to the conclusion that I am a sleezeball for coming here as a married guy....but I would bet a great deal there are many men like me here. I am not saying I am particularly proud of this...but here I am anyway. I am interested what experiences other married members have had regarding cc charges.
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The chances of my wife becoming a host are pretty much zero. She is self conscious just wearing a bathing suit.

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Noob! :)))

Get a prepaid card. A bit of hassle, yes, but works like a charm :D

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RE: CC not wife approved

Yep, just what I was going to say. I'm not married, but always just use a debit card, because even though I've never been hacked or had a problem, I'm just ultra cautious about the internet. If I just put limited amounts on it at a time, I never have to worry; and it's certainly good for your purpose of keeping activities secret.

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RE: CC not wife approved

Excellent advice. Seems so obvious. Damn why did I not think of that? Must have been complacent, lazy and pretty much stupid.

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RE: CC not wife approved

What prepaid card would work on CC? It is my understand CC requires a valid Visa or Mastercard with name and address and security code. I don't think most pre-paid cards come with that. CC wants a real card because. unlike a real credit card, if you are in a video and the prepaid amount is exhausted, CC could be left holding the bag. A real credit card will happily let you go over your credit limit so they can sock you with a fine. CC gets paid.

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RE: CC not wife approved

Actually, most prepaid cards DO come with that info these days.

Regarding your second concern, why do you think CC sends multiple payment requests during video sessions and not one at the end only? If your prepaid amount is exhausted and the payment gets refused you are kicked out of session and your account may be blocked until the payment is cleared.

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RE: CC not wife approved

Yep :) NoBS is correct; myself as well. As I said, I use a debit card on here...have for years, and have had...goodness knows how many sessions, and it works just fine.

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RE: CC not wife approved

I usually come online when my wife isn't in the mood to play. One time I got caught and told her why I I come here. As soon as she figured it out we got down and dirty right there. Now, if she's not in the mood she knows what I'm doing. No problems. No questions asked.

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RE: CC not wife approved

If you are married, the funds you use on CC are assets of the marriage, and therefore you are undermining your marriage if you are doing that in secret. And then of course you are acting out sexually with other women, in secret.

Maybe you're okay with that. But I'll bet she isn't.

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RE: CC not wife approved

Marriage is a legal contract, your money is her money.

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You completely miss the point. But you're a host, so maybe that is intentional.

If DodgingABullet runs up thousands of dollars in credit card debt (not saying he has or hasn't), and then suddenly dies, those credit card debts are the wife's to pay, because they are part of the marriage.

If my wife buys a ton of shoes, I pay for them. But I can see the shoes, and she's not weird about them or anything so she doesn't get off on them sexually. So mostly I don't mind lol.

As Bullett says, marriage is more than just about sex and money. It's about honesty too.

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No, I do not have sex with my wife. Is that an acceptable excuse to the average spouse to be here? Probably not.

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That seems like a good question. The answer is because in most other ways we are compatible, and marriage is more than sex. Perhaps early in a marriage sex is important, but after awhile it becomes less so. Besides sexual release is pretty easy to find on the internet....that is what led me to CC in the first place.

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No, real sex (meaning touching a woman) is a thing of the past. Do I miss it? Yes, I suppose so. But frankly not so intensely that I am willing to have a full blown affair or divorce my wife. My drive still exists, otherwise I would not be here.

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In a classical case, people have always married because then they started to have sex with each other exclusively with all consequences resulting from that--> children.
If you enter a "free marriage" it includes the agreement of both parties. (I guess there is tiny minority of ppl wishing that)

Sex is something tangible...all your connection and bonding and soulmating- are pretty much illusive terms which can be freely interpreted. (and which result in "fooled" members).

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Sex is stress relief for men. Marriage is a legally binding contract. It is a different kind of business transaction than the one we have on this site. Men pay for sex, one way or the other. It's very simple.

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"It's very simple"... Thank you for your deep thoughts... pfffft.

If you want to reduce marriage and sex to a simple business transaction between men and women (and, increasingly, men & men, and women & women lol), that's certainly your choice and that of many others. Thankfully not everyone does.

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sex is stress relief for men AND women.

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interesting...what srong believes should marriage be based on in your opinion? nothing personal, just interested to see that ''basement'' with ''male'' eyes)

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I live with my wife but we not had sex for many years either.

You like to explore things more with me? If so give me your nickname.

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Lots of reasons: physical incapacity of one or both, diminished sexual drive, boredom with partner (for sex), emotional block. Or you could have sex only occasionally and be very satisfied. There could be lots of reasons to stay together regardless.

You must be young. You only need use your imagination.

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ok, I can imagine that people have mutual friends, common interests... money reasons, or work hard and don't need divorce fuss right now.
I guess in reality people get divorced when one partner head over heals fell in love with someone else and that person is not willing to be a refuge for his sexual needs.
I guess it is not the case with the Bullet. He fulfulls social needs with the wife and sexual needs here. No great love involved.

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personally i find much more stranger things in life than people not having sex within their marriage...so i just guess there are some reasons for that and as long as they are happy or even not happy...bet they are ''big boys and girls'' to figure out how to live with that)

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Believe it. It has been many years since I had sex with another person, not counting CC...:). I know for a fact I am not the only one. By the way I am perfectly healthy; the parts work just fine thanks.

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I cannot imagine the reasons why you cannot have sex with your wife.
You can satisfy her orally at least and vice versa.

I am sorry but not having sex in years and living with your wife sounds like an improbable romantic fairy tale for naive girls. Or it is called brain-fucking.

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It's no fairy tale. Why do you think CC and other sites are so popular?

C O N V E N I E N C E, and no complications. Well, not usually.

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I agree .

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I'd say that's a very naive opinion. Lots of married couples no longer have very active (or even slightly active) sex lives with each other. And that's okay.

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Agreed. Sorry Ann, I'm not even in that situation, but am well aware of it, as it is fairly common, and also common knowledge.

If you've been with someone for say 20 plus years, there can be alot of love there; but if the people are now 40 lbs overweight the sexual appeal will often be gone; particularly for the man. Few things are universal, but generally speaking...men are always going to be interested in sex, and are very visual when it comes to that. So that after many years, a man can still love his wife, still be interested in sex, but not with her...no, not surprising or unusual at all.



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Which is Precisely why I said: "Few things are universal, but generally speaking..."
Of Course there are women out there who are more visually oriented when it comes to what interests them sexually; however it is just a fact that men Are more visual than women when it comes to what interests them sexually and women on the other hand, are much more forgiving when it comes to looks.
Not saying that's good or bad, but it Is a fact.

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Well...
1. "Meanwhile, men are overweight but that's "okay" because women are more "forgiving".

At NO POINT did I Ever judgementally say anything about that situation being "okay." just that it existed as a point of fact and it does.
2 It Is just a simple fact, that when it comes to sexual interests, men Are more visual, and women Are more forgiving.

3. Ironically you actually Validate almost every point I made. I merely pointed out that over time, a man can still be very interested in sex, but just not with the same woman anymore...
Soo...you were with a very overweight man...well obviously you were indeed visually forgiving. You were with him for a year and a half...then "HE stopped being sexually-interested. He would rather jerk off than have sex with me. "
Soo...he was jerking off...pretty much means he was still interested in sex...however in his mind, his fantasy, he can be having sex with, well anyone in world...so, sure enough, after a year and a half, he was certainly still interested in sex...just no longer with you. That was Exactly the point I was making, and your situation completely validates it. Again I also never said anything about this being a good situation, just that it exists.

4. Regarding the oh so sensitive weight issue...40 lbs overweight was just an easy, quick example. I could've said stick thin, with a face that looks like it got ran over by a truck...but 40 lbs overweight was just the first thing that came to mind.

5. "And you know, there IS such a thing as asexuality, right? Some people don't like sex at all! Get over it!
Which is why I said "generally speaking...." But far as me getting over it...don't know where you got that, because I've certainly never lost any sleep over that fact. Nope, never bothered me, pretty much don't care at all.

In any case, sorry that my earlier comments were both misunderstood, and also so upsetting to you. I was not being cruel to overweight people or anything of the sort, merely pointing out some facts, which as I said, your story actually reinforced.

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Ann, you must be younger. Many men stay married without sex, for many different rreasons. And many of us have lots of sex. I am married, I have sex with my wife, I have "sex" here, sometimes I have sex with other women in real. Ever situation is different

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Im not married but wouldnt let my wife gf or anyone else have any control of my bankaccount. Its enough if have a common bankaccount to pay bills and such and can move some money there once a month or so. If ever marry I would sign a deal first where its stated that both parts have their own money

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I think Tom Cruise would agree with you

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Using a business account card for Adult Cam services? Man, are you setting yourself up for some tax department problems!

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Nahh, I just list it as an owner withdraw. I may or may not be cheating on my wife by being here...but I am not cheating the government out of their taxes.
As an aside my guess is this place has many folks not declaring their income off of CC. But that is a topic for another string.

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Hey Ann I got a story too mail me and we can discuss it.

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I help good wives catch guys like you here!

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Few of my married members just use "SECRET credit card" I dont know how it works, but seems it works for them good:)
Ohh and of course sex is not an only thing that can hold people together, escpecially if they have KIDS and very LONG time married.

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Sure would like to have know about that "secret card" before. Oh well.
Just an update....so far I am not in th clear about my credit card expenses. Still holding my breath and regretting my stupidity. Besides all guys sooner or later have to learn women find out everything!

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Why don't you just tell her directly what you spent your money on?

I guess she is not very young since she is not interested in sex anymore- so she is capable of understanding.
Don't tell me she will go all wild and wonder why is it that you still want to have sex?! It's her fault as well after all.

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Because fundamentally I guess I believe coming here to CC is a form of "cheating" on my marriage vows. Besides I have spent many hundreds of dollars here. But I am pretty sure I am going to have to confess....never an easy task. But I still hold out a sliver of hope I can "dodge this bullet."

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Just confess my dear- you will fell much better after that.

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I think marriage vows is one thing- important if you are religious.

Another thing is whether you have spent that money on different hosts just for sex (as you said, your initial aim on CC was sex) or if you fell for one special host and visited her a lot.
The latter is closer to cheating.

But you may not tell your wife about that special host, if applicable. That may hurt.

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Yes, for just for sex. My understanding is women are more forgiving of that sort of cheating. But would be very unhappy if a relationship developed. The opposite may be true for men? And yes, I should just confess and get it over with. What would you hosts think if your husband spent money on women in here?

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Of course I would NOT be happy if he spent money on watching other girls getting naked to simply check the presence of his sexual drive. It sounds like a plain folly to me, sorry.

Also I equally find strange the women who claim that their sexual drive has mysteriously waned and that's why they wouldn't have sex with their husbands for years. There can be short pauses when you are not in the mood-...but years?

As to the money spent on videos-I don't have much money myself. I would not agree with the absence of sex and money+ cheating in my marriage.
That's why I stay slim, sexy, smart, good-looking and try to be more independent:)

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well, I think its normal to have some nice fantasies here. I am single, so I didn't have this temptation when I was married (divorced over 10+ years now). As long as your not meeting hosts, sending them money, etc. I think you are on solid ground...its the new wanking medium of the 21st century...just wait for the 3D cams and holograms soon!! lol

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RE: INTERESTING!!!

After an operation, I spent 8 weeks as a vegetarian. Problem, I lost my muscular strength.

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Sounds like you weren't getting the protein you needed. Make sure you have the right amounts of legumes and grains to form complete proteins. Protein intake is a challenge for the strict vegetarian.

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I have heard it said, "You are what you eat." Well, cows eat grass, so that makes them grass. Grass is a vegetation. So when I eat cow meat, i'm being a vegetarian.. That's how I figure it, anyway. :)

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lol. Good reasoning. My ex gf is the exception that proves the rule. When she eats cow she is a cow. In fact even when she doesn't eat cow ahe is a cow :P

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If I'm going to be a pussy I would rather it be because I ate your *blush* :)

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as a vegan vegetarian protein replacement can be a problem. Raw, depends on what is raw. Many foods from the sea are tastier raw and healthy enough to eat. )
Land animals eaten raw can kill you. (

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Especially if they are so raw they are still alive :D.

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Raw seafood is ok if it is not something that lives on the sea floor such as oysters and clams. Shellfish can carry some very nasty diseases that you can get when eating them raw. A doctor near me became paralyzed from eating contaminated raw oysters and could no longer be a surgeon. High price to pay for a meal.

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There seems to be an increasing awareness of how important nutrition is, if not necessarily an increase in vegetarianism. Eliminating processed foods (and encouraging raw foods and fermented foods), getting rid of sugar and gluten, eating organic, grass-fed beef... these are all encouraging trends in the USA. I don't believe in vegetarianism, but I do believe in eating healthy.

Avr0ra... tantric yoga? very interesting. You are one of the most fascinating hosts I know.

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I fully support womb-building and encourage you in all aspects of it :))

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With people here from all over the world, it's a great place to ask :)

Anyway, short answer: I'm a meat eater, but all indications I've ever heard, are that both yoga and vegitarianism will give you a healthier life. Simple as that.

So why not me? Of course, it's personal choice; pretty much everyone knows that smoking is Not good for you, but plenty of people still do it. Also, even being a vegitarian, you have to do it correctly. I know a fellow who is a vegitarian and is horribly overweight at about 300 lbs. Why? Because as he says: "There ain't no meat in potato chips" lol. True story. Extreme situation, but it makes the point.

Anyway, good luck with this, the majority of info is that it's a good way to go, if you decide to; you just have to do it right.

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I pretty much have given up meat unless someone serves it to me when I am a guest at their home. I know quite a few vegetarians where I live in the US and many of the local restaurants usually have a vegetarian meal available as well. Lots of good choices for protein that do not involve meat are also available. My sense is that more and more people are decreasing the amount of meat they eat, although I am sure we are still in the minority.

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There are those who contend that proteins derived from vegetable sources are lacking in some essential nutrients, and that fats from high quality dairy (try raw milk sometime) are very beneficial. At the same time, it's best to avoid meats that come out of farm factories full of chemicals and antibiotics. And don't get me started on fast food.

So I would say I am almost vegetarian. I do eat meat, but I stick with high quality sources... organic, grass-fed, free-range, whatever... and that admittedly is more expensive, so I don't eat much of it.

As you say, we are very fortunate to have a lot of good choices.

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My parents and their neighbors own farms so I guess I am spoiled with meat that has no antibiotics or hormones added and they are not overly fattened as most that are sold at market. Also I have a freezer filled with venison, quail, fish, turkey, duck and rabbit that are all from the wild. As for vegetables I have my own garden with non hybrid heirloom tomatoes, sweet potatoes, green beans, lettuce, carrots, and new this year watermelon and cantaloupe. Then my mother cans enough green beans, corn, and tomatoes to last all winter. Fresh is best, and balanced between meat and vegetables is good also.

What I have trouble cutting back on though is bread, just love it, but need less of it. And as for raw milk, I lived on that as a kid, we had our own milk cow and had fresh milk and butter every day, though too much milk can give you a belly worse than beer can lol.

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meat is the way to go I think. my sister who doesnt like meat cant stop eating it when I bake it because her body asks for it. I can focus better when I eat meat and I feel better too. well cacao beans and organic peanut butter have the same effect. i eat eggs almost daily for the same reason. theyve got choline.
meat has phosphatidylserine and so on.
the white beans are great as well for keeping slim and happy.
I try to stay away from dairy, most grains, corn. I dont trust the new theory that popcorn has lots of antioxidants. seems its like when they came out with the bottled water cause there was a public debate about Coca Cola.

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I would eat eggs but they seem to not like me so much. Meat is great, as long as you get the lean cuts, not that the fat is so bad for you, but that it takes all the added hormones to really fatten up the livestock. I eat a lot of fresh caught fish from small streams, much better than the farm raised fish you get in most stores. Wild quail is also very much better than any chicken you can find.

Another thing you should try when cooking meat, is to season it with a small amount of cinnamon. It sounds strange to use it, but it really is quite good if you don't use too much, and cinnamon is very healthy for you too.

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Yes I can put radishes in my ass for you - come on my video!

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FairyBarbie86 - warning!

Pay attention with this host, she fools you: she invites you from her non-adult session to her session in "a little shy"-categorie where she charges a very high price but doesnt show anything!
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You are making assumptions as much as he his.

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You're not supposed to notice that :D

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This is the definition of "a little shy". As you can see, "you can expect something more than just chatting"!
Sometimes she is shy, but sometimes she's not! There are no adult restrictions in this category. You can expect something more than just chatting - a strip show, some soft core action, or more depending on how shy the Chathost is feeling! But, remember, these girls are a little shy, so be prepared for some extra sweet talk to warm them up. Please be respectful of the Chathost's preferences and double check her profile prior to entering video chat.

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It's very misleading. You can expect all you want, but the host is not required to do more than chat even in 121.

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Wallet or Man

I have been for about a year, made lots of friends here, had lots of fun and gotten to know alot about them. I know how things work for the hosts here and some do wants necessary to keep members in there video rooms.
As of lately, someone I thought i knew has just been using me as a cash cow. Just saying what i need to hear. These are things I am well aware of but still from soneone you have been thinking as a friend.
Question is: Has anyone here felt like their treated more as a piece of cash then a person.
Not to upset, just hurt by it from someone i know [sad face] :( :(
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a simple test is to tell your host "friends" that you have cancelled your account here and see after 2 months which of those still talk to you and without them mentioning how they miss our videos.

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i get your sarcasm but in your red mist you seem to have missed the point. I am still friends with my ex boss and we meet up for drinks from time to time and strangely enough no money passes hands, i.e during our time working together we became "real" friends and he doesn't need to pay me any more for us to stay friends, yes obviously another boss now pays me to do work for him and I wouldn't work for free. Do you see the subtle difference now?

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Hey now, I for one am always glad to see posts from Lillie here; as many as she wants. She's been here for several years, she's sharp, her post are very thoughtful, extremely honest and objective, and funny as well.

And no, I'm not one of her fan boys; never even visited her since our schedules rarely mesh, but some day I will; I just appreciate what she has to say.

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i thought anyone could post a reply to any post here. if we want to stay with who has the appropriate right to post, then your post is out of order also, because neither elle, nor Rock, nor Lillie were replying to you.

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i do not recall ever saying i have stayed friends with each and every person i've worked with. i am not judging whether cc is a place simply for business relations or a place where humans meet and therefore human emotions evolve. I am replying to the OP that there is a simple test he can use to eliminate any doubt for approx 90% of his host "friends", after which the hosts will either; stop contacting him, continue to contact him but ask when he is returning to their video, continue to contact him without mentioning their video room. Personally i don't chase or pester hosts, if they continue to contact me and we swap jokes or links then i take it they are a internet friend at least, if they no longer contact me then that is fine.

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wake up and smell the coffee my friend, most if not all the girls here use this site to build extra income, its their job, and they will say to you everything you want to hear.
I know of one girl that throws compliments at me even though I know I am not much to look at, it makes me feel good, but at the end of the day its a fantasy for us viewers.

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Yes, people need to recognise this. Often the hosts see the men here as some kind of second class citizen too. Like you wouldn't be on a site like this unless you were some kind of disordered pervert. Obviously they're not going to tell you this.

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This is a business. Period!

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I can see what you are saying but even though you are a host yourself, chances are I've actually talked to more hosts over the years than you have :))).

I understand what you mean about it not being a real friendship, but the fact is, some hosts try to give the impression that it is. The sexual fantasy goes in favor of something apparently more "real", but they are still just seeing the members as an idiot to be exploited for money.

In my experience, nearly all hosts dehumanize the viewer in their own mind to achieve the end goal, which is more cash, holidays, cars...whatever else.

No one should look for friendship here. That's bull****.

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Fortunately, I've never been seriously burnt because, even in my younger days, I figured out what was really going on.

You're putting many things together. No one is begrudging hosts from making money. It's just better to do it without the lies and deception. If a host wants to do this, go ahead, but it makes her nothing more than a low down scam artist. If she can live with that, I wouldn't want to live inside her mind :)

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I think what she's saying is that there are 'lies and deception' as you call it and there's fantasy and imagination, which is a service we're here to provide or consume - and if you've encountered the former that's too bad, but most hosts she's encountered are set on providing (and being paid appropriately) for the latter. Which is why they're here at all.

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Some hosts on this site and others make enormous amounts of money. Some make a few hundred dollars if they are lucky. I realise this.

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You have to make coffee for me, I can stay awake! :P

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I like the reversal. That's a good new thread maybe - have we done that one already -
Who tells more lies in the average vid or textchat - Host or Viewer?

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I never cease to be amazed by people. They are actually glad that you tell them that you only speak to them because they are paying you.

If they told me they are only getting naked because I am paying them I could live with that but not the chatting. Although I do very little chatting anyway.

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Tony, took me 3 years to realise that with a host. Was a great shock but, I'm a grown man so my fault.

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feel like a wallet, all the time..

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shytony--just ask them to married you from the beginning, then you will know before hand if they will be your friend for awhile, if they give you the run around or say no, then it's time to move on-good topic discussion by the way, enjoying reading some of the comments and some I didn't (LMAO)

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Its natural for a man to feel like a wallet, otherwise they would feel like a crap...So you are lucky! Be proud of yourself! Plus You are not wearing those girl`s shoes and the financial world is very cruel nowadays. Do not blame her too much...but thank her for the feeling she gave you in the past!...xoxo

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i have got few friends here, who are not members anymore.

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Well my life did end here at this site after meet the love of my life from Russia, all was ended up at wallet man. All that matters was my money and good bye- Russia men cant support they women so wome are here and get money from us and sad it is

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Mistress Alexya

i would just like to say a few words about Mistress Alexya and how she owns me and my cum. I have never seen a more Beautiful, Elegant Goddess in my life. She is Amazing. As soon as she lights up that cigarette my brain turns to mush. My pride goes out the window and suddenly I am hers to command. The Goddess humiliates and degrades me so badly but for some reason it feels soooo good. She is Perfect and i'm so glad that i have the privilege to be her dog.
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Lmfao

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glad to hear it, keep us informed how that goes.

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It always amazes me what some people get turned on by.

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Sounds great!

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how she owns you and your cum-hmm are you serious are making a joke

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Very nice!:)

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i dare anyone that doesnt believe me to step into a session with Mistress Alexya. You will come out with your tail between your legs.

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This is available for puppies like u slave! thx for congrats Lillie, this fucking slave, deserves his destiny , which is to be humiliated and used for women wealth.

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Lesson learned

Don't trust a host. Not even after 5 years.
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care to name her?

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C'mon, do not generalize.Never trust a member.Not even after 5 minutes.
Do not trust anyone.Not even after a lifetime.LOL.

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RE: Lesson learned

Oh yeah. That worked SO well the last time...

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Yeah it's pretty amazing. Even when you think you can trust someone, they turn out just to be playing a more elaborate game.

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And i'm NOT a trusting person, believe me...

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is an overrated virtue, it puts responsibilty for your feelings onto someone else...never trust anyone then you will never be disappointed, just be glad if things turn out well between you.

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hmm--some host you can trust-sorry if it didn't work out

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RE: Lesson learned

I don't agree at all. Trust is the foundation of all human relationships in one way or another.

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RE: Lesson learned

That's a little too nihilist for me, sorry.

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RE: Lesson learned

Oh, she got a boob job, did she?

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I have missed you too-boobs look great

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ROFLMAO! No further comment!

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RE: Lesson learned

:-) Glad you're not carrying a grudge then.

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What exactly do you mean by 'trust'? I keep reading this here about not trusting hosts or members. They say they do one thing but do another? Things change, feelings change. This site is for adults and it's commercial so hosts and members obviously have different aims here. You need to grow up and stop blaming others for your own mistakes and foolish naivety.

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Now thats being a growup folks.
Preach on my brothers

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That's not totally the issue. Some hosts prey on members' "foolishness and naivete." Some hosts take advantage of members' loneliness, or need for more significant relationship, and lead them into thinking there is something more than just a business relationship. Is it foolish and naive on the part of the members? Probably yes, most of the time, though certainly there are legitimate relationships that develop here from time to time. However, it is just as unscrupulous to feed a member's false sense of relationship with promises of love, when all it is for them is a shrewd business practice that guarantees them more income.

Altadena's comment is vague enough to be about anything. Who really knows -- other than Altadena -- what he is referring to in "trusting"? Maybe it is the promise of a relationship that isn't there. Maybe it's a long time host not willing to perform the way he wants her to perform. Maybe it's that she got a boob job and ruined her natural tits, as "IveMissedU" suggests. But until he says, who knows?

There are two sides to every coin, "Exasperated." It's not all -- or always -- the fault of the member.

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RE: Lesson learned

just business)don't be naive)

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RE: Lesson learned

Tony made a good point, my comments apply to me also. )))

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Boy, that boob job thing is really on your mind, huh?

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well, i had to make sure all the bases were covered. :) and if you see, i was for most part supportive of you. Besides I'd all but forgotten it until someone else brought it back up.

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That is a little presumptuous of you, to just assume it was all naivete and assumptions on my part. Maybe I believed too much, but is that naive? Really? Always?

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Well, I wanna touch, feel and see what is there in you :) BUT you are there, I am here. And no matter how much I may want it, dream it, fantasize it, it's not likely to change. Ahh, the Frenchman in me says with a sigh, "C'est la vie!" :)

Disclaimer: However, if things ever do change, be sure to let me know :D lol

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Or perhaps this was the one I didn't see coming because it was after 5 years of what I thought was trust.

I may be judging her too harshly. But the trust is gone.

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It sucks when your trust is screwed with. Yes this is a pay site but after you have been talking to someone for a number of years, you really do not expect them to be screwing you over and it is unfair for people to be quick to jump on you and call you naive.

I have trusted members, even after knowing them for a long time (#of yrs), and I too was made a fool of, yes I was naive enough to think that if you know someone for a number of years that they were being honest, but unfortunately I was wrong, now I do not trust anything that comes out of a members mouth, especially when he says "you are the only one I see" or "I really like you and want to build a relationship with you" or the famous one "I love you"....and the whole time these same things were being said to other hosts too....(just like many members don't believe what hosts say).

It has been a hard lesson to learn. No i did not come here looking for a relationship and I have never made a promised I could not keep, nor have I tried to mislead people. Although there are members that say be honest with them, because trust is important to them, most who say this only want honesty when it benefits them. and those who say fake it..if you have to because I am paying, well same thing, if you do fake it they get angry and call you a fake because you did not fake it the way they wanted.

Bottom line is ...yes this is a paid site...but it there are those members and hosts who have found a friendship and more and taken it off of here. But again taking it off here thinking it is more one has to be careful too...because it could be just a member trying for free virtual sex or a host trying to make money.

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Well said. And thanks for mentioning the other side of the coin too, something I failed to do and which made my original post very one-sided.

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lillie I have to come out.. Im a fan of yours :))

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RE: how to behave ??

Maybe he was not a slave you wished him to be and not in SPH. Maybe he was just a normal guy?

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Question for German hosts or members

Can you please give me the German translation of "All your memories play at once. All your memories and all your fears"?
Thanks
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RE: Question for German hosts or members

I am not a native German-speaker but I can try.:
"Alle deine Erinnerungen spielen auf einmal. Alle deine Erinnerungen und Ängste." maybe it's not very poetic lol

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Thank you. It's from my favorite miniseries & I read on a forum that the English translation was wrong. But according to your translation back into German, it is accurate

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omg...A password protected open session at $10.00 per minute.
I've lived too long
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RE: ?

It's not that uncommon, especially at competition time, i've seen many girls do it.

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seems to me the member forgot the real reason to come here , and its not to play games at $10 a minute

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to act like idiots & make fools of ourselves in comm? :--)

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Oh I see. Thanks. I want to live again!

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RE: ?

There members here that only talk and take part in every contest to help their favorites. It happens more than you may think.

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seems that they did not win even

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RE: ?

They have money to burn. I don't.

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Good to see some new host winners and not the same old names that I can recite in my sleep.
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Learn chinese in 5 minutes !

English-Chinese Translation

That's not right ........................ ....Sum Ting Wong
Are you harboring a fugitive?.......... Hu Yu Hai Ding
See me ASAP...............................Kum Hia Nao
Stupid Man.................................. .Dum Fuk
Small Horse................................. Tai Ni Po Ni
It's very dark in here .................... ..Wao So Dim
I thought you were on a diet ........ ..Wai Yu Mun Ching?
This is a tow away zone ............... No Pah King
Our meeting is scheduled for next week ... Wai Yu Kum Nao?
Staying out of sight .......................Lei Ying Lo
He's cleaning his automobile .........Wa Shing Ka
Your body odor is offensive ........... Yu Stin Ki Pu
Great .......................................... Fa Kin Su Pah
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RE: joke 1 more

Two young guys were picked up by the cops for smoking dope and appeared in court before the judge. The judge said, "You seem like nice young men, and I'd like to give you a second chance rather than jail time. I want you to go out this weekend and try to show others the evils of drug use and get them to give up drugs forever. I'll see you back in court Monday."
Monday, the two guys were in court, and the judge said to the first one,
"How did you do over the weekend?"
"Well, your honour, I persuaded 17 people to give up drugs forever."
"Seventeen people? That's wonderful. What did you tell them?"
"I used a diagram, your honour. I drew two circles (o, o) and told them the big circle is your brain before drugs and the small circle is your brain after drugs."
"That's admirable," said the judge. "And you, how did you do?" the judge said to the second boy.
"Well, your honour, I persuaded 156 people to give up drugs forever."
"156 people! That's amazing! How did you manage to do that?"
"Well, I used a similar approach. I also used two circles (o, o). I pointed to the small circle and said, 'This is your arsehole before prison...

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