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Alan, Thank you for the reply. I saw it yesterday in fact, and had started to reply, but was interrupted. I saved what I had written and will send it shortly. There's lots to talk about!

Alan,

You've read all of Chandler's novels? Wow, I'm impressed! A friend of mine has done likewise and he often humorously remarks when he is in a jam and must make a tough decision, “What would Marlow do?” Lol! Then you are no doubt familiar with the Noir film, "Double Indemnity," ---another Chandler based Noir. Thinking on Edgar G. Robinson in that film made me also think about "Woman in the Window,"--also a good film, but a notch below others we've mentioned.

Yes, I have seen “The Killers” with Burt Lancaster. I liked it a lot. (It has a great music score too by Rosza. Even so, among the Hollywood studio composers, none could equal Bernard Herrmann!—of Hitchcock’s “Psycho” fame!) There are many noir films that are great. I went through a period when I rented one after another just to get a feel for the genre. Most of the titles escape me. One film, whose title escapes me, made me reevaluate my estimation of Lucille Ball, whom I only knew as Lucy in the inane TV sitcom “I Love Lucy.” Whatever the film was, she played a great ‘femme fatale.’ Then there are films whose dialogue seems to have been written as a kind of self-parody of the genre. One of my favorite lines---can’t remember the film, "Blue Dahlia” maybe?---has a scene where a woman pulls a gun on some guy. Afterwards he reports this to his buddy saying, “That dame pulled a rod on me!” To which his buddy responds, “A dame with a rod is like a guy with a knitting needle.” I was on the floor laughing! (I’m sure that line would go over well with feminist gun enthusiasts!)

Do you know the film, “Detour?” It has a cult following. It was done in ’45 and directed by Edgar G. Ulmer who was, I believe, an Austrian born immigrant to the US. It’s a sort of American Odyssey, with the lead actor, Tom Neal, crossing the American continent in a car and in the course of his journey commits murder. (A remarkable footnote to the movie is that later Tom Neal would commit murder in real life!)

I’m not sufficiently knowledgeable about what all the criteria are for a film to be classified as Noir. I gather low budget (hence creative use of minimal lighting), an element of the sinister and the hard-bitten, etc. But I think “Night of the Hunter” qualifies and is one of my favorites. And there are few who could play a more sinister character than Robert Mitchum. The film is also interesting because it is the only film actor Charles Laughton directed and it shows a debt to the German Expressionist filmmakers of the 20’s.

Off the top of my head, other favorites include “The Maltese Falcon,” “A Touch of Evil.” “The Third Man,” Hitchcock’s “Strangers on a Train.” And since I have a friend who has collected 16 mm films for over forty years--- and who is the consummate fan of actor John Garfield---I can’t leave out, “The Postman Always Rings Twice.”

I’m anxious to hear more of your thoughts and get some of your recommendations! Cheers!

Hi.. Thanks for your long and interesting reply. I'm afraid this will be rather short as I have to leave for work soon. I'm glad you mentioned "The Maltese Falcon", one of my all time favourites with an impeccable cast of Humphry Bogart, Mary Astor, Sidney Greenstreet, Peter Lorre and Elisha Cook Jr. Directed by John Houston, son of Walter Houston. Can I just contradict you on one point !! "Double Indemnity" was based on a book by James L Cain and directed by Billy Wilder.
Before I go, have you seen Billy Wilder's "Sunset Boulevard " with Gloria Swanson and William Holden ? If not, please put it on your must see list, it's a wonderful film and I'm sure you'll enjoy it. For a bit of fun can you name all the actors who have played Philip Marlowe ? Will be in touch again soon with more noir recommendations. Cheers....Alan

Alan, Hi. Thanks for the correction about Double Indemnity. Looking it up, I see Chandler wrote the screenplay based on the Cain novel. I mistakenly thought it was based on a Chandler novel.

I'll put Sunset Boulevard on my list. Thanks.

Hi...Here are a few Noir recommendations. Mostly from the 40s, with the odd one from the early 50s.

"Laura"
"Pick Up On South Street"
"Key Largo"
"Murder My Sweet"
"The Asphalt Jungle" (with the early Monroe)
"This Gun For Hire"
"The Glass Key"
"D.O.A." (the first 40s version)
"Kiss of Death"
"Criss Cross"
"In a Lonely Place"
"The Big Steal"
"CITIZEN KANE... (film making at it's very best !!!)

Some modern Noir.
"Body Heat" (watch Kathleen Turner sizzle !!!)
"Chinatown"
"The Last Seduction"
"Blood Simple"

Well, that should keep you going for a bit. I'm sure I've missed a few but will let ou know if any more come to mind.
Back to David Lynch. I hate to admit it but I really was baffled by "Lost Highway". Have you seen it ? If so, any ideas ?

Cheers.... Alan

Thanks for the recs. Alan. Some great choices. I've seen 10 out of the 13 in your first list---all except, The Glass Key, In a Lonely Place and The Big Steal. I like Widmark. He plays a very effective sinister character, but not of the Robert Mitchum variety. Widmark is a frightening sadistic sociopath type that takes glee in hurting people. His laugh alone speaks volumes. The Ladd/lake Team was also good and I loved Jaffee in Asphalt Jungle. As for Citizen Kane, what can I say? Some think this might be the greatest American film. (I also loved Wells as actor in Touch of Evil. They reworked the beginning of that film, btw ---dialogue and music)

On your second list, I've seen 2 out the 4: Chinatown and Blood Simple. I like the Cohn Brothers.

You didn't tell me if you've seen the 7 films I mentioned. I assume you've seen most, but I especially wondered about Night of the Hunter and Detour.

I don't know the Lynch film of which you speak. Why did it perplex you?

Speaking of directors, what do you think of Tarantino? I'll wait to hear what you think before I share my opinion.

Three other recommendations: Do you know 1) "Little Caesar" ('30) with Edw. G. Robinson? 2) Original "Cape Fear" ('66)? and Polanski's "Frantic?" ('88). I used to live in Paris and much of that film was shot in the 16th arrondisement, where I lived (btw, as was Last Tango in Paris---also right near the tunnel where Lady Di 'bought the farm.’)

why do you need to know this? need to know the best way to insult someone here?

As the words have become pretty much interchangeable, in my opinion they are probably both as offensive as each other.However if I was forced to choose one and not sit on the fence I would choose whore as the most offensive purely because slut sounds nicer.

Slut status is cool!!! Whore, seems more degrading...

A whore does things for MONEY... a SLUT typically does things for reasons other than MONEY... At least a WHORE knows why she is doing what she does... My guess is that most would consider a WHORE worse... maybe all males are sluts by my definition!

Why does it have to be a bad thing? I wouldn't mind having a few sluts and whores a neighbors, makes for some entertainment.
Always look on the bright side of life :D

...as neighbors, but presumably not as a wife, right? lol!

Some terms seem more insulting. Much of it has to do with who the clientele are in the socio-economic scale. At the lowest end, those of the oldest profession are called "ho-s", whereas those whose clients are the wealthy elite are called "courtesans."

But as the Bard said, "A rose by any other name is still a rose." And I guess that's the point of the story about a man who asks a well-heeled woman, "Madam, will you sleep with me for $50,000?" "For $50,000, why yes I will," she replied." "How about $50?," he asks. Shocked and unable to contain her indignation she replies sharply, "Sir, just what do you think I am?!!" "Madam," he replies without hesitation, "that has already been established. Now we are simply quibbling over the price." :)

What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet.

Lol! I knew someone would call me on the paraphrase! My copy of Romeo & Juliet was within arm's reach too, but I was too lazy to look it up. "My bad!" (Was that the the Bard or Shaq who said that? lol!)

Not to want to quibble too much on an already well made point but could you in future refer to 'a' man as being 'the' man, Sir Winston Leonard Spencer-Churchill. Not only would it do justice to the quote but also brings alive a bit more some of history's, oft looked on as being kind dry, real world heros/characters.

Just a thought :)

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TNT, Was it Churchill who told that story? I thought it was George Bernard Shaw. Come to think of it, it sounds more like something Churchill would have said. And to think that I failed to attribute it to "the" man would no doubt irritate Churchill. I can imagine him saying, as he reportedly did when a reporter accused him of butchering the English language by ending a sentence with a preposition, "This is something up with which I will not put." lol!

I agree history could certainly stand an infusion of real-life narrative as an antidote to the dry, wooden recitation of names and dates. Do you know the French historian, the late Fernand Braudel? He certainly made a contribution to correct this fault of academic history by painting a portrait of the conditions of life for people from every economic strata, not just those of monarchs and conquering warriors.

Ahh well that is always a valiant effort for any scholar but there is some truth in the believe that history is oft written by the victors and so long as there are people with power, money, influence to capture the imagination I would expect it to be ever so. I just like to see some of history's characters on a more real life footing. And knowing that Churchill was a drinker, a smoker and a ladies man and still inspired so many people, gives hope for us all , wouldn't you agree ;)

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I agree entirely. When we learn of the human side of an historical figure, they come alive---warts and all---and cease being these two dimensional characters.

Churhill was unapologetic about the copious amounts of brandy he consumed. To a moralistic observer he replied, "I have taken more from brandy than brandy has taken from me."

Dictionaries are good for these things, though of course, it depends on the opinion of the person to whom you refer.

The terms are interchangeable to a certain extent, though slut can refer to a slovenly woman only, or one who is promiscuous. Whore mostly refers to promiscuity, though mostly when it's for money. If you think lots of sex with different people is fine, but if it's for money, that's not cool, then whore would be "worse" to you.

whore does it because she is told to. Usually by a pimp. Slut does it for her personal gratification

she's happy, are you?

yes!!!

happy for u

me too!!!

well .. here in cc u will have most of the girl saying "yes" always and just ready to serve u compliment everytime for some reason that u can easily understand... i guess gortensia its one of the few that act differently and so of course some migth not like it , especially thsoe who want a girl to do every possible desire when "ordered" . we love gortensia or we hate her i guess there is no middle with her ... personally i know my side but can understand the opposite .

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Don't love her...Don't hate her... one too many questions for me tho :)

Oh well, god bless her

Gorty is Gorty, love her or loathe her. But what abt freeda's new pics?

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it's nice to have a host that is not going to give you all you want and is going to say what she thinks and feels. i love seeing gorty. you never know what you're going to get, but that's part of the appeal of the rollercoaster called Gorty. i wouldn't want to change her.

u said it well bro , second u totally

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I don't get the sense that Gorty is unhappy or mad at the world, but whatever her disposition to the world, this Forum should not serve as a referendum on her state of mind.

I frequently disagree with Gorty, but I applaud her for taking exception to the status quo. She's not afraid of controversey, but she doesn't cultivate it. She has the courage, however, to raise issues that others frequently avoid. What's more, she will offer a reasoned argument in support of her position and she makes a sincere effort to be fair minded, never resorting to histrionics in lieu of reason.

yeah sure - irritates the hell outa people :-)

ditto

Nope, too busy living my life to ponder the Russian host and their habits. Much more important stuff to deal with than hosr gossiping about others.

You're generalizing. Some hosts will not say a word about their co-workers. Others may gossip.

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I like my balls tied & my anus dominated :-))

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Will you promise to dominate me, tie my balls so they are painful, and make me probe my anus with a pogo stick?

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I am all yours for as much pain and time as you wish :-))

Nearly everyone is dominated or dominates in everyday behavior. Few are the relationships---especially in marriage---where each party fully respects the freedom and desires of the other. But all of this occurs on a psychological and emotional level.

The whole BDSM--Master/Slave thing is simply an infantile manifestation of this natural human tendency acted out in ways that are decidedly laughable, but at the same time pathological. The "lifestyle"--as it is called with near reverential seriousness by its practitioners--is made more complex when elements of obsessiveness and delusional mania are also present. One can observe the self-appointed "Masters" who make the claim of some transcendental wisdom and who offer their services (for a fee of course!) as gurus or divine-like figures.

I don't believe that any experience of being dominated or dominating is good. That being the case, there is no "best" experience. One could only speak of a "worst" experience. As the German philosopher, Hegel (who influenced Martin Luther King) said, "None is free, until all are free."

Agree with u up to one point: is not pathological. The BDSM games are just another form of making the sexual life more out of ordinary.

If something is not our cup of tea, is better not to start judging ;)

G., I suppose one might argue that there are some who practice a relatively benign form of this, and not find anything pathological---or at least not acutely so. However, I don't see how anyone viewing the matter dispassionately could regard, for example, someone submitting to having a tennis ball inserted in one's mouth, being bound,blindfolded and submitting to a physical whipping causing pain and observable physical injury to the body could make the case that there is nothing pathological in this. It seems to me any mortification of the flesh, done by saints (so-called) or sinners (so-called) is man against himself. It is self-destructive behavior both physically and psychologically.

I agree with the general notion, 'each to his own taste'. I have no personal quarrel with anyone in regard of his behavior if it does not injure me or the society in which we live. I would not presume to judge anyone individually and shake my finger in his face. But just as I can arrive at a judgement that smoking cigarettes is bad without going about issuing personal condemnations, I can---as we all do---judge a thing to be good or bad. And my judgement is that the BDSM-Master/Slave thing is bad. It is not life affirming. It is not neutral. It is life destroying because its aim is to denigrate, humiliate and at times inflict physical pain on another human being, and that---in my judgement---is wrong.

is you practice domination.verbal domination!! LMAO!!

No. I read and welcome the opinions of others. That is the basis for a good discussion. When a question is posed, I try to answer it to the best of my ability. I make what I think to be a reasoned argument for my opinion. When responding to another participant in the thread, I try to fairly evaluate his or her opinion and tell this person why I agree or disagree. Of course, sometimes we are just cracking up about someone's good joke and we simply communicate a friendly, "Good one! Lol!"

its not what you say,its the way you say it.

i see wat u is sayin' dude.. may be i shud submit to bein re-ejucated.

(On a serious note, I get your point. But please understand, I'm an "old fart" and it's difficult to adapt to an idiom like chat-speak. It's difficult enough to try to converse with one sentence throw-away lines, but I cannot bring myself to write "you" as "u" or "great" as "g8." I am not saying shorthand precludes clear expression or that longhand guarantees it. It's simply part and partial of a larger syndrome of careless and murky writing, and murky writing makes for murky thinking. Aiming to simplify is a worthy goal and I hope--whomever thou might be today--that my efforts will meet with your every approval, so that my words never give thee or anyone the impression that I am trying to "dominate" with words and meet with your disapproval, whose judgement alone is final word. Wherefore, I implore thee for one last chance to demonstrate my devotion to your desires and yours alone. Your Humble and Obedient Servant, Melomane.) :)

...you mostly display a mild form of narcissicsm.

Wow, and you are a psychiatrist too? Thanks for the unsolicited diagnosis Doc, and glad to know it's only a "mild" form. However laudable your intention, your indiscretion in revealing it here constitutes an egregious violation of doctor-patient confidentiality and undermines what little confidence I had in your ability. I'm tempted to report you to the Medical Ethics Board, but I'll let it pass this time. Plus, you change your name so often, I have no idea under what name you are licensed....ahhh You ARE licensed, aren't you Doc?

if you'll excuse me, I'd like to get back to the thread. Why not join in Doc? Come on! Don't just stand there on the side observing and criticizing others. Surely a student of psychiatry should have some valuable inights to share about the dynamics of BDSM.

hit home! :-)

you tripped over your tongue,again.it wasn't me. pot calling a kettle black when you start talking name changes.

Since CC allows people to assume different names, there are those who apparently delight in palying a childish game of hide and seek or who simply find it convenient to wear a different mask each time they come out of their hiding place, not to join in a discussion, but to snipe at someone. If you are not among them, I applaud you for your willingness to post only under your screen name. As for your suggestion that I am a "pot calling the kettle black in criticizing the name changers," you can believe me or not, but I have never posted under any other name but Melomane.

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Charlotte, You shouldn't think just because I let you get on top last night, that you're 'da boss.' now! Lol!

In all seriousness, I understand that in some things expressions like "One man's heaven is another man's hell...One man's wine is another man's vinegar," are apt descriptions. But one cannot apply this kind of relativism to things that in-and-of themselves do not admit of such relativism.

You say, “What u see as being life degrading, for others it is life fulfilling, with the minor difference that they feel fulfilled by receiving or giving pain.” MINOR difference? My dear, I think this is hardly a minor difference. It's the very thing that distinguishes one as true and the other false. The mere assertion that something is good does not make it so if it is not good in essence. The ancient Greeks had the notion that all things aimed toward some good, but people were often mistaken about what they thought was good. In every case, however, the final aim was happiness. People might disagree about particular “goods,” but each believed that their perceived good would conduce to their happiness---or we might say, to use your word here---fulfillment.

Given the universal human aim of happiness, can we say that any perceived good will be a means to that end, or will some goods prove successful and others not? Doesn’t the well-worn expression, “The road to hell is paved with good intentions” suggest not all paths that are thought good prove to be so? As such, there are certain identifiable elements in the BDSM—Master/Slave view that would suggest it is less likely to arrive at the desired aim of happiness and fulfillment. These elements, which distinguish it from those of the conventional path, do not constitute a “minor difference.” Rather they are the very things that mark it a false path, not an alternative route to the same end.

Can the mere assertion that degradation and/or the infliction of physical pain are fulfilling make them so? It’s empirically true that some people want to be humiliated and degraded and will often submit to such treatment at the hands of another who has the apparent desire to be the active agent of degradation. This might take on the form of the roles played in various BDSM—Master/Slave scenarios, or simply play out without the accouterments and props of formal BDSM theatre. It is not uncommon for people to ask sexual partners to urinate and/or defecate on them. So, the verbal insult, “Shit on you pal,” with its implied consummate act of degradation, is actually requested by some people. That a given desire or need is “fulfilled” does not make such actions “fulfilling” in the broader, spiritual sense of the word. The desire to degrade life---one’s own life or that of another---does not equate with the desire to affirm it. −1 ≠ + 1. The two desires are not relative and interchangeable. Both are desires, but the former is a perversion of the latter. The former is a mistaken path that will miss the mark; the latter is a correct one that will hit it.

Aristotle defined happiness as an “activity of the soul in conformity with virtue.” One can, without much difficulty, make the case that it is virtuous to care for and love someone. However, I cannot see how anyone could think there is anything at all virtuous in the desire to be shit upon or the desire to shit on someone. Anyone who says there is, is talking shit!

Do you consider yourself a virtuous man?

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I don't like writing lots either Charlotte so I will just say I agree with what you said :P

Dose your post mean that you are into BDSM ? :(

Melomane your post reminded me a bit of a guy I know who complains about people "smoking too much" even though he himself smokes. If I have understood your post correctly it sounds to me like you are saying that people who indulge in BDSM are deluding themselves that it is making them happy and fulfilled. In other words do it my way or you are wrong.

The only thing I will agree with you on is that the BDSM thing is definetely not for me.

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Charlotte as English is a strange language what you said still made sense. The "you" in this case not referring to Melomane directly but to the population in general. Someone whose English skills are better than mine could probably explain it better.

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verbosity tends to weaken an argument and 'methinks he protests too much!'

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Happy Easter

you too! enjoy your day

Visit comchat, the rest will work it's self out.

Well,good questions,but what about such side of character as envy? You said about it and I would like to add,that in spite of it,there is other side. Why should i tell to others how much i have? If i work and earn,doesnt it mean i have a right to keep it in secret?If i want i will tell about without any lows or smth like that. Or others will not able to sleep without knowing how much I earn?Is like to ask person,how often he/she eats, pee,etc. Its just not polite.And is just a dream still about perfect society,where all like each other without envy.etc. And really, why should I compare myself with others who,for example,earns more? Does it mean I m worse?or what? but all people have their own personality and money helps to live with comfort,not to feel yurself as personality. yes,to know about eachothers salaries is great in only one event and for only one person,no,not person,it called state. for state and states organizations as tax office is very good to know ur real salary. in other cases,dont think is necessary. i dont want to know how much others earn, and dont want to tell about my salary. it would not make my salary bigger,just all my enrgy would spend for envy and comparing. and is always possible to say how much person really earns,just looking at house,clothes,shops she/ he visits,etc. no need to know salary for it.

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Yes,i understood ur thoughts,and smth says me that we live in the same country:) And if it so, we both know,what will happen:) Our national character will never agree with some things:) And by the way, for teachers,doctors,ect,there is such thing as tariff rates or smth like that,so its not a problem to know how much they earn. Is free information. Course,i dont say about bribes. Same with our government, sometimes in mass media an information about their incomes appears . So, as we can see in our country this way what u talk about is applied:)
Happy easter to u too:)

I have never hid that I'm from Russia.As for tariff rates you told be very correct "or smth like that".They are not clear it's "something like that".And you know many tariffs serve for leading away our eyes.The tariffs rates and real salaries are very often too different.So if ppl pay taxes to government wouldn't be so bad to know how much state workers earn.And what they do for this. Not like "something like that".But particularly.
Though seems it's just a dream.

all i want to know is your bust size ?

In the USA the public sector salary ranges are public information.

For instance a trash man makes $25000 - $35000 depending on experience, time on the job and special circumstances. You won't know how much Jim Smith earns, but you know it is between those numbers.

(I made up the amount and the job.)

You need experience to be a trashman?

Sure, you have to start out with waste baskets, then move up to grabage cans and then you aready to move up to the big league...trash dumpsters ( I hope to be there someday...sigh a man an dream can't he?)

Accountant, Effective x number of years ago, the job title "Trashman" was banished from society's vocabulary. The correct term for those who perform this function is Sanitary Engineer.

No fine will be issued for this first offense. I'm sure you can understand how calling something what it really is threatens the security of the nation. Calling a spade a spade might just excite the passions of a lot of people and interfere with our "war on terror." So, we'd like to offer you this booklet with a list of all words that have been banned in one column and their replacements in the other.

I know we can count on your patriotism and cooperation. :)

Here in the UK salary matters are very transparent, at least in respect of civil servants (state workers). There are publicised national pay scales corresponding to each grade of worker, so somebody's basic salary can be determined with a good degree of accuracy. It is only in the private sector (in those industries where national pay bargaining is not the norm) where salaries can be negotiated on an individual basis, and one might have no idea what the person sitting next to you is earning.

Gorty. Good questions.

1) No. I do not think it is a good idea generally, though there are some justifiable exceptions. I would oppose any national mandate. (I'm from the US)

2) The publication of salaries of public servants is justified. If the tax payers are paying the salaries, they have a right to know how their tax dollars are being spent. The publication of salaries of top executives in publicly held corporations is also justified and is the current practice. Here I would be in favor of still more transparency as regards a forthright reporting of all the other perquisites senior executives receive (the numerous homes financed by the corporation, the private jet or helicopter, the private limo with chauffeur, the "golden parachute" severance clauses in their contracts, etc). As it is now, the law requires the salaries to be published, including the stock options, but this still paints a false picture. Also, in spite of reforms, the US Congress has still not required that stock options be included as a "cost" in their financial reports, which again allows the corporation to report the profits to be greater than they really are. Accounting for the cost of potentially exercised options would be a more truthful picture.

As regards "side effects" if this was a universal practice, you and others have already alluded to it: envy is the principal one. Money and sex have at least this in common: Some people are very open about it; others very private. But I see no justification for a private economic contract between employee and employer to be public knowledge when there is no third party interest.

You answer your own question.

"...[V]ery often this causes envy and anger...' so why even suggest doing it?

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"Which side effects can such decree cause?"

I answered.

i think it would be good for people in the public sector where their wages are paid through taxes and such like to have the salary shown so that the people paying for them can see what their money is being spent on. but i don't believe it would be good in the private sector as it could cause jealousy between workers who are earning different wages for the same jobs just because the boss decides to pay them differently.

What country are going to do this? North Korea? Cuba or China?

Frankly, I think these three would be among the last places it would happen. But we can be reasonably sure that the ruling elite have access to luxury goods (French wines & cheeses, Swiss watches, Italian shoes, German electronics, etc.) from the West and that same were paid for in hard Western currencies.

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Ok, but I'm just curious what country they want to impose this? Don't take offfense if I don;t directly answer you question. Thanks

mmm, no response. guess the country in question was fictious

....that this unnamed country is Russia. Since these studios are unlawful under Russian law, none of the studio bosses will be reporting their income, huh? lol!

you think everyone is tisme!!

a few posts below"that wud.."is said to be him too.

thought you were!!

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looks like you're posting as awol as well.

'That wud' has has made accusation.
Some post under his appellation
Is 'that wud' 'tisme?'
Or 'awol', 'tis thee?
For Gorty it's all a fixation

First line should read: 'That wud' has made accusation.

it's ok, guess we noticed :-)

Thanks Bill. I'm honored you took the time to comment. Maybe one of these days I'll attempt to write a sonnet. I like yours a lot--especially # 29. (Btw, Bill, do you think you could lend me a few duckets 'til next Tuesday?)

sure! Loved a short story about Shakespeare being brought into modern times - went to college, took an exam on himself but failed! Bit like Elvis coming 3rd in a sound-alike competition.

lol!...or the screenplay (with names changed) for Casa Blanca being rejected by an agent on the grounds that it wouldn't make it!

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have a great holiday! god bless

God bless you all. :-))

i agree with pie :)

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enjoy your day pie god bless u too!

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I'm awaiting my sms :-w

Blasphemy!!!! Are you the Anti-Christ prophesied to appear among us?!! lol!

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Feck the egg painting ,,,, im spanking the monkey today .......

if that was a bad mood i look forward to your good moods.you raise the spirits of those around you

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can i have your eggs gorty?

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Hmm I've never thought about it as you put it. You give me something to think about. I see what you are saying. No currency is---at any given instant---more expensive than another. It's value is what it is and the cost of purchasing another currency is not relevant if one's economic transactions are confined to one's own economy. (Of course there are some effects of the currency's relative worth to foreign curriencies in the price of imported goods. One pays more for French wines now in the US because the Euro is much stronger than the dollar)

I lived in France for two years ('99-'01) and about the time I left, one could buy a Euro for $0.80. Now, of course, it costs about $1.30. With a gain of over 60% at a time when the stock market was moving south, it would have been a great move to transfer some savings from the US to France. But that all comes under the heading of "Coulda, Shoulda, Woulda." lol!

The dollar will become stronger as soon as Bush vacates the white house

That day can't come soon enough for me. If Nancy Pelosi had the guts to do what she is sworn to uphold, Articles of Impeachment would be drawn. How sad that Clinton was impeached for lying about a blow job. (At least the hypocrite responsible for this gross miscarriage of justice, Tom Delay, has been sent packing and has been indicted.) But how cowardly and politically expedient for Pelosi to do nothing when Bush has so clearly lied to Congress and the American people and subverted the Constitution!

ur facts are wrong! Clinton was guilty of lieing under oath, Delay was innocent on all counts, Bush jr acted responsibly in cleaning up Colin Powell's and the UN's mess from Desert Storm (Schwartzkopf wanted to finish it at the time), and yes Pelosi is guilty of granting government favors to Corporations her husband is a major stakeholder in!

Are you high?

Really pushing the smoking gas mask aren't you hun?

gas mask? do you fart throughout your show?

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Smoke me :-))

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Another Pie!!!???

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lol cool post olga.

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We are not here alone!!!

As for lonely, a good host always makes you feel like you are with them!!!!

(the crowd roars) YYEEEAhhhh!!!
Next time try not to bombard us with your silly questions that seem to be asked for no reason or no goal but seemed to be asked for the sake of hearing yourself talk. There is a saying "The only stupid question is the one not asked", but I'm not so sure of that anymore.

If you think I give up, you are sadly mistaken :-)

are you talking to yourself?

you would think so wouldn't you

Nope, imposters :) I will only post early morning after 7 am :)

so do I ... it's always after 7am somewhere in the world

My gosh, I'm a living joke :(

UK time bitch

You sound alot like Tisme, always seeming to attrack a negative response, related?

yes, it's me. how did you figure it out?

I would rather kill myself then be compared to that punk

what a pathetic existence you have.2 forum posters,it seems,have got your number.my life isn't so bad compared to your's.thank you!!!

someone has too much time on their hands.

yes I agree, get out more :-))

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enjoy your day!

I can do it with one post

Yes and have sex at the same time.

You can do it with your continuous 6th grade like questions.

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Yes.

She is called my wife!

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Finding love happens here just as it can anywhere men and women meet together... be sure.... it depends on what each person desires in thier own hearts and when a man and woman start to walk the same path together, soon they find they will notice each other in life.

Our plans together? We meet twice already and continue to meet again, we talk online mostly in Yahoo every day usually for hours, we make plans for when we can meet again, we use the phone and SMS, all until she can come be with me. It takes times, you can not do all in one day! I do all I can to make her day more pleasant and enjoyable as she is my precious lady.

She is most precious and most important to me!

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Miss Charlotte, so you speak from experince? What was so difficult, for you or for him? I am waiting to hear your story...

Then send me an e-mail and I will tell you... I don't feel confortable talking about it in public... The end is somethig like this: me, all alone, in a country and city where I knew only him ... I made it, but the price wasn't worth it... At least not in my opinion...

Check your CCMail... as we already have exchanged some emails... Talk to you soon...

I agre, mny ppl lke 2 fnd shtcts 2 evytng.

I found my part the other day but now I've lost it again. It's very small!

We will meet this summer, hopefully. We have been together on line for six months, sms, yahoo and phone calls.

lol, "hopefully", there's a sob story waiting to happen.

your life?

It is a sad commentary on today's world that so many people are so cinical. It is possible to find love in many different places.... and who knows where that place might be. Sure this is not the usual or preferred place to seek it.... but it can happen here as well as anywhere else. Of course you have to invest the time and be aware ..... but that is true if you find someone next door or down the street. Love is possible anytime and anywhere when two people find themselves compatible. There are risks and doubts whenever love blooms. So geez,,,,,, give those that feel they have found it here a break.. have a little compassion and less sarcasm.

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I don't hate this job, I find it interesting. But I do have my moments when I get very pissed off and then I just don't stay online.
If I would hate it I couldn't do it with a smile on my face. I would just look for another job.

naaa, I'd just move into a category where I can humilate and degrade members and still get paid to do it.

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As I read these answers... be sure of one thing.. even for hosts who say they are \"in love\".... it is ALL ABOUT MONEY! they just don\'t need to hate thier work as much.... lol

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I'm sure I spoke to her in chat last week - very pretty, very nice :-)

she gone about 2 weeks:(

her light went out

your's was never on.

how do you know? been peeking?