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Chathosts get 80% on CC instead of just 50% (or less on affiliates) when they refer a member and that member visits them.

good to know that she is getting 80 percent when i am with her.

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What happens to the money when that chat host leaves cc and the member continues to spend?

Can the host be re-designated?

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Earthling,

Several things you need to think about:

a) Does she feel the same for you as you do for her? If so, then the two of you need to have a discussion about what is or is not acceptable for when she is in a vid.

b) She is still a hostess here. Unless you are willing and able to completely support her and become her sole "customer" here, you need to accept that she will be with other men, doing possibly some very adult things while in vid.

c) She needs to pay attention to her members while they are in vid with her. You have to accept that you become secondary at that point. If she is in an open vid, she may be able to respond to you if she chooses to do so. If she is in 121, she can't without breaking all sorts of rules, since she is supposed to be in a private session.

If the feelings between you two are mutual, this isn't an insurmountable problem. You have to get over your jealousy or you will push her away. On the other hand, if she doesn't share your feelings, you risk losing a friendship and becoming a stalker.

if you are serious about ur post, u r in trouble. You need mentally to distance yourself from what she does in video. If you are a new member, this could be difficult, but in time, you should get used to it.... Kind of like dating a stripper.

In terms of her not typing to u while in video, members in video get angry when hosts do this when they know nobody else is with the host. It is bad for business. I suppose a simple hi or bye or pvt or vid would be nice but expecting anything more is wrong. And if you are always typing, even if just hi or bye, when she gets video, she will recognize this in time and get annoyed.

Her job is to strip and tease men. Do what that other guy said and support her 100% or get over it. You have no other choice unless you want to destroy the possiblity of a relationship.

by the way, the viewers to really worry about are the ones that don't ask her to strip.... She probably doesn't respect the ones that want to play nearly as much as the ones that don't ask her to play. Then these guys become her friends, and from there, who knows?

Sorry to say it, but you probably don't have the right personality to be with her. When dating a beautiful woman, one needs to accept that other men (who are basically all lustful pigs, like you and I), will always pay attention to her. When dating a stripper, an adult cam host, or even a masseuse, the acceptance needs to be even broader. Ask yourself this question ...and try to answer honestly...."If I supported her and she no longer worked here, could I accept the attention that her beauty and sexuality would attract from other men..without being jealous?" If the answer is an honest yes, then see if your feelings are returned. If no, get the hell out of Dodge before the shootout begins.

Ok, i'll bite...

It's because of crap like this that every time i start becoming too attached to a host i just prefer to vanish into thin air or at least take a long break from her. Even if i have no real feelings for her whatsoever.

It saves me from the future hassle and helps me remember what the site primary objective is.

Yes .... its pointless for you to continue ..... the chances are one day she and I will meet in vid and it will only break your heart when she dumps you :p

What about the other way around? I make hosts fall in love all the time, should they be so upset and jealous when I am just talking and flirting with other hosts?

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Made the same mistake myself once. I learned that falling for a host can turn this dreamland into a nightmare.

As far as I know, the only solution is to take a break from the host. I needed two months. Hopefully you need less.

Just my 2 cents.

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Thanks to everyone that replied, even wcw.
I would say that i am not in a position to pay her not to work and i have done that in the past and had my fingers burnt, the only time i would do that is when we are living together and anyway she likes her independence and work.
After taking a long hard look at myself and my situation i have decided to walk away from her even though i love her and before wcw steals her from me.
Thanks for the fish
TheEarthling

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fitnesskmy

I ammmmm- not much success thought - hehehehehhe!

Try me :) EyesCandy

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I prefer women who look like women, curvy soft and desirable !!!

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Like Caster Semenya .... the 800m girl they thought was a man?

If they take away her Gold Medal it would be a real kick in the balls for her

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20butterfly

she does look hot

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im always replying even if i disagree with author of letter;) anyway its question of politeness for me;)

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sure it would be nice to get replies,but you didn't send the mails to get replies.remember,in life there are no guarantees.when you give,it's because you want to,not because you expect to receive.if you do get a reply,consider it a bonus.also think of the amount of mail a host gets,then factor in the free text chatters,the vids etc & it's understandable how not all hosts reply :--)

tisme--why you confused people,, the answer is no--i have sent many ccmail and even type things in thier profile forum, if i dont get any answers i dont video them anymore

unc the answer is no to which of the 4 questions,all,or some or...& is the no my answer or....seems you have joined me in the confusion :--)

It can be dissapointing when hosts ignore you. I rarely send mails to hosts but when I do, I expect a reply. It is simple courtesy.

Have you tried putting a question in your message to keep the conversation going? How about

"Do you like role plays?"

or

"Would it offend you if I tipped you $1,000,000?"

and how about he just express his opinion and girl at least thank him for compliments?!!!!! what if its a mail its not important? its not same as in real when you get compliment?! lol - i must be fool but will remain fool - i send mails when i have something to say to some viewer but try not too couse i dont like bothering man - and as for mails i receive - NO WAY I WOULD NOT ANSWER, even a rude one, if nothing else but to show Im not like them - yes u may call me fool; and lushmagners, u sweet if you sending mails to hosts expressing your opinion - if thats what you feel lilke, DO IT, at least youll see who of them is worth of your time and money and who is not/ muahaaa and all the best

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i adore Snowflake21, Olympiya, and Platina :P

I lurve a chip butty. :D

I love chocolate chips.....mmmmmmm

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What? You don't know what a chip gerl is??? Oh c'mon!! ....

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Well, of all the hosts I visit (in adult) the 3 with the best English skills (close to fluency) are all 50 cents a minute.

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yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!

i do on a date

maybe she means girl robots with computer chips

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you don't like cheap girls? cheap as in easy or cheap as in lower priced than you?

well of course she means "cheap"....... I assume she means low priced hosts, but if she tells us, we won't have this thread and nobody else is posting anything worth responding to.

I don't believe in "too shy" gerls
I might believe in Santa Clause

Do u believe in porn ghosts?

If there was really a santa claus, he would bring u to me. You have been at the top of my xmas wish list and I have been a good..... Oh wait, I am a bad boy.... BUT IT IS YOUR FAULT!!!

Wasnt me)))))

LMAO!!!
Yesssss!!! Because I have seen a porn ghost myself!!. Is he still haunting you?
haha. :D

Don't worry, most of them are chip. Even in real life :-P

i love chip gerls very much

I don't think the chip gerls really care whether or not you beliver in them. I think they are more concerned with the fact that the members believe in them - and I do believe!! I have seen them and talked with them! They are real and they are great! They are fun, sexy and intelligent, and I can have long, pleasant and coherent conversations with them.

And why these girls where picked?

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If you mean Leksa has many talents, I agree. She is sexy, beautiful, funny, and easy to talk to. I don't know what you are trying to say, but she is in Little Shy, and that seems right to me.

CasaBlancka?thought u mean me :D,BUT must b other one,coise im not a star OF CC,hehe :DDD

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:OO thaNK U ,but i didnt knew it before ;)

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Thanks :) Nice suggestion, i will try :)

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i think is sandra :)

I think that advertising a product without saying what the product is represents a pretty dumb strategy

heheeheh u r funny - who cares as long as its fun:P???

oh yes i am cheap - especially in 121 - hehehhehehe - u wish! :D

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its cheap to check:P

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hehehe,, did it help? not to meeeeee:(( it seems they like me more when im expencive:) lol

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good bye:)we will b miss u ,all of us :)if u will change ur mind.you r welcome :D XX

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it's obvious to what level u will be missed...lol...and anyone else that may attempt to depart the shores of depravity.

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:(

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having sex while skydiving :D

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happy birth Day Darling Helen too, wish U best all everything, love U

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happy B-day Helen

Happy Birthday!
I hope your day is fun dear!

shouldnt u say happy birthday to her her twin sister also?
happy birthday tafille

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Happy Birthday Anya and Nastya!!! Hope you have a great day with lots of love and happiness!!!!!

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happy birthday taffy have a great day

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happy birthday taf & heleh.hope that your birthday is all you deserve & that the next year sees your hopes & dreams closer to reality xxx :--)

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It all sounds so complicated :(

I'll just stick to being a pervert and finding a host who role plays that she likes being visited by a pervert :)

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Oh No !!! Now the expression "being the sub for the local football team" is putting images into my head that I do not want to be there. :(

As someone has done the real thing, with one of Washington DC's best, I can give you a little insight. My Mistress always sat with me before a session and we discussed what were my interests during the scene. I had a safe word, but I always told her that I wanted her to test my limits, to see how much I could take, and that I wanted to impress her. I always brought her a gift like jewelry or chocolates, and I always gave her a nice tip that was in the envelope. She never looked at the envelope until after I left because we had mutual trust. Be safe and have fun. There is a fine line between ecstasy and pain :-)

Whoa... one of Washington DC's best?
I'm a native & current resident of the Chocolate City. I'm intrigued.

Dear Formet Sub,
If my husband would do all those things I would be his Mistress more often...LOL
Thank you for making us laugh,
Old MISTRESS

It was a wonderful experience, she was an expert at the art of delivering pain and humiliation. And yet, she was very nice to me. I still smile thinking about it. If the CC host here who is a good friend (not dungeon!) knew about this part of my past, she would be totally shocked

Can I have my free 10 mins at the start of the session please? :)

looool very funny!!! well in a hypermarket can you have the promotion unless you buy something?????

I like your thinking white coat :D

obviously a glass half full man

I think it is smart business to offer an incentive to members. Most hosts have stuck to their pre-crisis pricing and are spending a lot of idle time. If business is bad do something different.

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You bring up the answer in your question about typing. Lol. I know one host who admits to never have had an orgasm in her 4 years here but she is a VERY good actress.

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Very true. Simple biology lol=)) The original poster doenst know much about womens body i guess. Im on this site for 4.5 years, and i NEVER had an orgasm here. Just because i dont want too. When i want to i can cum in like 5 mins. But here i can play for hours and nothing;) All is in our head;)

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Quite obviously SOME hosts can and do have orgasms online and quite obviously SOME will not and do not. Quite why one host that doesn't have a orgasm online thinks she can speak for all the other hosts is quite beyond my comprehension, wake up.

Well ha ha to you .... I fake mine too!
:)

From now on, when I'm done, I'm done... no more waiting around to watch a host excitedly FAKE an orgasm, since there's really no more pleasure to be had... oughta save me a few bucks.

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Is a host really going to tell me that, no, she can't cum... so don't bother staying? From what I'm hearing, some hosts cum, some don't... but I can't tell the difference anyway... so why take the trouble?

Well actually when a member asks me if i will cum, i honestly say-no sorry i dont cum here because its too personal. A few leave after this, most stay;)

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It's different. I know she fakes three out of four LOL but I am willing to spend the time with her for the relationship.

And truly I personally would rather spend time with a host ( note: enough time... half an hour in pvt at least) if I thought she would cum.

I'm just put off by how some hosts and members use each other here. It's reality, I know it. I don't have to like it.

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I saw one host that said she squirted...i dont remember her name but i think it was very original like uh,, Squirtalot..or SquirtTillyouDrown or Stop_Or I_Squirt.....:) but anyway...what she did is was freeze the cam for 2 seconds..inject some yochurt or some white substance (like she is a boy) in her pussy and then start the cam again..and then you see it drip out... I never saw something so fake. Sometimes hosts think men are so stupid ... hehehe i assume some are..but not all :)

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:) did you ask which soap he used? :)

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Hey! Nice to meet you. Can you tell me your host name?

Try "mistress"!

Hello, David..My host name? I signed with it, it is MISTRESS!!
Now please, don´t tell me I´m old!! LOL

actionman27 ? lol

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The date for the first helmet in hockey is wayyyyyyy off. It happened much earlier. Just search wikipedia.

I am not sure about the date for the use of the first cup. I gave up searching after I saw too many pictures which made me want to run to see as many hot instant action hosts as possible to remove the images from my brain. There was a reference to the first modern jockstrap being used in 1874, the date you provided, but I am not sure about cups.

The game of Ice Hockey is thought to have begun in the year 1800. The first officially organized indoor game played March 3, 1875 at the Victoria Skating Rink in Muntreal, Quebec. Due to flying pucks, and sticks, men were very much aware of what a puck in the genitals or a stick beween the legs could do to a player, creating an advantage for the opposing team. Wearing a "cup" was much more in tune with gaining an advantage then safety.

A helmet did not become a serious consideration until after 1968 when the National Hockey League had its first fatality due to a head injury (B. Masterton - Minn NorthStars). Soon after, helmets became popular in European and Russian leagues, but helmets continued to be rejected and shunned in North America much more than Europe. ( With the advent of helmets the game changed a little - high sticks became much more common place. )

Helmets for players in the NHL were rare until the 1970s. On several occasions, prototypes and designs were proposed. With few exceptions, they were turned down by the league or shunned by the players. In 1970 a mandatory hemet rule was still voted down in the NHL, even after the fatality. In the 1974 -1975 season helmets began to be accepted - there was an average of 5 players to wear helmets in the NHL.

During the 1979 season, protective helmets became mandatory in the NHL by Commisioner Zeigler for all new players joining the league. Veteran players who signed a waiver and were already in the league could opt out of wearing a helmet.
Craig MacTavish, of the St. Louis Blues, was the last helmet-less NHL player, skating his final season in 1995-1996.

Aug 27, 1992 - Girls will think you're dumb - not sexy - if you play hockey without a helmet, a group of young hockey players at the Kitchener, Ontario Hockey School said Wednesday. "They'd probably think you were kind of stupid," said 12-year- old W. Haynes of Kitchener. "I think they'd like you wearing ...


*Goalie Masks
The first person to wear a goalie mask in a game was Elizabeth Graham. In 1927, Elizabeth put on a fencing mask to protect her face. However, masks only became widely used after Canadiens' goalie J. Plante began wearing one in 1959, after having broken his skull, cheekbones, nose and jaw! Goalie C. Benedict was the first to design a hockey mask. It was made out of leather. He wore it for only a game or two in 1929.




THE POINT OF THE ORIGINAL POST WAS - the jock strap "Cup" was first used for sports in 1874. The helmet was NOT officially used in Hockey until 1979, so more than 100 years later they figured out the 'upper' head was worth something too.

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Yes isn't it interesting that once it was unthinkable to wear a helmet.

Now as those Kitchner boys said it is unthinkable to not wear a helmet.

Puffina?

Yes, the history was interesting, but good lord, the first post was a joke -- from email, no less! I'm curious if you two had a chance to enjoy the humor, or if you were too busy refuting the supposed facts?

my post was intended for NICE TRY, BUT... Obviously KACH enjoyed the joke, since he posted it LOL

"the first helmet was used in 1974" ..... this is definitely wrong.

As to the general use of helmets in the NHL, you would be correct, but your first post was in error.

In terms of protecting one's head, pucks did not fly around as high and as fast as they do now. Without taking the time to research it, I believe, for example, that the curved blade was not used until the 1950's or 1960's and was discovered when a player accidently had his blade bent. (Might have been Bobby Hull.) This allowed the puck to roll off of the stick and be fired higher and harder which is probably why they started to use goalie masks. I suppose that this then led to the use of helmets.

Ironically, guys cheap shot each other's heads and faces a lot more now that there are helmets so in a way the helmet (and shields) have led to more serious injuries. They respected each other's heads more when they didn't have them on. I guess that guys do not respect each other's balls, lol, so without a cup, they were in great danger. You would think it would have been the opposite and guy's would respect balls more than heads according to your initial post, lol, but the fact that a cup was necessary before a helmet would show this was not the case.

"the first ^official^ helmet was used in 1974" ..... this is definitely < CORRECT >. < The first post was correct, was a general statement avoiding TMI for sake of brevity as the MAIN FOCUS was the bottom line. >



". . .pucks did not fly around as high and as fast as they do now.. ." < pucks were not vulcanized rubber as they are now. The game has used many objects: small balls, frozen potatoes, frozen dung, snuff cans, wooden discs etc...>

Raised pucks, sticks and collisions caused face and head injuries to goalies (and players) long before the '50s & 60's as you state. ( A curved stick does make it easier to raise/lift a puck, however that does not preclude raised / lifted pucks with a straight stick).

Goalies, Goaltenders, Netminders - originally wore masks. The other players would eventually wear helmets. Goalie masks were being improvised and used much earlier than the '50s & 60's as you site [reference my 2nd post - fencing masks, leather, fiberglass] . The principle being to avoid lacerations and contusions from a blunt force, and to disperse the point contact energy across the entire face and head, to avoid broken eye sockets, nose, cheek & jaw bones, concussions or death. The last NHL goaltender to play without a mask was A. Brown 1974. ( hmm 1974 again! )

Goalie masks were replaced by Helmet/Caged Mask combinations such as those popularized by Vladislav Tretiak, the Russian goalie who competed in the 1972 Soviet Union - vs- Canada Summit Series. Full head composite material mask/helmets are now a much safer alternative.

B. Hull in particular was a proponent of the "banana blade" in the 1960's. Other players in earlier decades realized the advantages of a curved blade and actully broke the straight blades to get a curve. This curve allowed "cupping" of the puck and when shot produced erratic results.


". . .guys cheap shot each other's heads and faces a lot more now that there are helmets . . . " ====>>> < from original post "With the advent of helmets the game changed a little - high sticks became much more common place." >


" . . . without a cup, they were in great danger . . ." =====>>> < from original post " men were very much aware of what a puck in the genitals or a stick beween the legs could do to a player, CREATING AN ADVANTAGE for the opposing team. Wearing a "cup" was much more in tune with GAINING AN ADVANTAGE then for SAFETY. ">


THE BOTTOM LINE - the "Cup" was used for sports more than 100 years earlier than a Helmet. This shows the value of the family jewels relative to one's noggin.

You never said "official". I don't even think you mentioned the "NHL" in the original post... You said....

"The first testicular guard 'Cup' was used in Ice Hockey in 1874 - the first helmet was used in 1974."

So you were wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy off and wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy wrong, lol. I don't know about the MUntreal Maroons or Canadians, but I believe that the Toronto Maple Leafs used helmets in the 1930's or something like that which is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy before 1974.

Again, nice try but your post is notttttttttttttttttttttt accurate regardless of how much hockey knowlege you spew out, lol. The point of the post might be correct, but the "facts" you supply are notttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt accurate.

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Who cares?!?!

yeah .... why do those ice hockey girlies need protection down there anyway ?? :)

Well it is spelled - Montréal. I wrote Muntréal on purpose - to take into account the spoken accent which I enjoy so much.

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divorce him before u get pregnant

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very sensible advise, unusual for cc forum expect many shouts to divorce the b*st*rd but as you say only the original poster can help herself as she knows the full picture.

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There are hurtful things you should never say to a loved one, and this is one of them. Only you know if you have it in your heart to forgive him, if he deserves it.

For me, something like this would be very difficult to let go of, because to me it indicates a fundamental lack of respect for you. I wish you all the best.

What he said was wrong and hurtful. But have you told him that you will not tolerate a husband calls you such names?

You'd be amazed how little men understand about how much their words can hurt.

As Jenn said, we will forget this soon. You will be living with your decision for life.

He dont have to respect your work but should not call you bad names

Im sure you dont allow him have onlinesex wiith other girls because this is work not for fun. The problem you both have is that your husband knows its not work to the other part you show pussy to and other men dont respect him because of what you do.

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jeez, there's a lot of "holier than thou" going on in this thread

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this performer was more then stripping .. mayb hot toy shows, virtual bf text message, yahoo, ICQ,community chat meetings, western union gifts, email plans to meet member where is the line.. mayb husband married in hopes host give up site work if performers want fairytale marriage you cant have it sorry as " whore & slut" will be thought of hosts by all...sorry Hosts but I say he divorce her and find a faithful woman you choose this work you pay price for easy money

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I would say first of all, that I hope you won't make your decision to divorce or not based only on the advice in this forum. The decision is too important. And not knowing the full story (his side, I mean), any advice given here should be offered cautiously. It is too easy to give advice, but not all advice is right or good. Not all advice is given impartially or with good intentions. And not all advice is given from those who are qualified to give it.

So please... be careful. Seek out a qualified marriage counselor, who can help the two of you work out this problem. Sometimes marriages do reach a point of no return and cannot be saved, but I think the majority of times marriages can be saved, if a couple is willing to work at it and make important changes in their relationship and how they respond to each other.. A professional may help you communicate your feelings with each other in a more helpful way than just name-calling, can help you develop better patterns of relating with each other, and can help you deal with your emotions and feelings.

The marriage vows generally have to do with faithfulness to each other and one of the primary aspects of that faithfulness is sexual fidelity. It may be, as one has suggested above, that he is simply jealous. Or it could be that, even though he was outwardly accepting of your work before you got married, maybe deep down inside it violates his sense of sexual fidelity. Maybe he was blind to his true feelings, or simply denied them. Often we enter marriage with unrealistic expectations that our partner will change, that problems will suddenly disappear, and everything will be perfect. Now, perhaps reality has set in for him.

Then, too, I have observed that many people (even those who frequent this site as customers) view what hosts do as virtual prostitution. And it is easy to understand that thinking, because most hosts are selling sexual services, even if it is only in a virtual environment, and no actual intercourse takes place.

So, please, be careful. It may be that nothing can be done to save your marriage. But, with proper help, maybe this problem can be worked through and your marriage can come through it stronger and better, and your love for each other deeper.

I would ask you to consider two questions: (1) Did you love each other before you got married and do you love each other now? and (2) What do you want to happen, and are you willing to do what needs to be done to make it happen?

It suspect that your husband was not fully honest with himself about his true feelings, and not just with you.

I would add one more question. After re-reading your post, you say "I want to divorce my husband." So the question I am asking is: "Do you really want advice, or do you just want us to rubber-stamp ... that is give approval... to the decision you have already made?"

I will also add, that in my previous post, I did not mean to imply that your husband was without fault, or that his name-calling was right. The names were terrible names to call you and do indicate disrespect. But I do think the problem goes deeper than just the name-calling.

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1.A prostitute.
2.A person considered sexually promiscuous.
3.A person considered as having compromised principles for personal gain.
4.To accept payment in exchange for sexual relations

if he calls u a whore, but he lives off the money, i guess that makes him a pimp, yes?

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"....we do many things together without yet being b/f g/f ..."

It does not sound like he is talking about CC. Perhaps he should clarify.

very true,it is a real life thing and not fantasy, sorry if some posters got the wrong impression.

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Im the OP , tell me exactly where I actually said that she worked at CC please?

It sounds like you might be talking about something in "real" since you say that you do many things together. If CC, then just be honest and direct since there is not really another choice. But if "real", I suggest one of two options.

First, you could just be honest about your feelings. Don't overstate them and scare her, just be more casual and relaxed about it. Maybe even be more subtle and bring up the topic to relationships and say something like "I only wish that I could find a woman that I got along with as well as I get along with you. It is so important to be friends first." Then she will probably say something like "Yeah, it really is important to have a solid friendship as the basis for a romantic relationship." And then you can say something like "I know. I just feel closer to you than anybody."

You will need to feel her out at this point based on her response. Without leaping to conclusions because of your desire for a relationship, you need to look for clues as to her interest in you in that way. If she doesn't give you any signs of interest, then immediately bail and say something like, "You know. I'm hungry. Want some pizza?" Pick enough of a romantic location and time like a park on a sunny day with just a few people around to start the conversation, but someplace that gives you a way to bail in the way I suggested. A park not too far from stores or restaurants where you can suggest food or window shopping would be perfect. And of course if she does give you a sign she might want more, then let the conversation just flow naturally. Either way, you at least planted the idea in her head, and if you are not to pushy and follow her lead, you can preserve the friendship and maybe have something more.

The second option would be to create a romantic mood when you meet in the future. Suggest going to a nice restaurant that is more romantic, perhaps one near a nice park where you can take a romantic walk afterwards. Maybe just hold her hand and see how things go. If no signs from her, then don't force the issue. But keep doing romantic type boyfriend-girlfriend things like romantic dinners, ice skating, walks in the park, et cetera. Basically, try to create the mood and avoid the buddy type stuff like going out for a beer and grabbing lunch to chat. Make your meetings more of the romantic type. As you create the mood, sooner or later, if things are meant to be, it will happen.

Also remember she is probably smart enough to pick up on what you're doing sooner or later. Be prepared for the abrupt statement of her valuing your friendship as it is and not wanting more. Don't try to change her mind at that point if you want to preserve the friendship. She has made her decision. And just like on CC, the best way to get over a broken heart is to see other women. Who knows? Maybe as you date other women and spend less time with this person, she will start to have second thoughts about her decision.

The longer you wait, the harder it becomes. If you get the 'look' at any time - take a step forward and hold eye contact. You must make it known that you are available to get closer - if the invitation is there then dont go shy

Ive been in that situation twice in the past. 1st time i made a move, we got together for a little while and within 6 months we would ignore each other if we passed in the street.
The 2nd girl i never told, i gradually stopped spending so much time with her, and focused on other woman. We are still great friends, and i think i value that more then the risk of it going so wrong, as the 1st 1 did.

If you tell her the truth it is unlikely that you will look back in a few years and kick yourself for it.

If you say nothing, you may just look back and wonder why you let fear get in the way of something that might have been good.

I say be confident and be honest - which is exactly what women seem to like. Maybe things will work out, maybe they won't.

If nothing else, you are being honest with your friend - and that is what friends are - the people you can be honest with.

Just my .02.

By far the best piece of advice so far I think... in fact, I have nothing more to add at all.

Thanks Epon E Mouse. Hopefully things will work out for the OP.

* Making it clear from the very beginning, i KNOW you are talking about a real life issue*
1. I know exactly what you're talking about. (LOL)
2. Do NOT tell her anything! Just enjoy your time together like you did so far, she probably has feelings for you too, otherwise you would only do ONE thing together.
3. Before getting into such personal conversations with her discuss...Feelings in general, find out if she's ready or willing to get involved to that level.

And seriously, no need to talk, some things are supposed to be felt, then it all comes naturally.

Tell her to drop her panties when you alone with her

I think NightOfAkina also has one if you are interested.

I have bride outfit fantasy... problem is it is only a fantasy with one particular host and she won't say 'yes'!! :-P