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RandomOpinions' guide to Chathost success
I have seen plenty of hosts over the past 6 years, I also had a fiance' that was a host so I've seen both sides of this game. I know what it is like and I can tell you what works and what doesn't. So this is only my opinion and you can ignore it if you want. But trust me, these small things can make the difference between being an average host, and being a great host.
1. Your archive is your first impression- If your archive has little to no pictures in it, the viewer does not have much to go on. You may think that since you don't get paid to make pictures that they aren't worth doing but pictures are what get you the viewers to get you paid. Take plenty of them, you will gradually get better at taking them over time. Go back later and delete pictures that do not look good. But at the same time take pictures that are accurate. You may think that because that crazy angle hides the fact that you are not thin and that it will get a viewer into your room, and sometimes you'll be right, but they won't stay. Also, take at least one picture when you start your session so that a member will have a reasonable idea about what you look like today. If you don't like the picture you can delete it later. Ok enough on this topic.
2. Do not start your session until you have prepared yourself- Do your makeup, get dressed up however you feel puts your best look out there, but do this before you start. It is frustrating to walk into a session of a girl who is definitely beautiful when she gets herself ready, but today she looks average. The problem with doing this is that you lose repeat business by not doing this. If the viewer sees you at less than your best, next time he's going to try someone else. Be at your best when you start.
3. Do not stall to make a session drag out, or be judgemental about how long a member stays- It's their money, they can stay for as short as they like or as long as they like. Don't try to eek out a couple of extra dollars by asking questions that you don't care about. I'm not saying that if you have an interesting topic that you shouldn't talk. I'm saying that if you are asking a question that you obviously don't care about the answer, you are wasting my time. And which viewer do you prefer, the guy who comes to your session once for 30 mins, or the guy who comes ten times for ten mins? I'm paying you for this service and the last thing I expect is for you to carry a low opinion of me just because you don't think I spent enough money. That is low class and there are other girls out there if you don't want the business.
4. Pay attention to your text chat- I am not saying that you have to allow a customer to sit all day in free text and waste your time. But if I say hi, there is a good chance that I want to make sure you are there first, and many viewers would like to discuss what they would like to see prior to entering. This may not seem important to you at all. But this saves you from bad sessions far more often then you realize. Also, along with what I said about not stalling I would say this. Do not expect me to pay you to talk to me in video when you could not talk to me in text. If you are a host that simply refuses to have anything to say to me until I'm paying, then you should be just fine with starting immediately.
5. Have at least 2 outfits that are different than what you are wearing- If you work at a studio, take a bag with a few different choices. Many viewers will look at your pics and will enter your room based on how you look in a particular pic. The closer you can come to the way you look in that pic the easier it is going to be for you to please the viewer. You may think that it is a pain to change your clothes but ask yourself this....If you have a choice between having a customer love you show, and having them think it was just ok, which do you want.
6. Listen to what your viewer is asking you for- Pay attention and if you don't understand tell them. I know many of you do not speak certain languages perfectly, so if you don't understand what they are asking just ask them. They will appreciate you doing so rather than ignoring what they are saying.
7. Respect your viewers- If you do not want to contact them outside of this site then don't give them information. Don't make a customer feel like a friend and doing make a friend feel like a customer. If you lead someone to think one thing and then do something else you will only lead them to anger. Most viewers expect you to have a boyfriend or be married, so don't feel like you have to lie about everything in your life. Don't tell obvious lies. If your 18 and and 48 and you tell me "that's a perfect age" I'm not a moron. You don't need to compliment things that are obviously not what you want to be complimented on. All a viewer wants is to see you happy and to be treated kindly.
I could go on but for the most part those are good basic rules. I hope it helps someone. And trust me, even though you may think that everyone knows these things. I assure you that less than 30% of you actually do them. And even if you do these things, you can find other things to do better. Everyone can improve.
1. Your archive is your first impression- If your archive has little to no pictures in it, the viewer does not have much to go on. You may think that since you don't get paid to make pictures that they aren't worth doing but pictures are what get you the viewers to get you paid. Take plenty of them, you will gradually get better at taking them over time. Go back later and delete pictures that do not look good. But at the same time take pictures that are accurate. You may think that because that crazy angle hides the fact that you are not thin and that it will get a viewer into your room, and sometimes you'll be right, but they won't stay. Also, take at least one picture when you start your session so that a member will have a reasonable idea about what you look like today. If you don't like the picture you can delete it later. Ok enough on this topic.
2. Do not start your session until you have prepared yourself- Do your makeup, get dressed up however you feel puts your best look out there, but do this before you start. It is frustrating to walk into a session of a girl who is definitely beautiful when she gets herself ready, but today she looks average. The problem with doing this is that you lose repeat business by not doing this. If the viewer sees you at less than your best, next time he's going to try someone else. Be at your best when you start.
3. Do not stall to make a session drag out, or be judgemental about how long a member stays- It's their money, they can stay for as short as they like or as long as they like. Don't try to eek out a couple of extra dollars by asking questions that you don't care about. I'm not saying that if you have an interesting topic that you shouldn't talk. I'm saying that if you are asking a question that you obviously don't care about the answer, you are wasting my time. And which viewer do you prefer, the guy who comes to your session once for 30 mins, or the guy who comes ten times for ten mins? I'm paying you for this service and the last thing I expect is for you to carry a low opinion of me just because you don't think I spent enough money. That is low class and there are other girls out there if you don't want the business.
4. Pay attention to your text chat- I am not saying that you have to allow a customer to sit all day in free text and waste your time. But if I say hi, there is a good chance that I want to make sure you are there first, and many viewers would like to discuss what they would like to see prior to entering. This may not seem important to you at all. But this saves you from bad sessions far more often then you realize. Also, along with what I said about not stalling I would say this. Do not expect me to pay you to talk to me in video when you could not talk to me in text. If you are a host that simply refuses to have anything to say to me until I'm paying, then you should be just fine with starting immediately.
5. Have at least 2 outfits that are different than what you are wearing- If you work at a studio, take a bag with a few different choices. Many viewers will look at your pics and will enter your room based on how you look in a particular pic. The closer you can come to the way you look in that pic the easier it is going to be for you to please the viewer. You may think that it is a pain to change your clothes but ask yourself this....If you have a choice between having a customer love you show, and having them think it was just ok, which do you want.
6. Listen to what your viewer is asking you for- Pay attention and if you don't understand tell them. I know many of you do not speak certain languages perfectly, so if you don't understand what they are asking just ask them. They will appreciate you doing so rather than ignoring what they are saying.
7. Respect your viewers- If you do not want to contact them outside of this site then don't give them information. Don't make a customer feel like a friend and doing make a friend feel like a customer. If you lead someone to think one thing and then do something else you will only lead them to anger. Most viewers expect you to have a boyfriend or be married, so don't feel like you have to lie about everything in your life. Don't tell obvious lies. If your 18 and and 48 and you tell me "that's a perfect age" I'm not a moron. You don't need to compliment things that are obviously not what you want to be complimented on. All a viewer wants is to see you happy and to be treated kindly.
I could go on but for the most part those are good basic rules. I hope it helps someone. And trust me, even though you may think that everyone knows these things. I assure you that less than 30% of you actually do them. And even if you do these things, you can find other things to do better. Everyone can improve.
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Whilst you have some useful snippets of advice, I feel your posting will be self-defeating. If you want the hosts to adopt your ideas, might have been advisable to have a less patronising tone, which will only serve to alienate them.
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I don't think I was patronizing at all honestly. Whatever tone you would derive from reading it is only how you would perceive it. Everything I said was what I fully believe will help anyone doing this job. This is a job that doesn't come with any guidance, and the only feedback hosts tend to get is that they are either super hot, or that they suck. That doesn't help at all. So writing out some basic things that I have seen an experienced can be useful to any host that actually cares. Do I expect that to be the bulk of people reading it? No, of course not. I don't think this is gonna change anyone's life. It's a forum post on an adult site. But there might be a few hosts that are trying to figure out how to earn a little better here and maybe this helps them out a little bit. Either way I wrote it because I was bored and wanted to do something that I felt was useful. It wasn't written with any malice and I wasn't trying to patronize anyone. I simply think that if viewers and hosts talk calmly about issues and tried to express their opinions a little bit more clearly that it cannot do any harm. I had a gf that did this and we talked a decent amount about it. So I decided to write this not only based on what I experienced as a viewer, but also what I have seen from the other side of the curtain. If you feel like that was self serving in some way then I really don't have any way to respond to that. You are gonna think what you want to think. I can only say that I wrote it from the heart and that I meant what I wrote.
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random, i like your post. and you should not pay attention to some attacks here. we say our honest opinions without insults. everyone gets trolled by intentional misreading here. but you should just ignore it.
although the girls here already do a great job i think your honest tips are very useful and will just make the experience better for hosts and viewers. so thank you!
jarle
although the girls here already do a great job i think your honest tips are very useful and will just make the experience better for hosts and viewers. so thank you!
jarle
RE: RandomOpinions' guide to Chathost success
Yeah, it's not my opinion that these things are mandatory or vital, it's that these things will improve your service and will increase your earnings. I mean if you aren't doing pics every day but you are doing a good set a couple times a month that's going to be fine for the most part. But I do think that the more pictures you have the better it will be.
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Well written and spot on. I find the hosts here to be thinking short term. They do not think of marketing themselves long term. Most anyway. They want to squeeze every penney out of the first session even if it mean alienating a potential regular. The smart hosts follow your guidelines and keep members coming back.
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Random if I were a host, I'd tell you to take your advice and stick it where the sun don't shine. Trust me, no one in business likes to hear someone from the outside tell them how to run their business.
Hosts; In any business you either have it or you don't. Give it your best shot and if it works fine. If not then try something else. Good luck!
Hosts; In any business you either have it or you don't. Give it your best shot and if it works fine. If not then try something else. Good luck!
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While i agree that all his points could all be valid I also think they are all fairly obvious. It's like me telling a mechanic not to wear his best suit to the garage as it may get dirty.
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Perhaps they are doing well because they wear that outfit every time they are on line and they look that good....duh!! He is obviously referring to the ones that don't look a thing like their pics and are lazy and don't bother to put the energy in that she did for the pics in her profile. Think the key words are ....hosts....look as good or better than your posted pics or don't come on that day! Makes sense!!
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Disappointing coming from you Monika because you don't know me but I've had session with you and I think you actually do everything that I listed. I actually think you are a very good host. But to each there own I guess.
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A business that doesn't consider their customer's opinions or at the very least considers them is doomed to failure. The post was about things that would benefit both the member and the host. The most successful businesses are wired into their customers and think long term relationship.
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I actually was very happy to see his accuracy with what a hosts perspective should be to please and attract viewers. The ones that
are sarcastic or come back with faults for viewers are the ones that
need to regard it the most....in that aspect I think you are correct that
they will blow it off and that will be their loss...
are sarcastic or come back with faults for viewers are the ones that
need to regard it the most....in that aspect I think you are correct that
they will blow it off and that will be their loss...
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When the person that is outside the business is a potential customer, and if that potential customer may be representative of a significant number of other potential customers, only a fool would not listen unless he is not interested in increasing the number of customers. A "take it or leave it" attitude when you run your business only works when you have a sufficient number of people that are taking and are not interested in obtaining more. I am sure that a lot of hosts would be very happy to have more members visiting them, and perhaps some of them could be assisted by following some of his advice.
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The one who pays is the one who's actually puts your biz to run. Otherwise if you dont hear your patron you will never have a damm thing to run. ;)
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The more I read of the comments of both members and hosts on this forum, the more I'm thankful that this conglomerate of idiots has come together for the sole purpose of entertaining me :)
Thank you, hosts.
Thank you, members.
But most of all. Thank you, me.
Thank you, hosts.
Thank you, members.
But most of all. Thank you, me.
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And how did your relationship with your fiance develop or end after her following all the guidelines? You seem to be a ruthless businessman.
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There's really nothing to disagree with in your post since everything you say can potentially be helpful, but you missed what I feel is the most important thing of all: have a good main profile pic. That pic, not the archive pics, are the first impression, and I don't even look at the archive pics or profile if the profile pic doesn't get my attention. Way too many hosts have poor profile pics in my view, and I just skip right on past them.
If the profile pic gets my attention, I will then check the archives and price, and sometimes read the profile, especially for soft core hosts to see if they talk about stripping, 121, et cetera. Occasionally, I check the personal forum too. After that, if I am okay with the price based on what I see in the pics, I either go into text chat or video, depending on my mood, the category (more likely to jump into open if hard core since I know the host must strip), and the price (the lower the price, the more likely I will just go into open).
From there, if in video, whether I stay depends on 1) if I like what I see, 2) how I am treated and 3) is the host willing to do what I want, namely strip, in a reasonable amount of time (which of course depends on the category). I've made friends here, and a few of them never have stripped for me, but I almost never go into video without wanting a show the first time I meet a host.
If I go to text chat first, I do the basic chat dialogue, lol, and if soft core, will ask about nudity, sometimes directly and sometimes a little more subtly since some hosts hate this question.. I also sometimes do the basic dialogue in text to save a little money with a more expensive host even if in hard core. If a host won't talk to me or won't be specific enough for me, I just move on most of the time unless I really like her pics a lot and just can't resist checking her out, lol.
As for other things like outfits or asking what she does in video, I really don't care. I want her naked, and I don't focus on if she has toys, masturbates, does special things like anal, et cetera. Nudity is good enough although other things can be nice too. I'm pretty easy to please if the host is willing to get naked and if she follows the rules and doesn't pull the 121 garbage in hard core.
The only other thing I would suggest is a host in soft core really should put in her profile if she strips in open, 121, or both. Sometimes, I use the pics to judge what she does, but I know several hosts that won't even go topless even though they have topless archive pics. (This is against the rules by the way,,,, Your pics are supposed to reflect what you do in video.) But the key point here is that if I see you are soft core and have a high 121 price, I often won't take the time to visit you if your pics in my mind don't justify my paying to see you strip at that 121 price. However, many soft core hosts will strip in open so I won't have to pay that price. The problem is there are too many hosts so I really don't like taking the time to keep asking who strips in open, 121, or both, so unless your pics really make me want to see you, I might just assume you will make me pay that higher 121 price and skip past you whereas if I knew you would strip at the lower open price, I might actually visit you. That doesn't mean I never go 121, but your pics must make me think you are worth it, otherwise, I might not even give you a chance in open to get me to go 121, and I might not even take the time to talk to you to begin with, Hope that makes sense, lol.
If the profile pic gets my attention, I will then check the archives and price, and sometimes read the profile, especially for soft core hosts to see if they talk about stripping, 121, et cetera. Occasionally, I check the personal forum too. After that, if I am okay with the price based on what I see in the pics, I either go into text chat or video, depending on my mood, the category (more likely to jump into open if hard core since I know the host must strip), and the price (the lower the price, the more likely I will just go into open).
From there, if in video, whether I stay depends on 1) if I like what I see, 2) how I am treated and 3) is the host willing to do what I want, namely strip, in a reasonable amount of time (which of course depends on the category). I've made friends here, and a few of them never have stripped for me, but I almost never go into video without wanting a show the first time I meet a host.
If I go to text chat first, I do the basic chat dialogue, lol, and if soft core, will ask about nudity, sometimes directly and sometimes a little more subtly since some hosts hate this question.. I also sometimes do the basic dialogue in text to save a little money with a more expensive host even if in hard core. If a host won't talk to me or won't be specific enough for me, I just move on most of the time unless I really like her pics a lot and just can't resist checking her out, lol.
As for other things like outfits or asking what she does in video, I really don't care. I want her naked, and I don't focus on if she has toys, masturbates, does special things like anal, et cetera. Nudity is good enough although other things can be nice too. I'm pretty easy to please if the host is willing to get naked and if she follows the rules and doesn't pull the 121 garbage in hard core.
The only other thing I would suggest is a host in soft core really should put in her profile if she strips in open, 121, or both. Sometimes, I use the pics to judge what she does, but I know several hosts that won't even go topless even though they have topless archive pics. (This is against the rules by the way,,,, Your pics are supposed to reflect what you do in video.) But the key point here is that if I see you are soft core and have a high 121 price, I often won't take the time to visit you if your pics in my mind don't justify my paying to see you strip at that 121 price. However, many soft core hosts will strip in open so I won't have to pay that price. The problem is there are too many hosts so I really don't like taking the time to keep asking who strips in open, 121, or both, so unless your pics really make me want to see you, I might just assume you will make me pay that higher 121 price and skip past you whereas if I knew you would strip at the lower open price, I might actually visit you. That doesn't mean I never go 121, but your pics must make me think you are worth it, otherwise, I might not even give you a chance in open to get me to go 121, and I might not even take the time to talk to you to begin with, Hope that makes sense, lol.
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Yes, that is an excellent point, I wish I could edit my op lol. Definitely correct that you absolutely need a great profile pic. And it really should reflect your best physical qualities.
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It may be bad for business but it is not against the rules for a host to have topless archive pics but not want to go topless. A host is only required by the rules to offer what is shown in her profile pic.
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"The image you portray through Profile Photos and 'latest' Archive photos MUST match the image you are able to offer in video at that moment (person(s), actions, quality, anything specifically advertised)."
A soft core host with recent pics (not sure if latest means just the most recent ones in the very first set or the last few sets of pics) that were topless would need to go topless. She might be able to say go 121, but she would have been waiving her right not to go topless by advertising that she did this.
Anyway, the hosts that I was thinking of don't have recent topless pics so it wouldn't matter. But I bet a bit of searching would show that others are violating this rule too. It isn't something I am worried about. I was just noting it. They lie about their age too and that is also against the rules, but I don't worry about that either.
A soft core host with recent pics (not sure if latest means just the most recent ones in the very first set or the last few sets of pics) that were topless would need to go topless. She might be able to say go 121, but she would have been waiving her right not to go topless by advertising that she did this.
Anyway, the hosts that I was thinking of don't have recent topless pics so it wouldn't matter. But I bet a bit of searching would show that others are violating this rule too. It isn't something I am worried about. I was just noting it. They lie about their age too and that is also against the rules, but I don't worry about that either.
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My age in profile younger than it is, but I always ready to change it if men said me I look older, so far 90% of viewers said me I look younger than even age in profile (LOL). Except one regular, he said I probably his age (that was 100% true) dont know how he could understand it, because other seem dont.
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Sounds like something discussed in an earlier thread about why men lie.
WIFE: "Honey, do these jeans make my ass look fat?"
HUSBAND: (thinking to self) "Hmmm, hell yes... they make your ass look like the broad side of a barn -- but if I tell her YES, my cattle are gonna have to graze out in the field tonight". (Out loud, to wife) "Well, NO, Baby, your ass looks just great in those jeans!"
WIFE: "Honey, do these jeans make my ass look fat?"
HUSBAND: (thinking to self) "Hmmm, hell yes... they make your ass look like the broad side of a barn -- but if I tell her YES, my cattle are gonna have to graze out in the field tonight". (Out loud, to wife) "Well, NO, Baby, your ass looks just great in those jeans!"
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Ah I thought it was going to be :-
WIFE: "Honey, do these jeans make my ass look fat?"
HUSBAND: "No the jeans do not make your ass look fat. Your ass looks fat because it is"
WIFE: "Honey, do these jeans make my ass look fat?"
HUSBAND: "No the jeans do not make your ass look fat. Your ass looks fat because it is"
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Oh really? Would love to see YOUR ass in jeans, I bet its fatter than mine 93 cm.. :)
But ok, will be know they all lie to me because....hmm...wanted to see me naked?! lol
I personally dont mind if someone find me "too old" for hosting, I nobody make to go to my room, my 1000 photos took by my cam, and there clearly see how look I am.
But ok, will be know they all lie to me because....hmm...wanted to see me naked?! lol
I personally dont mind if someone find me "too old" for hosting, I nobody make to go to my room, my 1000 photos took by my cam, and there clearly see how look I am.
Ok enough is enough,
Ok enough if ur gonna shred me apart at least pls don’t do it using something that has been taken out of context and misunderstood.
I know that viewer forum is for the viewers, and members are entitled to their opinions and such, and that is fine. However as hosts not only are we able to read what is posted, but we are also told by members what is posted about us in the forums, Normally I do not post in here without reason, as I always end up getting my ass chewed off for it.
But when something I say or do is misunderstood, and then people come to my room and text just to insult, call me all sorts of things and just be mean and cruel due to what they read, then I have a right to speak up. My saying "I need to be aroused to perform" has been taken out of context and misunderstood big time, and now I am being thrown to wolves and trashed because of it.
First, this post started with someone asking if I had changed, or if I was caught on a bad day, well we all have bad days, Just like we all have had our good day change by someone coming along who says or does something to put a wrench in it, and sometimes that happens when another person shows up at the same time who is nice, but we still have to deal with the not nice person the best way we can. Sorry to be human and sometimes it affects me, just like it would anyone else when dealing with it negtive people. You try to bounce back fast as u can and not let it affect others. Many hosts on here have had this happen to them, just like anyone one of u members have had it happen to u at work; and u, most likely if possible, give ur self the few minutes u need to let that go so u can continue and shake off the negative that was tossed at u, however at times it is not possible.
Second, when I say that I need to be aroused to perform, that means that if I am to be doing a specific sexual content such as certain touching below the waste or being asked to release certain juices, then yes I need to be aroused in order to do that. You guys do not release ur juices if you are not aroused or hard. You guys are not able to shove ur penis into a female if it is all soft and limp. So how can u expect a female to be able to do such things if she is dry as the Arizona Dessert, unless she is using some lotion that helps it look like real excitement.
I could see if I advertised such things or if I promised such things and then said no once in video, but no I do not and have never ever done that. I have always been that way even when I was in not so shy, I would be asked r u horny, and if not I would say, I am not horny enough to be able to insert a toy right away nor orgasm right away, lets face it many come to our rooms demanding and expecting us orgasm when they say no matter what category a host is in. So I simply suggest they go to instant action category. I changed to softcore category as I realised that being in the not so shy hardcore category and having members come in and say hi shove that toy in u and cum right now, was something that I was not able to do. So you see that one statement that is being repeatedly tossed around was very much taken out of context and misunderstood.
Third, So if my being honest and saying I am sorry but I am not able to do as u asked rather than lying about it and u being disappointed and pissed off at me and saying why didn’t u just say u couldn’t do it, I am sorry, but it is very unfair to bash me for being honest and saving u money; I do my job the best way I can, BUT!!!, I refuse to let a person spend their money thinking I will do something that I have already said "no I do not do that" or "no I am not aroused enough to do that" or "at this moment I am not able to". I am upfront and I will say sorry but no, just like other hosts on here that say no to doing certain things if they r not able to. My arousal zone does not stop me nor prevent me from doing many other requests that I am asked to do. There are a number of hosts on here that do not do certain things, some will tell u they don’t, some will pretend to do it, and some will simply stall and not do it all.
In any profession a professional will be honest and say I am sorry but the particular request, item or service u are wanting at the moment, is not possible right now. A professional will not go in the back room and find something they can pass off as what is wanted knowing full well it will not be acceptable. Instead a professional will direct the person to a place they can find exactly what they are looking at that particular moment.
Every day I listen to members complaining, and saying a host lied and why didn’t she just say she couldn’t do it, rather than tricking me into her video, stalling, draining my money and never doing what is asked or agreed to.
I do not expect people to arouse me, but there are those who do try and like to try, if u are not one of them that is fine, then i will simply let u know i am not able to do what ur asking, and will suggest that u look for someone who will;
I am in little shy softcore category; so yes ur damn right I need to be aroused if I am going to shove a toy in me or masturbate and shoot out juices; But I do not advertise that and I do not trick anyone into my video with such promises. So you are being extremely unfair to be ripping me apart for being upfront, for not wasting ur time and for not trying screw u out of ur money. I am in the category that best suits what I am able to do, which is another complaint that members have that hosts r not in the right category for what they r willing to do.
I thank those members that stood up for me and took a back lashing for it. :)
I hope u all have a great time with the host of ur choice that suits ur needs for that moment. hugggg.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
Throwing Pearls Before Swine.... now THAT would make a great contest title.
Admins! Put this girl's genius to work!
Admins! Put this girl's genius to work!
RE: Ok enough is enough,
The first thing I would say is that I have no idea why you would even respond to something that silly to begin with, let alone write a novel about it. Anyone that expects someone to squirt on command is a moron and most would realize that just from reading it.
That being said, one comment you made about a host having a bad day and that "everyone does" . Well yeah, everyone does have bad days but if you are having a bad day then the professional thing would be to log off. If you don't feel like you can provide your customers with a good show then you shouldn't be charging them on a per minute basis. And you certainly should not be offended by someone who paid money for a show that they felt was not a good effort. The customer is always right is the motto you should live by. I know that is hard because no matter what job you have you are going to run into assholes but at those jobs you generally can't tell them that they are assholes. If you are reading negative things about you in either forum (which you really shouldn't be in the viewer forum to begin with, even if you are able to view it, there is a reason it is called a VIEWER forum) then maybe you should use that as a cause for reflection. You aren't going to please everyone by doing that, but you may end up becoming a better host. Now you can scoff at that advice if you like, but it is good advice. Everyone can always do better. And like I said at the beginning, just ignore ignorance, because let's face it. A hater is going to hate.
That being said, one comment you made about a host having a bad day and that "everyone does" . Well yeah, everyone does have bad days but if you are having a bad day then the professional thing would be to log off. If you don't feel like you can provide your customers with a good show then you shouldn't be charging them on a per minute basis. And you certainly should not be offended by someone who paid money for a show that they felt was not a good effort. The customer is always right is the motto you should live by. I know that is hard because no matter what job you have you are going to run into assholes but at those jobs you generally can't tell them that they are assholes. If you are reading negative things about you in either forum (which you really shouldn't be in the viewer forum to begin with, even if you are able to view it, there is a reason it is called a VIEWER forum) then maybe you should use that as a cause for reflection. You aren't going to please everyone by doing that, but you may end up becoming a better host. Now you can scoff at that advice if you like, but it is good advice. Everyone can always do better. And like I said at the beginning, just ignore ignorance, because let's face it. A hater is going to hate.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
Please read her post again. She says that the thing that caused the bad day happened just before another member entered her video. She did not have a chnce to log off and take a recovery break. She did not say she was not able to give a show. Just that she could not do every request thrown at her at that time. SHe was up front in telling the viewer that she would not do what he asked at that time. The customer is not always right. The customer is not right when he tells a non-adult host to strip, when he says a soft core host has to get naked, when he complains that a not shy host does not start a show within 30 secs after h enters her video, when he asks a host to pee, poo etc etc.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
How about you read my post again. I started off by saying that guy was an idiot for requesting that and being miffed by her being physically unable to do that. And I acknowledge that she was up front with it. My point about the bad day stuff was not about THIS particular incident. It was in reference to her saying that hey, we all have bad days. My response to that was that you should not be doing this particular job if your bad day is going to keep you from doing it well. Viewers pay a lot of money for the service and they deserve to be given the best service for their money.
And as far as the customer always being right. Sure, you can go to extremes or nitpick situations to say not here or not here. But the point is that in this environment all too often there is an opinion somehow that the chathost and viewer are entitled equally. This simply is not true. If they were equal one would not be paying the other. The viewer deserves to be treated like he is a customer at any other business. If I go to mcdonalds and I tell them I want extra ketchup on my burger you don't get to tell me that you're having a bad day and the ketchup is too far away.
The difference between a great host and an average or bad host is gigantic. If you have a session with a host who smiles, is pleasant, is trying to have fun and treats you well, you never really even think about the money you just spent. But I promise you if you have an average session or a bad one the first thing you are thinking is, jesus how much did this shit cost? And you aren't going back. Any host can treat me as poorly as she wants to.........once.
And as far as the customer always being right. Sure, you can go to extremes or nitpick situations to say not here or not here. But the point is that in this environment all too often there is an opinion somehow that the chathost and viewer are entitled equally. This simply is not true. If they were equal one would not be paying the other. The viewer deserves to be treated like he is a customer at any other business. If I go to mcdonalds and I tell them I want extra ketchup on my burger you don't get to tell me that you're having a bad day and the ketchup is too far away.
The difference between a great host and an average or bad host is gigantic. If you have a session with a host who smiles, is pleasant, is trying to have fun and treats you well, you never really even think about the money you just spent. But I promise you if you have an average session or a bad one the first thing you are thinking is, jesus how much did this shit cost? And you aren't going back. Any host can treat me as poorly as she wants to.........once.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
I disagree that there is a widespread opinion that hosts and members are equal. The vast majority of hosts understand that the member is the customer. However being the customer does not give the member to act in anyway he wishes. If at McDonalds you yell "Give me exta ketchup on my burger right now you f*king bitch" you would probaly be asked to leave. In most business' the attitude of the customer influences the level of service he gets. If in a restaurant with water/waitress service you simply bark your order at the server you will get your food ok. If you smile, say please, maybe chat a bit with them you will get better attention, a better dining experience. If you go back you will get a warmer welcome, they will make sure you get a good table. From your other posts it is clear that when you visit hosts you are polite and so generally get treated well. In the cases where you have not been happy I am sure it is due to the host and not you.
However you seem to assume that all members treat hosts in the same way as you do and all members want the same things as you. I find this surprising as you say you were once engaged to a host and if she talked to you at all about her work you should know that neither is true.
However you seem to assume that all members treat hosts in the same way as you do and all members want the same things as you. I find this surprising as you say you were once engaged to a host and if she talked to you at all about her work you should know that neither is true.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
oh no, I did not mean to suggest that chathosts should be subject to inappropriate behavior at all, and I am quite aware of the bs that many of you are often subjected to and I don't agree with it. What I am saying is that if for any reason something is wrong with a hosts mood to where the next paying customer is not going to be treated like they should that the host should take responsibility and log off, that's all. I'm not saying that the client she was mistreated by is right, I'm saying that the next customer that has not done anything wrong should not pay the price for it.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
Yes RandomOpinion I agree with you if having a bad then log off and take a break and that is what I do.
But when someone comes along and starts causing problems, you have to deal with that person the best way you can as well as others that come along at the same time. Be it if that person is in text or enters your video and then others show up at same time. all you can is your best to not only calm the one throwing the wrench in there but also keep your calm until the wrench thrower calms down or leaves, you can not just up and leave without clearing the room.
I do not say yes to videos if I know I not able to do what is asked, if asked in text I say so no right away and if someone enters video without talkin in text first and tells me what they want, then again I tell them right away I am sorry but I do not do that and direct them to where they might find what they are looking for.
As for your comment about people paying, I agree but you can not do much when one just enters an open session and starts causing problems, be it them being in there first or entering while another is in there, again all you can do is deal with it the best you can. I know not everyone will be happy and I completely understand that. That is not why I posted.
But when someone comes along and starts causing problems, you have to deal with that person the best way you can as well as others that come along at the same time. Be it if that person is in text or enters your video and then others show up at same time. all you can is your best to not only calm the one throwing the wrench in there but also keep your calm until the wrench thrower calms down or leaves, you can not just up and leave without clearing the room.
I do not say yes to videos if I know I not able to do what is asked, if asked in text I say so no right away and if someone enters video without talkin in text first and tells me what they want, then again I tell them right away I am sorry but I do not do that and direct them to where they might find what they are looking for.
As for your comment about people paying, I agree but you can not do much when one just enters an open session and starts causing problems, be it them being in there first or entering while another is in there, again all you can do is deal with it the best you can. I know not everyone will be happy and I completely understand that. That is not why I posted.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
Hon, the only thing I would say to you is that I don't think you needed to respond to that guy in the forums. I wouldn't dignify it with a response. I don't know you and haven't viewed you but you seem to represent yourself well. So if that's the case brush that off and do your job as well as you can.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
That is an angry post. I did manage to force myself to read the entire thing but omg why are you letting it effect like this? There will always be the case that you can please some of the people all the time and you can please all the people some of the time but you can not please all the people all the time!!
I think that you should not take it so personal. You certainly had voices that spoke up for you. So a few people spoke their thoughts that it should not be the job of the person paying to excite you when you're not in the mood if you do offer masturbation in your room. So the answer would be to chance losing a customer by telling them "no" when they ask if you will at a time when you're not aroused.
Good grief you've moved to softcore where it certainly isn't expected in general so if someone asks in chat if you will or comes in and asks in open just say "no" and not that you have to be aroused by the guy. All women need to be excited to truly get excited...it's call foreplay and when you work on here and say you're not in the mood it's not like going to bed and telling the guy that you want to have foreplay to get excited. On here it strikes them more like the wife that says I have a headache.
Either say yes or no. I understand what the guy was saying that posted the message. Why is he paying to excite you to do your job? He doesn't look at it that way. If you advertise it then they think you should do it. You are in the right category now but why do you feel that you need to try and make it their problem to get you excited?
It's a yes or no answer for what ever mood you are in.
In softcore why do you feel that you need to masturbate and cum??
It certainly is not expected so why make that an option if you don't feel like it?
OMG I have written as much as you did just trying to calm you and let you understand that when guys come here they are thinking you are ready and waiting...the last thing they want to hear is I have to be in the mood or stimulated....that is way too close to reality. You probably just don't understand it was your wording at the time so you have said your peace. Your profile is now drawing attention and I am sorry but you sound like you are mad at the world and hate men if they don't foreplay you.
This is fantasy and if you don't want to do that part you certainly don't have to fake it, or do it at all. Just don't make it their problem to get you excited girl.
Let it go and enjoy being in softcore without that expectation of cummmmmming....The answer you gave just left him confused and hanging. I would have asked you what time of the day, week or month are you in the mood?
Let it go and take some time off. You are here to be a sexy, teasing host that stimulates guys fantasies in whatever way you choose. You are not in hardcore any longer so change your thinking and you can still get great results and please the ones that like you. Goodluck Girl!!
I think that you should not take it so personal. You certainly had voices that spoke up for you. So a few people spoke their thoughts that it should not be the job of the person paying to excite you when you're not in the mood if you do offer masturbation in your room. So the answer would be to chance losing a customer by telling them "no" when they ask if you will at a time when you're not aroused.
Good grief you've moved to softcore where it certainly isn't expected in general so if someone asks in chat if you will or comes in and asks in open just say "no" and not that you have to be aroused by the guy. All women need to be excited to truly get excited...it's call foreplay and when you work on here and say you're not in the mood it's not like going to bed and telling the guy that you want to have foreplay to get excited. On here it strikes them more like the wife that says I have a headache.
Either say yes or no. I understand what the guy was saying that posted the message. Why is he paying to excite you to do your job? He doesn't look at it that way. If you advertise it then they think you should do it. You are in the right category now but why do you feel that you need to try and make it their problem to get you excited?
It's a yes or no answer for what ever mood you are in.
In softcore why do you feel that you need to masturbate and cum??
It certainly is not expected so why make that an option if you don't feel like it?
OMG I have written as much as you did just trying to calm you and let you understand that when guys come here they are thinking you are ready and waiting...the last thing they want to hear is I have to be in the mood or stimulated....that is way too close to reality. You probably just don't understand it was your wording at the time so you have said your peace. Your profile is now drawing attention and I am sorry but you sound like you are mad at the world and hate men if they don't foreplay you.
This is fantasy and if you don't want to do that part you certainly don't have to fake it, or do it at all. Just don't make it their problem to get you excited girl.
Let it go and enjoy being in softcore without that expectation of cummmmmming....The answer you gave just left him confused and hanging. I would have asked you what time of the day, week or month are you in the mood?
Let it go and take some time off. You are here to be a sexy, teasing host that stimulates guys fantasies in whatever way you choose. You are not in hardcore any longer so change your thinking and you can still get great results and please the ones that like you. Goodluck Girl!!
RE: Ok enough is enough,
This post was not written in anger nor was it posted in anger, frustration yes, but not anger. As I said I would not have even responded if not for the fact that people have been coming to me in my room and taking stripes off me. I didnt know about the post till it was brought to my attention.
This post is simply to inform something was taken out of context and to put it into the context that it said and meant. so that once said then maybe people would stop coming to my room and text just to rip strips off me for something that meaning was completely changed.
When asked if I do something I do say no. but then when i made that statement, i was being asked what will it take for me to do the explicit and I simply said in order to do it, I have to be aroused. that was it, I as was not asking anyone to. I was answering what was asked me. and this problem has come up since changing categories. I did not know answering two questions would cause so much trouble.
This post is simply to inform something was taken out of context and to put it into the context that it said and meant. so that once said then maybe people would stop coming to my room and text just to rip strips off me for something that meaning was completely changed.
When asked if I do something I do say no. but then when i made that statement, i was being asked what will it take for me to do the explicit and I simply said in order to do it, I have to be aroused. that was it, I as was not asking anyone to. I was answering what was asked me. and this problem has come up since changing categories. I did not know answering two questions would cause so much trouble.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
Ashley, thank you for taking the time to be up front and honest. In this economy when every dollar is hard to come by it's refreshing to hear this from a host. maybe if the member spent some time in chat with you before going to video they wouldn't have these problems. And if they don't want to spend the money to arouse you in video perhaps it can be done in Private Chat then switch to video at the appropriate time. Guess I'll get bashed for this post but just offering my opinion.
Best of luvck in your hosting and private sessions.
Best of luvck in your hosting and private sessions.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
wow. if i wanted to hear a woman complain and ramble on endlessly i would have stayed married
RE: Ok enough is enough,
Just seems some are a bit more touchy or sensitive and need to explode with a long email chastising guys for their personal opinion which is a bit on the b*tchy side. It could have been handled with more grace than fury.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
Some members just love whinning around. Yes we read all the time how they complain about hosts tricking them into video and then when they are in the session a host doesnt do what she promised to do in text chat (which is fair to complain about). They complain about hosts lieing about meeting in real or about feelings "yes,baby, i missed u and u mean so much to me, ure special to me."(which is also fair to complain). They complain about stalling, asking 100500 questions in vid when she agreed to preform. (fair to complain about too). I never do any of these things. Im always honest about what i do or dont do in video. I always say that its just a job for me and im not looking for anything real. If i agreed to show in text chat, i start preforming right away. I seem to be a good host, right? But no, im being trashed on a regular basis, for some ridiculous and imaginary reasons. And it was never mentioned even in my defence in any thread about me.
Seriously, dont pay attention to viewers forum, there will always be complains, a bunch of members just cant live without putting hosts down (usually those are popular and beautiful hosts). They can do it all they want, by the way, when such threads appear it always bring me additional traffic, and i earn 2-3 times more than usual. As there is no such thing as bad publicity :) Enjoy hosting :)
Seriously, dont pay attention to viewers forum, there will always be complains, a bunch of members just cant live without putting hosts down (usually those are popular and beautiful hosts). They can do it all they want, by the way, when such threads appear it always bring me additional traffic, and i earn 2-3 times more than usual. As there is no such thing as bad publicity :) Enjoy hosting :)
RE: Ok enough is enough,
Sounds like you do a good job to me, if what you said is accurate. Keep doing what your doing.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
Yes it was just another post that convinced me that I am right to ignore everything that is written on the viewers forum.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
Or, maybe it would be even cooler if you contributed to that forum in a more useful way. I mean it's fine to not care about what's there, but you took the time to write here, so seems maybe you do care. Personally, I'd like to see the forums be better.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
I have no desire to "spill the beans" on any of my cam sessions be they good or bad. From my experience posting a good review just get's the host a bashing from the large number of Neanderthals that frequent that forum. And posting a negative review may help those Neanderthals (something which I have no desire to do).
As for your "helpful" post on the viewer's forum, as leavis says, it was not really that much more helpful than the post that you derided.
As for your "helpful" post on the viewer's forum, as leavis says, it was not really that much more helpful than the post that you derided.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
Which post did I deride exactly? Because that was not a response to any particular post. It was an illustration to say that when you post about multiple girls the diversity of the opinions should give it more credibility. If you didn't care for my review that's fine. It's your right to have your own opinion, I'm only stating mine. Personally the problem I have with anyone that is referencing only one girl and using an all good or all bad result is that you either sound like you were asked to do it, or you sound like a whiner. I reviewed ten girls, some were really good, some were really bad, and some were in between. Either way it shouldn't seem like I was put up to it, or that I am whiny. Hopefully that was the result.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
Why would information be something someone else shouldn't have? When you go to buy something in a store do you never see any opinions on the product or do you just buy it and hope for the best? I don't see why saying I like this for this reason or that reason, or I don't like this for this reason or that reason would be something that people should not be told. You told me that you didn't like what I had said when we spoke but you never really said why. And idk, maybe as a host you don't ever want anyone to divulge anything about if someone does a good session or a bad one. But I'm sorry hon, on this you really don't get to have a vote, because you do not pay for this, we do. Of course if I'm selling a product I would hope nobody writes a bad review. But as the consumer, I DEFINITELY want to know. I may not agree with what someone else says, but I still want the information because I am spending my own money. When you become the person spending the money you can then decide to say or not say whatever you like.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
If he does not want to do a review of someone that is perfectly fine. It's not a requirement, but just as well there is NOTHING wrong with someone that does. Furthermore, you should not even be reading those reviews to begin with as they are posted in the viewer only forum. There is a reason that it says viewers only, it isn't intended for you. It is not your business. INYF has a right to an opinion on this matter, you however do not. He is a member, you are not.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
And one more thing, I never said anything about people needing to accept my truth. Anything offered was nothing more than an opinion, which is my right to share.
RE: Ok enough is enough,.... Pls everyone....
Please everyone, don't fight, There has been enough anger thrown around in these forums to last till hell freezes over....
All I am going to ask is that:
1. If you have a problem with a host tell her what she did, if she cares she will make the effort to change it and not do it to someone else.
2. Make sure that what you post is accurate, read all that a person writes, (be it in forums, or a hosts text, or in video) don't just pick out parts and then throw them around, because that can and do cause a lot of problems that can be avoided.
3. If a host or a member says something, before jumping on them, and writing out of spite ask them, to be sure that you what you read is what they meant.
4. Yes we all get angry, and tempted to write out of spite, and when one writes out of spite, then the true facts are distorted and not even seen. let alone known, and that just causes others to add to it not even realizing what has happened.
5. Please remember there are so many different nationalities on here, that it is easy to misunderstand what is said, especially if the mother language is not English...and that goes for both hosts and members...We can not have fun if we do not communicate in ways that each of us understands.
We all here for our own reasons, members are here for different desires. one members desire one day may not be the same the next day. So please don't get upset or angry when a host says what brings you here. we are not mind readers and no we do not know what your request is because there are so many different ones. So please just tell us. so we can say yes or no or recommend a different area of the site that caters to what your desire is.
Good night everyone. hugggggggggggggggggggg
All I am going to ask is that:
1. If you have a problem with a host tell her what she did, if she cares she will make the effort to change it and not do it to someone else.
2. Make sure that what you post is accurate, read all that a person writes, (be it in forums, or a hosts text, or in video) don't just pick out parts and then throw them around, because that can and do cause a lot of problems that can be avoided.
3. If a host or a member says something, before jumping on them, and writing out of spite ask them, to be sure that you what you read is what they meant.
4. Yes we all get angry, and tempted to write out of spite, and when one writes out of spite, then the true facts are distorted and not even seen. let alone known, and that just causes others to add to it not even realizing what has happened.
5. Please remember there are so many different nationalities on here, that it is easy to misunderstand what is said, especially if the mother language is not English...and that goes for both hosts and members...We can not have fun if we do not communicate in ways that each of us understands.
We all here for our own reasons, members are here for different desires. one members desire one day may not be the same the next day. So please don't get upset or angry when a host says what brings you here. we are not mind readers and no we do not know what your request is because there are so many different ones. So please just tell us. so we can say yes or no or recommend a different area of the site that caters to what your desire is.
Good night everyone. hugggggggggggggggggggg
RE: Ok enough is enough,
First and foremost Ashley is very honest. I only had one pvt but it was a very pleasant chat. I am also very honest. And I said as politely as I could that I respected her very much and thought she was an outstanding woman, but in my opinion, the cam business is better suited for women 18 to 30. I thanked her for her time and rated her 5 stars.
Again in my opinion, I think her post here is response to the thread in the Viewer Forum was not the right thing to do. Why? Because expanding on this subject only gives credence to the moron that posted it. No host has ever been trashed as much as Monicababe and I have never seen her post in the General Forum to protest against any thread. In my opinion, I think she has the thick skin needed to be a cam girl. And not everyone can be a cam girl.
And as classy and as nice a lady as Ashley is, maybe there are better choices for her than being a cam girl.
Again in my opinion, I think her post here is response to the thread in the Viewer Forum was not the right thing to do. Why? Because expanding on this subject only gives credence to the moron that posted it. No host has ever been trashed as much as Monicababe and I have never seen her post in the General Forum to protest against any thread. In my opinion, I think she has the thick skin needed to be a cam girl. And not everyone can be a cam girl.
And as classy and as nice a lady as Ashley is, maybe there are better choices for her than being a cam girl.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
It doesn't matter how good she looks for her age. The average 18 - 30 year old looks much better and much fresher. Men are 100% visual. That is not an opinion, it has been proven time and again in clinical studies.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
I know several hosts here that are over 30 that still look good, and a lot of the ones that say they are under 30, actually are over 30, lol. Yes, the average person looks better when they are younger, but I wouldn't put some artificial age limit on anything. And some of the older hosts are willing to do more kinky type of things and might be better suited for members into those type of things.
Bottom line: if I think she's hot, I will be willing to visit her regardless of age (as long as she is at least 18, lol). And it also can get annoying trying to hold a conversation with some of the 18 to 22 year olds, not that conversation is my first priority, but I still like being able to chat sometimes.
Bottom line: if I think she's hot, I will be willing to visit her regardless of age (as long as she is at least 18, lol). And it also can get annoying trying to hold a conversation with some of the 18 to 22 year olds, not that conversation is my first priority, but I still like being able to chat sometimes.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
I was in an open session with Ashley and experienced first hand a sample of what she has been trying to express here. A viewer entered. she politely advised him she was busy with someone already. Unfortunately that was not good enough for this viewer, as he proceeded expressing his anger.
Not only was he typing for all to read but he was also using his sound and shouting at her. He called her every name in the book as well as names I have not heard any man call a female he went on and on about the post and the comments attached to it.
She started to calmly try and explain to him but he cut her off sharply and continued on with his rantings. It was nothing to do with a show as he made it clear he had not been in before.
No host nor anyone for that matter should ever have to endure what she did in that session all because of part of a conversation that was misinterpreted. I was soo angry I wanted to step in but she said no it would only add fuel to the fire.
Now some would have thrown their hands up and ran away, some would have gave him his own medicine back, but instead she let him finish and leave, counted to 10, smiled and continued on with our session. So yes I very much understand why she posted.
To all hosts...I admire what you put up with from members who have no clue how to show a little respect. Keep up the good work.
Not only was he typing for all to read but he was also using his sound and shouting at her. He called her every name in the book as well as names I have not heard any man call a female he went on and on about the post and the comments attached to it.
She started to calmly try and explain to him but he cut her off sharply and continued on with his rantings. It was nothing to do with a show as he made it clear he had not been in before.
No host nor anyone for that matter should ever have to endure what she did in that session all because of part of a conversation that was misinterpreted. I was soo angry I wanted to step in but she said no it would only add fuel to the fire.
Now some would have thrown their hands up and ran away, some would have gave him his own medicine back, but instead she let him finish and leave, counted to 10, smiled and continued on with our session. So yes I very much understand why she posted.
To all hosts...I admire what you put up with from members who have no clue how to show a little respect. Keep up the good work.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
Seen her the other night, and she was the perfect host and answered every question i had. And enjoyed her company very much. ty dear.
RE: Ok enough is enough,
Have seen her a few times, and for the most part the sessions, were good, and yes I have caught her in a bad day, when guy's come in open session and start in on her.. For most part she handles the situation better than most would. As for the honest part, she has been most of the time with me, few instances where she was not, but was to my benefit. No one is honest al the time. Bottom line, give her credit for writing on here knowing all comments good or bad would be coming her way. Over all she is not perfect, but no host is. But I will continue to see her, cause in the end it is an enjoyable time.
RE: Ok enough is enough,......I just wanted to say ...
Thank you to everyone, I know what I did was out of the norm and yes if there had been another of dealing with the misinterpretation of one part of the post, I would have done it.
The rest of the post did get me to step back and wonder if maybe I had been carrying too much negative without realizing it, which all of us do at times when it comes to work and life in general.
I know that I upset some for even responding to a post in viewer, and some of you made that very clear and I expected that. But, at the same time looking threw this thread, you all took the time to actually read it, understand it and be supportive with your responses, and for that I thank you very much.
If I promise to try to be good, may I come out of the corner now? lool
The rest of the post did get me to step back and wonder if maybe I had been carrying too much negative without realizing it, which all of us do at times when it comes to work and life in general.
I know that I upset some for even responding to a post in viewer, and some of you made that very clear and I expected that. But, at the same time looking threw this thread, you all took the time to actually read it, understand it and be supportive with your responses, and for that I thank you very much.
If I promise to try to be good, may I come out of the corner now? lool
a request
hey all chat hosts. you dont have to do this request but i would appreciate it if you do.
if you do not mind i would appreciate if you can have a photo on your profile page that is close to what you look like that day, hair style etc. maybe even a photo you took just that day would be nice. for instance, if i see a photo of you with long dark curly hair, and i go into your room and it is blond and cut short, it is kind of a shock.
when i see your photo on the profile that is what draws me in. it is what starts to get me excited. when i go into your room and discover that you have drastically changed your look it is like throwing ice water on me.
so it is a request, you can ignore it if you like. but i would really appreciate if your profile photo is either taken for that session, or taken on a day when you looked a similar style. up to you.
if you do not mind i would appreciate if you can have a photo on your profile page that is close to what you look like that day, hair style etc. maybe even a photo you took just that day would be nice. for instance, if i see a photo of you with long dark curly hair, and i go into your room and it is blond and cut short, it is kind of a shock.
when i see your photo on the profile that is what draws me in. it is what starts to get me excited. when i go into your room and discover that you have drastically changed your look it is like throwing ice water on me.
so it is a request, you can ignore it if you like. but i would really appreciate if your profile photo is either taken for that session, or taken on a day when you looked a similar style. up to you.
RE: a request
I think that is totally ignoring what the member is asking. His request was reasonable....Look like a resemblance to you photo that you display.
Maybe he doesn't care what your personality is if you don't look like the photo (especially hair color) that you lured him into your room. How deceptive is that? How can he even trust you if you start out with deception?
His post and request is very simple and reasonable unless you are a deceptive host trying to lure guys into your room when you don't even resemble your pic. Obviously a profile picture makes a difference is why you wouldn't put your worst pic up. Don't dog him!
Maybe he doesn't care what your personality is if you don't look like the photo (especially hair color) that you lured him into your room. How deceptive is that? How can he even trust you if you start out with deception?
His post and request is very simple and reasonable unless you are a deceptive host trying to lure guys into your room when you don't even resemble your pic. Obviously a profile picture makes a difference is why you wouldn't put your worst pic up. Don't dog him!
RE: a request
I never expect toys in Glam. Hell I don't expect anything in Glam. Most profiles in Glam have something like have no expectations and you can never be disappointed. I'm not complaining, I'm just being honest.
RE: a request
Write your own request post instead of going into attack for his simple request. I don't believe how quickly some hosts are to attack the very ones that pay your bills....amazing!!
RE: a request
I always do - to save us the trouble of coming in and asking - what do you wear today?!
RE: a request
I like hosts who have lots of pictures and keep them current. Some hosts update almost on a daily basis...that is good business in my opinion. Then there are the hosts who have one picture and it is of their feet or finger nails...seriously?
it's easy
if the host's most recent archive pics are 3 years old, most times i wont even bother - it probably means she is lazy or has something to hide. if i enter a room and she looks nothing like the pics, or is a different girl, or has put on 10 kilos, or - most of all - she is now 7 months pregnant, i stay my one minute, don't say anything, then leave and give one star. it's false advertising and i won't stand for it...
RE: a request
If doing pics every day is too much for you, then at least take a picture of yourself when there is a drastic change in your appearance, such as hair color, or hair length, curly or straight hair, or if u all of a sudden grow a third eye, or if you are wearing a wig for a change in your appearance.
RE: a request
Seriously? You really just said taking a picture is too much work? Do you have to process film or something? Because I thought all you had to do was click the mouse button?
Not trying to be a dick but you really would have been better off not speaking there. Maybe next time you go to McDonalds the drive thru person will ask you to come inside because they are tired.
All the guy is suggesting is that you give the viewers an opportunity to see what you look like TODAY. There are countless times where you see a girl, who has outstanding outfits in her pics, looks perfect in them and the viewer says "i want to see THAT girl" then you go in and the girl is wearing something hideous, hasn't put any makeup on and pretty much doesn't look at all like she looks in the pics. That is quite often going to end up with the viewer leaving right away, and possibly you getting a bad rating. That leaves both of you angry, all because it was too difficult to click the mouse and take the picture.
Not trying to be a dick but you really would have been better off not speaking there. Maybe next time you go to McDonalds the drive thru person will ask you to come inside because they are tired.
All the guy is suggesting is that you give the viewers an opportunity to see what you look like TODAY. There are countless times where you see a girl, who has outstanding outfits in her pics, looks perfect in them and the viewer says "i want to see THAT girl" then you go in and the girl is wearing something hideous, hasn't put any makeup on and pretty much doesn't look at all like she looks in the pics. That is quite often going to end up with the viewer leaving right away, and possibly you getting a bad rating. That leaves both of you angry, all because it was too difficult to click the mouse and take the picture.
RE: a request
Yeah if that is the case I would suggest a career change then. Because if these small things are too tedious, then it's very unlikely that you care enough about your viewer to offer them a good session. Good chathosts take pride in their work. I guess you can do this job only worrying about the money you are making on each individual session but you are missing the point. Pics are what causes a viewer to visit your session, and good sessions are what causes a viewer to come back. Repeat business is where the money is really at. And you can't consistently get repeat business by being half assed at this job. Trust me, there are other girls out there that are willing to give the effort that you aren't giving. But hey who cares right?
RE: a request
I totally agree with you and am shocked at the stories I hear about how common it is for a guy to go into a room and the profile pic does not look a thing like her. Sad that hosts or studio bosses are either deceptive by putting a pic up of a host that is not the host in the room or the host doesn't want to bother to put the energy she did for that one photo.
I am also disgusted with the hosts here defending hosts actions or trying to attack without cause.
This is a fricken job and some are not mature or ambitious enough to do their job well. Then they complain about the one second guys and the low rating they left them....lol.
I am also disgusted with the hosts here defending hosts actions or trying to attack without cause.
This is a fricken job and some are not mature or ambitious enough to do their job well. Then they complain about the one second guys and the low rating they left them....lol.
RE: a request
that is sort of what i was trying to get at too. i understand hosts being upset about '1 minute guys'. but for me the reason i am a 1 minute guy often is because i enter, see the host looks much different, and decide to leave. i dont mind and i enjoy pics that are in the archives. but i would truly appreciate if the photo on the profile page was from the current session. this way i am not so surprised when i enter. and like i said before it is only a request, so each host do as you will. but perhaps this post sheds some light on why you have so many guys who enter and leave right away.
RE: a request
You are completely right and there is nothing wrong with your request, having even one pic each day you are online helps a member to see what you are wearing that day, if it is an outfit he likes then he may come see you, but if not then you loose out. unless you are a host who has the regular viewers you want and you do not want any others. then ok ....
What would you like for Christmas?
Its about time we started the list. Ladies and gentle please do not vere from the topic and keep it nice and neat. So i will start!
I need some new console (xbox and PS3) games for kids? Any suggestions
I need some new console (xbox and PS3) games for kids? Any suggestions
RE: What would you like for Christmas?
I would like Bradley Cooper for Xmas, or Friends TV show complete series on DVD that goes together with the huge poster or a mug, or whatever they put to the box as well :)
RE: What would you like for Christmas?
i got the whole friend series on dvd and have not watched it in years , its all yours .
RE: What would you like for Christmas?
OMG you like Bradley Cooper. geesh....Its over between us. What a wimp.
RE: What would you like for Christmas?
Ure the first person i met who actually doesnt like him!
RE: What would you like for Christmas?
I want to be with someone special for me on that day :)
RE: What would you like for Christmas?
I want to be 20 years younger. No make that 30 years younger.
RE: What would you like for Christmas?
I don't want anything for myself, though receiving something would be nice.
But Christmas is not really about "getting" it is about "giving"
What I want is what Christmas wants - peace and goodwill for people
But Christmas is not really about "getting" it is about "giving"
What I want is what Christmas wants - peace and goodwill for people
RE: What would you like for Christmas?
I would like one of my favorite hosts to visit me for the holidays....parties, dining, gifts and then... a few days of 121...wink wink...nudge nudge...
RE: What would you like for Christmas?
I want Tinychic and Monikababe for christmas , is that too much to ask :P
RE: What would you like for Christmas?
Haha Bradley Cooper, is that u?? Oh well, that would be way too much to ask, but after all, xmas time is time for miracles! So who knows?)
RE: What would you like for Christmas?
Oh, God..Ok im changing my mind, now that is my xmas wish too :(
RE: What would you like for Christmas?
You forgot and to visit all hosts to satisfy that tool...hehe
RE: What would you like for Christmas?
It is very simple, I do not want nor need any bought gifts or anything material, all I want for Christmas is for my love to be home so I can hold him, tell him how much I love him and have missed him, and not let a day or moment go by that he does not know or feel how much he is appreciated and loved, and to give him all the love he deserves...
RE: What would you like for Christmas?
I want that Christmas present (but from someone else) :P
Reflections
Just setting here in front of the fire on a cold rainy night and I got to thinking ..... just like Andy Rooney used to on 60 Minutes. In thid world of political correctness where you can't compliment an attractive lady on her figure because it's " Sexual Harrassment " how should we be viewing sites such as this? Are companies like CC to be called Pimps - after all the definition of a Pimp is a person who derives income from women and men selling themselves.
Are chat hosts to be labled Prostitutes - for the definition of a Prostitute is a person who sells their body for money. Are members really not perverts but Johns - for the definition of a John is a person who pays for sex. Just thinking in this politically correct world. Good Noight and God Bless .
Are chat hosts to be labled Prostitutes - for the definition of a Prostitute is a person who sells their body for money. Are members really not perverts but Johns - for the definition of a John is a person who pays for sex. Just thinking in this politically correct world. Good Noight and God Bless .
RE: Reflections
we dont sell our bodies here, just a picture of a body (thats different). it was told already many times, chat-hosts are more strip-teasers than prostitutes by any definition. :P
RE: Reflections
and again stop having so unfair bad images of prostitutes and escorts!
why do you desperately want to make a difference between selling yourself in here as a camgirl or out there as one of my escorts? what is so bad being a little cheap and slutty in your very professional ways? not every girl can overcome herself and do that! why is this differentiation bugging you camgirls so much? for many people there is no difference how you sell yourself to guys. if you want to work here on this great site you should accept the field you are working in.
for me there is no difference. and why should there be? it is a job in the sex business on a sex site. it is sexual satisfaction vs money. and as long as all are satisfied i still wonder why the big fuzz. it does not make all of you bad persons, just special. we guys need your services since in the real world it is still forbidden to walk up to a stranger cute face and start jerking off to her while she has to watch. but you are all cool to be used and serving what a paying stranger tells you to do. that is what makes you professionals in here all so great and successful!
so stop thinking too much about that and we all start enjoying this great site! i just did not like the tone against my escorts. we guys need what you professionals do for us and we gladly share a bit of our hard earned money with you wonderful wonderful openhearted girls in a respectful professional way!
j
why do you desperately want to make a difference between selling yourself in here as a camgirl or out there as one of my escorts? what is so bad being a little cheap and slutty in your very professional ways? not every girl can overcome herself and do that! why is this differentiation bugging you camgirls so much? for many people there is no difference how you sell yourself to guys. if you want to work here on this great site you should accept the field you are working in.
for me there is no difference. and why should there be? it is a job in the sex business on a sex site. it is sexual satisfaction vs money. and as long as all are satisfied i still wonder why the big fuzz. it does not make all of you bad persons, just special. we guys need your services since in the real world it is still forbidden to walk up to a stranger cute face and start jerking off to her while she has to watch. but you are all cool to be used and serving what a paying stranger tells you to do. that is what makes you professionals in here all so great and successful!
so stop thinking too much about that and we all start enjoying this great site! i just did not like the tone against my escorts. we guys need what you professionals do for us and we gladly share a bit of our hard earned money with you wonderful wonderful openhearted girls in a respectful professional way!
j
RE: Reflections
Where does her post indicate that she has a bad attitude to prostitutes and escorts. A prostitute or escort sells direct access to her body and provides the sexual satisfaction to the punter herself. A chathost (or porn star or stripper) sells her image the stimulation for the viewer to satisfy himself. In your limited view of the world it may all be the same but if you actually discussed it with some prostitutes you would realise there is a big difference. I am not sying that prostitutes are worse people than chathosts, just that their work is different. In the same way there is a big difference between stripping in front of a camera by yourself in a room and stripping on a stage in front of a crowd of cheering (or sometimes jeering) men.
RE: Reflections
If you so like call cam-girls as prostitutes, it's you problem. But I should tell you that if you meet some cam-girls in real world you have no any chances to get laid with them, even for money. :P Keep dreaming though.
RE: Reflections
Actually it is how your mind has accepted what you have chosen to participate in. If you asked a girl or woman that would never consider this as a decent job they would certainly tell you that they are one in the same because you have no modesty and you are desperate to do this so to the world outside of this you could be considered equal to what was written.
I think it's interesting how our minds will defend our own actions and yet judge others..... To many you are just the same as your argument against....
I think it's interesting how our minds will defend our own actions and yet judge others..... To many you are just the same as your argument against....
RE: Reflections
In each of our lives, aren't we all a little bit prostitute, a little bit pimp, a little bit john?
I like to thinks so.
Kisses
I like to thinks so.
Kisses
RE: Reflections
as they say in the real world,,,outside of the porn sites-chat sites-people are real, whatever they do or become in life doesn't have to be a reflection, just look in the mirror, step back and ask yourself do I really care what people think- just relax, stay calm and nothing will change that reflection
RE: Reflections
I couldn't even read your entire post because I started choking when you compared working here to Hooters and VS. I don't see them showing bare breasted ever....so stop right there with your trying to convince others of your model image.....it certainly is not the same!
RE: Reflections
It's certainly a lot closer to Hooters and VS than it is to prostitution. But if you'd stopped choking long enough you may have seen that what she was actually saying is, that by the opening poster's reasoning, they were the same thing. In fact she then goes on to say that they are indeed different.
RE: Reflections
Hmm...maybe she never show off her bare breast, how can you know it for sure? Many non-nude hosts at CC.
Then again, this kind of activity (I mean hosting) is more than to show off yourself and encourage to fantasies so its really close to modelling lingerie (especially in softcore cats) than prostitution, as no real sex involved here.
Then again, this kind of activity (I mean hosting) is more than to show off yourself and encourage to fantasies so its really close to modelling lingerie (especially in softcore cats) than prostitution, as no real sex involved here.
RE: Reflections
"Many non-nude hosts at CC. "
No truer words have ever been spoken. Thank you.
No truer words have ever been spoken. Thank you.
RE: Reflections
You sell your time with no clothes on teasing a male for money while he is looking forward to cumming from excitement. There is a notable difference from just selling your time or professional expertise to stimulating the opposite sex for money.
RE: Reflections
She said she is in NON-ADULT category, so go and read rules of that category, before posting here about no clothes on.
RE: 20 minuets minimum...
if you had me in your video,i'm guessing you would hope,pray probably even beg,that it was only 20 second minimum :--)
RE: 20 minuets minimum...
I understand your frustration, but there really is no perfect system. And if anything, the current system inflates the ratings.
The idea of having just one account per member is a good one for ratings. CC claims that a member cannot vote with multiple accounts but I have questions if that is true. I have heard too many hosts tell me things like they didn't have any video for a few days but their rating changed, for example, to believe that there aren't many technical difficulties with the rating system. The problem is that it could be a little difficult for CC to enforce a one account per user rule although they could greatly reduce the amount of accounts members have. And if a member could have just one account, it would make it easier for hosts to block members.
But the 10 minute idea, wth all due respect, is ridiculous. I have had plenty of hosts do things such as not be on cam for more than a minute, ignore me during the first minute, be rude in that first minute, et cetera. I am sure that you have had guys come into your video and act in a rude way in the first 10 seconds. Well, a few hosts do the same. Why shouldn't they get 1 star in those cases? But I would make it that the member must stay one complete minute instead of his ability to stay 10 seconds before he can vote to at least give the host a chance to win him over. He is billed for the first minute even if he stays less, but he can vote right away. And I probably wouldn't mind if the member had to stay at least 2 full minutes before voting to be a bit more fair to the host. But more than that is unfair to the member. I've had plenty of problems in the first one or two minutes for me to have to wait 10 minutes before I give 1 star.
Despite your worries about the rating system, however, go through the ratings of hosts online at any given moment and you will see they are generally very high. Most hosts have at least 4 stars or more and a very large percentage have 4,5 or 5 stars. In my view, the ratings are way too high and if a host cannot get a high rating, then she is not doing a good job. I hear friends complain all the time about one minute guys rating them badly but at the end of the day, they still have 4,5 or 5 stars so either CC is handling the rating system well in terms of protecting hosts from one minute voters or the hosts with lower ratings simply are bad hosts.
CC will not change the rating system because of this. They like having hosts have lots of stars because it makes the site look better. A guy doesn't want to see a bunch of hosts with 1, 2 or 3 stars. He wants to think that he is on a site many hosts are really good. So CC likes the site this way. They let a host have just a few regulars that can vote two times each, give her 5 stars and bam!!! She's got 4,5 or 5 stars! That is all it takes, and a host that can't get a high rating like that really needs to ask herself if it is the one minute voter or if she is just not that good at what she does. Let members vote one time each with just one account and expand the votes from 10 to say 25 and I bet ratings would drop real fast since regulars wouldn't have as much of an impact, but it would be a lot more accurate. Neither you nor CC wants this, but I as a member sure do.
With all due respect to any host that does not like her rating, based on what I have seen her over the years, it is a lot more likely the host's fault than the member's fault if the rating is not a good one. Your real problem is that so many hosts have 4,5 and 5 stars because of rating inflation that anything less than that puts you 1/2 way down the page and guys never get to you. That would seem to indicate guys are being too generous a lot more often than they are being one minute voters so again, that seems to say to me that a host with a lower rating just isn't all that good at what she does, at least compared to other hosts here.
And another thing, you can always open a new account for free if your rating is too low. Some hosts do this. Wouldn't it be fair to limit you not just to two accounts online at the same time, but two accounts period? Unless you leave a studio, why should a host be able to open several accounts and just use the one or two with the highest stars, for example? If we are going to make changes here, let's make sure they are fair to everyone.
The idea of having just one account per member is a good one for ratings. CC claims that a member cannot vote with multiple accounts but I have questions if that is true. I have heard too many hosts tell me things like they didn't have any video for a few days but their rating changed, for example, to believe that there aren't many technical difficulties with the rating system. The problem is that it could be a little difficult for CC to enforce a one account per user rule although they could greatly reduce the amount of accounts members have. And if a member could have just one account, it would make it easier for hosts to block members.
But the 10 minute idea, wth all due respect, is ridiculous. I have had plenty of hosts do things such as not be on cam for more than a minute, ignore me during the first minute, be rude in that first minute, et cetera. I am sure that you have had guys come into your video and act in a rude way in the first 10 seconds. Well, a few hosts do the same. Why shouldn't they get 1 star in those cases? But I would make it that the member must stay one complete minute instead of his ability to stay 10 seconds before he can vote to at least give the host a chance to win him over. He is billed for the first minute even if he stays less, but he can vote right away. And I probably wouldn't mind if the member had to stay at least 2 full minutes before voting to be a bit more fair to the host. But more than that is unfair to the member. I've had plenty of problems in the first one or two minutes for me to have to wait 10 minutes before I give 1 star.
Despite your worries about the rating system, however, go through the ratings of hosts online at any given moment and you will see they are generally very high. Most hosts have at least 4 stars or more and a very large percentage have 4,5 or 5 stars. In my view, the ratings are way too high and if a host cannot get a high rating, then she is not doing a good job. I hear friends complain all the time about one minute guys rating them badly but at the end of the day, they still have 4,5 or 5 stars so either CC is handling the rating system well in terms of protecting hosts from one minute voters or the hosts with lower ratings simply are bad hosts.
CC will not change the rating system because of this. They like having hosts have lots of stars because it makes the site look better. A guy doesn't want to see a bunch of hosts with 1, 2 or 3 stars. He wants to think that he is on a site many hosts are really good. So CC likes the site this way. They let a host have just a few regulars that can vote two times each, give her 5 stars and bam!!! She's got 4,5 or 5 stars! That is all it takes, and a host that can't get a high rating like that really needs to ask herself if it is the one minute voter or if she is just not that good at what she does. Let members vote one time each with just one account and expand the votes from 10 to say 25 and I bet ratings would drop real fast since regulars wouldn't have as much of an impact, but it would be a lot more accurate. Neither you nor CC wants this, but I as a member sure do.
With all due respect to any host that does not like her rating, based on what I have seen her over the years, it is a lot more likely the host's fault than the member's fault if the rating is not a good one. Your real problem is that so many hosts have 4,5 and 5 stars because of rating inflation that anything less than that puts you 1/2 way down the page and guys never get to you. That would seem to indicate guys are being too generous a lot more often than they are being one minute voters so again, that seems to say to me that a host with a lower rating just isn't all that good at what she does, at least compared to other hosts here.
And another thing, you can always open a new account for free if your rating is too low. Some hosts do this. Wouldn't it be fair to limit you not just to two accounts online at the same time, but two accounts period? Unless you leave a studio, why should a host be able to open several accounts and just use the one or two with the highest stars, for example? If we are going to make changes here, let's make sure they are fair to everyone.
RE: 20 minuets minimum...
succinct it wasn't,but well thought out,well constructed & yes well explained.even those who disagree,can't begrudge you your opinion because it's considered & explained from your perspective.kudos :--)
RE: 20 minuets minimum...
And you being the quintessential host apologist of course disagrees with a member's very fair analysis of this topic.
RE: 20 minuets minimum...
And you just want to argue... Magnanimous is simply not a word in your vocabulary.
RE: 20 minuets minimum...
lma & thank you,you just proved that you & those of your ilk,can't see the forest for the trees.every post you make in regards to myself is tainted by your biased,preordained prejudices :--)
RE: 20 minuets minimum...
I think the ratings should be time weighted averages, the longer you are in video the more your rating counts. A one hour 5 star rating should account for more than a 1 minute 1 star rating, just as a 1 hour 1 star rating should count for more than a 1 minute 5 star rating.
RE: 20 minuets minimum...
I've considered that but I think it gives an advantage to lower priced hosts since guys may stay longer. One of my favorite hosts charges $0.60/minute and I will stay in her room for an hour or more at times. If the price is a lot higher, I certainly am not going to want to stay nearly as long or at least I am going to think twice about it.
Also, your suggestion would probably lead to additional star inflation. A one star situation usually arises within the first few minutes. I can think of exceptions of course such as when a host promises a show after chatting awhile but never strips or stalls so long that the member cannot take it any more, but usually, it probably will happen sooner than later. But the 5 star situation is most likely to occur from a longer chat. Therefore, you will automatically be overweighting the higher ratings. If the host is generally doing a good job, there is no need to do this. Just look how high the ratings are already.
If you want a more accurate, more fair system, expanding the pool from 10 to say 25 votes ( I don't think I'd go much higher than that), combined with a 2 minute minimum, one vote per member policy would work better. Plus, I wouldn't let hosts escape bad ratings with new accounts. I would let them open two accounts, and if they wanted a new one since they wanted to change their name, I would have them close an existing account and transfer those ratings to the new account. Or I would just update the software so they could change their names. This system would be much more fair and accurate and would reduce the effect of the guys that one star because they don't understand or reject the rules about soft core, are simply being vindictive or are trying to hurt one host to help another one because it would expand the sample size from 10 to 25. And it would also reduce the effect of money slaves, regulars, et cetera and give a more reflective picture of a typical session with a host.
I think some hosts just need to accept that they are not as good as other hosts here and that it isn't a bunch of idiots giving them one star that are the problem. Just look at how high the ratings are. How much of an impact can these one starring idiots really be having? And, I cannot speak for everyone, but I know that if I am paying $1,00/minute, I am going to be a lot less demanding in terms of my expectations than if I am paying $2,00/minute so if a host has lower stars, lowering her price might not just get her more video, it may actually end up increasing her rating because guys that are paying less are not necessarily expecting quite as much. Then, she can slowly begin to raise her price again and hopefully do a better job that will allow her to maintain this higher rating in the future.
Also, your suggestion would probably lead to additional star inflation. A one star situation usually arises within the first few minutes. I can think of exceptions of course such as when a host promises a show after chatting awhile but never strips or stalls so long that the member cannot take it any more, but usually, it probably will happen sooner than later. But the 5 star situation is most likely to occur from a longer chat. Therefore, you will automatically be overweighting the higher ratings. If the host is generally doing a good job, there is no need to do this. Just look how high the ratings are already.
If you want a more accurate, more fair system, expanding the pool from 10 to say 25 votes ( I don't think I'd go much higher than that), combined with a 2 minute minimum, one vote per member policy would work better. Plus, I wouldn't let hosts escape bad ratings with new accounts. I would let them open two accounts, and if they wanted a new one since they wanted to change their name, I would have them close an existing account and transfer those ratings to the new account. Or I would just update the software so they could change their names. This system would be much more fair and accurate and would reduce the effect of the guys that one star because they don't understand or reject the rules about soft core, are simply being vindictive or are trying to hurt one host to help another one because it would expand the sample size from 10 to 25. And it would also reduce the effect of money slaves, regulars, et cetera and give a more reflective picture of a typical session with a host.
I think some hosts just need to accept that they are not as good as other hosts here and that it isn't a bunch of idiots giving them one star that are the problem. Just look at how high the ratings are. How much of an impact can these one starring idiots really be having? And, I cannot speak for everyone, but I know that if I am paying $1,00/minute, I am going to be a lot less demanding in terms of my expectations than if I am paying $2,00/minute so if a host has lower stars, lowering her price might not just get her more video, it may actually end up increasing her rating because guys that are paying less are not necessarily expecting quite as much. Then, she can slowly begin to raise her price again and hopefully do a better job that will allow her to maintain this higher rating in the future.
RE: 20 minuets minimum...
0.60c per min means 18$ per hour for a host in the best case. would u like to entertain unknown people for that money? I guess no.
RE: 20 minuets minimum...
What does that have to do with anything? I said a host that I like has that price so I stay a lot longer and that would give her an advantage if ratings were based on amount of time in video. It is the same effect as if a host lowered her price for a few hours so all her regulars can come vote and then raised it later.
The only other thing that I said regarding price is that it is possible that a host could improve her rating by lowering her price since guys might expect less if they are paying less similar to when you pay more for a car, you expect it to be a better car and might be more demanding when you rate that car. I could be wrong about this idea since the lower price might attract more idiots, but generally, I think what a person pays has some relationship to what he expects to receive so a lower price could help a host boost her rating. But I never said everyone should make their price $0.60 or that prices in general were too high or anything like that. Plus, I even said the host could put her price higher after she got some higher ratings. It would just be a temporary price reduction so guys might not be as critical because they weren't paying as much.
I will also note this. I see a lot of 4 star or lower hosts with hot pics and with prices at $2,00 or more. When I see the first 30 hosts in a category with 4,5 and 5 stars, I always wonder why these other hosts have lower ratings. Are the pics real? Is she on too many sites? Does she stall? Is she doing something else wrong? The bottom line is that it raises a question in my mind since it seems so easy to get 4,5 or 5 stars so before I decide to pay this higher price, I really think things through and decide if I want to take a chance. But at say, $1.50, there is a very good chance I will come take a look, and from there, the host has her chance to earn a good rating.
Sadly, however, despite all of the complaints about ratings, more often than not, I am disappointed by hosts below 4,5 stars, and I don't think it is just a bunch of idiots giving them 1 star that gave them the lower rating. I think usually the got it because other hosts are simply better.
I know some guys are very happy with 4 star or lower hosts. All I know is that every host I enjoy seeing on a regular basis is 4,5 or 5 stars. They are in various categories and at various prices, usually up to $2.00. And I stay at least 20 to 30 minutes most of the time, and sometimes well over an hour, even if closer to the $2.00 range. But there is not a single host on this site that I see on a regular basis that is below 4,5 stars. I've had decent sessions with some of them, but in terms of repeat business, while I might go back, I don't go back on any type of regular basis. The 4,5 and 5 star hosts are not always good in my opinion, and the ones below 4,5 are not always bad, but generally, the higher the rating, the better the host so once again, I think hosts need to focus more on what they are doing and worry less about the occasional 1 star idiot. I've seen a 5 star host complain to me that she dropped to 4,5 a lot because of this, but I almost never hear a 4,5 star host having a problem of dropping to 4 stars. It is the top hosts that the idiots seem to attack, not the lower ranked ones, so if you are not in the top, it might have more to do with you than with the random idiot giving you a bad rating. And like I have said, these top hosts easily withstand such attacks because they have regulars to come vote 5 stars. Why? Because they are the better hosts and have such regulars. If you don't have enough regulars and feel you are being attacked by idiots, then maybe you need to do a better job to get these regulars.
The only other thing that I said regarding price is that it is possible that a host could improve her rating by lowering her price since guys might expect less if they are paying less similar to when you pay more for a car, you expect it to be a better car and might be more demanding when you rate that car. I could be wrong about this idea since the lower price might attract more idiots, but generally, I think what a person pays has some relationship to what he expects to receive so a lower price could help a host boost her rating. But I never said everyone should make their price $0.60 or that prices in general were too high or anything like that. Plus, I even said the host could put her price higher after she got some higher ratings. It would just be a temporary price reduction so guys might not be as critical because they weren't paying as much.
I will also note this. I see a lot of 4 star or lower hosts with hot pics and with prices at $2,00 or more. When I see the first 30 hosts in a category with 4,5 and 5 stars, I always wonder why these other hosts have lower ratings. Are the pics real? Is she on too many sites? Does she stall? Is she doing something else wrong? The bottom line is that it raises a question in my mind since it seems so easy to get 4,5 or 5 stars so before I decide to pay this higher price, I really think things through and decide if I want to take a chance. But at say, $1.50, there is a very good chance I will come take a look, and from there, the host has her chance to earn a good rating.
Sadly, however, despite all of the complaints about ratings, more often than not, I am disappointed by hosts below 4,5 stars, and I don't think it is just a bunch of idiots giving them 1 star that gave them the lower rating. I think usually the got it because other hosts are simply better.
I know some guys are very happy with 4 star or lower hosts. All I know is that every host I enjoy seeing on a regular basis is 4,5 or 5 stars. They are in various categories and at various prices, usually up to $2.00. And I stay at least 20 to 30 minutes most of the time, and sometimes well over an hour, even if closer to the $2.00 range. But there is not a single host on this site that I see on a regular basis that is below 4,5 stars. I've had decent sessions with some of them, but in terms of repeat business, while I might go back, I don't go back on any type of regular basis. The 4,5 and 5 star hosts are not always good in my opinion, and the ones below 4,5 are not always bad, but generally, the higher the rating, the better the host so once again, I think hosts need to focus more on what they are doing and worry less about the occasional 1 star idiot. I've seen a 5 star host complain to me that she dropped to 4,5 a lot because of this, but I almost never hear a 4,5 star host having a problem of dropping to 4 stars. It is the top hosts that the idiots seem to attack, not the lower ranked ones, so if you are not in the top, it might have more to do with you than with the random idiot giving you a bad rating. And like I have said, these top hosts easily withstand such attacks because they have regulars to come vote 5 stars. Why? Because they are the better hosts and have such regulars. If you don't have enough regulars and feel you are being attacked by idiots, then maybe you need to do a better job to get these regulars.
RE: 20 minuets minimum...
I guess you just got a bad rating and unfortunately it lowered your rating score. That is lousy I agree and until CC changes the system of all ratings count accumulatively it will continue.
Some positive suggestions is block hosts and guests. Always look as good as your pictures posted and be friendly in chat. Could minimize the problems.
10 or 20 min before rating is ridiculous. At least 2 min would be nice and have all ratings count and not just the last 10.
Some positive suggestions is block hosts and guests. Always look as good as your pictures posted and be friendly in chat. Could minimize the problems.
10 or 20 min before rating is ridiculous. At least 2 min would be nice and have all ratings count and not just the last 10.
RE: 20 minuets minimum...
if you're not sure what you put in there & it was a long post,it's the perfect response for here.most of us never know what we are saying & rant & rave like stoned hippies :--)
RE: to tisme
Before I type my posts, I go on a vision quest which includes putting on my tie dye shirt, getting high, and reciting ohmm ohmmm over and over. Then, once in video, I simply drop the "oh" from ohmmmm and say mmmm mmmm over and over.
RE: 20 minuets minimum...
Counting every rating is not a good idea in my view because it doesn't accurately reflect how a host is doing lately. Also, it would allow a long time host to treat a guy poorly and get away with it because she would know one poor rating wouldn't have any effect on her overall rating. Similarly, it would not allow a host that is just average because she was more shy when she first started out, had poor English, et cetera to overcome lower scores for a very long time as she got better at her job. I guess she could just open a new account, but I would have a policy that her rating would follow her anyway to prevent that type of attempt to get around a poor rating and limit the number of accounts she had.
This is why I think something around 25 with each member only being allowed to vote once would be a better way to go. It reduces the effect of a few poor votes and it also doesn't let just a few regulars artificially inflate a score. And it is still a fair reflection of how good a job a host is doing lately. Plus, it would encourage her to be more consistent in terms of doing a good job since a few regulars couldn't control the voting so much.
But despite all the complaints from hosts, I still think they should be happy with the current system. I think the ratings are way too high and members don't really get a lot of good information from them. Just a few loyal customers and they've got 4,5 or 5 stars. That is really all it takes. And on those days that a few idiots jump into video for one minute, a host can just say she is sad about her rating to a few "friends" without saying more so she is not violating any rules and we all know what will happen... The rating will be back to were it was the next day. And for those hosts that don't have a few loyal guys to fix the rating, once again, with all due respect, I think that you probably are not doing that good of a job and probably don't deserve a higher rating.
The only way I would adopt the idea of counting all votes would be to allow short reviews like another site does so at least I can see if the rating is still reflective of how the host is doing lately. I still prefer my idea even if the reviews were included, but at least such reviews would reduce my objections a bit. Even with reviews, I still see many long time "veteran" hosts that used to be good hosts and have 5 stars do really poor shows at that other site and generally won't go there. Take away their 2500 votes or more, lol, and reduce it to 25, and I bet the quality of the shows would increase at that other place.
This is why I think something around 25 with each member only being allowed to vote once would be a better way to go. It reduces the effect of a few poor votes and it also doesn't let just a few regulars artificially inflate a score. And it is still a fair reflection of how good a job a host is doing lately. Plus, it would encourage her to be more consistent in terms of doing a good job since a few regulars couldn't control the voting so much.
But despite all the complaints from hosts, I still think they should be happy with the current system. I think the ratings are way too high and members don't really get a lot of good information from them. Just a few loyal customers and they've got 4,5 or 5 stars. That is really all it takes. And on those days that a few idiots jump into video for one minute, a host can just say she is sad about her rating to a few "friends" without saying more so she is not violating any rules and we all know what will happen... The rating will be back to were it was the next day. And for those hosts that don't have a few loyal guys to fix the rating, once again, with all due respect, I think that you probably are not doing that good of a job and probably don't deserve a higher rating.
The only way I would adopt the idea of counting all votes would be to allow short reviews like another site does so at least I can see if the rating is still reflective of how the host is doing lately. I still prefer my idea even if the reviews were included, but at least such reviews would reduce my objections a bit. Even with reviews, I still see many long time "veteran" hosts that used to be good hosts and have 5 stars do really poor shows at that other site and generally won't go there. Take away their 2500 votes or more, lol, and reduce it to 25, and I bet the quality of the shows would increase at that other place.
RE: 20 minuets minimum...
Look, if you are getting slews of bad ratings from people that are not staying long there is a very good possibility that you are doing something wrong. I do not think there are very many viewers wanting to go into a room and leave a minute or two later upset. That is a waste of money. However, there are many hosts that do not appreciate the fact that we the viewer are the customers, we are paying for entertainment and deserve to be treated well. If i have to wait 5-10 mins of a session for the host to start doing whatever it is that I'm requesting then that is ridiculous. Now I'm not saying that if you don't say you are willing to strip that you should receive a bad score for not stripping (although lets be real, this is an adult website, it is a common sense expectation). But if you say you are willing to, then we should be able to start within a reasonable amount of time. And by reasonable I mean a few hi's, whats your name what did you want to see, and let's start. If you aren't willing to have this lengthy conversation with members that are in the free text chat, then you should not be expecting them to pay for the conversation in video. Also, like someone else said, take pictures that are accurate. If you use fake pictures, or pictures that are distorted or altered to make you look like something you are not, you are no helping yourself. You may get the viewer in for a brief moment but they are going to leave and you are going to get a bad rating.
Respect your CUSTOMERS and remember that a member that comes for 10 minutes 10 times is better than a member that comes for 30 mins once. If you treat your viewers well they will treat you well. It's a respect thing, and trust me when I say, the viewer usually comes up on the short side of this. I think that if you do these very simple things, you will have the rating that you hope for.
Respect your CUSTOMERS and remember that a member that comes for 10 minutes 10 times is better than a member that comes for 30 mins once. If you treat your viewers well they will treat you well. It's a respect thing, and trust me when I say, the viewer usually comes up on the short side of this. I think that if you do these very simple things, you will have the rating that you hope for.
RE: 20 minuets minimum...
Very well said! Funny how every host that gets a bad rating blames the member....hello but it could be a time for self reflection!!
RE: 20 minuets minimum...
Men have a natural way of stopping the clock called ejaculation. Just like men roll over and fall asleep in real sex...once a god pops his cork he wants to leave the video and take a shower. That could happen in the first few minutes or...longer depending on his endurance, the hottness of the host and the size of his wallet. I for one like volume and variety...so....20 minutes wouldn't work for me.
RE: 20 minuets minimum...
Where do you get that information from?? I haven't seen that anywhere
RE: 20 minuets minimum...
if the minimum time required to rate a host was 20 minutes then certainly almost all ratings would be 5 stars, why would i stay in a vid for 20 minutes if i find out in the first 2 minutes that the host looks nothing like her pictures or she has promised in text chat to be naked right away but is not fulfilling that promise or any of a number of other reasons why i might think 1-2 stars was appropriate
so i am supposed to stay there for another 18 minutes to rate her? i don't think so
so i am supposed to stay there for another 18 minutes to rate her? i don't think so
RocknGirl / VeryActress / Nadira / WebActress4u / DesertRose
The first two profile names above are the most recent.
She's gorgeous, but it has been impossible to get more than just chat, no matter how patient, polite, and flattering.
And don't fall for the dance routine either. She'll make you leave the room and come back in private so that she can change into her dance outfit, but it covers *more* of her, not less. The dance itself takes forever, isn't as sexy as she thinks, and she doesn't read what you type while she's dancing. So once she starts, you're basically locked in for another ten minutes, unless you want to be rude and just leave.
She is, however, SO beautiful. So...if her new profile names are an indication that she has changed, and is now willing to get it on, please post here! I want to know!
She's gorgeous, but it has been impossible to get more than just chat, no matter how patient, polite, and flattering.
And don't fall for the dance routine either. She'll make you leave the room and come back in private so that she can change into her dance outfit, but it covers *more* of her, not less. The dance itself takes forever, isn't as sexy as she thinks, and she doesn't read what you type while she's dancing. So once she starts, you're basically locked in for another ten minutes, unless you want to be rude and just leave.
She is, however, SO beautiful. So...if her new profile names are an indication that she has changed, and is now willing to get it on, please post here! I want to know!
RE: RocknGirl / VeryActress / Nadira / WebActress4u / DesertRose
i agree with all you say truth teller. I saw the magic breasts once but it took a lot of time & money. She really is not comfortable showing in my opinion. This was when she was relatively new to cc.
RE: RocknGirl / VeryActress / Nadira / WebActress4u / DesertRose
I know RIGHT?
She is too such a temptation, because as truth tellr say, she is "SO gorgeous."
I want to add one thing: how much $$$ does she think one willing to spend just to hear her talk adn talk about her acting career? I am russian and i never seen her on TV or stage, but she tells lies that she is.
She is too such a temptation, because as truth tellr say, she is "SO gorgeous."
I want to add one thing: how much $$$ does she think one willing to spend just to hear her talk adn talk about her acting career? I am russian and i never seen her on TV or stage, but she tells lies that she is.
RE: RocknGirl / VeryActress / Nadira / WebActress4u / DesertRose
huge cans, but very few pics of her showing below the waist. is she a bit thick down there?
RE: RocknGirl / VeryActress / Nadira / WebActress4u / DesertRose
As far as I know, she's not especially thick down there. See WebActress4u, 26, March, 2010. There are two pics showing her full - length.
Just *look* at that face and those beautiful breasts.
If only she was genuinely turned on by being a hostess on this site, as some of the more willing / hornier hostesses are. She could rule this site. I'd default on every credit card spanking it with her!
Just *look* at that face and those beautiful breasts.
If only she was genuinely turned on by being a hostess on this site, as some of the more willing / hornier hostesses are. She could rule this site. I'd default on every credit card spanking it with her!
RE: RocknGirl / VeryActress / Nadira / WebActress4u / DesertRose
dear "another." Being an American, I could never tell if she was telling the truth about her acting career.
You are right about one thing; she does talk about it a lot. It would be really sad if that is all lies!
You are right about one thing; she does talk about it a lot. It would be really sad if that is all lies!
RE: RocknGirl / VeryActress / Nadira / WebActress4u / DesertRose
Why is this not in the viewer's forum?
Are you looking for hosts' opinions too? lol
Are you looking for hosts' opinions too? lol
RE: RocknGirl / VeryActress / Nadira / WebActress4u / DesertRose
oops..I made a mistake. I have both pages bookmarked and clicked on the wrong one.
but we all know that hostesses are on the viewer forum, too, so it doesn't really make a huge difference, does it?
but we all know that hostesses are on the viewer forum, too, so it doesn't really make a huge difference, does it?
RE: RocknGirl / VeryActress / Nadira / WebActress4u / DesertRose
I have seen those tits are they were huge...and juicy... I think s has lost a little weight around them now and not as big...
russian man on this site.... dont understand why you arent out shagging them for real...you lucky man,
russian man on this site.... dont understand why you arent out shagging them for real...you lucky man,
RE: RocknGirl / VeryActress / Nadira / WebActress4u / DesertRose
how long did it take you to get her to take it off?
was she horny?
was she horny?
never seen so few hosts on?
is there a contest soon or is the internets just broken? i notice that usually the week before a contest there are a lot less hosts on.
RE: never seen so few hosts on?
there is no contest coming, however many studios in romania are under police eye right now:((((
post re Pls No Faking, it gets a 1 from me posted sept 2
viewer forum about faking... would be nice to have had some of you reply to jerksauce's post on this, rather than just having those saying they don't care if hosts fake....
would be nice to hear responses to that post too from those who don't like it....loool
would be nice to hear responses to that post too from those who don't like it....loool
RE: post re Pls No Faking, it gets a 1 from me posted sept 2
The question was asked fairly of viewers who are the customers here. Sorry you're mad no one cares.
RE: post re Pls No Faking, it gets a 1 from me posted sept 2
ohhh i nooo i just wondering why those that dont like fakes didnt respond to the question in viewer forum.
Maybe I would not have had to waste my money on what is usually a good host as now I caught her faking, when I asked her why she not just say she not in the mood like she has said before, which is fine, her response was she saw the post in viewer forum where most members answered the question saying they don't care if hosts fake......that is only reason I asked this question.....might have kept a host that normally does not fake from starting to fake .....Now I have to try find another, which is a shame because usually she says that she is not wanting to go that far.
Maybe I would not have had to waste my money on what is usually a good host as now I caught her faking, when I asked her why she not just say she not in the mood like she has said before, which is fine, her response was she saw the post in viewer forum where most members answered the question saying they don't care if hosts fake......that is only reason I asked this question.....might have kept a host that normally does not fake from starting to fake .....Now I have to try find another, which is a shame because usually she says that she is not wanting to go that far.
RE: post re Pls No Faking, it gets a 1 from me posted sept 2
"ohhh i nooo i just wondering why those that dont like fakes didnt respond to the question in viewer forum."
Maybe its because no one cares if they fake. Why didn't you ask this in the thread in the Viewer Forum?
Maybe its because no one cares if they fake. Why didn't you ask this in the thread in the Viewer Forum?
RE: post re Pls No Faking, it gets a 1 from me posted sept 2
It would be foolish to assume that any hosts are not faking it. To orgasm in multiple videos day after day is unlikely. The bottom line is if the host is a convincing actress then...who cares. It is a fantasy. I did have a host from Brazil who was a friend. A few times a week before I went to work we would go online and do it together...I am pretty sure that was the real deal...I miss Cinderellla.
RE: hey:d
if/when u come to holland u need to register at the local city hall...u MUST have a place to live...they will give u a "sofi" number and u can then legally start working by urself...they have no problems providing u have a valid home address....good luck
RE: hey:d
yeah u do...they need to know ur whereabouts...here is a quote for the requirements
"To register with the municipality, the following conditions need to be met:
EU citizens need to present a valid passport or identity card. Non-EU citizens must have a valid residence permit (verblijfsvergunning) or be in the process of applying for one;
Applicants must reside in the municipality in which they registered for at least four continuous months of the six-month period following registration."
"To register with the municipality, the following conditions need to be met:
EU citizens need to present a valid passport or identity card. Non-EU citizens must have a valid residence permit (verblijfsvergunning) or be in the process of applying for one;
Applicants must reside in the municipality in which they registered for at least four continuous months of the six-month period following registration."
RE: hey:d
just fyi i already know that....read THIS part
"Applicants must reside in the municipality in which they registered for at least four continuous months of the six-month period following registration."
and dont say "that's only for non eu citizens" i'm from england...i moved to holland last year..i know how it works
"Applicants must reside in the municipality in which they registered for at least four continuous months of the six-month period following registration."
and dont say "that's only for non eu citizens" i'm from england...i moved to holland last year..i know how it works
RE: hey:d
yeah, but i bet that had more to do with the fact that you're a beautiful young woman:)
RE: hey:d
u got it in 5 mins? thats bullshit...it takes at least 7 working days for them to recieve it back at the city hall where u then need to go back to collect it
RE: hey:d
so why r u commenting saying i was wrong if YOU got urs THREE years ago when I clearly stated i moved here LAST YEAR? think about it
Veteran hosts; Do you rely mainly on repeat business?
Do you mainly just focus on returning regular viewers and more or less pay little attention to new viewers? I have run across a few hosts that seem to have password protected sessions at a discount for their loyal regular viewers. Also do you ever do free shows for loyal viewers? And do you ever do free shows for viewers who have helped you win contests?
another blonde joke
Two blondes were waiting at the Pearly Gates and struck up a
conversation.
First blonde says "How did you die?"
Second says "I froze to death".
First blonde says "Must have been awful."
Second blonde says "How did you die?"
First blonde says "I had a heart attack, I knew my husband was
being unfaithful so I came home unexpectedly one day and rushed
to the bedroom and found my husband alone reading. I rushed to
the basement and nobody was hiding there, I rushed to the attic
and still no one, and after all that rushing around I had a
heart attack and died."
Second blonde says, "If only you'd looked in the freezer we'd
both still be alive."
conversation.
First blonde says "How did you die?"
Second says "I froze to death".
First blonde says "Must have been awful."
Second blonde says "How did you die?"
First blonde says "I had a heart attack, I knew my husband was
being unfaithful so I came home unexpectedly one day and rushed
to the bedroom and found my husband alone reading. I rushed to
the basement and nobody was hiding there, I rushed to the attic
and still no one, and after all that rushing around I had a
heart attack and died."
Second blonde says, "If only you'd looked in the freezer we'd
both still be alive."
Top names for a business or brand
Went past a sandwich shop today called Fine Baps, and saw something in a supermarket called Gentleman's Relish.
Made me think of CC.....
Any other quality names?
Made me think of CC.....
Any other quality names?
RE: Top names for a business or brand
Best ever name: Ridgid Tools. they make the best pipe wrenches. and they know the name has 2 meanings. they used to give out the hottest calendars that you would see in plumbing and mechanical shops with bikini babes holding long wrenches!
RE: Yaroslavl
This morning a friend from yaroslavl told me about the accident so I felt a bit of a connection, plus I am a hockey fan. About an hour later, on the radio, I learned that one of the victims played hockey for my favorite NHL team in the USA and that he was the coach of the team on the plane. And reading a little more, it looks like there were players from several countries on the plane.
It is a tragedy that touched a lot of people all over the world. R.I.P. and may their families and friends find a way to deal with such a great loss.
It is a tragedy that touched a lot of people all over the world. R.I.P. and may their families and friends find a way to deal with such a great loss.
RE: Yaroslavl
No idea whether there was an attempt to make an emergency landing on the river, but what a contrast between those remains on the shore of the Volga, where life of so many young sportsmen ended brutally, and remembrances of walks in nice company along the same river on a sunny day. My sympathy goes to those who lost a family member or a friend in this tragedy
RE: Yaroslavl
untrue there was a few famous on the plane including Pavol Demitra great player great guy... RIP
Are there any improvements you would like to see here on CC?
Was just curious to hear if anyone had any suggestions.
RE: Are there any improvements you would like to see here on CC?
1) rating sistem. guy can rate only after 10 minute of video. 2)contests only 4 times a year.. 3)would like to have preview video for maybe 10 seconds..
RE: Are there any improvements you would like to see here on CC?
Disagree I like to surprise hosts and see what there really doing - especially the hosts who claim they never undress on videos.
RE: Are there any improvements you would like to see here on CC?
sure, they do. u never noticed it?
RE: Are there any improvements you would like to see here on CC?
Gem, I'm sure that many members and hosts would love you ,if u invite all of us to your house for party :P
RE: Are there any improvements you would like to see here on CC?
good thing hosts dont run this site. or do they?
RE: Are there any improvements you would like to see here on CC?
Even a dude like me ? One that is old and ugly and that the thought of having him in your video room makes you feel physically sick ?
See I knew you loved me really Gems :P
See I knew you loved me really Gems :P
RE: Are there any improvements you would like to see here on CC?
Gem you don't know how much it turns me on to know I arouse such strong emotions in you :P
RE: Are there any improvements you would like to see here on CC?
Yeah, I hate that alarm when a member come in ... its annoying ... no alarm please lol
RE: Are there any improvements you would like to see here on CC?
(1) Video teaser sessions for long time members (2) alarm button that doesn't go off (3) No fake photos from host-must be their photos always (4) drop some of the categories- to many (5) community chat room after 30 minutes of in-activity for both host and members-should be disconnected (6) twelve month contest-not enough here (7) only allowed one member and host names (8) hired me to approved all the new host (women only) to make sure they do get in the right category, since we have to many as is (9) cc yearly party in Alaska (10) Members Profiles or Members Page with brief information. {Thanks CC for the good years-Thanks CC Models for the fun}
RE: Are there any improvements you would like to see here on CC?
a better search engine, where we could check multiple characteristics rather than having to choose just one each time.
for example, I don't want to have to choose "straight" OR "bi," and limit my options. Both are okay with me.
Hair can be long OR shoulder length, not one or the other.
And "Big Bust" should be included among the body type options. "Cuddly" sounds like a euphemism for "fat" but there's already "BBW" which fulfills that function.
I also think that we should be able to sort LIVE hostesses more ways than just by the degrees of shyness.
We should be able to sort by body type!
for example, I don't want to have to choose "straight" OR "bi," and limit my options. Both are okay with me.
Hair can be long OR shoulder length, not one or the other.
And "Big Bust" should be included among the body type options. "Cuddly" sounds like a euphemism for "fat" but there's already "BBW" which fulfills that function.
I also think that we should be able to sort LIVE hostesses more ways than just by the degrees of shyness.
We should be able to sort by body type!
RE: Are there any improvements you would like to see here on CC?
I'd like to see a brief window of opportunity to cancel a session, maybe 30 seconds. If I enter a session and this girl is not the girl from the pics, or maybe was the girl in the pics 30 pounds ago I'd like to be able to back out and not have to be billed for the worthless minute that I was in there. And that session should not be rateable. That way it keeps both sides honest. I can't keep going in there to sabotage the host, and the host doesn't win a dollar for fooling me.
Dubai
who are you talking about?? no one here has that name...
how to get a guest visa?? where to search for info??
Thanks
how to get a guest visa?? where to search for info??
Thanks
Please tell me how an IA hosts wins 13 cc contests?
For that matter how does anyone win 13 contests? The host I am talking about is MYBEAUTY4U.
I have played many of these contests, but always with softcore hosts, who specialize in chatting. So how the hell does a host who is supposed to do instant nude shows winning all these contests? There is something very wrong with this picture.
I have played many of these contests, but always with softcore hosts, who specialize in chatting. So how the hell does a host who is supposed to do instant nude shows winning all these contests? There is something very wrong with this picture.
RE: Please tell me how an IA hosts wins 13 cc contests?
I agree. She could only win these contests with the help of members, and she's obviously extremely attractive. As far as I know, she didn't cheat to win these contests.
Why don't you rewrite the contest rules so that IA hosts can't participate? That would go over real well, I'm sure... Otherwise I don't understand why you have a beef.
Why don't you rewrite the contest rules so that IA hosts can't participate? That would go over real well, I'm sure... Otherwise I don't understand why you have a beef.
RE: Please tell me how an IA hosts wins 13 cc contests?
oooops, I was replying to bewildered, not you, T.
RE: Please tell me how an IA hosts wins 13 cc contests?
"If it was JUST a question, there would have been no name of the host, there wouldn't have been any judgemental remark adressed to her."
That's not the case. If there was no name someone would have asked which host has won 13 times. I will add that another IA host has won 5 times, that being Wilone. These are facts , not opinions and not judgmental. These facts can be easily verified unlike the claims made by the "white knights" responding to this post.
That's not the case. If there was no name someone would have asked which host has won 13 times. I will add that another IA host has won 5 times, that being Wilone. These are facts , not opinions and not judgmental. These facts can be easily verified unlike the claims made by the "white knights" responding to this post.
RE: Please tell me how an IA hosts wins 13 cc contests?
There you go with your twisted rhetoric again. The fact one IA host has won 5 contests and another has won 13 demonstrates nothing except the fact that you can count.
"So how the hell does a host who is supposed to do instant nude shows winning all these contests? There is something very wrong with this picture."
How is that statement not judgmental?
"So how the hell does a host who is supposed to do instant nude shows winning all these contests? There is something very wrong with this picture."
How is that statement not judgmental?
RE: Please tell me how an IA hosts wins 13 cc contests?
"... how the hell does a host who is supposed to do instant nude shows winning all these contests? There is something very wrong with this picture."
You really don't consider that the least bit judgmental?
You really don't consider that the least bit judgmental?
RE: Please tell me how an IA hosts wins 13 cc contests?
Captain Obvious, thanks for stating what everyone can know but no one really needs to know! You amaze me with your "expert" knowledge on all things.
RE: Please tell me how an IA hosts wins 13 cc contests?
Honestly I don't think it was right for you to attack the original poster. It actually was advertising for her anyway. I am so surprised at why some need to come forth and fight someone elses battles when it might not be a battle at all for them.
Chill out T!!
Chill out T!!
RE: Please tell me how an IA hosts wins 13 cc contests?
I don't play the competitions much but, when I do, I have played with several Instant Action hosts. As most of them allow you one go after each $5 you spend then what you do is have your show and then play the game at the end. Some of the competitions do not even need any participation at all such as the valentines puzzle where you get awarded pieces of the puzzle when you leave the video.
In my opinion, MYBEAUTY4U deserves every one of her 13 wins.
In my opinion, MYBEAUTY4U deserves every one of her 13 wins.
RE: Please tell me how an IA hosts wins 13 cc contests?
"I don't play the competitions much"
Well I do and with the newer contests, not the puzzles, you are busy playing to game. And even if you say you play the game at the end of the show, it costs you that much extra to play the game. And if you chat in IA like you do in softcore, it defeats the whole purpose of the category which says if you don't have time for small talk, this is the category for you.
Well I do and with the newer contests, not the puzzles, you are busy playing to game. And even if you say you play the game at the end of the show, it costs you that much extra to play the game. And if you chat in IA like you do in softcore, it defeats the whole purpose of the category which says if you don't have time for small talk, this is the category for you.
RE: Please tell me how an IA hosts wins 13 cc contests?
Yes it cost me more to play the game at the end of the show but I would rather do it that way than continually interrupt the show every time I had spent $5. But that doesn't bother me as I realise that, even although the hosts in IA agree to an immediate show, at the other end is a person with feelings. It's also a thank you to the host for giving me a show rather than wasting my time which seems to happen a lot to certain members. So in the end I am quids in :P
RE: Please tell me how an IA hosts wins 13 cc contests?
"I realise that, even although the hosts in IA agree to an immediate show, at the other end is a person with feelings."
I've not seen anyone ever post otherwise. But to read the cc guidelines and choose IA for chit chat is analogous to reading about buying new VW, then going to a Toyota dealer to buy it. And it makes me wonder if guys like you with maybe more money than we average viewers, go to chat in IA just to be disruptive to the rest of us. I'm not accusing you of doing this, but it is certainly a possibility with at least some other viewers.
I've not seen anyone ever post otherwise. But to read the cc guidelines and choose IA for chit chat is analogous to reading about buying new VW, then going to a Toyota dealer to buy it. And it makes me wonder if guys like you with maybe more money than we average viewers, go to chat in IA just to be disruptive to the rest of us. I'm not accusing you of doing this, but it is certainly a possibility with at least some other viewers.
RE: Please tell me how an IA hosts wins 13 cc contests?
yea i'm sure ppl go to IA to chitchat just to piss ppl like u off, not becos they happen to like that host and it is comp time and she is good at comp or some more plausible reason.
RE: Please tell me how an IA hosts wins 13 cc contests?
I posted below, in the other Instant Action thread, by mistake. There I made the point about the puzzles, but yes, there are contests you need to be more active and it costs more money to play if you wait until the end. Of course, then you can take a few extra turns too.
I also noted that maybe CC should suspend category rules during contests so that viewer expectations are different. And since I believe a host can only play with one member at a time for things like word contests, that also eliminates the problem of the first viewer wanting to play the contest and the second viewer in open wanting a show in not so shy and instant action. Just suspend the category rules so we're all on the same page and treat everything like soft core. I guess all the hard hosts that want to play could switch categories but that could make things too confusing. Then again, newer viewers that don't know about contests and the suspension of the rules might get confused instead.
Hmmm. Maybe we should have mandatory nudity and masturbation during contests for all categories, even non adult, to make things easier, lol.
I also noted that maybe CC should suspend category rules during contests so that viewer expectations are different. And since I believe a host can only play with one member at a time for things like word contests, that also eliminates the problem of the first viewer wanting to play the contest and the second viewer in open wanting a show in not so shy and instant action. Just suspend the category rules so we're all on the same page and treat everything like soft core. I guess all the hard hosts that want to play could switch categories but that could make things too confusing. Then again, newer viewers that don't know about contests and the suspension of the rules might get confused instead.
Hmmm. Maybe we should have mandatory nudity and masturbation during contests for all categories, even non adult, to make things easier, lol.
RE: Please tell me how an IA hosts wins 13 cc contests?
"Just suspend the category rules so we're all on the same page and treat everything like soft core."
There are already a number of hardcore hosts that do that on a regular basis.
There are already a number of hardcore hosts that do that on a regular basis.
RE: Please tell me how an IA hosts wins 13 cc contests?
You are like some softcore hosts seem obsessed with the rules. The main unwritten rule in adult site should be "getting pleasure in the way you like". So if a memeber want chat in IA...why not? Many members ask hardcore in softcore...so who gives a shit about?
RE: Please tell me how an IA hosts wins 13 cc contests?
There seems to be a trend lately in the forums to imply that members should be obliged to follow the limits of adult categories: According to these posters if a member enters an IA host's vid he must tell her to get naked immediately. If he goes to not shy he must require her to get naked without too much delay. I go to video to have fun with girls I find attractive and I want to have that fun in the way I choose. Depending on my mood and the language skills of the host I may want a quick show or I may chat for a while. If I am in open video and someone else enters I have no problem if they request the host to do something but I strongly object to this idea that I am somehow "breaking the rules" if i do not demand an adult host to do an adult show.
RE: Please tell me how an IA hosts wins 13 cc contests?
To be fair, I'm not picking on any particular host. Another IA host named Wilone has won 5 contests. So its more about the category not any particular host.
RE: Please tell me how an IA hosts wins 13 cc contests?
Well how many hosts hast won 13 times? Or even 5? By the way 5 is outstanding, 13 is incredible. I have several favs in softcore who may have won 2 and stay on line for hours and hours. And even more who have not won at all. I have seen members post they stay away from the site during contest time. I know hosts that stay away as well for their own reasons. There is at least the perception by myself and others that things aren't just right. Yes I did say perception, not fact. I never represent opinion or perception as fact as so many other posters like to do.
RE: Please tell me how an IA hosts wins 13 cc contests?
In order to win a contest host should find a good rich admire who ready to make true all her desires, because other guys used to chose to play with hosts who got some score already.....so then her score getting bigger and bigger and host wins. That is all the secret. But without good help from rich admire that do almost impossible even for popular host, most regulars stay away from all contests, also because they not ready to spend more than usual they spend.
RE: Please tell me how an IA hosts wins 13 cc contests?
Thank you for your very honest and straight forward post. It would appear she has many rich money slaves. Good for her.
RE: Please tell me how an IA hosts wins 13 cc contests?
There obviously is luck involved, but yes, a host has the best chance of winning when she has guys spending a lot of money in video.
And look at the contests she has won. Five are puzzles so that is just getting lots of video and being lucky. Now we're down to 8. One was top 20 easter which says it was based on viewers voting so again it just means she made guys happy. There were also some word challenges and all those take is some luck and a good word list that is loaded into excel, and while I didn't play with her, I am guessing her members were the ones driving things based on my impression that her english is okay but not great. And a couple were games that may have had some level of skill that you developed as you played them which she may or may not have been helpful with.
It is very possible that all that is happening here is exactly what you have said and most of us already know. Hosts with the most video win more than others. I would think that would be obvious. She may be a bit luckier than others (five puzzles is a lot) but ultimately it is her members driving things in all liklihood. And for all we know, it is just one or two guys spending lots of money and coming armed with good word lists, et cetera helping her each time.
She is just a popular host which, until now, has not been talked about all that much in forums. There isn't really a big mystery here but she would seem to be a bit more lucky than some. I don't think the category matters since at contest time cc stops being a porn site and becomes contest central, lol. And maybe she is getting a lot of 121 during contests too and the member isn't asking for a show.
Again, there really is no mystery here. I can understand why someone that is new to cc might think IA hosts do nothing but get naked, but they do chat and interact with members too. And at $2,00 open and $2,80 121, her price is pretty reasonable compared to a lot of glamour and little shy hosts. In fact, $2,80 121 is a bargain compared to hosts that I consider to be of the same quality that are in soft core.
The real mystery is why she doesn't raise her price. Perhaps people should be posting about others being greedy and having brainless money slaves instead of attacking a good host.
And look at the contests she has won. Five are puzzles so that is just getting lots of video and being lucky. Now we're down to 8. One was top 20 easter which says it was based on viewers voting so again it just means she made guys happy. There were also some word challenges and all those take is some luck and a good word list that is loaded into excel, and while I didn't play with her, I am guessing her members were the ones driving things based on my impression that her english is okay but not great. And a couple were games that may have had some level of skill that you developed as you played them which she may or may not have been helpful with.
It is very possible that all that is happening here is exactly what you have said and most of us already know. Hosts with the most video win more than others. I would think that would be obvious. She may be a bit luckier than others (five puzzles is a lot) but ultimately it is her members driving things in all liklihood. And for all we know, it is just one or two guys spending lots of money and coming armed with good word lists, et cetera helping her each time.
She is just a popular host which, until now, has not been talked about all that much in forums. There isn't really a big mystery here but she would seem to be a bit more lucky than some. I don't think the category matters since at contest time cc stops being a porn site and becomes contest central, lol. And maybe she is getting a lot of 121 during contests too and the member isn't asking for a show.
Again, there really is no mystery here. I can understand why someone that is new to cc might think IA hosts do nothing but get naked, but they do chat and interact with members too. And at $2,00 open and $2,80 121, her price is pretty reasonable compared to a lot of glamour and little shy hosts. In fact, $2,80 121 is a bargain compared to hosts that I consider to be of the same quality that are in soft core.
The real mystery is why she doesn't raise her price. Perhaps people should be posting about others being greedy and having brainless money slaves instead of attacking a good host.
RE: Please tell me how an IA hosts wins 13 cc contests?
"And at $2,00 open and $2,80 121, her price is pretty reasonable compared to a lot of glamour and little shy hosts. In fact, $2,80 121 is a bargain compared to hosts that I consider to be of the same quality that are in soft core."
I don't disagree, but there are many members on site that would. I've seen dozens of posts saying anything over $1 is too high. And suggesting any host charge more is risking putting you in the money slave category.
I don't disagree, but there are many members on site that would. I've seen dozens of posts saying anything over $1 is too high. And suggesting any host charge more is risking putting you in the money slave category.
RE: Please tell me how an IA hosts wins 13 cc contests?
I jump from host to host to host. I am only a slave to my own desires, lol. And I try to focus on lower priced hosts. But some of the more expensive hosts are worth it too.
Money slaves are guys that visit the same host, or perhaps a couple of them, and just go into the room and chat for hours and send presents. They love a particular host and want to spoil her because she is so beautiful and therefore feel she deserves to be spoiled. I never do that. I've helped people such as paid for their school because I care about them, but I never just send a bunch of money for presents or send a lot of gifts just to spoil someone.
Money slaves are guys that visit the same host, or perhaps a couple of them, and just go into the room and chat for hours and send presents. They love a particular host and want to spoil her because she is so beautiful and therefore feel she deserves to be spoiled. I never do that. I've helped people such as paid for their school because I care about them, but I never just send a bunch of money for presents or send a lot of gifts just to spoil someone.
RE: Please tell me how an IA hosts wins 13 cc contests?
You paid for a girl's school? Wow! You must be rich. I'm in awe of your financial prowess. I have my hands full paying for my own kid's school. The term money slave is new to and I am not qualified to say who is and who isn't one. But I think some members may put you in that category.
RE: Please tell me how an IA hosts wins 13 cc contests?
I wasn't paying for Oxford or Harvard, lol. School costs about 500 euro a semester in some countries, and I have helped a number of people try to have better lives that way. It isn't all that much, at least not to me. I've spent double that in a contest, lol, but at least I won a few times.
RE: Please tell me how an IA hosts wins 13 cc contests?
Well I'm sure you got much satisfaction in helping someone. It is better to give than receive.
RE: Please tell me how an IA hosts wins 13 cc contests?
Actually I did Google and Wikipedia it. Wiki has nothing and Google has Dom sites for money slaves. But my post about love and money slave was done in a kidding manner.
RE: Please tell me how an IA hosts wins 13 cc contests?
and what? 13 or 113 why u bother.she is nice person and beauty.peoples like her, she is veteran host,,she earn money for site .she deserve to win.she is not the only one from IA who always win.its what important. go ask her urself.
RE: Please tell me how an IA hosts wins 13 cc contests?
When I go to IA, it is not to play a contest. It is to see an erotic nude show, nothing else.
RE: Please tell me how an IA hosts wins 13 cc contests?
She worked hard and kept her members happy and that in turn had them willing to play the contests with them.
Good for them. IA hosts deal with alot in that category, I know I could not handle being in IA category.
Good for them. IA hosts deal with alot in that category, I know I could not handle being in IA category.
RE: Please tell me how an IA hosts wins 13 cc contests?
Actually it is not terribly complex to work out as the defacto format for most competitions is member spends X * Y$=P(Success). Ie. Hosts who can charge more increase the probability per member to complete the puzzle, picture, word game, battleships. This particular host has well established PR. Hence sufficient regulars to complete the tasks. Did anyone really think the competitions were ever about randomness?
RE: Please tell me how an IA hosts wins 13 cc contests?
"Did anyone really think the competitions were ever about randomness? "
You nailed it!
You nailed it!
Dubai
I am curious if any hosts or viewers have experience with single women obtaining a tourist visa traveling to Dubai from Russia, Ukraine,etc. Is it possible, what may be the best way for her, etc etc. Any information will be appreciated.
RE: Dubai
i am a businessman in dubai and meet with camgirls and escorts here. your girl needs a visa. hotel, airlines and so on can do this and they also can look into the needed insurance. it is illegal if they 'work' here with a tourist visa, so be careful! other possibilities also exist but it is complicated so you should go to amer page or call their hotline.
but do it because you will have your fun for sure if it works out and you behave well! just avoid to give her your true identity or permanent phone number and keep her services professional!
jarle
but do it because you will have your fun for sure if it works out and you behave well! just avoid to give her your true identity or permanent phone number and keep her services professional!
jarle
RE: Dubai
I am from Russia, and travelled to Dubai some years ago. I hadnt problem to get tiurists visa. I was alone and stayed there for 1 week at the seashore hotel. I was only like a tourist. What else do you want to know?
RE: Dubai
You say "I was alone and stayed there for 1 week at the seashore hotel"? Sure that right hahahaha Why not you come to USA? :P
Instant Action?
Over time I've seen much complaining about softcore hosts and while some may be justified, I think much is not. I have issues with IA. OK there are a number of hosts that based on their archives, I have no interest in taking pvt. But for those I have seen, there are some great hosts, but there are quite a few that need to be in softcore. And it is rare I see anything posted about them. All I see in the Viewer Forum is non stop Tver Girls. I guess guys are too embarrassed to post they were spun around by IA hosts. There are similar issues in Not So Shy as well. In fact NSS is worse in my opinion in terms of hosts not doing what they agreed to when they signed into that category.
I separate the categories this way;
Glamour/Little Shy non expectations
Not So Shy/Instant Action expectations
So I have no issues when I have no expectations, but when I do have expectations and they are not met, then I have issues. I think members have to report these non producing hosts so cc can move them from NSS and IA and into softcore where they belong.
I separate the categories this way;
Glamour/Little Shy non expectations
Not So Shy/Instant Action expectations
So I have no issues when I have no expectations, but when I do have expectations and they are not met, then I have issues. I think members have to report these non producing hosts so cc can move them from NSS and IA and into softcore where they belong.
RE: Instant Action?
I don't know if I have some magic powers or maybe I just manage to pick all the "bad" girls from their profile pics but I have never had any issues with either NSS or IA girls.
Also when a LS or G girl has agreed to strip for me in text chat I have never been disappointed (in the sense that she did not fulfil her part of the agreement).
As for complaining it's not really my style as it seems rather pointless. So if it did happen to me I would just move on.
Also when a LS or G girl has agreed to strip for me in text chat I have never been disappointed (in the sense that she did not fulfil her part of the agreement).
As for complaining it's not really my style as it seems rather pointless. So if it did happen to me I would just move on.
RE: Instant Action?
Awhile back, you posted that you usually or always go 121, at least I think you have. And perhaps you also are willing to chat for awhile even in instant action while in 121. If I am correct, that may be why you don't run into the stallers and scammers, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen, that a member should be forced to go 121 for a show when a category doesn't require it or that he shouldn't complain to get a credit if his complaint is reasonable such as an instant action host not providing instant action.
As for the original question, depending on the nature of the contest, you can get a show and play the contest afterwards especially if it is something like a puzzle contest where you don't even do anything to play except spend money. And there is nothing wrong with chatting with an instant action host. I've done it many times. The issue is when you do it in open and then another member comes along, although this usually doesn't happen even with more popular hosts.
By the way, I think CC should perhaps suspend the category rules requiring shows during contests and say that soft core rules apply to all categories to avoid problems because there are hard core hosts that don't like to perform at contest time and it can cause problems.
As for the original question, depending on the nature of the contest, you can get a show and play the contest afterwards especially if it is something like a puzzle contest where you don't even do anything to play except spend money. And there is nothing wrong with chatting with an instant action host. I've done it many times. The issue is when you do it in open and then another member comes along, although this usually doesn't happen even with more popular hosts.
By the way, I think CC should perhaps suspend the category rules requiring shows during contests and say that soft core rules apply to all categories to avoid problems because there are hard core hosts that don't like to perform at contest time and it can cause problems.
RE: Instant Action?
Sorry, I responded to two different threads at once. Lots of complaints about IA lately.... It's getting confusing, lol.
RE: Instant Action?
I was about to point that out to you :P
Yes you're right I always go 121 and while I do not really chat much (unless it's nasty sex chat) I always ask the host to get fully dressed before the show starts and it can take 15 - 20 mins before I see anything. So maybe by that point they think I deserve it :P
Yes you're right I always go 121 and while I do not really chat much (unless it's nasty sex chat) I always ask the host to get fully dressed before the show starts and it can take 15 - 20 mins before I see anything. So maybe by that point they think I deserve it :P
RE: Instant Action?
A lot of what INYF says is tongue-in-cheek, but what's wrong with having he host dress up? Some guys enjoy watching a woman dressing... some guys enjoy the full strip, as erotic preparation for what is to follow, as opposed to the host already being in starting position. For some guys, it's not about "slam bam, thank you ma'am" but about mystique and suspense and the build up of erotic desire. There is nothing unbelievable in what INYF said (even if he was speaking tongue-in-cheek).
RE: Instant Action?
"For some guys, it's not about "slam bam, thank you ma'am" but about mystique and suspense and the build up of erotic desire."
I agree completely. And that is why there are several categories. And IA is set up for the "slam bam" guys. Read the category descriptions. Everyone talks about cc has something for everyone with all the categories. But now there are guys that want to redefine categories to their liking pushing aside an cc guidelines. Well if you're going to do that, why have categories?
Some time back I suggested just one category and just girls, no gays or trannys etc. And I was shouted down by scores of both hosts and members for suggesting any changes to the site. And you and INYF were most likely in that chorus calling for me to banned from the site for even suggesting such changes. And now you essentially agreeing with that suggestion as you advocate ignoring the site category guidelines and having the hosts and members do as they choose in their pvt rooms.
I agree completely. And that is why there are several categories. And IA is set up for the "slam bam" guys. Read the category descriptions. Everyone talks about cc has something for everyone with all the categories. But now there are guys that want to redefine categories to their liking pushing aside an cc guidelines. Well if you're going to do that, why have categories?
Some time back I suggested just one category and just girls, no gays or trannys etc. And I was shouted down by scores of both hosts and members for suggesting any changes to the site. And you and INYF were most likely in that chorus calling for me to banned from the site for even suggesting such changes. And now you essentially agreeing with that suggestion as you advocate ignoring the site category guidelines and having the hosts and members do as they choose in their pvt rooms.
RE: Instant Action?
As SeemsReal (I think) said earlier... there you go twisting words, putting words in people's mouths. You were evidently shouted down because your suggestion was ridiculous, ignoring the many facets of people's preferences and styles, and the fact that the beauty of this site is that it allows those preferences and provides multiple opportunities for people to have their needs met. Your problem is that you are inflexible, wanting the "letter of the law rather than the spirit of the law", a fine-print legalist. It states the general purpose in the description because that is its primary purpose, but you allow no latitude for different approaches. You focus on rules rather than on people. You are more concerned for yourself, and fitting everyone else into your mold, than for letting people be people. And frankly, I'm tired of your incessant bullying of everyone else, calling them "slaves" "sissy boys" etc. I'm tired of your constant whining and complaining. You are on nearly every thread, practically taking up residence in here yet you have accused others of having no life for the time they spend here on CC. You are easy with the words, the name calling, the labeling of people, the accusations and twisting what people say, yet you are too much of a coward to come out in the open and say it without hiding behind ~ or some other non-identifyer.. Why don't you own up to what you have to say and use your actual username?
RE: Instant Action?
+100000000000000000000000000000
My ehnlish not so perfect, but you said it all I have in my mind when I have read posts from this person (and I am sure its the same person) already recognise his style in the posts.
My ehnlish not so perfect, but you said it all I have in my mind when I have read posts from this person (and I am sure its the same person) already recognise his style in the posts.
RE: Instant Action?
In my opinion you are a Hall of Fame word twister. And you have me confused with others who do the ~ thing. In your rambling diatribe you actually agreed with my older post about doing away with categories or trimming to maybe 2. If cc did that, you and I would be in complete agreement. But we both know that's not going to happen. As far as money slaves, I only heard that term on this site and only fairly recently. And I'm not sure what it means. As far as rules and category guidelines, I think they apply to all. If not they should. I expect to get what I pay for from any business on line or off line. I've never known anyone that likes being ripped off. But who knows maybe there are some that get off on being ripped off. There are all kinds of fetishes.
As far as using one's screen name, since many members and hosts have many, would not really settle anything. The only way to make sure everyone posts with the same name every time would require members and hosts to sign up separately to post in the forums. And I really don't expect cc to do anything like that anytime soon. So the forum is what it is. And that's the way its always been. And as I'm sure you know cc determines what posts get posted.
And as far as my being a coward, the combat decorations hanging on my wall would suggest otherwise.
As far as using one's screen name, since many members and hosts have many, would not really settle anything. The only way to make sure everyone posts with the same name every time would require members and hosts to sign up separately to post in the forums. And I really don't expect cc to do anything like that anytime soon. So the forum is what it is. And that's the way its always been. And as I'm sure you know cc determines what posts get posted.
And as far as my being a coward, the combat decorations hanging on my wall would suggest otherwise.
RE: Instant Action?
>"In my opinion you are a Hall of Fame word twister."
You are welcome to your opinion.
>"And you have me confused with others who do the ~ thing."
Maybe -- but I seriously doubt it. But if so, all the more reason why folks should use their username/screenname or a more appropriate identifier.
>"In your rambling diatribe you actually agreed with my older post about doing away with categories or trimming to maybe 2."
There you go again, twisting my words to agree with your views.
>"As far as money slaves, I only heard that term on this site and only fairly recently. And I'm not sure what it means."
Yeah right. I believe you. NOT
>"As far as rules and category guidelines, I think they apply to all. If not they should. I expect to get what I pay for from any business on line or off line."
The rules are in place to ensure that hosts fulfill member expectations. They are not there to restrict varieties of expectations or to limit what kind of viewers can enter into a particular category. You criticize constantly members who go into IA and want more than IA. It's their money, their desire, and the host who recognizes their individual needs and caters to them is a winning host. I am not referring to the host who refuses to IA when a member desires IA, of course. My argument is against your implying that IA hosts can only do IA activities, and your criticism and name-calling of those members who enter IA for more than just the sexual IA.
>"As far as using one's screen name, since many members and hosts have many, would not really settle anything.
So what? Your argument is moot.
>"The only way to make sure everyone posts with the same name every time would require members and hosts to sign up separately to post in the forums."
I'm not arguing for required log-ins and usernames in the forums. I'm arguing for voluntary integrity behind what one posts. I'm arguing that you are hiding behind anonymity hurling your barbs. I'm saying that folks should use their usernames OR at least some readily identifiable moniker so folks have a sense of who is posting, and can distinguish them from other posters. There is nothing required in my using my username -- I choose to use it to own up to what i have to say, whether you agree with me or not.
>"And as far as my being a coward, the combat decorations hanging on my wall would suggest otherwise."
Thanks for demeaning every soldier and every veteran who has ever fought in combat. As if you are the only one in this forum to have been decorated or to have served i combat. If you are so brave then stop hiding behind your tilde
You are welcome to your opinion.
>"And you have me confused with others who do the ~ thing."
Maybe -- but I seriously doubt it. But if so, all the more reason why folks should use their username/screenname or a more appropriate identifier.
>"In your rambling diatribe you actually agreed with my older post about doing away with categories or trimming to maybe 2."
There you go again, twisting my words to agree with your views.
>"As far as money slaves, I only heard that term on this site and only fairly recently. And I'm not sure what it means."
Yeah right. I believe you. NOT
>"As far as rules and category guidelines, I think they apply to all. If not they should. I expect to get what I pay for from any business on line or off line."
The rules are in place to ensure that hosts fulfill member expectations. They are not there to restrict varieties of expectations or to limit what kind of viewers can enter into a particular category. You criticize constantly members who go into IA and want more than IA. It's their money, their desire, and the host who recognizes their individual needs and caters to them is a winning host. I am not referring to the host who refuses to IA when a member desires IA, of course. My argument is against your implying that IA hosts can only do IA activities, and your criticism and name-calling of those members who enter IA for more than just the sexual IA.
>"As far as using one's screen name, since many members and hosts have many, would not really settle anything.
So what? Your argument is moot.
>"The only way to make sure everyone posts with the same name every time would require members and hosts to sign up separately to post in the forums."
I'm not arguing for required log-ins and usernames in the forums. I'm arguing for voluntary integrity behind what one posts. I'm arguing that you are hiding behind anonymity hurling your barbs. I'm saying that folks should use their usernames OR at least some readily identifiable moniker so folks have a sense of who is posting, and can distinguish them from other posters. There is nothing required in my using my username -- I choose to use it to own up to what i have to say, whether you agree with me or not.
>"And as far as my being a coward, the combat decorations hanging on my wall would suggest otherwise."
Thanks for demeaning every soldier and every veteran who has ever fought in combat. As if you are the only one in this forum to have been decorated or to have served i combat. If you are so brave then stop hiding behind your tilde
RE: Instant Action?
Yes I like girls to wear specific items of clothing and so I do go to IA and ask them to dress up in them and then eventually to not be dressed in them.
To pick up on "BC's" post. If the girl offers to get dressed while I am in text chat then I will wait until she has changed. If she doesn't I go in and she changes while I am in video.
To ~MyHeart4Yours. I visit girls ( or women if they prefer) not a category so as long as I am not breaking any of cc's rules I will go to whatever category I want and have whatever type of show I want.
I also agree with the reply that MyHeart4Yours gave you.
To pick up on "BC's" post. If the girl offers to get dressed while I am in text chat then I will wait until she has changed. If she doesn't I go in and she changes while I am in video.
To ~MyHeart4Yours. I visit girls ( or women if they prefer) not a category so as long as I am not breaking any of cc's rules I will go to whatever category I want and have whatever type of show I want.
I also agree with the reply that MyHeart4Yours gave you.
RE: Instant Action?
"Lots of complaints about IA lately" Yes but over the years IA has flown under the radar and softcore hosts and specific softcore hosts have been savaged in these forums. Its all about fair play for everyone. Instead of burying our heads in the sand, let's talk about hosts that raise questions. No category should be above suspicion.
A well planned retirement
Outside England 's Bristol Zoo there is a parking lot for 150 cars and 8 buses.
For 25 years, its parking fees were managed by a very pleasant attendant....
The fees for cars ($1.40), for buses (about $7.00).
Then, one day, after 25 solid years of never missing a day of work, he just didn't show up; so the zoo management called the city council and asked it to send them another parking agent. The council did some research and replied that the parking lot was the zoo's own responsibility.
The zoo advised the council that the attendant was a city employee. The city council responded that the lot attendant had never been on the city payroll. Meanwhile, sitting in his villa somewhere on the coast of Spain or France or Italy is a man who'd apparently had a ticket machine installed completely on his own, and then had simply begun to show up every day, commencing to collect and keep the parking fees, estimated at about $560 per day -- for 25 years. Assuming 7 days a week, this amounts to just over $7 million dollars...... And no one even knows his name.
For 25 years, its parking fees were managed by a very pleasant attendant....
The fees for cars ($1.40), for buses (about $7.00).
Then, one day, after 25 solid years of never missing a day of work, he just didn't show up; so the zoo management called the city council and asked it to send them another parking agent. The council did some research and replied that the parking lot was the zoo's own responsibility.
The zoo advised the council that the attendant was a city employee. The city council responded that the lot attendant had never been on the city payroll. Meanwhile, sitting in his villa somewhere on the coast of Spain or France or Italy is a man who'd apparently had a ticket machine installed completely on his own, and then had simply begun to show up every day, commencing to collect and keep the parking fees, estimated at about $560 per day -- for 25 years. Assuming 7 days a week, this amounts to just over $7 million dollars...... And no one even knows his name.
RE: A well planned retirement
I don't know if its true as I got it in my email from a friend. If you read my post it gives the country.
RE: A well planned retirement
You would think that a ticket machine in a parking lot in England charging fees in dollars would raise some eyebrows.
RE: A well planned retirement
Last I heard the currency of England was in Pounds, not Dollars.
Sorry, it's an urban myth
And it's starting to wear thin with the (very real) Bristol Zoo parking attendant.
Was Google broken when you posted this?
Was Google broken when you posted this?
RE: Sorry, it's an urban myth
Did he post it as a "true" story, or as a humorous but not necessarily true one? God help us the day we can no longer create fiction for entertainment purposes. I think probably half the "urban myths" out there were started for a laugh, not for fact. But we take it too seriously and believe every word we read as if it were true.
RE: A well planned retirement
I don't remember paying parking when I've been to the zoo. And you can always park somewhere in clifton.
RE: A well planned retirement
Was an April Fool story from Bristol evening Post a few years ago. I know, I live there
Funny thing is though, this is about the best journalism you can get from that rag. Worst paper ever
Funny thing is though, this is about the best journalism you can get from that rag. Worst paper ever
Shake it like a bunny!!!
Who will just take their clothes off and party with me like we're at the Playboy mansion???
RE: Shake it like a bunny!!!
Wait, I'm hopping down the bunny trail now. Hippity Hoppity, yes, I'm on my way.
And when I arrive I will be glad to shake it like a bunny.
In fact, there is a great song just for that very purpose:
You put your left foot in, you put your left foot out, you put your left foot in and you shake it all about. You do the Hokey Pokey and you turn yourself around. That's what it's all about .....
:D
And when I arrive I will be glad to shake it like a bunny.
In fact, there is a great song just for that very purpose:
You put your left foot in, you put your left foot out, you put your left foot in and you shake it all about. You do the Hokey Pokey and you turn yourself around. That's what it's all about .....
:D
To Yaroslavl Hosts
Do any of you use Yaroslavl ZentrTelekom Domolink? My host friend has been having internet problems for the last three days and has been having problems contacting them. Thanks.
RE: To Yaroslavl Hosts
No, she wouldn't be answering her sms. I know she is telling the truth cuz i know her too ;-)
RE: To Yaroslavl Hosts
When i said i know her is because i already met her in real life. What more can i know her? Do you want i also tell you her blood type? Duh!
RE: To Yaroslavl Hosts
maybe you need that info, i dont care about her blood test or disease, wont f her haha maybe u should know
RE: To Yaroslavl Hosts
i bet here is around 300 hosts from yaroslavl :)) just a most popular yaro boss have 200 girls ,and same maybe work at home :)
RE: To Yaroslavl Hosts
but not all work from home and not all communicate using sms. and she hasnt been only since Sept 2 ;-)
RE: To Yaroslavl Hosts
She sent me an sms and asked me to post so relax. I hadn't tried to communicate with her for a few days. I figured she went to a relative that lives nearby like she does every now and then until I got the sms since she has been on yahoo mobile for a few days but not regular yahoo or cc.
By the way, I didn't actually ask, but I hope it is obvious that I wanted to know if others that use the same internet provider have the same problem. Of course, if they do, I guess maybe they can't answer, lol.
By the way, I didn't actually ask, but I hope it is obvious that I wanted to know if others that use the same internet provider have the same problem. Of course, if they do, I guess maybe they can't answer, lol.
RE: To Yaroslavl Hosts
there are many peoples complain about zentr -telekom now days,but thx god there are many providers today ;)