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looking for new friend to have faith in
Yes, it really is me. Got to be able to laugh at yourself sometimes. Might as well join the rest of you, lol, although I am confident in what I wrote.
RE: looking for new friend to have faith in
disappointment is caused by our expectations.remember the lower your standards,the smaller the fall :--)
RE: looking for new friend to have faith in
If some people out there think that I really posted this thread to find new friends, then there is absolutely no hope for some members and hosts who fall for people's lies, be it on CC or elsewhere. I know people can be stupid but come on. I can only hope that anyone who thought that maybe I was serious did not read the two threads that appear below in which I was participating. At least some of you saw I was joking and that I was simply adding to all the "mistress wanted", "husband wanted", and "wife wanted" threads.
RE: looking for new friend to have faith in
I chose to reply this way since more than one person seemed to believe that I was serious in this particular thread that I started. WTF does it matter if I reply this way or directly to that person's response to my original post in this thread? Please explain. Thank you.
RE: looking for new friend to have faith in
At least you were able to write your message within 1 paragraph and less than 10,000 words.......that's a good start :) I think many believe you and the host was exposed briefly by another host. It's that dark shadow that you cast on all hosts that was unacceptable. Did you ever man up and approach her directly? I think that she actually replied anonymously in the replies you received but very much in denial. Read her personal forum and she is very capable of mind control and she delights in it. If she is not your friend why not approach directly??
RE: looking for new friend to have faith in
really who is she, i dont want to read all that post, it's too damn long :((
RE: looking for new friend to have faith in
Unless you are her or one of the guys that this happened to, if it happened at all, no way you can say "bull...", but you obviously are a friend of hers at a minimum. It is supposed to be someone that would shock a lot of people, and that definitely is a name that would do just that. It wouldn't seem like it would be something she would do given that she has a good reputation here, but that is exactly what the person that started all this said about whomever he was writing about. Also some of the comments posted by others mentioning certain characteristics of the person they thought it was had some similarities to her. She does have a mistress quality to her, for example. Plus, a couple of posts that were removed and the post by "b" mentioned her by name. Guess we will never know, but that name certainly gets people's attention.
RE: looking for new friend to have faith in
You sound like a slave that hasn't made the trip yet....lol
RE: looking for new friend to have faith in
Glad you finally said it.......I just hope it benefits the members that haven't gotten sucked in yet!! She's too old not to know better!
mistress wanted
I am looking for a beautiful, intelligent woman, 25 to 35, willing to be my mistress. all expenses paid. I would set you up in an apartment near where I live. Any interest?
RE: mistress wanted
Could you please ensure that the wife doesn't come with a knife in the middle of the night...and please kindly stipulate the size of your peacock...
RE: mistress wanted
I could be the one.... but I have not yet given up the idea of having a "normal" relationship. Although all depends on what kind of man you are:) maybe you are my type...
today's tidbit 2
2 old men get drunk & decide to visit a brothel.The madam takes one look at them & whispers to her manager "go & put inflated dolls in the bedrooms.These guys are to old & drunk to notice."
Walking home, the 1st old man says "I think my girl was dead, she never moved or made a sound."
The other guy says "could be worse, I think mine was a Witch."
"A Witch! why the hell would you say that?" replied his friend.
"Well i gave her a little bite on the neck, she farted & then flew out the window, taking my teeth with her!" :--)
Walking home, the 1st old man says "I think my girl was dead, she never moved or made a sound."
The other guy says "could be worse, I think mine was a Witch."
"A Witch! why the hell would you say that?" replied his friend.
"Well i gave her a little bite on the neck, she farted & then flew out the window, taking my teeth with her!" :--)
today's tidbit 1
Paradoxes are rather loosely defined, but can be said to be a true statement that defies intuition. Some have solutions, some don’t.
1. Free will
If God is omnipotent and knows what we will do before he created us, how can we have free will?
2. Grandfather paradox
A man goes back in time, and kills his grandfather before the grandmother can meet his grandmother. This means that one of the man’s parents will not have been born, and the man in turn, will not have been born. This would mean that he could not have travelled back in time after all, which means the grandfather would still be alive, and the traveller would have been conceived allowing him to travel back in time and kill his grandfather.
3. Omnipotence paradox
Can God create something so heavy He cannot lift it? If he can create something so heavy he can’t lift, then his lack of strength means he is not omnipotent. If he can’t create something so heavy he can’t lift, than he is not omnipotent.
4. Unstoppable force paradox
What happens when an unstoppable force meets an unmovable object? If the force moves the object, then it is not unmovable. If the force doesn’t, the force is not unstoppable. :--)
1. Free will
If God is omnipotent and knows what we will do before he created us, how can we have free will?
2. Grandfather paradox
A man goes back in time, and kills his grandfather before the grandmother can meet his grandmother. This means that one of the man’s parents will not have been born, and the man in turn, will not have been born. This would mean that he could not have travelled back in time after all, which means the grandfather would still be alive, and the traveller would have been conceived allowing him to travel back in time and kill his grandfather.
3. Omnipotence paradox
Can God create something so heavy He cannot lift it? If he can create something so heavy he can’t lift, then his lack of strength means he is not omnipotent. If he can’t create something so heavy he can’t lift, than he is not omnipotent.
4. Unstoppable force paradox
What happens when an unstoppable force meets an unmovable object? If the force moves the object, then it is not unmovable. If the force doesn’t, the force is not unstoppable. :--)
RE: today's tidbit 1
Personal pragmatic views (to spoil your fun :-)
1. There is no such entity as God. Not enough room here though to further discuss this.
2. Time travel is not possible. I think of time as a something we use to measure the increasing chaos or entropy in the universe. This is not reversible...
3. See answer to 1.
4. Unstoppable and unmovable: No such things. Force is a vector quantity and by definition has a finite magnitude.
<Paradoxes are rather loosely defined, but can be said to be a true statement that defies intuition. Some have solutions, some don’t.
1. Free will
If God is omnipotent and knows what we will do before he created us, how can we have free will?
2. Grandfather paradox
A man goes back in time, and kills his grandfather before the grandmother can meet his grandmother. This means that one of the man’s parents will not have been born, and the man in turn, will not have been born. This would mean that he could not have travelled back in time after all, which means the grandfather would still be alive, and the traveller would have been conceived allowing him to travel back in time and kill his grandfather.
3. Omnipotence paradox
Can God create something so heavy He cannot lift it? If he can create something so heavy he can’t lift, then his lack of strength means he is not omnipotent. If he can’t create something so heavy he can’t lift, than he is not omnipotent.
4. Unstoppable force paradox
What happens when an unstoppable force meets an unmovable object? If the force moves the object, then it is not unmovable. If the force doesn’t, the force is not unstoppable. :--) >
1. There is no such entity as God. Not enough room here though to further discuss this.
2. Time travel is not possible. I think of time as a something we use to measure the increasing chaos or entropy in the universe. This is not reversible...
3. See answer to 1.
4. Unstoppable and unmovable: No such things. Force is a vector quantity and by definition has a finite magnitude.
<Paradoxes are rather loosely defined, but can be said to be a true statement that defies intuition. Some have solutions, some don’t.
1. Free will
If God is omnipotent and knows what we will do before he created us, how can we have free will?
2. Grandfather paradox
A man goes back in time, and kills his grandfather before the grandmother can meet his grandmother. This means that one of the man’s parents will not have been born, and the man in turn, will not have been born. This would mean that he could not have travelled back in time after all, which means the grandfather would still be alive, and the traveller would have been conceived allowing him to travel back in time and kill his grandfather.
3. Omnipotence paradox
Can God create something so heavy He cannot lift it? If he can create something so heavy he can’t lift, then his lack of strength means he is not omnipotent. If he can’t create something so heavy he can’t lift, than he is not omnipotent.
4. Unstoppable force paradox
What happens when an unstoppable force meets an unmovable object? If the force moves the object, then it is not unmovable. If the force doesn’t, the force is not unstoppable. :--) >
RE: today's tidbit 1
personal opinions don't spoil the fun,in fact they enhance it.only thing that can spoil the fun are undisputable facts & i think you will be very hard pressed to provide that for at least some of these :--) ohh & by the way i think i said,some can be solved,some can't but the main thing is we're not talking about inyf's upcoming nuptuals with !!! :--)
RE: today's tidbit 1
Yes, it's good to get an exchange of views and personal opinion, and a good discussion going. Paradoxes are fun, though they are just that, fun thought experiments with no footing in reality and no other purpose.
Sorry I'm not out to appear a smart-ass, I humbly stand by my claims though, however, there is probably no so thing as a 100% "undisputable" fact especially with regards to theories. I stick with fact based upon strength of scientific evidence. There is no evidence for any god, this is a faith not a science so in my mind cannot provide a serious paradox. Using the idea of time as a measure of increasing entropy is my own assocation, and it is a fundamental law of physics that entropy as a whole always increases. And as I said, to derive a force with no magnitude...then that is no longer a force and we would have to call it someting else.
Getting too heavy, let's chill out and have some fun, it's Saturday night!
Regards,
Gary :)
Sorry I'm not out to appear a smart-ass, I humbly stand by my claims though, however, there is probably no so thing as a 100% "undisputable" fact especially with regards to theories. I stick with fact based upon strength of scientific evidence. There is no evidence for any god, this is a faith not a science so in my mind cannot provide a serious paradox. Using the idea of time as a measure of increasing entropy is my own assocation, and it is a fundamental law of physics that entropy as a whole always increases. And as I said, to derive a force with no magnitude...then that is no longer a force and we would have to call it someting else.
Getting too heavy, let's chill out and have some fun, it's Saturday night!
Regards,
Gary :)
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I got into trouble with a uni lecturer who declared, "There is no such thing as an absolute truth!" Forgetting for a moment that I depended on him for good grades I said, "But your statement implies you are stating an absolute truth, that there isn't one!" Uni lecturers have a way of dealing with smart asses - I got an E for my final thesis. (((
Anyway, tisme, you are always good fun and when are you, me and OMP gonna get together in chat again? Was a laugh the last time.
Anyway, tisme, you are always good fun and when are you, me and OMP gonna get together in chat again? Was a laugh the last time.
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klomp & i were there friday night.i'll probably be there tonight too.so the balls in your court --) i had a lecturer who used to say absolute truth is absolute bullshit.mind you wasn't a uni lecturer just some crazy old bastard used to stand on a box telling us all to repent our sins :--)
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"...there is probably no so thing as a 100% "undisputable" fact especially with regards to theories..."i concur completely yet science is awash with theories & they present it as a fait accompli.such is life.but isn't thought the most satisfying of all outcomes.vive la difference,or some crap :--)
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"the views expressed in the post above are mine & mine alone.in no way are they meant to be representitive of the views of the other inmates in the asylum." :--)
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Just a thought... Maybe you should say, in your opinion, or based on your observation, you believe there is no such thing as God. Because otherwise you are saying that you are omniscient, knowing all things, therefore setting yourself up as God. How do you know that God does not exist outside of your sphere of knowledge
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Ah, thanks, Killjoy, now I get it. I believe he said "Clear off" though, didn't he?
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Sorry, but your reference eludes me. Maybe it's a UK thing. Nick obviously caught it.
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Well, i took jpf's reference to juniper bushes to mean a sketch from monty pytons life of brian. Brian does say "Now, **** off", and crowd reply "how do we **** off, oh lord?". Yep, I've led a sad life :-)
RE: today's tidbit 1
Yes of course this is my personal view. Apologies all, now I know that you can never win with religion, but... The usual response from someone defending religion is to resort to personal rhetoric or attack on the "non-believer". So no, I am not parading as "omniscient". I stand by my statement though that there is no evidence for God, in my observation, or anyone elses. And I mean evidence here, something that can be verified. It never has. Never. It is faith, and individually we can believe what we like. I consider myself open-minded though, to evidence that is, not to fantasy or delusion.
Based upon the strength of it, there is probably more evidence for the tooth fairy than there is for god. And my little daughter believes in both :)
Based upon the strength of it, there is probably more evidence for the tooth fairy than there is for god. And my little daughter believes in both :)
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i agree there's no evidence to support,but science would have us believe that the universe(which is infinite)was created from the big bang.now the chances of the earth being in the right position from the sun,being fortunate enough that the melding of particles that formed the earth gave us the right composition to foster life in the infiniteness of the universe,i think,if you asked a bookie would possibly be slightly longer than the chances of an omnipotent god :--)
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Hello tisme,
In response, the big bang is just another theory, a possible model. Personally I don't really believe it, it leaves so much unanswered. However it represents the CURRENT limit of our popular understanding. We have always had gaps and always will. And every gap has been conveniently filled by a god, until that it is, the gap is filled by science again, and god is moved down to the next gap...and so it goes on. This is no evidence for god, just a gap or limit in our understanding. Fill it with what you like really, from a faith point of view.
And the universe is not infinite, just very, very huge so is infinite to most practical purposes I suppose.
With regards to life on earth, I completely, utterly agree with you. Life is so mind blowingly improbable, so many unlikely conditions had to occur at once. Simple fact is, we are here so it happened, and we can trace right back to when and where it happened, and how it went along the way (almost to the "big bang" for life!). Life is so precious and so very, very rare, we should all be in awe of our existence. I believe we are as good as alone in the universe.
You will be trying to tell me next that the earth is 6000 years old!
Cosmology and the big bang theory, and evolutionary biology and life on earth, are huge human achievements in understanding and we should respect them as such.
In response, the big bang is just another theory, a possible model. Personally I don't really believe it, it leaves so much unanswered. However it represents the CURRENT limit of our popular understanding. We have always had gaps and always will. And every gap has been conveniently filled by a god, until that it is, the gap is filled by science again, and god is moved down to the next gap...and so it goes on. This is no evidence for god, just a gap or limit in our understanding. Fill it with what you like really, from a faith point of view.
And the universe is not infinite, just very, very huge so is infinite to most practical purposes I suppose.
With regards to life on earth, I completely, utterly agree with you. Life is so mind blowingly improbable, so many unlikely conditions had to occur at once. Simple fact is, we are here so it happened, and we can trace right back to when and where it happened, and how it went along the way (almost to the "big bang" for life!). Life is so precious and so very, very rare, we should all be in awe of our existence. I believe we are as good as alone in the universe.
You will be trying to tell me next that the earth is 6000 years old!
Cosmology and the big bang theory, and evolutionary biology and life on earth, are huge human achievements in understanding and we should respect them as such.
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"Simple fact is, we are here so it happened, and we can trace right back to when and where it happened, and how it went along the way (almost to the "big bang" for life!)."
Wow! your estimation of Science startles me! Show me one scientist who claims to be able to do this. Show me the "evidence" for this position.
Wow! your estimation of Science startles me! Show me one scientist who claims to be able to do this. Show me the "evidence" for this position.
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Hiya, it's a tall order to request this in this forum, though yeah I'm happy to have a go. However your asking about the state of evolutionary biology within the last 150 years or so, and this is way too big for "one scientist". Evidence? I will start with the fossil record that clearly and shows variation and increasing complexity as time progressed. Fact: every fossil that has ever been found has confirmed predicted gradual change over time. The earlier organisms were soft bodied and did not fossilise as well as, say vertebrates. Even so, even photosythetic single celled organisms have been found in the earliest fossil records. These are obtained by such as a 200m long core sample taken from a sea bed. Dating the sediments gives the age of these organisms, somtimes as old as 3.5 billion years...All of this is fact. Like I said, this forum is not the place for this amount of detail, if you like i can present you with any fact you like to further confirm this understanding...
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So Gary, do all evolutionists agree on the interpretations of the evidence, dates, implications, and so on? Certainly not all scientists agree on evolution, or the big bang, or any other theory.
The problem with evolution is it is an unproven theory. The same evidence one may use to support the theory, may be interpreted quite differently by another.
The problem with evolution is it is an unproven theory. The same evidence one may use to support the theory, may be interpreted quite differently by another.
For EveningDesire
Now you know fine well that there is a whole spectrum of views in any subject you care to mention. The thing about science though, the beauty of it, is that there is a whole spectrum of views! Constant challenge, scrutiny, peer rivalry etc. Be assured that if any claim in science is wrong, or unfounded, or worse falsified, it will be found out and discredited. So to answer your question on which scientist is correct, I go to the experts in the field, the evolutionary biologists. Yep, they are scrutinised too. No-one is better qualified to answer that question from a scientific point of view. I challenge you to show me one, say proffessor of evolutionary biology, or paleontology if you want to look at fossil records, who does not believe that the fossil record confirms evolution of species over long timescales. There may be some variation in details, though the overall picture will be the same.
Evolution though is proven. The evidence is overwhelming. The evidence point to no other explanation. Can I ask you now to show me an alternative theory based upon logical interpretation of evidence? In fact the theory came way before the evidence. Breakthroughs in science in the last 100 years keeps on confirming that gradual evolution of species is true. Just look at genetics for example, this has proven that ALL life shares common origins. Radioactive dating has confirmed the age of sediments in which fossils are found which fits with predicted evolutionary stage. None of this was available to Darwin for example. The gaps keep being filled in, There is no evidence that I know of that disproves evolution.
Evolution though is proven. The evidence is overwhelming. The evidence point to no other explanation. Can I ask you now to show me an alternative theory based upon logical interpretation of evidence? In fact the theory came way before the evidence. Breakthroughs in science in the last 100 years keeps on confirming that gradual evolution of species is true. Just look at genetics for example, this has proven that ALL life shares common origins. Radioactive dating has confirmed the age of sediments in which fossils are found which fits with predicted evolutionary stage. None of this was available to Darwin for example. The gaps keep being filled in, There is no evidence that I know of that disproves evolution.
RE: For EveningDesire
Well, at this point I think we will agree to disagree. Obviously, I do not believe that evolution is proven. I do not believe the evidence overwhelmingly declares it, but opens up too many more questions. Creation scientists see a whole different view on much of the same material. Of course, you will probably dismiss them as discredited buffoons. While I most certainly do not hold to a "creationist" view (I think they completely ignore the data we do have in favor of a biblical centered view), I still believe in a creator. I believe in evolution within species, of that the record is quite clear. But evolution between species? Where is that evidence? And again, while evolutionary changes within the species is seen and understandable, how does it explain the beginning of life? Life suddenly infused inorganic matter? Evolution cannot explain it, and does not. So what is the cause of life?
RE: For EveningDesire
I will add to your argument Evening, is asking how multiple cell organisms form? Sure you could have a mass of bacteria all clumped together, but why did one of those bacteria suddenly decide to become a liver cell, and another a nerve cell and yet another a skin cell? Then how did they all end up with the same DNA that is programmed to make the next generation reproduce as a near duplicate of that mixture of oddball cells?
Mutations can provide for intra species transformations but inter species transformations are very difficult to explain even with the fossil record. The uniqueness that exists even in something so simple as grass is amazing. Why are there not new hybrid varieties of grass springing up constantly in the wild? They can be forced in the lab but in the wild you don't see Bluegrass/Fescue hybrids everywhere they are planted next to each other. Humans and apes are so close in DNA that it is considered humans descended from apes, but why didn't we retain the portion of that DNA that would allow cross breeding? Why would evolution cause us to retain so many commonalities yet discard the ability to cross breed with our ancestor?
Mutations can provide for intra species transformations but inter species transformations are very difficult to explain even with the fossil record. The uniqueness that exists even in something so simple as grass is amazing. Why are there not new hybrid varieties of grass springing up constantly in the wild? They can be forced in the lab but in the wild you don't see Bluegrass/Fescue hybrids everywhere they are planted next to each other. Humans and apes are so close in DNA that it is considered humans descended from apes, but why didn't we retain the portion of that DNA that would allow cross breeding? Why would evolution cause us to retain so many commonalities yet discard the ability to cross breed with our ancestor?
The great CC mass debate
Welcome to the discussion jimb.
How do multiple cell organisms form? Well, we do all start life as a single cell, and there are many books i'm sure that could explain to you how we start from a single cell, and end up chatting to our wonderful hosts in CC. It's all down to DNA of course. This is well understood.
Inter species transformations, happening over many thousands of generations ARE clearly demonstrated in the fossil record. And it's not just mutation, it's variation as well that drives it, as every living species, even you and me, has variation. Though you don't even have to look at fossil records. Just look at the inter species transformation from wolf to poodle...
I don't know anything about grass breeding, I'll have to look that one up when I have time.
With regards to apes, yes i believe we share 99% of our DNA with chimps. They are our closest animal cousins. Though we did not descend from apes. More accurate to explain that humans and chimps shared a common ancestor that is best described as ape-like. Now one definition of a species is that they have diverged such that they are no longer compatible in terms of breeding. And divergence of species is a result of physical isolation of one tribe from another, such that they are not interbreeding. Why would evolution cause us to retain so many commonalities yet discard the ability to cross breed with our ancestor? Well evolution means that for example we are better equipped for survival than our ancestor, so why would evolution want to backtrack and go back to inferior (with regards to fitness) genes? I can see no evolutionary benefit for one species interbreeding with another, or with an ancestor. The gene pool has moved on. And if there is no advantage in retaining this ability to interbreed, then it is lost.
How do multiple cell organisms form? Well, we do all start life as a single cell, and there are many books i'm sure that could explain to you how we start from a single cell, and end up chatting to our wonderful hosts in CC. It's all down to DNA of course. This is well understood.
Inter species transformations, happening over many thousands of generations ARE clearly demonstrated in the fossil record. And it's not just mutation, it's variation as well that drives it, as every living species, even you and me, has variation. Though you don't even have to look at fossil records. Just look at the inter species transformation from wolf to poodle...
I don't know anything about grass breeding, I'll have to look that one up when I have time.
With regards to apes, yes i believe we share 99% of our DNA with chimps. They are our closest animal cousins. Though we did not descend from apes. More accurate to explain that humans and chimps shared a common ancestor that is best described as ape-like. Now one definition of a species is that they have diverged such that they are no longer compatible in terms of breeding. And divergence of species is a result of physical isolation of one tribe from another, such that they are not interbreeding. Why would evolution cause us to retain so many commonalities yet discard the ability to cross breed with our ancestor? Well evolution means that for example we are better equipped for survival than our ancestor, so why would evolution want to backtrack and go back to inferior (with regards to fitness) genes? I can see no evolutionary benefit for one species interbreeding with another, or with an ancestor. The gene pool has moved on. And if there is no advantage in retaining this ability to interbreed, then it is lost.
RE: The great CC mass debate
I understand how we form from two single cells joining and sharing DNA, but how did the original multicell organism form? Was it a two cell organism or more? How did the organism decide it needed different types of cells? Was the first bone in an organism just a single bone cell, or did it have some type of more or less usless bone that later developed into a skeleton?
Wolf to Poodle would be intraspecies changes and still a wolf can breed with a poodle, it would be similar to the difference in Caucasian and Asian humans.
Also many scientist talk about how well engineered the human body is, for that fact most living things, yet all that engineering somehow happened by accident. If life can be engineered by accident why can't mechanical things happen by accident? How is it explained how the first cell formed a membrane around the right mix if proteins and DNA and nutrients that would not only protect them, but also be permeable to the right nutrients for it to continue living? Also what came first, a cell or DNA? If humans can now build carbon nanotubes on a molecular level, why can we not build a cell from scratch and make it living?
Sorry for all the questions but I like to tear everything apart and see how it works, never liked the black box approach to things.
Wolf to Poodle would be intraspecies changes and still a wolf can breed with a poodle, it would be similar to the difference in Caucasian and Asian humans.
Also many scientist talk about how well engineered the human body is, for that fact most living things, yet all that engineering somehow happened by accident. If life can be engineered by accident why can't mechanical things happen by accident? How is it explained how the first cell formed a membrane around the right mix if proteins and DNA and nutrients that would not only protect them, but also be permeable to the right nutrients for it to continue living? Also what came first, a cell or DNA? If humans can now build carbon nanotubes on a molecular level, why can we not build a cell from scratch and make it living?
Sorry for all the questions but I like to tear everything apart and see how it works, never liked the black box approach to things.
RE: For EveningDesire
Hi again, now you just keep me biting! I've looked up "creation scientists" on the web. Apparently, the best definition (first hit on google) is that they are a scientist (from a scientific field) who happens to believe in creationism. It is apalling that we have theology pretending to be a science here, it is very misleading and dangerous. At the risk of repeating myself again and again, there is no evidence for a creator, it is pure blind faith. An idea. And an idea that has far too much popularity and power these days in my opinion. I don't have a problem with individual belief, it should be encoraged and respected. I do have a problem though with faith aggressively attacking hard work and scientific achievement, and pretending to be a science. Keep creationism in bible class where it belongs.
And again, the evidence for evolution, both within species and speciation, is there. I have explained it. I have all the evidence you need. And amassing such evidence sometimes from billions of years back, is an amazing achievement. We should be grateful we have such data, let alone continually picking gaps in it (of which there are) and filling them with a "creator". I challenge you again, show me another theory with stronger evidence. There isn't one, otherwise it would have been adopted as the popular, verified, scientific view. That is how science works. It is a science because it can be proven, verified, reproduced, logically explained.
The best creation theory can do, is to find gaps in understanding. This is not evidence for a creator, just evidence that we gaps in our understanding. Creationists would be better off helping to find the evidence to fill those gaps like the rest of us are trying to do. If that evidence, lo and behold, confirms the existence of a creator, then great, though my bet is that it never will...
And again, the evidence for evolution, both within species and speciation, is there. I have explained it. I have all the evidence you need. And amassing such evidence sometimes from billions of years back, is an amazing achievement. We should be grateful we have such data, let alone continually picking gaps in it (of which there are) and filling them with a "creator". I challenge you again, show me another theory with stronger evidence. There isn't one, otherwise it would have been adopted as the popular, verified, scientific view. That is how science works. It is a science because it can be proven, verified, reproduced, logically explained.
The best creation theory can do, is to find gaps in understanding. This is not evidence for a creator, just evidence that we gaps in our understanding. Creationists would be better off helping to find the evidence to fill those gaps like the rest of us are trying to do. If that evidence, lo and behold, confirms the existence of a creator, then great, though my bet is that it never will...
RE: For EveningDesire
The thing about Creation Scientists is not so much that they believe in "creationism" (some do, however) -- which is a very biblio-centric approach to understanding the origin of things and which interprets the Bible itself VERY narrowly (actual 7-day creation, the earth 6000-10000 years old based on ages of people in Genesis, etc.). But don't dismiss creation scientists because they begin with their assumption. Belief in a godless universe is really just as much faith -- for who really knows? it is just as unproven -- as an approach which allows for a Creator.
I think you would allow that a person's basic assumptions about the world, etc. will have a bearing on how they interpret the data? I doubt any are so objective as to be immune from their basic assumptions and world-view, even evolutionists. You yourself have made your own assumptions clear -- that there can be no reality beyond that which is verifiable by empirical data (am I incorrect in this?). But is this "fact" or is it "opinion"?
That is the beginning point from which you approach your world view and your understanding of science and God. At least that's how I see it. Creation scientists begin with a different assumption. That a creator is possible, that a creator is the only logical explanation to the origins of things, based ON the data.
Evolutionists begin with the assumption that everything has taken place by Chance, thus excluding God.
The Creation scientist begins with the assumption of Design, and Design implies Intelligence, thereby allowing for a Creator.
They have the same data. But the interpretations of the data are worlds apart. Because the basic, beginning assumptions are worlds apart.
I think you would allow that a person's basic assumptions about the world, etc. will have a bearing on how they interpret the data? I doubt any are so objective as to be immune from their basic assumptions and world-view, even evolutionists. You yourself have made your own assumptions clear -- that there can be no reality beyond that which is verifiable by empirical data (am I incorrect in this?). But is this "fact" or is it "opinion"?
That is the beginning point from which you approach your world view and your understanding of science and God. At least that's how I see it. Creation scientists begin with a different assumption. That a creator is possible, that a creator is the only logical explanation to the origins of things, based ON the data.
Evolutionists begin with the assumption that everything has taken place by Chance, thus excluding God.
The Creation scientist begins with the assumption of Design, and Design implies Intelligence, thereby allowing for a Creator.
They have the same data. But the interpretations of the data are worlds apart. Because the basic, beginning assumptions are worlds apart.
RE: today's tidbit 1
ok killjoy & evening.here's the deal,best explaination gets a free vid with nick194,his shout.if life.humans are the only species that have the full range of emotions? agree or disagree your choice.now no replying here,i want you both to write essays,no more than 10 000 words but no less than 4.mail them to me please :--)
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lol, point taken, I think! (I have requested that this discussion should be taken out of this forum though, that is why I'm using my user name now)
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There is one thing in the big bang theory that is used to explain the origin of the universe that in itself is a paradox. According to science the universe is at least 13 billion year old because it is observable for 13 billion light years away. Given the fact that the speed of light is known and we can see things 13 billion light years away in every direction wouldnt that mean it is at least 26 billion years old for things in opposite directions from us to be 26 billion light years apart? Also it is said that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light, yet science says that the universe went from nearly a pin point size to it's current size in fractions of a second. If that part of the theory is true then the edges of the universe had to expand away from each other at far more than the speed of light or they would just now be getting that far apart.
Science has unexplainable anomalies in many of its theories yet tells us we must believe it because it is logically derived. Religion has documented accounts of unexplainable phenomena also. Seems both require faith to exist, since both have unexplainable beliefs. It all boils down to whether your faith is in science or religion, but without faith in something neither could exist.
Science has unexplainable anomalies in many of its theories yet tells us we must believe it because it is logically derived. Religion has documented accounts of unexplainable phenomena also. Seems both require faith to exist, since both have unexplainable beliefs. It all boils down to whether your faith is in science or religion, but without faith in something neither could exist.
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Personally, I prefer the goddess theory, that we were all born from a divine womb. Ok, so you wonder, who fertilised her? Well, my late dear mother told me I was a virgin birth, I didn't have father. ))))
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damn,seems you were born with bad hearing & i thought it was from over-wanking.she didn't say you were a virgin birth she said you smelt like .....birth :--)
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"I stand by my statement though that there is no evidence for God"
Ahh but that was not what you said. You said, "There is no such entity as God." Nothing about personal observation or experience. Nothing about evidence.
But though there is no hard scientific evidence to prove the existence of God, how do you explain the world, the universe, the order of things, the interdependence? Maybe there is a truth that only faith can see. Just a thought.
Ahh but that was not what you said. You said, "There is no such entity as God." Nothing about personal observation or experience. Nothing about evidence.
But though there is no hard scientific evidence to prove the existence of God, how do you explain the world, the universe, the order of things, the interdependence? Maybe there is a truth that only faith can see. Just a thought.
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Hello Again, yes I stand corrected, "there is no such entity as god" is my personal view that I would not force onto anyone else. Clumsy of me if it appeared otherwise. That there has never been any evidence of god, however is a fact. Imagine if someone proved the existence of god, wow, that would be huge. The origin of living things, diversity and the earth etc are clearly understood, and the evidence is so strong that it is a scientific fact. There is no need to resort to the idea of a "creator" to explain anything. However, faith is a personal thing, and what you believe is up to you and I respect that.
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Oh, and another thing... A truly "open-minded person", it seems to me, would be open to the possibility that there is something beyond what "evidence" can verify. The reverse argument can also be used. You spoke about the "gaps" -- well maybe there's just a gap in our evidence FOR God that has not yet been discovered. Just a thought.
btw, what is the evidence for evolution?
btw, what is the evidence for evolution?
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Ah like I said, this is getting too big for this forum, send me an ccmail if you like and we can chat some more :)
An open mind is one thing, though belief in something without evidence is what we call faith. So yeah, I could believe in an infinite number of possibilities that have no evidence for them, though what is the point in that?
Evidence for evolution? see earlier post in my member name. The evidence is huge, beautiful and elegant! The evidence is there, why believe in anything else for which there is no evidence?
Looking forward to hearing from you, take care,
Gary
An open mind is one thing, though belief in something without evidence is what we call faith. So yeah, I could believe in an infinite number of possibilities that have no evidence for them, though what is the point in that?
Evidence for evolution? see earlier post in my member name. The evidence is huge, beautiful and elegant! The evidence is there, why believe in anything else for which there is no evidence?
Looking forward to hearing from you, take care,
Gary
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Gary, you really think faith is not important? What about the faith one has in another person? Is it based only on evidence? or is it something beyond evidence that makes it possible? As for the origins of life, how can you explain that from evolution, or from any other scientific theory. Or intelligence for that matter? Or even instinctive reactions? We live in a finite world, yes? Everything we know (empirically, that is) has its beginning and ending. You yourself said the universe was not infinite, that it was just the limits of our knowledge. So how then can you explain the origin of the universe, if everything has its beginning. Hawking theorizes it was a black hole in reverse (I'm speaking as a layman), that instead of sucking in matter, it exploded into matter. But from what, was that matter created. Can gravity exist without matter? Big Bang, evolution, or whatever theory you may have, as far as I'm concerned it still takes faith at some point. It just happens that it is far less faith for me to believe in a creator, than it is to believe in evolution, or a black hole in reverse. But where did the creator come from? Again, faith. Faith is not belief in a fantasy or a delusion, as you proposed. Fantasy is believing that hosts are madly in love with me. LOL Faith is recognizing that sometimes there may be reality beyond our ability to know empirically, beyond our experience of evidence.
For EveningDesire
Yes we are all entitled to our own faith and belief and we should respect that, and I do. Though this is where I am coming from. I draw the line when the teaching of a proven and verified scientific explanation for speciation of this planet (say in a school science class), is shot at, eroded, discredited and in some cases banned, in favour of a faith explanation. I am talking science, you are talking faith. Let's keep faith out of science, as you say, there is room for faith in other areas of life...Good debate though, you can always trust CC for that ;-)
RE: today's tidbit 1
You are assuming that time actually exists, separately... many mystics would argue time is an illusion, a construct of our own minds. Perhaps there is no such thing as a Creator, because the universe is constantly being created.
And the question, do you believe in faith? begs the question, faith in what? Is it possible the human mind ultimately cannot comprehend the universe, in its multitude of dimensions? It's like being a fish, that cannot comprehend the water in which it swims.
And the question, do you believe in faith? begs the question, faith in what? Is it possible the human mind ultimately cannot comprehend the universe, in its multitude of dimensions? It's like being a fish, that cannot comprehend the water in which it swims.
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Yes I completely agree. I think we try too hard to explain such a complex universe with the crude vocabulary that is available to us, though we are getting more and more articulate every day...
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You may know what someone is going to do, but that doesn't mean they do it because you want them to. Time travel is impossible. If there was a god, he wouldn't be bound by rules you speak of. No such thing as unstoppable or unmovable objects. Its easy to make paradoxes when you can just make things up.
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haha, who'da thunk that Tisme's Tidbit would spur such a stimulatin' debate?
RE: Wife wanted
I have never had a wife (or gf or a friend that was a girl or a girl that has ever spoken to me (unless "Fuck off you creepy bastard" counts))
What I meant was that the only quality I was looking for in a potential wife was that she must still be alive :)
What I meant was that the only quality I was looking for in a potential wife was that she must still be alive :)
RE: Wife wanted
Boom even if I had a list that was 1 million long I'm know you would meet every one of them :P
RE: Wife wanted
1. Simple things like chicken or pasta (or both).
2. I was going to be crude but I've decided to be a nicer person :P So if you marry me you can let your cat sleep wherever you want. I'll even give up my half of the bed for him. But obviously if you were in the other half I would rather not :D
2. I was going to be crude but I've decided to be a nicer person :P So if you marry me you can let your cat sleep wherever you want. I'll even give up my half of the bed for him. But obviously if you were in the other half I would rather not :D
RE: Wife wanted
Does Grandma have false teeth ? It isn't a requirement but it would be handy to borrow them once in a while :P
RE: Wife wanted
Can she be "pre-owned"? I can trade you mine, low milage, very faithful, mute and orphan (no in-laws).
RE: husband wanted
Damn I was hoping the rest of your post would just say "so I can get UK citizenship". I could have managed that :P
RE: husband wanted
the english have bad teeth so , so would your children you need an american
RE: husband wanted
That's because Americans die at such a young age from obesity that their teeth do not get a chance to rot.
RE: husband wanted
How about a nice American guy with English ancestry? Tall, blonde, blue eyes, good job, advanced university degrees, athletic, speaks Russian and has been there 3 times for work?
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Not everyone dreams to live or even visit USA)) Though i know that every american strongly believes in this:)
RE: husband wanted
Get over it!!!! We have plenty of immigrants and aren't recruiting for more!
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I work and study in a university with thousands of students from all over the world... almost to a man or woman they try and extend their student visa to a work visa and would like nothing more than to move to, live in. marry a man or woman from, and raise a family in the USA. The USA is not perfect but in terms of safety, opportunity and freedom it is better than most of the places these people come from..including Russia...we have a ton of Russian students....
RE: husband wanted
I was just getting ready to reply to a post on here about things not working out when hosts and members meet. But before I could reply it was deleted. Strange that the "marriage proposal" above remains and the common sense answer gets deleted. I wonder what that says
RE: husband wanted
Oops, I'm such a dumbass! the post I was referring to is in the thread below this LOL
RE: husband wanted
Well I love Russian women, you are good friends and companions, though sorry, I'm kind of married already, I am too old for you and I can not have any more children!
But a mistress would be cool :)
But a mistress would be cool :)
RE: husband wanted
Mister, you are NOT a gentleman! lol. Hm and what does she get from the transaction?
RE: husband wanted
hehe good discussion, well, there are many definitions of the usage of the term "gentleman" (e.g. see online wikipaedia). Pertinent ones I guess that you are hinting at are "courteous" and "respectful to women". Though the bottom line is, you cannot taken the man out of gentleman! Sex and marriage is probably another discussion...
And what would "!!!" get out of it? friendship at least. Please note that I stated that I love Russian women for friendship and companionship, I did not make reference to anything sleazy. Courteous and respectful to women maybe?
And what would "!!!" get out of it? friendship at least. Please note that I stated that I love Russian women for friendship and companionship, I did not make reference to anything sleazy. Courteous and respectful to women maybe?
RE: husband wanted
I won't argue with you about the term "gentleman" since you are an Englishman and know about it better. But the term "mistress" from your message above does not seem to be misleading at first glance. From here we proceed to the discussion on marriage and sex...if you see what I am hinting at ;)
RE: husband wanted
First apologies to "!!!" for going off topic now in your thread, so I promise this will be my last off-topic post.
Hiya "Oh!", yes I see your point about mistress, it's that sex and marriage thing.
All I can point out is the base, fundamental truth that cuts across race, religion, marriage, men and women and all walks of life. Every individual living thing on this wonderful precious planet of ours, including us, is a vehicle and a means of passing DNA to the next generation.
Hiya "Oh!", yes I see your point about mistress, it's that sex and marriage thing.
All I can point out is the base, fundamental truth that cuts across race, religion, marriage, men and women and all walks of life. Every individual living thing on this wonderful precious planet of ours, including us, is a vehicle and a means of passing DNA to the next generation.
RE: husband wanted
Maybe the problem is that Gentlemen are no longer gentlemanly, just as nobility is no longer noble.
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If you would allow it, Madam or Sir (!!!), I would replay to the Gentleman that we nontheless have to respect the limits set in our society by marrital bonds. If we go along passing our DNA, it might create chaos not only in our society but also in our minds. And unfortunatelly crossing all lines and limits does not have much to do with love...
RE: husband wanted
Now "Oh!", are you a chat host? Then you of all people should not appear so self-righteous and so moral. This site exists to satisfy a mans sexual drive. Why else would a man spend hard-earned cash here? You are taking advantage of that biological wiring.
I am disappointed that you equate human genetic drive with anti-social and anarchic values. I think the opposite. The drive to pass DNA to offspring can be a very complex arrangement. The fact that humans are doing this successfully in a civilised society is just the means then, of how humans go about it. Though almost all human interaction, think about it, the way we dress, the way we act, using this site etc. is towards satisfying that drive.
And regarding the sanctity of marriage in this respect, you just take some time to look at the statistics for how many sexless marriages fail...
I am disappointed that you equate human genetic drive with anti-social and anarchic values. I think the opposite. The drive to pass DNA to offspring can be a very complex arrangement. The fact that humans are doing this successfully in a civilised society is just the means then, of how humans go about it. Though almost all human interaction, think about it, the way we dress, the way we act, using this site etc. is towards satisfying that drive.
And regarding the sanctity of marriage in this respect, you just take some time to look at the statistics for how many sexless marriages fail...
RE: husband wanted
Oh, you are so hard on me lol...regarding me as a simply chathost! What about being a gentleman?
In any case, chathosts or not, I doubt there would be many girls who would like to pass a DNA of a married guy for real and wait that his sexless marriage fails. Lets look at things stright- you are looking for sex outside of your marriage. blabla DNA
In any case, chathosts or not, I doubt there would be many girls who would like to pass a DNA of a married guy for real and wait that his sexless marriage fails. Lets look at things stright- you are looking for sex outside of your marriage. blabla DNA
RE: husband wanted
Now that's enough, I never used the word "simply", you made that up against me, quite unfairly, and you have gone too far now...
RE: husband wanted
Lol you are funny! Sorry, but you sound like an excentric professor of biology.
RE: husband wanted
If you are who I think you are, I would marry you in a flash!
Do you or have you ever worked in the Travel Industry? Your hair is long and your University qualification is in teaching...
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Do you or have you ever worked in the Travel Industry? Your hair is long and your University qualification is in teaching...
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RE: husband wanted
Why wouldn't you put your screen name up so that all eligible men meeting your criteria could contact you directly? Seems odd that you wouldn't get offers in your room.....all my regulars want to marry me :)
to all, especially one host in particular (i raged!)
Trying to paint himself as this righteous fellow , convincing himself that this host might just have psychological problems because his world view did not agree with her's. Highly confident (yawn), but completely delusional. Claiming he stopped talking to her for months but writing just about 20 paragraph about her, attempting to remain fair yet his insecurities are transparent. Disappointed with people? Your disappointed with yourself nothing more. Hurting because some people are deceitful? Are you even old enough to be here? The first people to have deceived you were your mommy and daddy when they made you believe that Santa-Claus was real... For future reference, keep in mind that a lot of members want to meet hosts and mostly for all the wrong reason. And sometimes a host doesn't even have to agree for a member to buy a plane ticket and travel half way around the globe. They just do. A lot of members that come here simply want to indulge in a fantasy to such a extend that it is impossible for a host to diffuse it. And yes they make a living out of this. Your just to blindly infatuated with this girl to separate truth from fantasy. Most of the the time when talking with a host it is a fantasy on rare occasions it get's real. Grow up. People make their own choices, she didn't force anyone to send her gift, she didn't force anyone to travel to see her. And most of all, cut the righteous act, your not fooling anyone. You say you have stopped talking to her for months but she is clearly on your mind everyday . Trying to warn and help people.... please! And yes i do have friends that are host and i did meet a few in real. But i don't rant about it in a passive-aggressive way on a forum that i know she will read... I raged!
RE: to all, especially one host in particular (i raged!)
And why did you rage? Did she agree to meet you and let you rage about a bit? grr
RE: to all, especially one host in particular (i raged!)
well said but wasting your time with him. he has emotional support from "friendly" host. he just a toy in a big envious game.GET A LIFE! both him and his "friends".
this wont low her popularity! ever !
period.
this wont low her popularity! ever !
period.
RE: to all, especially one host in particular (i raged!)
A few days ago, a host I trust told me that the host in question had yet again done something to hurt a member. The member was still in the city of the host that had invited him. He might even be there right now.
I didn't go around asking people what she was up to lately. Instead, someone came to me. That is the only reason I brought this up now. And by the way, in terms of any participation by me in gossip, most of the time it is a host telling me something about another host or a member. I am just some guy going to video and don't chat with other members.
Unless I hear something from a host or read it in the forums, I have no information about anybody or anything that goes on here. For that reason, and because I thought the host at issue was a good person, I was very reluctant to believe any rumors. But then, something happened a few months ago that made me realize the rumors were most likely true. I saw how this host's behavior had changed a bit towards me at exactly the same time I was hearing from very reliable sources that this host was hurting, yet again, both hosts and members. I then ended my contact with this host. She wasn't being much of a friend with me, plus I had good information that she was hurting other people, so I saw no reason to stay in touch with her. What happened a few days ago simply confirmed my beliefs so I decided to post about it.
In terms of thinking about her, people sometimes mention her to me or I see her online, so it is not like you can forget she exists. But if you think that I am pining for her, you are mistaken. The only thing that I am missing is the friend that I lost, but unfortunately, that person never really existed. And that is not because it is a fantasy site since I do have friends from sites and have met them. It is solely because the host at issue turned out not to be the person I had thought she was.
I would suggest that you stick to whatever your educational background is. Your attempt at amateur psychology has failed, and if you really have some type of background in that field, I suggest that you ask for a refund from your university.
I will have to agree with people who think that I should have never posted here, however. Rather than help anyone, I am certain that this host feels she can get away with anything given the reaction that my post received. How could she feel otherwise?
I didn't go around asking people what she was up to lately. Instead, someone came to me. That is the only reason I brought this up now. And by the way, in terms of any participation by me in gossip, most of the time it is a host telling me something about another host or a member. I am just some guy going to video and don't chat with other members.
Unless I hear something from a host or read it in the forums, I have no information about anybody or anything that goes on here. For that reason, and because I thought the host at issue was a good person, I was very reluctant to believe any rumors. But then, something happened a few months ago that made me realize the rumors were most likely true. I saw how this host's behavior had changed a bit towards me at exactly the same time I was hearing from very reliable sources that this host was hurting, yet again, both hosts and members. I then ended my contact with this host. She wasn't being much of a friend with me, plus I had good information that she was hurting other people, so I saw no reason to stay in touch with her. What happened a few days ago simply confirmed my beliefs so I decided to post about it.
In terms of thinking about her, people sometimes mention her to me or I see her online, so it is not like you can forget she exists. But if you think that I am pining for her, you are mistaken. The only thing that I am missing is the friend that I lost, but unfortunately, that person never really existed. And that is not because it is a fantasy site since I do have friends from sites and have met them. It is solely because the host at issue turned out not to be the person I had thought she was.
I would suggest that you stick to whatever your educational background is. Your attempt at amateur psychology has failed, and if you really have some type of background in that field, I suggest that you ask for a refund from your university.
I will have to agree with people who think that I should have never posted here, however. Rather than help anyone, I am certain that this host feels she can get away with anything given the reaction that my post received. How could she feel otherwise?
RE: to all, especially one host in particular (i raged!)
and what exactly is your background in that field ?learned a few psychological terms while they were giving you electric shocks or how did you get to be such a guru?
RE: to all, especially one host in particular (i raged!)
Apologies to you sir. I was in a peculiar mood yesterday.
RE: to all, especially one host in particular (i raged!)
Members getting involved with hosts and host getting involved with members beyond CC almost always turns out to be a disaster. Use the site for what it was intended for...fantasy for older men and a part time job for some young girls.
RE: to all, especially one host in particular (i raged!)
Oh come on....you think that is what makes up the variety of people of this site...........wrong!!! From your perspective possibly but not close to reality!
RE: to all, especially one host in particular (i raged!)
I don't agree with how he went about it but your post is an over-reactive attack against him. Anyone defending her actions is feeding it more! If she is obviously giving her address and personal information, I truly believe that she is also inviting. With his unspecific way of getting the message to her and warning everyone was totally ineffective and annoying to all. Your attack to him was inappropriate. My opinion.
Busted for Illegal Downloads
I know this is not a matter related to things here, but I'd like some opinion. I just read of a young mother who downloaded 24 songs illegally from a music site. Jury has said she needs to pay 1.5 million US $ That in itself seem ridiculously extreme, but the question I have is, how does one illegally download music from a music site? If one has to pay for the songs in order to download them, and if one cannot download them without paying for them, how can it happen? And if it did happen, why was the music site also held liable for allowing it or at least making it possible for it to happen?
RE: Busted for Illegal Downloads
there is one site where it is legal to download ANYTHING coz of the laws in that country and there is nothing any company can do about it....if u wanna know the site ccmail me
RE: Busted for Illegal Downloads
That is absolutely wrong. There is NO such thing as a web site where "you can download ANYTHING because of the laws of that country." Copyright and trademark law -- as well as obscenity laws -- cross ALL international lines. So it might be okay for someone to set up a SERVER in a certain country...and the laws of that country might even be lax enough to host all kinds of files ON that server... but once you download anything you are 100% under the laws of the country that you are IN. So (as an example) if you live in the U.S. and think you can skirt the law because the site is in Russia -- you'd be VERY wrong. No matter where you got the file...whether you downloaded it from a web site or got it thru a peer-to-peer file trading network... once you download a file and it reached your hard drive, you can now be penalized for possessing it -- plain and simple.
So don't EVER think that just because a web site or server or computer is in a certain place that it makes it okay for you to download certain things. Because it DOESN'T and if it's an illegal file, you'll be in danger of arrest or financial prosecution just like this woman.
So don't EVER think that just because a web site or server or computer is in a certain place that it makes it okay for you to download certain things. Because it DOESN'T and if it's an illegal file, you'll be in danger of arrest or financial prosecution just like this woman.
RE: Busted for Illegal Downloads
1. The copyright laws in the USA have very harsh penalties. This is not the first case of a person being hammered with fines. As extreme as it seems, this case is not unusual. What is unsual is that the person was caught, not they they were hammered once it happened.
2. People download music from various sites for free. There are sites where people share files from each other's computers. It is not like someone went to iTunes and somehow downloaded songs without paying. Perhaps imshy knows of a site that actually has music on its servers, but like I said, usually the music is coming from another person's computer.
3. I am not sure if the site would have any liability for making the downloads possible. Since the site could be used to share things that are not copyrighted, it could simply be the case that the law says the people doing the downloading are responsible, not the site itself, but I don't know.
2. People download music from various sites for free. There are sites where people share files from each other's computers. It is not like someone went to iTunes and somehow downloaded songs without paying. Perhaps imshy knows of a site that actually has music on its servers, but like I said, usually the music is coming from another person's computer.
3. I am not sure if the site would have any liability for making the downloads possible. Since the site could be used to share things that are not copyrighted, it could simply be the case that the law says the people doing the downloading are responsible, not the site itself, but I don't know.
RE: Busted for Illegal Downloads
I'm not interested in downloading music without paying for it. I believe in copyrights. However, I just cannot understand how she could do it from this particular site. It is not iTunes but Kazaa, which is like iTunes I understand in that you have to pay for the service. Also, I left out a word, the music company was NOT held liable for enabling or allowing it, at least that information was not stated in the article.
RE: Busted for Illegal Downloads
Kazaa used to be an illegal peer to peer system so I suppose it could relate to downloads prior to it going legit. It does mention a case from 2007 where a woman was fined $9,250 for each of the 24 songs that she was accused of downloading. I'm not sure if this is the one you refer to as that does not come anywhere near $1.5 million.
A quick summary of this case...
It's all the SAME woman. This legal fight has been going on for a few years now. The woman posted 24 songs on a peer-to-peer network. Then 2,000 people downloaded the song files. As part of an Internet crackdown by the music industry on file trading, they traced it all back to her. So the RIAA (the record industry) took her to court because they felt she should compensate them for any money they had lost.
In her first trial, she was found guilty by a jury and fined something like $1 million. She thought that amount was crazy, so she appealed her case. A second judge thought that amount was crazy too, but he ALSO thought she was guilty of trading the files. So he knocked the penalty down to a much low number --around $9,000 per song as somebody mentioned. At that point she could have paid the fine and gotten out cheap, but she STILL felt she hadn't done anything wrong.
So she went back to court yet again and just lost for the third time. Worst of all, the latest judge raised the penalty to $1.5 million. However, she's determined to avoid paying anything at all, so now she's appealing her case yet again. So the legal battle continues.
In her first trial, she was found guilty by a jury and fined something like $1 million. She thought that amount was crazy, so she appealed her case. A second judge thought that amount was crazy too, but he ALSO thought she was guilty of trading the files. So he knocked the penalty down to a much low number --around $9,000 per song as somebody mentioned. At that point she could have paid the fine and gotten out cheap, but she STILL felt she hadn't done anything wrong.
So she went back to court yet again and just lost for the third time. Worst of all, the latest judge raised the penalty to $1.5 million. However, she's determined to avoid paying anything at all, so now she's appealing her case yet again. So the legal battle continues.
RE: Busted for Illegal Downloads
Illegal downloads of music have destroyed the music business. Notice how expensive concerts are? Sure they still sell CDs but not at the rate they once did. A lot of rich people are not as rich anymore. Plus an artist should be paid for their work....that being said I still download music all the time. Same thing is beginning to happen to video. Why rent or buy when you can download. Pretty soon you will be able to download a girl from CC.... I wish.
RE: Busted for Illegal Downloads
The music industry people make too much money anyway, i'll keep stealing all the music i want. I'm not putting producers, managers, singers in mansions just for making catchy sounds.
RE: Busted for Illegal Downloads
That's an easy rationalization for stealing, essentially. The truth is very few artists got rich even during good times.
Boundries! Same for everyone??
Do any hosts or members have positive stories regarding genuine friendships/relationshps/meetings between hosts & members. I know the nature of this site & some of the people who congregate here can lead to negatives. However a wise wanker once said, " For every nagative there is a positive". Apparently it's smg to do with balance.
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The wise wanker in question has probably never read these forums...
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The wise wanker in question has probably never read these forums...
RE: Boundries! Same for everyone??
Ha ! yeah , i knew u date other girls too :)) poor me !
RE: Boundries! Same for everyone??
I've become quite close to this one host. She's the only one i go private with on here. Ofcourse i don't pvt often, once every other month or so, we talk elsewhere, so its not necessary, but sometimes i feel bad so i pay. We plan to meet someday, when we're both done with school maybe. even agreed to a date! lol
RE: Boundries! Same for everyone??
I would suggest that for every positive there are scores of negatives. I really liked a couple of hosts here over the past few years. So much so I was planning on visiting them and see what could get going. These were, girls that for all appearances were what they said they were and I thought were honest, intelligent and truly interested in me. In every case they turned out to be less than truthful and friendship beyond or outside of their commercial interest in this site was non-existent. Part of that is because hosts do not trust members and realistically the time, money and effort to start and foster a long-distance, multi cultural romance is staggering...if anything the girls here are realists. Take the money and run.
RE: WHY CANT THERE BE A NORMAL MAN IN THE WORLD????
I had a very active dating life since I was 16 until I got married at the age of 45 and I can say that although some women I dated were incredibly beautiful sometimes I wanted to just stand up and leave or just tell my date to go away. Because of my principles and education I never offended any woman and I never left her alone and always took them to their home, if I picked her up. However, sometimes I never called and/or never answered. There are times when you feel attracted to someone and you feel you found the love of your life, however when you get know more about this person, the story changes completely. It might be little differences like he eat meat and you are a vegetarian. He smokes and you dont. You like dancing and doesnt, etc.... Maybe thats what happened with you and your date. Just take it easy. A better opportunity always comes along.
RE: WHY CANT THERE BE A NORMAL MAN IN THE WORLD????
A long time ago, I had a blind date that I met at a restaurant. I saw who she was before she saw me and wanted to bolt. The date went horribly, of course, and it was hard to have a conversation.
I know it is not nice to say, but this woman was so unattractive to me that I just couldn't move past it. I mean, there was just no way I could see past her looks even if she was an angel. Anyway, we didn't talk a lot, ate dinner, I paid, and said goodnight.
Looking back, I guess I could have been open to the possibility that she might be a good person and that I could make a new friend, but I was so focused on the idea of meeting someone to start dating if things went well, that I just couldn't. Still, I tried not to be rude or anything although since she was probably self-conscious about her looks and we had talked a little on the phone and got along okay, maybe she read my mind and I hurt her a bit. :(
I know it is not nice to say, but this woman was so unattractive to me that I just couldn't move past it. I mean, there was just no way I could see past her looks even if she was an angel. Anyway, we didn't talk a lot, ate dinner, I paid, and said goodnight.
Looking back, I guess I could have been open to the possibility that she might be a good person and that I could make a new friend, but I was so focused on the idea of meeting someone to start dating if things went well, that I just couldn't. Still, I tried not to be rude or anything although since she was probably self-conscious about her looks and we had talked a little on the phone and got along okay, maybe she read my mind and I hurt her a bit. :(
RE: WHY CANT THERE BE A NORMAL MAN IN THE WORLD????
She didn't lie to me although people that set us didn't give me the full picture. If she had lied to me, I would have been gone without any hesitation.
RE: WHY CANT THERE BE A NORMAL MAN IN THE WORLD????
No doubt you met a gay white boy. Try a black stud.
RE: WHY CANT THERE BE A NORMAL MAN IN THE WORLD????
normal is to man,as black is to white,night is to day etc etc :--)
RE: WHY CANT THERE BE A NORMAL MAN IN THE WORLD????
WHY CANT THERE BE A NORMAL WOMEN IN THE WORLD????hmmmmmm
RE: WHY CANT THERE BE A NORMAL MAN IN THE WORLD????
I think he was asking himself what you are smoking as oppsed to whether or not you smoke, lol.
RE: WHY CANT THERE BE A NORMAL MAN IN THE WORLD????
it was a wrong man in a wrong time^^))) good luck baby))
RE: WHY CANT THERE BE A NORMAL MAN IN THE WORLD????
Well, you seem so convinced that this guy was the problem, that it couldn't possibly be you, right? Or, could it?
RE: WHY CANT THERE BE A NORMAL MAN IN THE WORLD????
So you just met this guy, right, and expected to be kissing and more and what not...Perhaps he's not the kind of guy to just hookup so easily with someone he just met. Did he exchange numbers or anything? Call me old fashioned, but I wouldn't try hooking up with someone i only just met.
RE: WHY CANT THERE BE A NORMAL MAN IN THE WORLD????
Don't be upset, dear. Don't take it personal. The heart wants what the hearts wants. We can't control it. Also, you never know what the other person is going through at the time.
RE: WHY CANT THERE BE A NORMAL MAN IN THE WORLD????
If you swap Man for Woman that sounds just like what happens to me. Okay apart from the bit where he (she) says your beautiful and the part where he (she) agrees to have a drink with you. But the rest of it is spot on :D
to all, especially one host in particular
It is no secret that hosts and members lie to each other at times for various reasons. Among the most obvious reasons are that hosts are trying to get more money and members are trying to get sex in real. Obviously, neither of these things should happen, but unfortunately, they do.
I had heard stories about one particular host that disturbed me, but I always dismissed them since i considered her a friend, and she hadn't done anything significantly wrong to me to my knowledge. In fact, she still hasn't other than my realizing that she wasn't the good person that I thought she was and my resulting disappointment in her and in people in general.
But what this one host has done to others has taken the games that occur on CC too far. On a number of occasions, she has invited people to her country only to refuse to meet them. Lying to a member so that they stay longer in video and send presents, I understand. I obviously don't like it or approve of it, but I am realistic and understand this sometimes will happen. But to be so cruel as to tell several members you will meet him just so they waste their time and money flying across the globe is taking things too far and is indicative of someone that is evil deep inside. I can only imagine that she has some type of psychological problem, hates men, or at least hates members, or perhaps she is just angry at the world and wants to hurt people. I have no idea, but something is wrong with her.
My sources are extremely good in my view. Until the last couple of months, I would hear a number of stories about this host and just dismiss them because she and I had a good relationship and I considered her a friend. Then, I saw that she was not as friendly with me, and I had learned that someone close to her had died from another source. I also noticed a change in how she acted with me, not that she had done anything wrong to me, but that she didn't seem to be as willing to chat or be open so I figured she was going through a rough time. She had also lost another person close to her a few years back. Maybe she is just angry at the world. I don't know. But these stories go back more than just a few months, and now, regardless of any personal problems she may have, the hurt she has caused members has gone too far.
Maybe she actually does have a psychological problem or is just foolish since she gives her actual address to members, presumably to send gifts, and then invites them to visit. That is just plain stupid for obvious reasons, but she doesn't seem to care. And no, there is no indication that these guys are just flying to go visit her without being invited.
I should add that while I do not know the members that she has invited to visit, I know hosts that know these members so I have learned what type of people these members are. They seem to be nice guys who fell in love and this host took advantage of based upon what my host friends tell me. It is of course possible that these hosts that I hear the stories from are lying to me, but they have no reason to. They are top hosts here so have no reason to be jealous of this host, and I do not visit any of these sources in video and they do not expect me too. They are simply online friends that I talk to all the time and expect nothing of me. Plus, the members that have no reason to lie to them. These other hosts are their friends too. In other words, unless it is one big conspiracy to attack this particular host's reputation, the stories are too consistent and too believeable to be anything but true.
What pushed me over the edge in terms of this host a few month back was not just that she had been doing these things to hurt members, but then I learned she was also doing things to hurt other hosts as well. This surprised me since the host at issue is someone just about everyone here, both hosts and members alike, respect. She is always helpful in the host forum, and I don't think that I ever read a bad word about her in either the general or viewer forum. Everyone seems to like her unlike some other popular hosts here.
To the host that I am talking about, I am still very disappointed in you. I considered you a good person and a friend. I still am sad when I think about you because I miss the person that I thought you were. Unfortunately, I was wrong about you. Do not worry, however. I only discuss you with hosts that tell me about you. I am not telling everyone else who you are, and neither are they to my knowledge. You may continue your games if you wish, but I hope that you will not.
I don't know if your very good host friend here knows what you are doing, but if she does, and if she remains friends with you, then shame on her. Like I said, I told you goodbye the moment I realized what you were really about. Why would anyone do anything different? Who would want to be a friend with someone that hurts people even if she does nothing wrong to you personally? Besides, if she is constantly hurting other people, it might only be a matter of time before her friends are next.
I do want to thank the host that I am talkng about. While she disappointed me and hurt my faith in people, she never did anything to me that I could consider too bad. Since I really cared about her, she probably could have easily hurt me if she had wanted to. Perhaps she liked me and respected me for whatever reason and spared me her games. She even would tell me to leave her video and not waste my money on her, and she was serious. I trusted her and liked her very much. And like I said, I miss the person that I thought she was because I really liked everything about that person. Maybe she only hurts people she thinks deserve it for whatever reason even if they had done nothing wrong to her because I think the members she has hurt haven't done anything wrong to her from what I hear. I don't know.
I hope that she will read this and stop her games, or at least stop telling guys to visit. That is taking things way too far. She should ask herself if those people that she has lost would want her to act this way if they could see what she is doing now. And for the rest of you, both hosts and members alike, I would hope that you try to be a bit more honest and respectful of each others' feelings as well. This may be a fantasy site in most people's view, but the feelings here still can be real.
I had heard stories about one particular host that disturbed me, but I always dismissed them since i considered her a friend, and she hadn't done anything significantly wrong to me to my knowledge. In fact, she still hasn't other than my realizing that she wasn't the good person that I thought she was and my resulting disappointment in her and in people in general.
But what this one host has done to others has taken the games that occur on CC too far. On a number of occasions, she has invited people to her country only to refuse to meet them. Lying to a member so that they stay longer in video and send presents, I understand. I obviously don't like it or approve of it, but I am realistic and understand this sometimes will happen. But to be so cruel as to tell several members you will meet him just so they waste their time and money flying across the globe is taking things too far and is indicative of someone that is evil deep inside. I can only imagine that she has some type of psychological problem, hates men, or at least hates members, or perhaps she is just angry at the world and wants to hurt people. I have no idea, but something is wrong with her.
My sources are extremely good in my view. Until the last couple of months, I would hear a number of stories about this host and just dismiss them because she and I had a good relationship and I considered her a friend. Then, I saw that she was not as friendly with me, and I had learned that someone close to her had died from another source. I also noticed a change in how she acted with me, not that she had done anything wrong to me, but that she didn't seem to be as willing to chat or be open so I figured she was going through a rough time. She had also lost another person close to her a few years back. Maybe she is just angry at the world. I don't know. But these stories go back more than just a few months, and now, regardless of any personal problems she may have, the hurt she has caused members has gone too far.
Maybe she actually does have a psychological problem or is just foolish since she gives her actual address to members, presumably to send gifts, and then invites them to visit. That is just plain stupid for obvious reasons, but she doesn't seem to care. And no, there is no indication that these guys are just flying to go visit her without being invited.
I should add that while I do not know the members that she has invited to visit, I know hosts that know these members so I have learned what type of people these members are. They seem to be nice guys who fell in love and this host took advantage of based upon what my host friends tell me. It is of course possible that these hosts that I hear the stories from are lying to me, but they have no reason to. They are top hosts here so have no reason to be jealous of this host, and I do not visit any of these sources in video and they do not expect me too. They are simply online friends that I talk to all the time and expect nothing of me. Plus, the members that have no reason to lie to them. These other hosts are their friends too. In other words, unless it is one big conspiracy to attack this particular host's reputation, the stories are too consistent and too believeable to be anything but true.
What pushed me over the edge in terms of this host a few month back was not just that she had been doing these things to hurt members, but then I learned she was also doing things to hurt other hosts as well. This surprised me since the host at issue is someone just about everyone here, both hosts and members alike, respect. She is always helpful in the host forum, and I don't think that I ever read a bad word about her in either the general or viewer forum. Everyone seems to like her unlike some other popular hosts here.
To the host that I am talking about, I am still very disappointed in you. I considered you a good person and a friend. I still am sad when I think about you because I miss the person that I thought you were. Unfortunately, I was wrong about you. Do not worry, however. I only discuss you with hosts that tell me about you. I am not telling everyone else who you are, and neither are they to my knowledge. You may continue your games if you wish, but I hope that you will not.
I don't know if your very good host friend here knows what you are doing, but if she does, and if she remains friends with you, then shame on her. Like I said, I told you goodbye the moment I realized what you were really about. Why would anyone do anything different? Who would want to be a friend with someone that hurts people even if she does nothing wrong to you personally? Besides, if she is constantly hurting other people, it might only be a matter of time before her friends are next.
I do want to thank the host that I am talkng about. While she disappointed me and hurt my faith in people, she never did anything to me that I could consider too bad. Since I really cared about her, she probably could have easily hurt me if she had wanted to. Perhaps she liked me and respected me for whatever reason and spared me her games. She even would tell me to leave her video and not waste my money on her, and she was serious. I trusted her and liked her very much. And like I said, I miss the person that I thought she was because I really liked everything about that person. Maybe she only hurts people she thinks deserve it for whatever reason even if they had done nothing wrong to her because I think the members she has hurt haven't done anything wrong to her from what I hear. I don't know.
I hope that she will read this and stop her games, or at least stop telling guys to visit. That is taking things way too far. She should ask herself if those people that she has lost would want her to act this way if they could see what she is doing now. And for the rest of you, both hosts and members alike, I would hope that you try to be a bit more honest and respectful of each others' feelings as well. This may be a fantasy site in most people's view, but the feelings here still can be real.
RE: to all, especially one host in particular
First of all, please consider using paragraphs so it is easier to read your post. I think a few periods, et cetera were also missing. Second, it would probably be a good idea to read the entire post before responding to it, lol. Third, based on your response, it is obvious that you are still angry at whatever happened to you, and while I have no idea what you are talking about, I highly doubt that I was involved. Finally, you may want to take notice of the fact that I never name the host and don't give too many specific clues about her although I said enough that she personally will probably know who I am and who I am talking about. I also said that I don't talk about this issue with anyone other than those that bring information to my attention. Unlike what happened to you, how then could I possibly be doing anything to hurt this host? Anyone I talk to already knows what is going on.
My post is simply an open letter to her to change her ways as well as an attempt to warn members to be careful and ask hosts and members to also be more respectful of each other. Enough was enough, and she needed to be called out about it, albeit without mentioning her name, and others needed to be warned that this type of thing is happening if they didn't know already. She is not the only one that does this from what I hear, but unlike with this host, I have no hard evidence about the truth as to what happens with other hosts in terms of this type of behavior.
Additionally, I am not in love with her, nor was I ever in love with her, contrary to what another person wrote. (It is amazing how people read into things.) She is simply someone I cared about at one time and considered a friend. I even said that she hadn't really done anything to me so I obviously have no reason to get back at her. As for you, you really need to get over whatever happened to you. The angry ramblings in your post, and your blaming me, lol, shows that you are still extremely upset.
In terms of your comments, I didn't conduct any type investigation. Rather, people came to me and told me things. I am sure it is no secret that people gossip here all the time. As I indicated in my post, I dismissed these comments because I considered these rumors to be without a basis because I liked and respected this host. The only thing I did that would even come close to "investigating" anything was that I mentioned what I heard to the host at issue awhile back, and of course, she denied everything. I believed her and forgot about it.
But more recently, I started hearing things that seemed much more credible. And something veryrecently happened where I knew the stories about this host inviting people to visit her where almost definitely true. Does that mean that I am 100% certain? No. And to be honest, I still like to think of this host as the good person that I thought she was so I still sometimes don't believe it, but the evidence in my personal opinion seems too strong, and this evidence goes beyond just rumors. I have now heard on several occasions from what I believe to be a first-hand, very credible witness.
Believe what you want, and I will do the same. But please save your attacks on me for the person that truly is responsible for hurting you. Thank you.
My post is simply an open letter to her to change her ways as well as an attempt to warn members to be careful and ask hosts and members to also be more respectful of each other. Enough was enough, and she needed to be called out about it, albeit without mentioning her name, and others needed to be warned that this type of thing is happening if they didn't know already. She is not the only one that does this from what I hear, but unlike with this host, I have no hard evidence about the truth as to what happens with other hosts in terms of this type of behavior.
Additionally, I am not in love with her, nor was I ever in love with her, contrary to what another person wrote. (It is amazing how people read into things.) She is simply someone I cared about at one time and considered a friend. I even said that she hadn't really done anything to me so I obviously have no reason to get back at her. As for you, you really need to get over whatever happened to you. The angry ramblings in your post, and your blaming me, lol, shows that you are still extremely upset.
In terms of your comments, I didn't conduct any type investigation. Rather, people came to me and told me things. I am sure it is no secret that people gossip here all the time. As I indicated in my post, I dismissed these comments because I considered these rumors to be without a basis because I liked and respected this host. The only thing I did that would even come close to "investigating" anything was that I mentioned what I heard to the host at issue awhile back, and of course, she denied everything. I believed her and forgot about it.
But more recently, I started hearing things that seemed much more credible. And something veryrecently happened where I knew the stories about this host inviting people to visit her where almost definitely true. Does that mean that I am 100% certain? No. And to be honest, I still like to think of this host as the good person that I thought she was so I still sometimes don't believe it, but the evidence in my personal opinion seems too strong, and this evidence goes beyond just rumors. I have now heard on several occasions from what I believe to be a first-hand, very credible witness.
Believe what you want, and I will do the same. But please save your attacks on me for the person that truly is responsible for hurting you. Thank you.
RE: to all, especially one host in particular
When someone starts a post by lecturing a host on how to use punctuation, I should know better and just stop reading.
Disappointed, sending up a general warning flag like this is pretty useless, because the rest of us are, like, whatever, dude. It mostly indicates a need for self-gratification IMHO.
Disappointed, sending up a general warning flag like this is pretty useless, because the rest of us are, like, whatever, dude. It mostly indicates a need for self-gratification IMHO.
RE: to all, especially one host in particular
hey guy, relax. i had a situation.guy was in love with me .i said him i wont meet him. after this he start to tell to all hosts. that he come in my city and my phone was swithed off. its was bullshit.i never invited him.never promissed to meet. sometimes guys lie to hosts. to make host look bad in others hosts eyes. they know that hosts probably will tell to others hosts etc. maybe member did lied 2 few hosts.and rumos start.
RE: to all, especially one host in particular
I am not sure how you would know whom exactly I am talking about. I can think of a few hosts that try to be helpful in the forums and that seem to be liked by all. I can also think of a couple of hosts that also try to be helpful in the forums, and while liked by some, are definitely not liked by all if one pays attention, lol. Anyway, I will not say more and hope that people will not start posting names in an effort to guess who it is. Besides, I have heard other hosts, regardless of their popularity and what people post about them, are doing the same thing so it will be tough to narrow down. The difference is that in this case, the evidence seems compelling, at least to me.
I could have just written her, but I felt it was important to give a wake up call to members and to ask people to reconsider how they treat one another here. Some members and hosts are newer than others, after all. (Ever noticed how many times people ask about did anyone ever get married to or meet a host?) I know some people never learn and that some never will change, but hopefully, that will not be the case for all people.
If I really wanted to hurt this host's reputation as apparently one person seemed to imply, it would be very easy, but I was trying to appeal to people's better nature, assuming they have one, not hurt this host. At the same time, once she sees the post, if for no other reason than to protect herself from losing members, maybe she will back off a bit. Maybe she will see that people know what is going on. She will know who I am and that I have used CC for a long time and have a long list of people that would give credibility to what I say. The next person that learns of her antics might not be so nice, and he might also be a long time member that people would trust. If such a person chose to go around telling everyone who she is and what she has done, her reputation could be destroyed. Too many people gossip here, and I guarantee that I know more about many of you than you would like, lol, and you probably know more about me than I would like as well. But as for me, this host didn't hurt me directly in any significant way, and even if she did, it still would be wrong to hurt her so I think an open letter to her is the best way to have proceeded.
I could have just written her, but I felt it was important to give a wake up call to members and to ask people to reconsider how they treat one another here. Some members and hosts are newer than others, after all. (Ever noticed how many times people ask about did anyone ever get married to or meet a host?) I know some people never learn and that some never will change, but hopefully, that will not be the case for all people.
If I really wanted to hurt this host's reputation as apparently one person seemed to imply, it would be very easy, but I was trying to appeal to people's better nature, assuming they have one, not hurt this host. At the same time, once she sees the post, if for no other reason than to protect herself from losing members, maybe she will back off a bit. Maybe she will see that people know what is going on. She will know who I am and that I have used CC for a long time and have a long list of people that would give credibility to what I say. The next person that learns of her antics might not be so nice, and he might also be a long time member that people would trust. If such a person chose to go around telling everyone who she is and what she has done, her reputation could be destroyed. Too many people gossip here, and I guarantee that I know more about many of you than you would like, lol, and you probably know more about me than I would like as well. But as for me, this host didn't hurt me directly in any significant way, and even if she did, it still would be wrong to hurt her so I think an open letter to her is the best way to have proceeded.
RE: to all, especially one host in particular
For one moment I was thinking of making you my new spiritual guru, but when I read << I guarantee that I know more about many of you than you would like>> I decided that you was actually just a creepy b*****d.
RE: to all, especially one host in particular
"Too many people gossip here, and I guarantee that I know more about many of you than you would like, lol, and you probably know more about me than I would like as well."
All I said is people gossip on CC, and that people know more about each other than one may like. If you disagree with that comment, then you are very naive.
I certainly don't like the idea that people talk about me, but that is just the way things are. I know that it has happened before, and it will happen again. I wish that I could say that I am 100% innocent of any wrongdoing in terms of gossip, but I don't think anybody here is. People gossip, end of story. But for whatever reason, you seem to take my comment to mean that I am going around investigating people. Again, there is no indication that is the case, nor is it the case.
You might not like that people gossip, but that is just the reality. And the more people like you blame me, read things into my post, say you can take care of yourself, accuse me of trying to create drama, et cetera, the more I understand how some guys can be so stupid as to fall for hosts' games and how some hosts just cannot resist the temptation to take advantage of them.
Everyone, please forget my post, as I am sure you already have. You obviously know best and don't need any friendly advice. And to the host that I referred to, I guess I should give you a big congratulations. Maybe some of these people really do deserve to be taken advantage of. They seem to know it all and certainly seem to want to blame everyone but themselves for their problems. As for me, I haven't been in video for weeks here because of this type of nonsense.
Oh, good luck in the contest everyone. I am sure more drama is soon to follow. I guess that will be my fault too.
And be careful... I am watching you, lmao.
All I said is people gossip on CC, and that people know more about each other than one may like. If you disagree with that comment, then you are very naive.
I certainly don't like the idea that people talk about me, but that is just the way things are. I know that it has happened before, and it will happen again. I wish that I could say that I am 100% innocent of any wrongdoing in terms of gossip, but I don't think anybody here is. People gossip, end of story. But for whatever reason, you seem to take my comment to mean that I am going around investigating people. Again, there is no indication that is the case, nor is it the case.
You might not like that people gossip, but that is just the reality. And the more people like you blame me, read things into my post, say you can take care of yourself, accuse me of trying to create drama, et cetera, the more I understand how some guys can be so stupid as to fall for hosts' games and how some hosts just cannot resist the temptation to take advantage of them.
Everyone, please forget my post, as I am sure you already have. You obviously know best and don't need any friendly advice. And to the host that I referred to, I guess I should give you a big congratulations. Maybe some of these people really do deserve to be taken advantage of. They seem to know it all and certainly seem to want to blame everyone but themselves for their problems. As for me, I haven't been in video for weeks here because of this type of nonsense.
Oh, good luck in the contest everyone. I am sure more drama is soon to follow. I guess that will be my fault too.
And be careful... I am watching you, lmao.
RE: to all, especially one host in particular
Hey will u stop it already? U call urself a "friend" of this host? Digging her personal life facts and spreading them here? So what that u didnt say her name? U said urself just now, that there are a few hosts who fit to this describtion. U know what will start now? Everyone will have in mind different hosts, and continues to spread these rumor (oh u know what i heard from the forum abt her? Im pretty sure he was talking abt this or that host) and so on and so on. U sound disgusting really. GET A LIFE-all i can tell u. U were looking for sympathy here? Well u wont get it. Proly u dont see how lame u sound. But lots of negative replies in this thread hopefullly make u understand it.
Stop crying like a little boy and move on. Ah and stop believing and listening to rumours. Like a girl, really. Except when a guy behaves like him-its even worse.
BTW so that u know-top hosts are more jealous and mean than others;) And this i know for a fact:) They spread rumours and gossips about each other, to reduce the competition. Witnessed this not once and not twice.
Stop crying like a little boy and move on. Ah and stop believing and listening to rumours. Like a girl, really. Except when a guy behaves like him-its even worse.
BTW so that u know-top hosts are more jealous and mean than others;) And this i know for a fact:) They spread rumours and gossips about each other, to reduce the competition. Witnessed this not once and not twice.
RE: to all, especially one host in particular
i have to agree, all the disgusting drama for what? friendly advice.well here's one for the op then, don't believe everything people tell you especially since you're SO disappointed in them.rather ironic heh?
RE: to all, especially one host in particular
god, the drama people invent here - you people really crack me up. :)
RE: to all, especially one host in particular
I assume that I am a part of that "all" to which you have addressed your verbiage. As such, would you mind explaining (preferably in less than 10,000 words) how exactly I am supposed to benefit from what you have written. I certainly don't need advice from you on how to behave, neither do I need your "researches" in order to understand the nature of humankind. Nor can it be taken as a warning to specifically heed; as the host is unnamed and I haven't the faintest idea of whom you speak. Basically, can I please have back the 5 minutes of my life I spent reading that.
RE: to all, especially one host in particular
You make some good points unlike most people that responded. While I am highly confident in what has occurred, it is ultimately for the victims to decide if they will name the host and CC to decide whether to post the name.
My goal was not to call out the host by name but rather to encourage her to stop and warn others that this type of thing occurs. I apologize that you think I am impugning the reputations of all hosts, but the reality is, that hosts and members need to be on guard at all times so making everyone think twice about whether to trust a particular person, be it a host or a member, probably isn't such a bad idea.
My goal was not to call out the host by name but rather to encourage her to stop and warn others that this type of thing occurs. I apologize that you think I am impugning the reputations of all hosts, but the reality is, that hosts and members need to be on guard at all times so making everyone think twice about whether to trust a particular person, be it a host or a member, probably isn't such a bad idea.
RE: to all, especially one host in particular
I accepted the reality of what she was about around 3 months ago and have not spoken to her since, but no, I do not like it, and do wish I was wrong. I only posted now because I just learned she had hurt yet another person and decided she needed to be encouraged to stop.
My post is not about me, as you try to make it out to be. It is about trying to help others and getting this person to change. It would seem obvious that one needs to be careful in both real and online (although a site like this is worse than in real in my view), but obviously many people do not get that point. And I bet some of these people, be them hosts or members, who think they already know everything also are being manipulated more than they realize.
My post is not about me, as you try to make it out to be. It is about trying to help others and getting this person to change. It would seem obvious that one needs to be careful in both real and online (although a site like this is worse than in real in my view), but obviously many people do not get that point. And I bet some of these people, be them hosts or members, who think they already know everything also are being manipulated more than they realize.
RE: to all, especially one host in particular
I am sorry but in my opinion I don't think you are going to make a bit of difference in changing what she is doing by this form. Obviously she thinks that she hasn't done anything wrong is why she continues. She probably has no conscience. The only thing that will stop her and also put a warning out to other hosts that do similar things is to expose her....period. That gives her a chance also (in case it's not true) for her rebuttal. The only other option is to communicate directly with her and let her know how disappointed you are in her and suggest that she might be exposed.
There are a lot of people on this site and a lot of good people here. There are also some successful relationships that have developed from this site. To put the doubt in everyone because there are some out there that are scams is not right!! Let her be accountable and others like her will see what could happen to them.....it will correct itself. To cast the shadow of fear of all hosts being that "bad host" is not fair. Why are you protecting her and exposing more members to her?? That makes no sense to me.
Good Luck....I hope you make the right decision to spare other members expense and grief without putting the shadow of doubt on ALL Hosts!!
There are a lot of people on this site and a lot of good people here. There are also some successful relationships that have developed from this site. To put the doubt in everyone because there are some out there that are scams is not right!! Let her be accountable and others like her will see what could happen to them.....it will correct itself. To cast the shadow of fear of all hosts being that "bad host" is not fair. Why are you protecting her and exposing more members to her?? That makes no sense to me.
Good Luck....I hope you make the right decision to spare other members expense and grief without putting the shadow of doubt on ALL Hosts!!
RE: to all, especially one host in particular
with members no chance, belive me...;) i know it very good, i had been trough this.:)
RE: to all, especially one host in particular
WTF was the point of (a) You writing all that .... and (b) Me goddam reading it??
Why don't you change all the 'She is/has/was' to 'You are/have/were' ?Then it becomes a perfectly fine email - which you can feckin send her.... in private!
Why don't you change all the 'She is/has/was' to 'You are/have/were' ?Then it becomes a perfectly fine email - which you can feckin send her.... in private!
RE: to all, especially one host in particular
me too damn ... wasted few minutes with this crap :)))
RE: to all, especially one host in particular
Yeah, it made my eyes hurt lol, wtf, he thinks that its useful for us? Thinks that it will change her attitude (if its all true ofc) or members will be more careful and hosts will stop playing games? Seriously? AND HE CALLS EVERYONE WHO DOESNT AGREE WITH HIN NAIVE LOL? Nice))
RE: to all, especially one host in particular
i am not going to tell you not to believe any rumor that comes your way because you seem way too decided to dismiss any other perspective but keep in mind gossip is by definition unreliable.i don't believe for a second a host would ask someone to visit and not show up especially when the guy knows where she lives.i am not calling you a liar by any means but that statement is purely ridiculous.also,these babes are drop dead gorgeous and here for mainly one purpose and that's to make money which is based on telling a guy what he wants to hear.if anyone is naive or has enough balls to play with fire keep in mind there's always the risk to get burnt and then you'll come here and whine about it and we hate to tell you told you so.moreover,don't call someone that you throw mud at and find cruel,evil and mentally sick your friend.it's rather hypocritical and that tells us more about you than her.last but not least,don't act like some knight in white armor,no one is entirely innocent here whatever side you'd look at
RE: to all, especially one host in particular
You are ignoring the fact that this is not a host that invited a guy from the same city to go visit her and didn't show up even though he had her address. What is this guy going to do when there is a good chance he neither knows the language nor has any friends when he shows up, probably after being given an expensive tour of the city by some taxi driver? He is powerless in most cases although obviously she is taking a big risk.
For all I know, this may be exactly why she never did this type of thing to me. She knows that I know many people in her city, and that I have visited there before. (I met her on CC after my visit, by the way.)
You also may not have the same type of daily contact that I and some other members have with hosts in terms of chatting with them as friends outside of CC as opposed to just being members. You might be surprised by some of what goes on here in terms of how some host treat members and how many members fall for lies. It goes way beyond just spending some extra money in video in some cases. I think every member probably has spent more money on a host in video because she seemed to truly like him as a person only to find out she just wanted him in video. (Is it contest time already, lol?) Maybe that is even part of a host's job since it is part of giving the member a good time. But some ot the other things that are happening are much worse.
A lot of times, the member opens the door by showing the host how much he wants to be with her so she decides to take advantage of him. The member basically has a sign on his head that says "I'm an idiot. Take advantage of me" and some hosts cannot resist. Unfortunately, this particular host has been taking things way too far.
As I told another person, you believe what you want, and I will do the same. Even hosts that I am friends with tell me how they get guys to stay longer in video and send presents even though they really don't care about the member. Depending on the situation, I will tell them if I think they are doing something wrong and suggest where to draw the line.
The stupidity of some members is without limits. In fact, I think some guys actually like being screwed over by hosts given some of the stories I hear. I guess they are sort of like the money slaves my friends tell me visit them. Or maybe it that some guys are so lonely that they will do anything to try to get someone to love them. I really don't know what makes them so vulnerable but none of this excuses what this particular host has done.
I want to be clear, by the way. Members aren't angels either. I constantly hear stories about married guys visiting my friends. And while I am less familiar with stories of members taking advantage of hosts, I am confident that is happening too.
It's the internet, and CC is a sexual site. That is all you need to know to be on your guard whether you are a host or a member. It just would be nice if you didn't have to be or at a minimum, people wouldn't take things too far. Lying to get a guy into video is wrong, but to be expected, but what this host is doing is way over the top. Some hosts are "honest" hosts, but sadly, many are not, and the same goes for members too. And like I said in another post, some of you who think that you're not being lied to and not being taken advantage of are very mistaken. Unless you simply look at CC as a sex site, never allow a personal connection to develop, and all the video sessions that you are in consist of the host stripping and the member wanking, you are vulnerable, and probably more vulnerable than you realize.
For all I know, this may be exactly why she never did this type of thing to me. She knows that I know many people in her city, and that I have visited there before. (I met her on CC after my visit, by the way.)
You also may not have the same type of daily contact that I and some other members have with hosts in terms of chatting with them as friends outside of CC as opposed to just being members. You might be surprised by some of what goes on here in terms of how some host treat members and how many members fall for lies. It goes way beyond just spending some extra money in video in some cases. I think every member probably has spent more money on a host in video because she seemed to truly like him as a person only to find out she just wanted him in video. (Is it contest time already, lol?) Maybe that is even part of a host's job since it is part of giving the member a good time. But some ot the other things that are happening are much worse.
A lot of times, the member opens the door by showing the host how much he wants to be with her so she decides to take advantage of him. The member basically has a sign on his head that says "I'm an idiot. Take advantage of me" and some hosts cannot resist. Unfortunately, this particular host has been taking things way too far.
As I told another person, you believe what you want, and I will do the same. Even hosts that I am friends with tell me how they get guys to stay longer in video and send presents even though they really don't care about the member. Depending on the situation, I will tell them if I think they are doing something wrong and suggest where to draw the line.
The stupidity of some members is without limits. In fact, I think some guys actually like being screwed over by hosts given some of the stories I hear. I guess they are sort of like the money slaves my friends tell me visit them. Or maybe it that some guys are so lonely that they will do anything to try to get someone to love them. I really don't know what makes them so vulnerable but none of this excuses what this particular host has done.
I want to be clear, by the way. Members aren't angels either. I constantly hear stories about married guys visiting my friends. And while I am less familiar with stories of members taking advantage of hosts, I am confident that is happening too.
It's the internet, and CC is a sexual site. That is all you need to know to be on your guard whether you are a host or a member. It just would be nice if you didn't have to be or at a minimum, people wouldn't take things too far. Lying to get a guy into video is wrong, but to be expected, but what this host is doing is way over the top. Some hosts are "honest" hosts, but sadly, many are not, and the same goes for members too. And like I said in another post, some of you who think that you're not being lied to and not being taken advantage of are very mistaken. Unless you simply look at CC as a sex site, never allow a personal connection to develop, and all the video sessions that you are in consist of the host stripping and the member wanking, you are vulnerable, and probably more vulnerable than you realize.
RE: to all, especially one host in particular
Hey are u a college professor by any chance? Cuz u cant stop lecturing it seems.
Taking advantage of poor desperate guys? Are u for real? I know how it works. Some guys cant take NO for an answer, they insist on a real meeting, and dont hear a NO. Keep insisting. Happened once to me, a member was trying to convince me to accept him comming to my city, i dont play games, i say right away that there is no way that ill meet him. In 2-3 months he is telling me that he bought a ticket. Luckily i have no problems with telling him that he is a f*****g j**k for doing this, and he heard a lot of words that day that he thought a lady doesnt know. But some girls are really nice and they just cant be that str8, members keep insisting, she doesnt say no but doesnt say yes either, its a fantasy after all, gotta keep it going, thats what he is here for. And then guys think she wants them to come and fly, and they are very much surprised that she didnt show up cuz she "invited" them!!!!
And btw taking advantage of a poor desperate and lonely guys? What advantage exactly? What benefits does she get when he comes to her country and she doesnt show up? Jeez. Or are u talking abt vids? Well thats her job, mister. Flirting and making him feel wanted. U didnt know it?
Anyway, u keep collecting rumours, if u have nothing more interesting to do. And dont forget that you heard just guys' stories, u didnt talk to ur host about it. There are 2 sides of each coin.
Taking advantage of poor desperate guys? Are u for real? I know how it works. Some guys cant take NO for an answer, they insist on a real meeting, and dont hear a NO. Keep insisting. Happened once to me, a member was trying to convince me to accept him comming to my city, i dont play games, i say right away that there is no way that ill meet him. In 2-3 months he is telling me that he bought a ticket. Luckily i have no problems with telling him that he is a f*****g j**k for doing this, and he heard a lot of words that day that he thought a lady doesnt know. But some girls are really nice and they just cant be that str8, members keep insisting, she doesnt say no but doesnt say yes either, its a fantasy after all, gotta keep it going, thats what he is here for. And then guys think she wants them to come and fly, and they are very much surprised that she didnt show up cuz she "invited" them!!!!
And btw taking advantage of a poor desperate and lonely guys? What advantage exactly? What benefits does she get when he comes to her country and she doesnt show up? Jeez. Or are u talking abt vids? Well thats her job, mister. Flirting and making him feel wanted. U didnt know it?
Anyway, u keep collecting rumours, if u have nothing more interesting to do. And dont forget that you heard just guys' stories, u didnt talk to ur host about it. There are 2 sides of each coin.
RE: to all, especially one host in particular
It's okay I sold the ticket on e-bay (apparently to some guy on here and the host didn't even show up haha). However you are right. I heard a lot of words that would make a docker blush :P
RE: to all, especially one host in particular
Yes even when you are calling me a fucking jerk I can still see that sweet glint in you eye. Or is that just the reflection of the knife ?
RE: to all, especially one host in particular
OMG don't make excuses for some devious little hosts here. They exist, manipulate and become good at it! It seems to come from one country more than others...almost like they are raised to do such things. He clearly states that there were many guys that she manipulated. To defend every host here is being very naive or with blinders because you are a host!
Of course there are members here that read into a flirtation and tease more than it's intended but I don't believe that's the case here.
Of course there are members here that read into a flirtation and tease more than it's intended but I don't believe that's the case here.
RE: to all, especially one host in particular
I do find it strange that, if she is as bad as your post implies, no one has said a bad word about her in either of the forums.
Also I wish you had posted her name as I could then visit her, get an invite and go about boasting that a host had finally agreed to meet me :P
Also I wish you had posted her name as I could then visit her, get an invite and go about boasting that a host had finally agreed to meet me :P
RE: to all, especially one host in particular
I too found it strange that I only heard negative things through backchannels. That is one reason why I didn't believe anything, and I even asked the host at issue about it.
But then I started to hear from sources that seemed too believeable, especially one source. That doesn't mean that the guys telling the stories are not lying or coloring the "facts", of course. Maybe as MonikBabe suggested the guy just went over there without being invited. I've heard of that happening too.
But the clincher for me was when a host I know told me how the host at issue had hurt her directly. Then I knew that this particular host was not the person I thought she was. Between her having changed her way of dealing with me and learning that she had hurt another host from that host herself, I saw no reason to stay in contact with this particular host, told her I was disappointed in her, and said goodbye a few months ago. The only reason I posted now is that something new just happened. (See my reply to the raging post in the new thread above this one.)
And in terms of the obvious thought that maybe one of my sources was jealous and was trying to hurt this particular host, my main sources are too successful here to worry about this particular host, and they liked this host and considered this particular host a friend. And in terms of the host that was hurt, it wasn't a big deal and what happened probably happens a lot here. It just showed that the host at issue was willing to betray friends for her own personal gain.
I have also learned from two credible sources that the host at issue had lied to me about a few things, but nothing major. It just showed me that she really wasn't someone that looked at me as a friend. Her lies didn't have any negative effect on me other than disappointing me that she was not the person I had thought.
I suggest you read my post in the other thread above this one to see what I posted now. There is only so much I want to say (okay, I know I've said a lot, lol), but something happened very recently that confirmed my belief in the stories I was hearing and led to my posting now.
And with respect to you visitng her, this host is smart. She would never give a pervert like you her address, lol.
But then I started to hear from sources that seemed too believeable, especially one source. That doesn't mean that the guys telling the stories are not lying or coloring the "facts", of course. Maybe as MonikBabe suggested the guy just went over there without being invited. I've heard of that happening too.
But the clincher for me was when a host I know told me how the host at issue had hurt her directly. Then I knew that this particular host was not the person I thought she was. Between her having changed her way of dealing with me and learning that she had hurt another host from that host herself, I saw no reason to stay in contact with this particular host, told her I was disappointed in her, and said goodbye a few months ago. The only reason I posted now is that something new just happened. (See my reply to the raging post in the new thread above this one.)
And in terms of the obvious thought that maybe one of my sources was jealous and was trying to hurt this particular host, my main sources are too successful here to worry about this particular host, and they liked this host and considered this particular host a friend. And in terms of the host that was hurt, it wasn't a big deal and what happened probably happens a lot here. It just showed that the host at issue was willing to betray friends for her own personal gain.
I have also learned from two credible sources that the host at issue had lied to me about a few things, but nothing major. It just showed me that she really wasn't someone that looked at me as a friend. Her lies didn't have any negative effect on me other than disappointing me that she was not the person I had thought.
I suggest you read my post in the other thread above this one to see what I posted now. There is only so much I want to say (okay, I know I've said a lot, lol), but something happened very recently that confirmed my belief in the stories I was hearing and led to my posting now.
And with respect to you visitng her, this host is smart. She would never give a pervert like you her address, lol.
RE: to all, especially one host in particular
my main sources are too successful here to worry about this particular host, and they liked this host and considered this particular host a friend
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Are u freaking kidding me? The top hosts are more jealous than others, i heard a lot of times how they blackmouth each other, and lie abt each other. Ure too naive thinking that if a host is successful, she doesnt want to liquidate the main competitors.
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Are u freaking kidding me? The top hosts are more jealous than others, i heard a lot of times how they blackmouth each other, and lie abt each other. Ure too naive thinking that if a host is successful, she doesnt want to liquidate the main competitors.
RE: to all, especially one host in particular
I didn't spend a lot on the particular host that I wrote about. Nor did I spend a lot on any of my sources. None of these people ever were in the habit of trying to get me into video on a regular basis. I've seen you just as much as I've seen any of them, although unfortunately, I've seen more of them than of you, lol. And I haven't seen anyone here for a few weeks. I haven't even been here that much.
I understand your point, but these people have no reason to lie to me about another host any more than you would, at least in terms of getting more video from me. Plus, I hadn't even spoken to one of my sources for a few weeks when she brought recent events to my attention. It was more like "Do you remember this guy I had told you about? Well, I just got a call from him and...."
Under different circumstances, I could see where you would be exactly right in terms of hosts being jealous and members and hosts lying. But not in this particular case although obviously one never knows for sure.
I understand your point, but these people have no reason to lie to me about another host any more than you would, at least in terms of getting more video from me. Plus, I hadn't even spoken to one of my sources for a few weeks when she brought recent events to my attention. It was more like "Do you remember this guy I had told you about? Well, I just got a call from him and...."
Under different circumstances, I could see where you would be exactly right in terms of hosts being jealous and members and hosts lying. But not in this particular case although obviously one never knows for sure.
RE: to all, especially one host in particular
I think your post was actually okay but could have been a lot shorter and named the host because it would act as a warning and allow her to respond properly . You are getting a lot of stick from hosts to this post , i think the reason being , your description in your post could be a lot of women here ))) , i certainly can think of 4 - 5 hosts alone this post could apply to )) i think at least you could give the age of the host and her country . Morality and principles become skewed on this site , what the host did was very wrong ..... what is really wrong is when she doesnt say NO clearly and when a host takes advantage of someone who is clearly a genuinely good guy
RE: to all, especially one host in particular
Fair comment , maybe i should phrase it another way , why exploit or hurt say someone who has never done or said anything wrong to the host , who has always been well behaved , polite etc and given the host no reason to have a dislike .
I MISS MY BF :((
i miss my boyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, i miss to puch him , to scream at him , to say I LOVE HIM i miss to be in his arms in bed... i miss my foolish boy :(( :-< and i love him very bad :X
RE: I MISS MY BF :((
wow.. so sweet.. i wd love to have someone to miss like that...
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today's tidbit 2
an old man was sitting on a bench at the shopping centre.a teenager sat down next to him.he had spiked hair that was red,orange,yellow,green,blue & violet.the old man stared.whenever the teen looked,the old man was staring.finally the teenager said sarcastically"what's the matter old boy,never done anything wild in your life?"
without missing a beat,the old man replied"got drunk once & had sex with a peacock.just wondering if you were my son." :--)
without missing a beat,the old man replied"got drunk once & had sex with a peacock.just wondering if you were my son." :--)
today's tidbit 1
this isn't a trick question.it's legitimate & there is only 1 correct answer,which can be deduced logically.
Q:a man comes out of his tent,walks 10 metres south,then 10 metres west,sees a bear & then runs 10 metres north into his tent.what colour is the bear?
hope you're not looking here for the answer.if i knew i wouldn't need to ask the question! :--)
Q:a man comes out of his tent,walks 10 metres south,then 10 metres west,sees a bear & then runs 10 metres north into his tent.what colour is the bear?
hope you're not looking here for the answer.if i knew i wouldn't need to ask the question! :--)
RE: today's tidbit 1
White as it's at the North Pole. Or maybe red if it follows him into the tent and eats him.
RE: today's tidbit 1
is that a guess or the answer.if the latter please give reasons because i will need to when i go to school on monday.thanks in advance inyf :--)
RE: today's tidbit 1
It is the answer (obviously not the part about the bear being red) as the man must be at the North Pole. The problem is that most of us are used to looking at the world in an atlas in 2D and applying the compass points to that rather than the actual 3D world.
If you imagine being at the top of a ball and walking 10 metres (or millimetres seeing as it's a ball) in any direction you will always be going north. Then if he turns to go west (90 degree turn) he is now walking in a circle around the ball and no matter how far he walks he never actually gets any further away from the top of the ball so that, when he turns and walks north again for 10 metres, he is back at his camp again. So the bear is a polar bear.
If you imagine being at the top of a ball and walking 10 metres (or millimetres seeing as it's a ball) in any direction you will always be going north. Then if he turns to go west (90 degree turn) he is now walking in a circle around the ball and no matter how far he walks he never actually gets any further away from the top of the ball so that, when he turns and walks north again for 10 metres, he is back at his camp again. So the bear is a polar bear.
RE: today's tidbit 1
wow thanks inyf,now on monday when i give the answer everyone will think i've had a brainectomy :--)
RE: today's tidbit 1
Yup ... I say white too ... if my geometry still works then his tent moved - therefore it must be on some sort of broken ice flow?
Or to be completely anal about it - the Bear is actually no colour - as Polar Bear fur is actually translucent .... or if it happens to be summer then it would be yellowish due to the iodine contained in kelp which it eats (in addition to men in tents).
What a sad f**k I am! ..... Pub quiz anyone?
Or to be completely anal about it - the Bear is actually no colour - as Polar Bear fur is actually translucent .... or if it happens to be summer then it would be yellowish due to the iodine contained in kelp which it eats (in addition to men in tents).
What a sad f**k I am! ..... Pub quiz anyone?
RE: today's tidbit 1
It's white because he's at the north pole. No moving ice or anything. And polar bears are actually black underneath the fur! :O
Favourite members
I blew it with my 1st attempt to get posted so I try again, this time without names. Ladies, which members would you most like to vid you and why?
RE: Favourite members
Who not boring, with sence of humor, hot and like me and my showes so much that visit me regularly and stay with me as minimum 30 mins and can cam to cam and always say good bye before leaving. I don't mind stripping and dancing for such member. :P
RE: Favourite members
So the answer would be which of those is your favorite,; nice guys, rich guys, or hot guys.
RE: Favourite members
I'm sorry hun but you sound more like you belong in not shy with your comments and a little on the greedy side. Just my opinion.
Now to me what makes for a great viewer (which I am fortunate and have many like this)
1) They have an interest in sharing information back and forth to get to know each other. In my chat to start is fine but just remember I am usually typing to many others too. I take notes and enjoy the ongoing relationships...we both feel more at ease for future visits.
2) I enjoy meeting men from around the world and so even if they can't afford to come into video often I open my chat room to all and I enjoy conversing in-between videos. Keeps me in the mood and having fun.
3) Someone that is respectful, is open about what he wants, good sense of humor and playful and isn't barking orders unless we've agreed to play that. I keep my room fun and open without ever being rude and I appreciate the same in return. (it is rare that I get rude guests)
4) A nice bye and a good rating to reflect the time that we had together and not in comparison with all his other hosts.
5) If he isn't happy a comment in my personal forum for any constructive criticisms or an email so that I can improve and make it up to him with a free session. As well any comments about an exceptional experience or communication with me. I check it often.
6) I love a guest that is communicating with me while I am flirting, teasing and showing in video.....let's me know that he is enjoying and that is my goal. I love cam to cam for that reason too.
7) If a guy wants special clothes, stockings, shoes, etc. it should be on their dime when they are in video. I am not a time waster but it is an inconvenience to find and change outfits so I appreciate that they are in video when they expect me to change and sometimes I will so they can watch if they choose.
8) If you come into open video expect limited exposure and for others to come in. In 121 you can expect all my attention with most requests being met as long as they are within reason for softcore.
9) When I am online I am here to make it a great experience for my guests in video or chat. In return I get a lot of returning members and we develop a great repor. Like a business owner, I get rewarded with by the repeat customers and earning for doing a good job. I also believe in giving back for the people that support you in your business and am seriously considering having a half off rate once a month in appreciate for my customers with a password only invite.
10) Finally if you'd like to know who I am leave your email here and I will be in touch. If you're already one of the members that come to visit me.....I think you're all awesome :) Kisses
Now to me what makes for a great viewer (which I am fortunate and have many like this)
1) They have an interest in sharing information back and forth to get to know each other. In my chat to start is fine but just remember I am usually typing to many others too. I take notes and enjoy the ongoing relationships...we both feel more at ease for future visits.
2) I enjoy meeting men from around the world and so even if they can't afford to come into video often I open my chat room to all and I enjoy conversing in-between videos. Keeps me in the mood and having fun.
3) Someone that is respectful, is open about what he wants, good sense of humor and playful and isn't barking orders unless we've agreed to play that. I keep my room fun and open without ever being rude and I appreciate the same in return. (it is rare that I get rude guests)
4) A nice bye and a good rating to reflect the time that we had together and not in comparison with all his other hosts.
5) If he isn't happy a comment in my personal forum for any constructive criticisms or an email so that I can improve and make it up to him with a free session. As well any comments about an exceptional experience or communication with me. I check it often.
6) I love a guest that is communicating with me while I am flirting, teasing and showing in video.....let's me know that he is enjoying and that is my goal. I love cam to cam for that reason too.
7) If a guy wants special clothes, stockings, shoes, etc. it should be on their dime when they are in video. I am not a time waster but it is an inconvenience to find and change outfits so I appreciate that they are in video when they expect me to change and sometimes I will so they can watch if they choose.
8) If you come into open video expect limited exposure and for others to come in. In 121 you can expect all my attention with most requests being met as long as they are within reason for softcore.
9) When I am online I am here to make it a great experience for my guests in video or chat. In return I get a lot of returning members and we develop a great repor. Like a business owner, I get rewarded with by the repeat customers and earning for doing a good job. I also believe in giving back for the people that support you in your business and am seriously considering having a half off rate once a month in appreciate for my customers with a password only invite.
10) Finally if you'd like to know who I am leave your email here and I will be in touch. If you're already one of the members that come to visit me.....I think you're all awesome :) Kisses
please email me, i like your post
hi another glamhost,
please email me, you have got my interest with your post. so different from what i read here all the time. hope you will send me some kind of message to my screenname so i can find you.
please email me, you have got my interest with your post. so different from what i read here all the time. hope you will send me some kind of message to my screenname so i can find you.
RE: Favourite members
I admit, i have 2 hot american guys( i knows sounds strange good looking americans;) with who i cum lotsss.
one is 26 , working out, great shape and lcutee face, i would even liked to fuck him in real:"
No doubt both are gay
one is 26 , working out, great shape and lcutee face, i would even liked to fuck him in real:"
No doubt both are gay
RE: Favourite members
for me its regular member who never bother me and can become a good friend, who is polite and not greedy:P
RE: Favourite members
"It is okay to come in and be a watcher but just so you know it bores me to death."
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RE: country side surrounded with sweet apples:))vacantion
Nice :) I spent a day at my sister's country home. Stroked some horses who came to the fence to say 'hello' . Sat in the garden eating lunch there with a background of singing birds, no traffic noises. Listened to her husband's jazz group. Very good company, everybody relaxed and friendly. Left with some regret back to London....
RE: country side surrounded with sweet apples:))vacantion
I wish I could visit my grandparents, but they are no longer here. But always have fond memories, and was nice because I lived next door to my father's parents on a farm.
I think is reason I do not live in a city, but live in rural area near many farms. I love the quiet near my little log cabin, though it could be a little more distant from the road. It is nice to watch the rabbits and deer in the afternoons and see the stars so bright at night. No way I could ever move back into the city :)
I think is reason I do not live in a city, but live in rural area near many farms. I love the quiet near my little log cabin, though it could be a little more distant from the road. It is nice to watch the rabbits and deer in the afternoons and see the stars so bright at night. No way I could ever move back into the city :)
RE: country side surrounded with sweet apples:))vacantion
last week, before that a couple more weeks
today's tidbit 2
in ancient greece,socrates was widely lauded for his wisdom.one day an acqiaintance runs up to him & says"socrates,do you know what i just heard about diogenes?""wait a moment,"socrates replies"before you tell me i'd like you to pass a little test.it's called the triple filter test."
"triple filter?"asks the man.
"that's rigjht,"socrates says."before you talk to me about diogenes,let's take a moment to filter what you're going to say.the first filter is truth.are you sure what you're about to tell me is true?"
"no,"the man says."actually i just heard about it.""all right,"says socrates,"so you don't really kno0w if it's true or not.now,let's try the second filter,the filter of goodness.is what you're about to tell me about diogenes something good?"
"no,on the contrary...."
"so,socrates continues."you want to tell me something about diogenes that may be bad,even though you're not certain it's true?'
the man shrugs a little embarrassed as socrates continues"you may still pass the test,though,because there is a third filter,the filter of usefullness.is what you're about to tell me about diogenes going to be useful to me?'
"no,not really."
"well,"concludes socrates."if what you're going to tell me is not true,not good,not even useful,why tell it to me or anyone at all?"
the man is bewildered & ashamed..
this is an example of why socrates was a great philosopher & held in such high esteem.it also explains why he never found out diogenes was shagging his wife :--)
"triple filter?"asks the man.
"that's rigjht,"socrates says."before you talk to me about diogenes,let's take a moment to filter what you're going to say.the first filter is truth.are you sure what you're about to tell me is true?"
"no,"the man says."actually i just heard about it.""all right,"says socrates,"so you don't really kno0w if it's true or not.now,let's try the second filter,the filter of goodness.is what you're about to tell me about diogenes something good?"
"no,on the contrary...."
"so,socrates continues."you want to tell me something about diogenes that may be bad,even though you're not certain it's true?'
the man shrugs a little embarrassed as socrates continues"you may still pass the test,though,because there is a third filter,the filter of usefullness.is what you're about to tell me about diogenes going to be useful to me?'
"no,not really."
"well,"concludes socrates."if what you're going to tell me is not true,not good,not even useful,why tell it to me or anyone at all?"
the man is bewildered & ashamed..
this is an example of why socrates was a great philosopher & held in such high esteem.it also explains why he never found out diogenes was shagging his wife :--)
RE: today's tidbit 2
Back then anyone will shag anyone anytime. I wouldnt be surprised if Socrates shagged Diogenes too :-P
RE: today's tidbit 2
lol tis. Although surely the information should have passed the third test :P
today's tidbit 1
the world-renowned environmentalist,david suzuki,spoke at the opera house last weekend & presented a case that the planet is in the 59th minute of a suicidal economic growth.
the canadian asks us to imagine putting one bacterial cell,which divides every minute,into a test tube full of food.this is exponential growth,which is the path of humanity when it believes in unlimited economic growth.
"at time zero you have 1 cell;1 minute you have 2 cells;2 minutes you have 4 cells;3 minutes you have 8;4 you haveb 18 etc.that is exponential growth & at 60 minutes the test tube is completely full of bacteria & there is no food left,a 60 minute cycle.when is the test tube only 1/2 full?well,the answer,of course,is 59 minutes:but a minute later it's filled.so at 58 minutes it's only 25% full;57 minutes 12.5% full.at 55 minutes it's only 3% full."
"so,if at 55 minutes one of the bacteria said to one of its companions,that they had a population problem,the other bacteria would be incredulous because 97% of the test tube would be empty & they had been around 55 minutes.yet they would only have 5 minutes left.how do we add even a fraction of 1% more of air,water,soil or biodiversity?we can't.the biosphere is fixed & finite,& every biologist i have talked to agrees with me,we are past the 59th minute." :--)
the canadian asks us to imagine putting one bacterial cell,which divides every minute,into a test tube full of food.this is exponential growth,which is the path of humanity when it believes in unlimited economic growth.
"at time zero you have 1 cell;1 minute you have 2 cells;2 minutes you have 4 cells;3 minutes you have 8;4 you haveb 18 etc.that is exponential growth & at 60 minutes the test tube is completely full of bacteria & there is no food left,a 60 minute cycle.when is the test tube only 1/2 full?well,the answer,of course,is 59 minutes:but a minute later it's filled.so at 58 minutes it's only 25% full;57 minutes 12.5% full.at 55 minutes it's only 3% full."
"so,if at 55 minutes one of the bacteria said to one of its companions,that they had a population problem,the other bacteria would be incredulous because 97% of the test tube would be empty & they had been around 55 minutes.yet they would only have 5 minutes left.how do we add even a fraction of 1% more of air,water,soil or biodiversity?we can't.the biosphere is fixed & finite,& every biologist i have talked to agrees with me,we are past the 59th minute." :--)
RE: today's tidbit 1
Another interesting fact concerning world population is that if you placed every single person on Earth in a 2mx2m square, they would only take up the space of about one county in one state in the US.
As far as running out of food, this interesting fact can help with that. Each year in the US alone about 27.6 million tons of food goes to waste and ends up in the landfill, similar numbers per capita exist in most developed nations. We produce more than enough food to feed many times the amount of people currently on the Earth and here in the US the government pays farmers to not use millions of acres to produce food to keep the supply from becoming too large.
As for Water well the amount of water on the Earth hasn't changed in millions of years and the only limitation on using it to drink is purifying it, which can be done when needed.
I guess air would be the only other limiting factor but as long as we can keep plant life in the proper proportion to animal life that will not be a problem.
Also the rate of population growth is slowing now, not increasing, with many countries such as Russia experiencing drops in populations now since many people are not getting married now and most families are not having more than one child if any. People have been saying we have less than 20 years left before we overpopulate the planet since the 1960s or before, not sure why they still keep predicting such a catastrophe when the statistics really don't back it up.
As far as running out of food, this interesting fact can help with that. Each year in the US alone about 27.6 million tons of food goes to waste and ends up in the landfill, similar numbers per capita exist in most developed nations. We produce more than enough food to feed many times the amount of people currently on the Earth and here in the US the government pays farmers to not use millions of acres to produce food to keep the supply from becoming too large.
As for Water well the amount of water on the Earth hasn't changed in millions of years and the only limitation on using it to drink is purifying it, which can be done when needed.
I guess air would be the only other limiting factor but as long as we can keep plant life in the proper proportion to animal life that will not be a problem.
Also the rate of population growth is slowing now, not increasing, with many countries such as Russia experiencing drops in populations now since many people are not getting married now and most families are not having more than one child if any. People have been saying we have less than 20 years left before we overpopulate the planet since the 1960s or before, not sure why they still keep predicting such a catastrophe when the statistics really don't back it up.
Has cybersex made us too lazy for real world sex?
I read that somewhere but forget where. But maybe hosts and viewers may want to opine on the topic.
RE: Has cybersex made us too lazy for real world sex?
At least it is safe sex and no worries about STD's or surprise babies :)
RE: Has cybersex made us too lazy for real world sex?
and no cyber-woman expects u to be faithfull, no strings attached, finally men can feel FREE =))
RE: Has cybersex made us too lazy for real world sex?
women too :)) besides you dont have to cook for him :))
RE: Has cybersex made us too lazy for real world sex?
And the trillions of spermatozoa that only experienced freefall into air
RE: Has cybersex made us too lazy for real world sex?
I'm getting too lazy for cybersex .... I've put an ad up in the local shop window for a hand relief assistant to help me out while I vid.
RE: Has cybersex made us too lazy for real world sex?
That was great man. You really made laugh out loud!
RE: Has cybersex made us too lazy for real world sex?
ROFL, That would be approaching the laziness of Jabba the Hutt! But hey he did have all the cute women around him so maybe it isn't such a bad thing ;)
RE: Has cybersex made us too lazy for real world sex?
Coming here has made real sex quicker...and that's not so good. I subconsciouly think I am paying by the minute... :)
RE: Has cybersex made us too lazy for real world sex?
lol and do you find yourself saying "bye I'm going to give 5 stars" when you've finished
Comm.Chat
Why does comm.chat seem to have become the preserve of a kind of Chat Mafia? Anybody who disagrees with opinions expressed there is immediately jumped on and abused. How many members and hosts who used to enjoy it, don't go there anymore and why?
RE: Comm.Chat
Many timewasters there who never does vids because has no any credit in their cards, or because they think they are "too good" to pay for online fun with women. lol
RE: Comm.Chat
tom, I know what and whom Im talking about, I know for sure after 5 mins chat with a member he is a total timewaster or do it sometimes with some or even just one host. And one more I never pm unknown members with suggestions video, they start pm me first.
RE: Comm.Chat
and i know after 2 minutes of talking to host there all she is going to drive you crazy begging for a vid .
RE: Comm.Chat
honey comm is for those not doing video, at the time, that wanna enjoy some fun, it is not a place to sell services
RE: Comm.Chat
If they want to waste their time in comm chat, then so be it - at least they aren't wasting your time. And if they think they are too good for online fun, that isn't necessarily a bad thing. More power to them. I don't think I'm too good for online fun, and it has cost me dearly.
RE: Comm.Chat
No, I don't understand it. How can they be trying to get it for free if they are in comm chat? Do they actually ask you for a free show?
As for your other question about why do they go to comm chat if they don't want to spend money on the girls, well you answered your own question - they go there because they don't want to spend money on the girls.
As for your other question about why do they go to comm chat if they don't want to spend money on the girls, well you answered your own question - they go there because they don't want to spend money on the girls.
RE: Comm.Chat
I don't understand that theory at all. Think community chat was designed like the rest of the chat to interact with other members and hosts....not necessarily to sell services....wow kinda surprised in
your reaction. What makes it different than forum where all are welcome to chat and just express themselves.
The only issue I see is from watching chat is the environment has gotten rather hostile if you're new to the "gang" the runs it.
your reaction. What makes it different than forum where all are welcome to chat and just express themselves.
The only issue I see is from watching chat is the environment has gotten rather hostile if you're new to the "gang" the runs it.
RE: Comm.Chat
If i have spare time I come to commchat, can say hello for all, then someone pm me, ask questions, say compliments after some chat when I get boring I invite for videochat and if I hear something "not now, maybe next time", i finish chat and say good bye. So whats wrong with it?
RE: Comm.Chat
Well from what members are commenting.....many girls in comchat are doing the same thing so it gets old for them. Guys are hunters and they don't like to be chased :) He knows that you are available for video because you're online. If he wanted to video he'd do it! If they are commenting they don't like it.....I would get the clue!! Or if they turn you down.....that would be a clue. Good Luck
RE: Comm.Chat
there is one guy in the gang that always is answering to hosts yes he talks in open only but he is nice and funny and not shy i like him
RE: Comm.Chat
Some girls' English is not good enough to support any topic, answer immediately, understand all the jokes and so on
RE: Comm.Chat
Seems to be a very aggressive group that has taken it over....not a friendly place to go and chat. For some reason it seems to be a new trend to belittle others in forum and chat.
RE: Comm.Chat
Cmon was always like thisl. Just with different "mafia bosses")))))))))))
RE: Comm.Chat
Havnt been there since certain ppl have gone, and its like 2 years now:)
RE: Comm.Chat
Yep, the best people that made comm. chat fun to be have left already..... No one there make sense anymore
RE: Comm.Chat
OK, there are some great people in comm chat, both on the member and the host side. New people are always welcome to join in, unless and until they start to hassle the hosts. THEN, the gloves come off. Be respectful in there, and all is good. And you may even get to know the fantastic people in there.
Just my two cent's worth.
Just my two cent's worth.
RE: Comm.Chat
Well, 'chat mafia' is probably a bit over-dramatic. Anyway, nothin will change. I saw a chat bully boasting in commchat about the number of people he has intimidated there.
RE: Comm.Chat
more likely you saw someone boast about the people they got banned for being foul and obnoxious
RE: Comm.Chat
that wouldn't happen. being foul is one of the main things that gets you banned..............you know like calling the girls bitches and whores
RE: Comm.Chat
why isint warchant banned . if you disagree with him he will go all vendetta on you forever
RE: Comm.Chat
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh they know my name:))))
probably because i dont break the rules nor bother using foul language, you should probably try that some time
probably because i dont break the rules nor bother using foul language, you should probably try that some time
RE: Comm.Chat
appears? before you make silly comments you should probably talk to people once or twice. oh wait i suppose i turned you down for a vid
sheesh:))))))))))))))))00
sheesh:))))))))))))))))00
RE: Comm.Chat
damn you tis!!!!!!!!!!!! you gave away my host name. you sere suppose to keep that secret:P
RE: Comm.Chat
If you go there for business, you are in the wrong place. Commchat is like lifem sometimes funny, sometimes stupid, there are some hosts and members, who are annoying, but its a nice place to hang out, if WC is not there
RE: Comm.Chat
lol nick,are they the voices singing"they're coming to take me away ahhhuh...."or the ones saying"i'f you'll only give me a fiver today(vid),i'll gladly repay you on tuesday"or those saying"i think i can,i think i can,i think i can...."? :--)
RE: Comm.Chat
every guy asked you for a free vid ? im betting against it , just because one member does, doesnt mean we all do .
where will you be spending new year ?
A little early but I am thinking what to do for new year , where will everyone be on new year , anyone going somewhere nice ? any suggestions where we should all meet up and have a party ?
RE: where will you be spending new year ?
I was thinking abt Prague again, last new years eve and xmas i celebrated there, was awsome, xmas fairytale..But dunno, noone of my friends seem to be up for it or have time, money etc..We still have lots of time tho, we will see:)
RE: where will you be spending new year ?
Yes i wanna go to Finland too for xmas, been dreaming about it for years:) But if u have the chance-visit Prague at this time of the year, its really unbeliavable, the beauty of the city and the spirit of the celebration, tiny stone streets, Staramestska namesli, they cook glintwein right on the streets, its amazing to do sightseeing drinking this traditional winter drink out of paper glasses))) I wanna go baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack(((((((( But most of my friends are gng to Egypt for New Yreas Eve, i dont get it...This holiday just cant be with no snow, or at least cold weather and red noses and ears:))) Theres no way ill be celebrating this winter holiday on the beach:/
RE: where will you be spending new year ?
What is prague like around christmas and new year ? snow ? romantic , fun ? i dont know if i could stay there a whole week .... was thinking maybe egypt
RE: where will you be spending new year ?
Its very romantic, snow-been snowing 2 times only when i been there, but a bit cold, around 0C...Very romantic and beautiful place, awsome beer, smell of grilled sausages everywhere, everyone is happy:D
RE: where will you be spending new year ?
mmm sounds great. If and whenever (probably a big if) you might want to put Yosemite Valley in California on your list of Xmas or New Year's destinations. 3,000 feet of granite cliffs on both sides of you, snow on the trees, full moon makes it other worldly. No sausages however.
RE: where will you be spending new year ?
I thought of going there for new years a few years back after i had been there in the summertime . I loved the old town but it was august and packed with tourists and thought it would look great in winter and would be romantic if cold and snow around and not the same number of tourists ..... the beer and sausage would be a bonus . i find it hard to believe you dont have a boyfriend with who to spend new year
RE: where will you be spending new year ?
New Years Eve is a very popular time for ppl to go to Prague, it was crowded, lost of ppl go there to celebrate winter holidays..So dont expect it to be less crowded than in summer, probably its on the contrary:)) But hey, it doesnt ruin the fun! On the contrary- u feel the holiday spirt, everyone is happy around u, its kinda nice:)
RE: where will you be spending new year ?
Monika , the czech tourist board rang and said you got the job ))) ..... You have done a good job of convincing me to go and i was checking it out online )))
RE: where will you be spending new year ?
Greatttttttt:D:D:D Does that mean i can get a free vacations to Prague anytime?:) If it does-ill take this job))))))
RE: where will you be spending new year ?
Of course , you spend a lot of time in Prague and travel the world telling everyone how wonderful Prague is )))))) you have your own apartment looking out over the old town square ))) plenty of czech food and drink and generally have a great time )) ........ its a tough , shitty job , are you really sure you want to do it ? ))
RE: where will you be spending new year ?
i hope to spend new year and christmas with my famaly, as always. cozy and warm :)
RE: where will you be spending new year ?
I will go to Afghanistan, start in Kabul then work my way up to Baghlan. Will do some site seeing and travel, Cant wait to eat the pomegranates and grapes and spend time with the people. Oh Slovakian mountains sound so wonderful to.
RE: where will you be spending new year ?
Where do they have New Years Trees? I know of Christmas Trees :)
RE: where will you be spending new year ?
Yeah, New years eve is a major holiday here, not xmas, we hardly celebrate it actually:)))
RE: where will you be spending new year ?
Interesting....learn something new everyday :) Thanks!
Just curious thought isn't Russia mostly Catholic?
Just curious thought isn't Russia mostly Catholic?
RE: where will you be spending new year ?
Russian Orthodox , christian but there christmas day is 7 january
RE: where will you be spending new year ?
ex-commies .. that is why no religious celebration, and they still used the old calendar..
RE: where will you be spending new year ?
you can all meet at my place.the fridge is full,the barbies ready & i just got a new sound system.best news of all is i won't be there(fun guaranteed).the keys are in the letterbox & don't worry about cleaning up.by the time i get home,hopefully the stench of rotting garbage will mean the body i just buried won't be smelt.happy new year all!!! :--)