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Never has such true words been said, Charlotte communication, comunication, communication the 3 C's. and of course Trust :))

i thought the three c's were communication, crabbiness and castration

I know the four Roman emperors were Ceasar, Squeezer, Hump Her and Dump Her.

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It helps to say EXACTLY what lies you refer to. And did you have a quiet chat with hiom and listen to his opinion in the matter?

Trust can only be developed from an actual meeting.As for love, never say you love someone till you actually have met them. It's very easy to say the words "I love you" but what is it you love? can't be the person, because on the internet you can create a character, you can never know the real person until you meet in real. I knew from the very beginning of dealing of a host here that it wasn't genuine or sincere. But I just going along with it, just out of boredom more than anything. Some of the things that happened, that told me it wasn't real from her side are as follows:
- Emails that she sent, about what she thought about me were
numbered 1,2,3 etc These were sent to other people.
- Lots of chats talked about how little money she had, constantly
saying "If you loved me, you would help" "prove you love me"
- When taking breaks from webcam work, all communication
Stopped.
- Only answering her mobile, or sending sms messages during the
time she was at work. (on webcam)
- Or at first "I don't have a phone" even though you seen her using
one, and the excuse given "not my phone, it belongs to another girl
in studio, I had to phone my mother" (while with a dildo between her
legs)
- One of the best lines when asked what you remember about me
after a year of talking and a 4 week break "I have a bad memory, I
only remember your age, I think" instead of saying "your money"
- "I can't read e-mails on this computer I need to use admin" even
though 2 days previously and countless times before (and after)
she was reading e-mails from that computer and sending them.
- Talked about real meeting, always used delay tactics "I'm away that
month" or "I want to arrange your stay here as a surprise" never
gets arranged.
- Even did the no paid video, "I want you to save your money" that
lasted 3 days.
- Always over talked the feelings side of things "I love you"

So as you can see from my little list, I could add more but I'm sure you probably switched off by now lol So be careful out there, and if any or all the above seem familer, know its not real. As for me, I can afford to spend the money I do here, thats the advantage of being a Millionaire. But what concerns me are those that come here and ill afford it. I hope this has been some help to somebody here :)))

What is needed to make a good relationship?
Communcation
Understanding
Nuture
Trust
or as I like to call it C.U.N.T., without cunt a relationship is doomed to fail, so ladies if you want to make your man happy, make sure he gets plenty of cunt.
Now I'm off for a few days rest...C U Next Tuesday

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no don't laugh it off, I like it - kiss

funny thats why im laughing:P...love it!hugzzz!!!

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Don't misunderstand me, I'm not saying everyone is dishonest. I have got to know some great people on here and through internet in general, also met up with a few too. All I'm trying to say is be careful out there. There is a minority who aren't what they seem.

Keep smiling and enjoy :)

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you are gay

You're telling me that because you want to be my first male lover?

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Actually, quite an old tactic from at least the 1970s.

Did it work for you or are you still a virgin?

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that means knock-backs from a new gender.

lol ;)

Slapper

Such a high quality of hosts from these fair isles. Makes me proud to be British.

yup

yes

did it , but not easy , needs trust ,and thats hard here ..
good luck.. if u try hard anything can work,,

but so many here will try and ruin it

Umm is right, i tried to ruin his relationship by introducing his chathost gf to huge dildoes.

sure, it's easy to wait till you/I go on vacation and really have sex with a host. It's a new ballgame to try and keep the relationship going as a bf/gf after you leave.

10 months, then jealousy and stupidity as I was on my way to meet her.

bloody hell............... what happened? she gave u wrong directions ?

Yes, but it should be 'friends-only' until the real-life meeting. People are quite often very different in reality as opposed the what they are in the dark at a keyboard typing to what is essentially a fantasy figure.

I once had a pen-pal in England and we wrote the most interesting letters for many months, but when we met in reality it wasn't the same and I actually got on great with her friends, as she faded into the background..

I have had some very hot sexual textchats with hosts in cc (including you), but in reality I am a shy guy who could never be as cheeky face-to-face.

Don't get angry/jealous if you find out he is talking to other hosts as he should never challenge you for having hot chats with many members.

Until a real meeting, nothing on cc counts.

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depends, is the man a 50 year old balding fat man, trying to hook up with a sexy young lady?

not balding.... LOL

But I do think Maya (and some of her colleagues who I accidentally met) are very special. I have had hot text conversations with some of them and dropped into (non-sexual) video for a few minutes from time to time to help their star rating.

I don't think a host or member should get resentful or jealous about anything that happens pre-real life meeting. Once a meeting happens you can judge the "connection."

True, the cultural/age differences can be daunting, but it all depends on the personalities involved. Some April/September relationships can be as strong or stronger that those of the same age.

No way.

I would say you only know anything till you meet in real life. It is a good idea to meet as soon as possible. Also switch to voice chat not text chat as much as possible because that is closer to how you would interact in real life.

anything is possible,though not always probable.anything worthwhile takes effort.that's what makes achieving it worthwhile.

It is not easy, but it is possible. I fell in love with a host after having known her for about a year. I agree with those above who says that nothing really counts until you meet in person; stay friends until then, and let the past be the past (easy to say, not to do!). In our case, meeting in person for the first time this spring, we both liked each other and felt comfortable with each other. In a way, it is easier to communicate having been friends first. We will meet again in a couple of months. Being in a long distance relationship is not always easy, but it has some advantages as well. Perhaps really missing someone and wanting to be with them makes the experience even sweeter when you finally can be together. Anyway, as you've already seen, be prepared for a lot of people tell you that it is not possible. Also (assuming that you are not the host...not clear to me if you are or not), like someone else said...be prepared that if your gf continues to work there will be some very sick, envious people trying to ruin your happiness. Sad, unfortunately true. If you both are committed, you will overcome this. Best of luck to you both!

Hehehe...just read Sexyseduce's post again...I think it is fair to assume that she is a host, not a viewer. First, the name should have given me a solid hint, second...she signed the post with a kiss...doubt that a viewer would ever do this! Some of the other replies threw me off when they were adressing her as if she were a viewer. Well, sexyseduce, the answer was to both of you anyway! ;)

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I have had many real meetings. Most were as "friends only" with no expectation on my part for furthering the relationship. However, I have always been open to the possibility.

There have been several that I took tentative steps with, but it would have only been a one-night stand. I did fall deeply in love with one one and though we are now apart I still have my hopes to be with her.

met many here , chatted without any plans to meet,
about 1 - 2 years after first chats ..then traveled and told them i might be there ,,, would u meet me if i ask,, . many said yes a few said no.

when i traveled , met with 4 on 1 trip ,
location 1 was met at airport by friend, ( we are still friends now tho she is married with kids now) she introduced me to 4 other girls 3 i knew as hosts , all knew me from chats .. 1 girl , a host i did not expect to be so good with spent most time with me all paid 50:50 so was just 4 the fun of it..

location2 called 3 girls all washing their hair lol. but 1 met me ,,,
had 3 great days , realy hit it off, ended up having realionship for 18 months , stilll good friends now ..

location3 . met 2 hosts , had great fun. dancin and stuff, spent 5 days ,, really wild time , really nice girls .. 1 was a really great dancer.. was sorry to leave ,, still keep in touch ,, 3 i met have now visited UK and stayed , and i showed them about .. - only 2 are still at CC ,,

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remind me to tell u these when ur jugs are hanging down to ur knees and u keep trippin over ur prolapsed vagina

have fun...hugs!

im sick of umbrella tho

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any host that trys to play background music needs to be impalied on her own dildo. It always comes off like a low budget porno movie

TS? Yikes!!

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"Winnie the Booh?" No such item listed.

Sorry; not proofreading. As Lansing pointed out, it's Winnie the Pooh.

It is "Winnie the Pooh Neck Massager Walt Disney" and it is halarious. I think I will bid on it and send it to my favorite host. She will get a kick out of it. LOL

Thanks for the link, MasterTech.

Hun, always expecting something in return is a fruitless venture. Just be glad you did send them a note, and, be glad you recived 5% return on your investment. Heck, I would take 5% anyday.

I have given people many presents in my time without expecting anything in return. But, that is the real world. This is virtual where the press of a key deletes all troubles.

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You get a 10% return rate??!!??!! See how much it works?

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Yes, it's called marketing. In this case you'd add: "I hope we can spend more time together the next time you come to my video."

What are you going to do after the vid anyway, play online poker? Waste an hour with "inside talk" in comm chat?

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Do you REALLY believe one toothpaste makes your smile sexier? They \"lie\" to you. It\'s called marketing.

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Charlotte's kinda got the right idea here. Complain about being harassed in comchat but not happy if after u've spent ur money u don't get some kind of follow up service. Go in, toss off, sleep. Life's a breeze.

The truth emerges!

Don't be shy. Let your true emotions surface.

i couldn't agree with you more. and thats why i left your video abruptly today i notice you're looking around acting bored. i know how to fix that. i needed to MOVE ON and try to be a little less boring with the NEXT GIRL!!

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This could get ugly....

um no you cannot retract Miss 5 star cc goddess. (k) :)

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Every day seems to be the day you woke up on the wrong side of the bed. Where is in the heck is your sense of humour? Oh, that's right, you don't have time for one.

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It's called marketing and building a list of regulars.

Of course, its intention is for those who think their traffic isn't busy enough. Some girls are "stars" and don't need the business if their income is satisfactory.

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Give me a free video and I will send you a candygram.

Aha, The old "Land Shark" ploy. Don't open the door ucallmebaby,,, It's a trick...

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Some marketers would call a 5% feedback rate to be perfectly within acceptable limits. It's not necessarily supposed to be fun, it's work. It's why you make a few variations on a form letter and "cut & paste" it into a ccMail.

...and then wait for the posts complaining about spam mail etc.
what u see is what u get...if u make a deal with a host and as part of that deal she sends u a mail saying "baby ur the greatest" that's up to you. If not then stop whining and put ur dick away

"Thanks and come again" soon after a visit is not spam. Spam is message after message unconnected to an event.

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I'm not the businesswoman who often complains of lack of members and lower earnings. If you have enough (or too many) viewers this whole idea is NOT for you.

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looks like an opertunity here ..

if so many dont do this ,,

and all are looking to diferentiate from " the crowd" then be different ,,,

I am always pleased to get a mail... isnt anyone ...

if its not just a come to see me ..

but something relevent to our chat ..

i had 3 today .. its my sons birthday , and i had 4 IM - so seems some are doing the normal friendly comunication.

but very few..

will i spend more time with them ..

yes 4 sure i will..

( though now i have met 2 so we are friends )

Baby come in my chat. I make love with you. You my special man.

Sure. Would work on me EVERY time! :D

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Who said that the host had to write an email full of bullshit and lies to the member? If you are too lazy to do it, fine... but there is no need to try to put an evil spin on it and demonize the whole thing to try to back yourself up and act like you are doing it in the best interest of the members here. That's the lie here. The truth is most hosts could easily write a short email to a member after video to thank them... they don't have to fill it with bullshit and insincere compliments, just personalize it.... mention something from their chat together that she enjoyed or found interesting or whatever. It's not difficult for christ's sake. The last thing you want to do after typing all day is type more? well welcome to the real world. millions of people leave their jobs every day, only to go home and do more work, research, reports... whatever... to stay on top of their jobs and keep advancing in their careers. they are the ones that reach the top. the ones that go home and sit on their asses or whine about having to do the extra when they are not on the time clock are the ones that find themselves on the employment lines these days. You are correct that even if you do not send an email that members will still return to video chat... the question is, will it be your video chat? are you so rich that you can afford to have your viewers returning to other hosts instead of you?

i think the bigger underlying problem here is that so many of the younger generation have become so reliant upon and addicted to the instant gratification of text messaging, instant messaging and cell phones that they have acquired the attention span of a knat. they can't even shit without calling or texting their best friend to tell them all about it. but suddenly having to sit still for a whole 5 minutes to type a letter, even to their mother, becomes an unbearable torture. imagine how they would suffer if they actually had to pick up a pen and hand write a letter. OMG the inhumanity of it all! i'd say it's laughable, but in truth it is just sad.

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wrong again cupcake... and on so many counts. it is you who made the big fuss about it and all your blah blah about tricking people. for all the times i heard you tooting your own horn in here about being so "mature" you still cannot grasp simple concepts that grown ups should be able to. instead you keep returning over and over again to the same bullshit point about.... decieving and tricking people, insincerity, false compliments. i guess it shows where you are coming from personally. just because you may be incapable of saying a kind word to a member without it being a pack of lies and bunch of bullshit doesn't mean other hosts are. none of the members who said they would like to recieve thank you ccmails from hosts said they wanted to be lied to or recieve insincere compliments... you are the one that kept coming back and posting about lies and trying to convince everyone over and over again that your opinion is the only right one. seems you were pointing your finger at the wrong person when you said i am unable to accept other peoples point of view.

as for me not being able to accept other points of view, that is just more of your bullshit. i have no problem entertaining other peoples opinions, but if i think it is bullshit i also have no problem calling them on it... as i did with you and the way you repeatedly tried to demonize a simple thank you note.

and lastly about this grand business you supposedly had built from the ground up, it is probably more of a grand exageration than anything else. i do not believe you possess the maturity, patience, or the people skills to achieve such a task.

Would have been better if you'd put "Sugar Tits" in place of "Cup Cake" :)

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they want the thank you notes so their fragile egos feel like they are being stroked,so they feel special,imo.

I have to disagree with cap'n. The majority of the posters requesting a thank you note either did not stipulate that it had to be sincere (just that they wanted one) and most of the remaining ones stated that it would be a good marketing tactic (again implying that it did not necessarily have to be sincere). Surely a thank you note written to say thank you and mention something from the chat is just as bad as a note filled with "bullshit" if that note is not written with any real feeling but only because the member expects or wants it.

you're not a man.

WHO TOLD YOU!!?!?

well said & well taken.at least you have a sense of humor

I agree haha.I'm actually starting to warm towards Ted

During my current sexual turmoil, the receipt of your warm parts could be a good thing :)

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how can i help you if you dont post your real name?...CC mail me..

CC mail me if you like.
And see!
You have two people who care! :)

would somebody care abt me too?:)

sure Cherry but it would have to be strictly platonic...no sexysex or anything

Having visited you a number of times, I am surprised to hear you think no one cares about you. I happen to think you are very kind and interesting, not to mention you have some great assets. :)

You are correct. You are worthless and weak. Oh well.

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You have some of the best archive photos I have seen on this or any other site, but after seeing you quote passages from the bible like some far right wing wacko turns me right off.

did you look up the refence? are you afraid of other points of view?

I don't think biblethumping has a place on a porn site.

a mention is a thump??

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You would be right, if that is what she was doing.
But that is not the case here.
Take it easy.
Don't over react!

sorry ur not ok origami.

regards
syl

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USE CAPS!!!!!!!!!

when you find what you are looking for,& you will,it will make it all the more precious.nobody is ever totally alone though they may not realise it.open your heart,let the sunshine in.you will be surprised what grows.

I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

sheeep

but i like sheep. got my velcro gloves ready.

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yep got them ,, but im not welsh, u know that lol

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Well it depends on how many of us there are

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got the boots, kilt (so they don't hear the zip) and a splash of odour sheep dip ;-) we salt 'em you eat 'em

isnt it just easier to slip something in their drink while they are not looking?

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:P

name: cato
age: 21
from: japan
meeting place: how about at Chizo Plaza Hotel -room 504

why on the 5th floor--i dont like heights

You used to like them chaser;) esp when the elevator wasn`t working :D

yeah--i must admit CK i did--thanks and it is so glad to see you back my friend

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what about that beach,we ..the stars,the sounds of the ocean,the music of life and joy..no need names ,not informations about identity because we will recognize eachother anyway(love have own language-when ull find it u will just know!!!!)still u might write that song and ill try to sing it for u:):):)kisses

she's on vacation, will be back in sept

lucky men there than ;)

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when she will return? did she go to someone?

to her bf who lives there

ablond4you, i would have to side with Lansing on this one. if you send thank you notes and such to your viewers, good for you, but i would say you are in the minority of hosts that do this. i can tell you honestly, as a member for several years here, that i have recieved far more ccmails from hosts that i have never met or visited before asking me to come to their rooms and meet them, than i ever have from the hosts i know... especially the ones i know very well. the biggest excuses are "oh i am so busy, i never have free time" or " i thought i would say when we talked instead", but the real truth is they really don't want to bother doing it cuz ur not important enough to them to take a couple minutes out of their day to write you a short note. that's it in a nutshell.

Good retort.

Hun:

I have yet to receive a thank you note for the visit and visits (take note of the singular and plural) I have made to many a chat host. Not one. (Oh, well, I am sorry, there was one but I practically had to beg for it.)

The truth of the matter is, and captain caveman hit the nail on this, is there are basically two kind of hosts: the long term know how to market; and, the short term don't know how to market. Market meaning using marketing techniques - not going to an outdoor super store. I lot of the out of country hosts would think the latter rather than the former and use it to make a silly and stupid remark. (ok, hosts, hit me with both barrels. lol)

No host (present company excluded though I have never visited you) will take the time to answer an email from a viewer. Perhaps there are some as you eluded to; but if they do, then the Gods Must Be Crazy. Imagine a message from a host fell into my inbox like a coke bottle from the sky. What shall I do with it? Should I walk around the world to give it back or find the source? This is what probably goes on in the mind of most host's' and it probably scares them (or not).

Now, I am not taking sides...vulgarity and rudeness abounds on both sides of the virtual fence. But, when a good person (viewer) does visit, that person should receive, at the minimum, a thank you note for the money he (or she) has spent watching the host fake an orgasim. I am aware that may sound deragatory, but in all actuality it does have a basis.

It is good you are taking care of your viewership; but, the majority?...they do not.

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that you expect a thank you note from everybody you purchase from in life both goods & services.

That is a poor and silly analogy. I am sure you can think of something with more bite to it.

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Totally. This false "come back baby - I love the time with you" stuff is bullshit. Sure, I'd like it if a host sent me that, but only if it was sincere - i.e. they MEAN it.

Fuck this American idea of "service". It's all false smiles and bullshit. I want someone to serve me what I pay for, not give me a complimentary fucking rim job. If anyone really needs one of these letters, write it your fucking selves as it will be no less genuine!!!!

Thanks for reading :)

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of course you would think that because you don't.so why is this service any different.only because you want the thank you note to stroke your damaged ego.begging for platitudes is sooooo pitiful.

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The song says: "birth, school, work, death." It's life, with some love mixed in if you are lucky.

Kisses to you from the man you hate.

I believe to fate but we can change it and our lives ourselves. All ppl - bad or nice - have their troubles and moments of happiness. But as we know all good things come to an end - even human's life
Best wishes to all )))

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i say share life while you can,, not just only with a love one, but all, and when death comes we will be together again, but as long as we are here--smile and stay cool

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didn't i read that on a hallmark card?

Here is my deep thougth for today: "I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."

It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.

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At that price you may have to wait a while before you meet many members. Or if you really want to meet people lower your price to reasonable levels and let the party begin.

It`s the IA category, d`oh!

she and Bela70 got married, they are in boy-girl couple catgeory giving relationship advice.

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Dude... ALL my original chatfriends have moved on in life, much to my chagrin.

She has her reasons
other priorities , and im sure the nasty messages here would not encourage her here ,,

she is till saying hi to a few friends , but is " away"

she having health troubles, for more info i suggest you to write her an e-mail

thanks to gravity she is semi retired.

yeah i heard they get tucked into her waistband.

you are probably two boys in their 50's doing the only thing you are capable of. blowing it out your asses

anything is probable, but in this case you are wrong

:(

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it matters not to whom he refers. he is saying goodbye to a friend and in doing so here, is expressing his pain and sharing his grief

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:((( missing him

yes me too

yes he will be missed

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confused

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u dont have a clue what u r on about gort

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it's very sad.... suicide is never the answer:(

what the hell is this all about?

He was often bigger than life. Funny, intelligent, forceful but often insecure and just a little boy. Remember for every him there is a her. It is a story that could be told a hundred times a year here. Hopes, dreams, promises made and broken. It is the price to pay when you try to make fantasy real. Just pray you meet someone like him outside of CC. But he will be missed and he is still loved. Who is he? Every member who broke the heart of a host. But it could just as easily be a female. A host who broke the heart of a member. Remember the one truth here is that nothing is true. Follow that advice and you will do fine on CC.

best obituary yet - I knew him well enough to be sure he would agree with you

Well spoken.

you know what ppl? ( the ignorant ones )
save your comments ( the stupid ones ) for yourselves
if you dont know about something, keep your mouth shut, its the right thing to do, since everything that comes out of your mouth just alter things! suicide, fair , not fair, stop judging,better have a moment of silence .






You will always be in our hearts :-(

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Why? Where? When?

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did i know this person? it would be nice to know who and what the hell all you people are talking about. if i knew this person,i'd like to know about it so i can comment properly.if someone would be so kind to drop me a cc mail to explain this,i'd really appreciate it.thanks.

u have been told who it is

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I am not him and do not know what you are talking about this time but as far as I am concerned you are not a nice person and you probably got no worse than you deserve.

But why did he have to lie? What did he say he loved me. What did he have to talk about a life together? A home? A child? Growing old? Sure I told him I didn't do nudity in my other one to one videos and when he found out I did double penetration with a coke bottle and a zuchinni for everyone for .55 cents a minute he was upset. But hey it is my job. He lied to me too. He said he had no trouble with me working here. That was a lie too. God I love him and I miss him.

shut up and have some respect

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this about the dp is funny :))
i still didn't get what is this thread all about.
Somebody is taking the pi$$ out of people to see how many will get involved?!

for making one of the dumbest posts ever

wow ty
I have an award for the dumbest post ever.

it still is behind your judgemental post

Ah, I knew him well. It will be a sad day when we think of him again.

Godspeed to you in the afterlife. May your paintings become real.

(sniff) (sniff) (honk) (sniff) (sniff)

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exactly why pete is right in chat host forum thread below.

If you are posting under her name that is pretty lame. Look everyone wants to see the lady starkers and some may have but not the common rabble, show me your hooters kind of member. Quick 5 minute video. In and out. Pass the kleenex. Not that type of girl. Does she get rich subtley making members hope they might get a peak at the twin peaks? Sure. That is business. Does she really. She says no and I suspect that is 99.9% correct. So dream about being the 0.01 luck percent. Trying to ruin her reputation won't work. Besides she and most of the members here are laughing at your pathetic ass.

hey its much more than 1 % im sure more like 40 % topless anyways..

still playing silly games , but if it works she will do it ,,

if she can make it seem u r special to see them then lol , she did her job well..

"lol" either-get some balls to sign with yr real name or stop pickin on me, get a life and move on. Im so tired of ur lame comments.

What you can expect from my show

Sexy smile and shining eyes) I don't know myself, my mood changes like crazy, so come in and we will c

And ur point is?

No point, just copied and pasted what you state on your profile page. Just facts, no opinions.

is no point,it was a waste of time & effort.

work in the Russian studio.. All girls are well formed, have decent family, and the normal provided parents.. And if they speak you such nonsense then you have compelled them to tell to you it.. Because many members love whores.. Here they also show what whores they, but actually it to easier imagination... And about hosts-pimps
its a delirium...

In the town I live there are no murderers. Therefore, there must be no murders in any towns.

Next please....

the gross impudence of some people continues to astound & amaze.

It is my understanding that many many studio bosses are women. That makes sense. They deal with women better and women are more comfortable working without a horny guy hanging around. There are enough horny members as there is.

Dude, because some girls say they will meet you off CC doesn't make them whores. And if they are professional escorts it is fairly common for them to have drivers/bodyguards and a manager to take care of the payoffs, etc..

Something I've noticed reading through the forums is that someone says something and people jump to conclusions about why that person says it.

Fact 1: I know that not all girls (probably very few) on CC work as prostitutes
Fact 2: I know that studios aren't all run by pimps
Fact 3: I don't think the girls are prostitutes just because they told me that in some kind of fantasy chat
Fact 4: I know a number of hosts outside of CC via a few close contacts.
Fact 5: I have recently learned for a fact that at least two studios in Russia (not being specific deliberately) where women work on cam sites are run by men who also pimp girls - not necessarily the hosts who work for them.
Fact 6: None of the above facts make it the case that the girls here are prostitutes or that no studios are run by women.
Fact 7: I asked the question to see if anyone knew how common this was.

Ok, you can all move on now, there's nothing to see here.....

fact 9 you want unsubstansiated gossip so you can come to an unhealthy conclusion
fact 10 you should find more important issues that need your sleuthing skills
fact 11 i can't count higher than 13
fact 12 i wish i hadn't started this post
fact 13 i don't know what comes next

Fact xx: When I was talking about people jumping to conclusions, your posts here were the first that came to mind. Uncanny that you then posted in this discussion!

Discussion? I don't see any discussion, only some guy who says [gasp] there are pimps in Russia.

Pimps exist. What's your point?

What's yours?

why u r so sure? and who are they prostitutes or pimps? i work in russian adult industry more then 4 years and i know manygirls and boys,,,some of them ready to fuck for money BUT i saw only few such hosts AND they wouold do that even outside of webcam industry!
it is VERY insulting coz russians work in webcam mostly bexause they cant get a good job here and its a only one way to earn good money! We are not an angels and we have a prostitutes and pimps and drugusers in our counrty BUT its a common thing for every contry! That girls who lives in small towns got no good job abd possible problems with rent of habitation - they work as prostitutes when thay come in big cities far from home . AND last thing : if girl shows pussy in front of cam it doesnt mean that she would show it to u for real or would let u fuck her! YES many says "yeah come here i will meet u" BUT actually they wouldnt meet u !! Thay just keeping the conversation NOTHING MORE!!!!!

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Yoour initial post was not phrased well. You asked how many studio hosts are also pimps. Not how many hosts work in stuidios where the owner/manager is also a pimp, which judging from your post above is what you seem to have meant.

Thankyou. Yes that's what I meant.

This question leaves me with a question of my own.

Is someone writing their thesis on "The ration of pimps within the cam community as a whole and the corresponding economic impact of such"? Or perhaps, compiling data in order to better define the demographiics of the sector. I must be close, coz if I'm not, what possible benefit would anyone possibly expect to derive from asking this question in the form it was written?

Something like that....

Don't forget the vast majority of the hosts here are college students. They are kids for gods sake. They would no more do this nude sexual stuff in real life outside of their personal relationships than girls in the US would (Girls Gone Wild is an exception). This is a sex site and money drives these women. But only a handful would be willing to take it to a real level. Most of these kids are kids. Cut them some slack.

If I had said that girls who work for pimp studio hosts must also be prostitutes, I would understand why you were saying what you are. I didn't, so I don't

U have a wrong opinion abt Russia Pete!!! Its a eurpoean country!! we have no bears walking around the city and we have a really high level of life here...Ask that memeber who been in Russia!!

Everywhere has pimps...I didn't say it was exclusive to Russia.

Anyway, if life is so great in Russia, tell me why girls are taking off their clothes on here for what amounts to $0.10 a minute (after CC and the studio take their part).

I went to Russia. Apart from the busy tourist places and the rich city centres, it was quite run down and miserable. Full of poverty and desperation.

its easy to answer: 1) i can work during nights
2) my earnings after studio takes their part s 0.6$ per min
3) its a last week when i work in studio then i ll be at home
4) Its an interesing job..i having fun here..its a cool job..if someone thinks that i am just a pussy - i dont care..i have a high education and i can get another job but i like this one

Thanks for explaining your personal circumstances. Obviously that applies to all girls that work in Russia! :)

I have gotten to meet many rus women here and I must say on the whole I am highly impressed. We will never meet but most of them are very patriotic and proud of their nation. Just because they appear on cc does not mean they are like that in real life as you said and when you talk to them as normal humans do you find they are just normal people with good and bad things happening in their lives.

Its a job and an act........no more no less..............

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now back to work or i send you to a gulag

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no laughing! get back in 121 and make those decadent Westerners lose their strength. We will weaken the West thru semen depletion!!! hhaaaaahhhehhahheehehehahahahooohhohooo

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You obviously didn't actually read what I said!

You already admitted that your OP was not phrased clearly and then you dog someone for whom English is their second or third or fourth language?

Pete, while I have disagreed with you in the past and in some ways think the question was phrased in such a way as to incite some, I do think you are catching some rather strong reactionary feedback from the original post. It seems a concensus consideres your question implys Russia has a rather inordinate amount of "bad girls". I don't see where you said that, nor do I see where you implied it. As I read the post, the question seems to be one of basic curiosity. However, rebutting attacks on your post with sharp barbs aimed at the shorthcomings (which every society has) of Russian society, probably didn't help your case. So, while I agree the question was unfairly prosecuted , I would also have to say; "Bad idea", to the rebuttals.

Thanks for a well considered impartial reply.

Just to clarify things, I don't wish to make out that Russia is an awful country from top to bottom and never wanted a debate about the quality of life in Eastern Europe! Also, what I'm not saying is that girls who work in studios are prostitutes. Neither am I saying that there's more bad girls in Russia. Whoever has got this idea, understand I am not saying that. Thank you!

The rephrase your question so as to be clear to those for whom English is their third or fourth language.

In the case of the Russians, some of them NEVER formally studied English and their self-education is as the result of listening pop music, watching the ocassional movie and their chatt here in cc. Keep that in mind as youi seek clarity.

I wouldn't go on a Russian language forum with poor Russian skills and then go on a tirade based on what I thought someone might have said.

But thank you. Next time I will be more understanding.

Then I guess you should stay off this English language forum, as you have admitted your initial post was unclear.

No, I merely thanked someone for making it more clear. The inital query was perfectly clear. What caused the arguments is people making assumptions about what I supposedly think or intended to imply!

It seems there are a lot of reactionary hosts here who are quite confused and have to forcibly justify what they do - probably for themselves. Add to this a bunch of men (with maybe one or two exceptions) who get kicks out of trying to prove their supposed intellectual superiority via pedantry and making out they are some kind of oracle.

As the saying goes, arguing on the internet is like the special olympics: even if you win, you're still retarded. For this reason I'm going and I won't be back.

For the sanity of any forum users, I would also like to ask the CC staff to consider wiping this pointless discussion from the forum.

And your point, other than to join a conversation at the very end, without personally having had any prior connection to the dailogue, in order to bash a poster who has made a reasonable attempt to clarify his original message, is?

I asked a host what her father did for a living - she said he was a pimp!

Either it a silly woman.. Or it says lies or its daddy the full fool if its family knows about such dirty kind of earnings! this story s bullshit!!!!

bingo, you nailed it on the head buddy
but others will say you aren't missing anything special...I say fine, then open it up for all,

Confused, I cannot say that I know the answer for sure, I can only speculate.Consider the following: This site is a business, with paying viewers being the customers. A small percentage of these viewers are .....in lack of a better word....let me call them.....unpleasant. The host forum, I believe, is among other things, a way for hosts to communicate about viewers who are "difficult" (read:psycho). In other words the host forum may function kind of like a "safety valve"....a place for hosts to vent and express concerns about viewers who are "a few french fries short of a happy meal". If you do accept the premise that there are indeed sick and demented individuals out there, then it would make sense why cc would limit access to this forum. I think it is a good thing that they do....just my two cents worth.

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Well, MissCBT, I am glad I made you giggle. :)... Other american idioms covering the same topic are:"...did not exactly invent the gun powder," "...not the sharpest tool in the shed" and "...a few cards short of a full deck." Usually, these expressions refer to someone who is not very smart, they're lacking in basic intelligence, i.e. they are "stupid." Hey, we are all stupid sometimes.... However, in my reply, I was using the term to refer to people who are emotionally, socially and psychologically deficient... In other words, what most people (even on this board!) would refer to as "whack jobs." :P







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I kind of like "a brick shy of a loaf".

I think you meant "load".

No, I mean "loaf". A loaf of bricks is a defined amount -- like a peck of pickled peppers.

a sandwich short of a picnic.

Two waves short of a shipwreck

"a few lights burnt out in the ol' marquee"

Not firing on all cylinders

then why is the viewer "only" forum available to chathosts? why can't we have the same privacy to let other viewers know about scamming hosts or hosts that don't keep their word?

Hmm... I think "scamming hosts" only represent a danger to your wallet, not you physical safety or your life. That is, IF you are stupid enough to fall for a scam. Viewers prodding for hosts' address, exact location and so and so forth represents a more serious danger, in my humble opinion. The hosts ought to have a way to communicate about potentially dangerous viewers without viewers having visibilility into that. If you disagree with this, let me ask you:" Did you ever feel afraid of or threatened by a host?" Now ask the hosts the other way around...

to use a similar phrase as yours. a host must be a few cans short of a six pack if they give their address to a person they only know from what they have told them.

one difference is that most hosts are young & new to the neighbourhood. while most.members have been round the block a few times

Allowing hosts to read the viewers forum gives them a chance to understand viewers complaints and likes which may help hosts do better shows. This is good for both the site and members. Having all members see hosts complaints about them is not really helpful to members. Also the hosts forum is where hosts can complain about problems with CC. Understandably CC would prefer these not to be too public.

I think you put it better than I did, friend!

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It's like the waitresses at the restaurant/bar who can overhear the conversation of the customers even if they aren't talking to them.

It's like the Employees Break Room. Customers not allowed.

Do the customers in your company come to the lunch/break room, open the fridge, look around and then relax in yoiur chairs?

Didn't think so.

are you related to the poster above?

Yes that's me!

Go to the nearest college campuses and recruit a half dozen or so cute girls and open a studio. Then you can find out what it's all about.

Most western girls have their own computers and can set up their own accounts. Don't know of any studios here!

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Own computers AND broadband internet? Pretty rare from what I can gather.

Then you haven't been to many major East European cities. Your lack of knowledge is showong.

I do know that broadband interent in even the biggest Russian cities is a lot more expensive than it is in the west. That's unless there have been huge price reductions in the last year or so.

Do you travel to Eastern European countries to check the availablilty and cost of broadband? Oh how I wish I had your life! :o)

Lots of girls who live alone work in studios because the cost of getting a computer and broadband internet is initially too high.

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I would guess that St Petersburg and Moscow are a lot cheaper. Certainly if what you say is true, the price has come down a lot in the last couple of years. How do the prices compare in the other cities where girls who work here come from?

If you read carefully, it wasn't me that brought up the term "Eastern European hosts". I'm European so I am aware that Europe is made up of different countries! :-)

"Certainly if what you say is true, the price has come down a lot in the last couple of years."

double duh . . .

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You're Romanian I'm guessing

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Isn't it wrong because you're not from Romania?

"I would guess that..."

"...I'm guessing"

The stupid boy guesses a lot to be speaking so authoritatively.

What's the matter Petey? Read her message again. It's quite clear to me.

But pointless. I was being sarcastic. My apologies.

highest speed internet cost 50 $ per month in Saint Petersburg..Not too expencive how do u think?:D

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They think that business is slow, they think they don't make enough money, they ask each other about which bank is better to use, they talk about rude viewers or sometimes those they are developing afection for.

It's the "girls' room", leave them alone. Nothing to see. Move along.

Sure, just let us whine in the viewers fourm - the "men's room" without them seeing us :)

No, it's more like the Employee Break Room.

Then lets have a customer lounge where the salepeople don't hang around the customers eavesdropping.

If you don't like the lack of privacy, go away. The only privacy you get is anonymity.

If you really want to know what is in hosts forum sign up as a host. It is not difficult. Even I'm Shy has managed it :-) (I am just joking Wayne)

grow up child.it is their sanctuary away from us freaks,weirdos,deviants etc.cant you let them have some solitude & solace.

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Deviants?!? Who's doing the double anal penitration? Her or me?

for sure the one who asks & gets voyeuristic pleasure from it is a deviant.

Register as a host,, and read all you like.. :D

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and no host should give out more than one free vid until every host has given one 1st.

I just figured out that in order to make any sense of this post, I had to click on the little "_" next to Gortensia's orginal post...this is how you will be able to read the article she was referring to.

Hey, this guy seems like a very cool guy. I've got to say this...he appears to be a better man than I am!

On the other hand, I do believe in practicing compassion and doing at least SOMETHING good for someone even if it appears that they will not be able pay you back in any way, shape or form.

Some people are just more conscious of other people's suffering than others....more compassionate, if you'd like, than the rest of us.They are, in Biblical terms, "the salt of the earth"... no matter what their religion is. To me, as a definite "Non-Christian", this represents true Christianity. Ghandi is supposed to have said the following:

"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ."

This is something that I try to keep in mind every day, and even though I might not be ready to give my kidney to a non-relative...I do believe in the principle of being a giving person.

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And even then, perhaps you are not even completely selfless...you'll usually find some deeply hidden personal motive if you dig deep enough! So, on that note, I would agree with your nan. On the other hand, if you were a selfless nut (which I am certainly not), isn't it just possible that you would use the media to let other people follow the example? Mother Theresa would be an example of this, I think....Anyway, interesting article, but perhaps this board is not the place for this kind of discussion? :P

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Yes, you are right, some people study, and learn. I am glad you posted the article. Made me think, too! ;)

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