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Welcome back

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Unusual rainy season... but it can be refreshing! Good luck and use your talents to let guys' "flower" grow fast and proudly!

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or do a demographic before the next question & answer period. ;p.
Simple question... is business good or is business not good. Let me help you.
The sex business is always good. A horny toad will spend his last dollar not on food, but on a woman and, therefore, the answer to the question...yeah, business is booming! (even if she looks like a skank!). ;p

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for hosts only?

Good
site.

no host will ever admit, business is down, it will affect pricing.
they all say, its all wonderful.
Trust me, i know, it sucks for them right now.

not true, over time the hosts have oftened chattered about business being down at times

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depends on what time your are on line. american guys take 6/8 hrs longer to get horny:)

i have to admit that i am indeed worried.I have never had problems with the lack of members (i remember the times when i used to have 3-4 guys in vid at the same time)but now it sucks.For me it started going slow in december and it got worse and worse.If the recession lasts for 2 yrs i am fucked:).

I have noticed there are far more hosts online at any given time of day. I also noticed that prices have risen about 20-25% overall. The number of sub-$1.00 hosts is much lower than a year ago. The ones that remain seem to be in video much of their time online. I also notice a lot of new very expensive hosts. Not sure who goes to see a girl at $4.00 a minute especially in non-adult categories but logic says if they weren't making any money they would not be here. Goes back to the old argument does a host want to work 10 minutes an hour for 3 bucks a minute or 60 minutes an hour at .50 cents an hour.

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all good 4 me . never had more clients than now but most boys that visit me from uk . americans only come to me very quick and leave without good bye... no manners i guess in usa

Ouch))

On behalf of all Americans I offer my humble apologies.

Your powers of deductive reasoning are quite remarkable.

Wow you really know how to drum up business. You must be making so much on those Brits you can't be bothered with us Yanks. Duly noted.

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Maybe I can get in on a "piece of the action"...looool!!!

Ori always dresses the part all credit due. its so boring when photos show exciting lingerie iand host is waiting in old shorts:(

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hmmm, well ... I may be way off base here but I think the point he is trying to make is that looking at the profile pics of some of the chicks on here one could kinda get the idea that they were fucking hot but then reality steps in a kicks you in the nads once you get them into video and find that the semi-decent chick you were expecting has magically transformed into some partially-hideous skank. So either these chicks are naturally hot and choose to skank themselves up for video, or they have damn good makeup artists for the pics ... but I may be wrong, it has been known to happen sometimes, not this century but there is always a first time.

this ain't rocket science. It's easy to be skanked out, but natural beauty is another story and there are a few here .

Aye there Eric... and I would like to add beauty is what you make of it and a lot of what you are accustomed to is not what reality is all about. Better stop chasing an impossible dream and love beauty of the self not of the selfishness.

They seemed to have rearranged their site but the Campaign for Real Beauty has an entertaining video called "Dove Evolution" which is available via a popular website for watching videos on which rhymes with YouLube. Just put that string in and search for it. Apparently I am not allowed to make direct links these days.



The Campaign for real beauty is still going strong and more people should realise their is such a gulf between media, magazines, TV and film and REAL LIFE (tm) our perceptions of what is really 'beautiful' is biased.



And please visit the Campaign for Real Beauty's website.

http://www.campaignforrealbeauty.com/

Isn't it about time you accepted people for who they are not what they look like?

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Thank you for the link, TNT :)
I think it is a really global problem in perception of a real beauty among the humans. And the question here is not only to a women how they feel with their natural appearance but also to a men, how far they follow those standards of "ideal" woman and how much they pay attention to it. It is not a secret that any woman wants to be beautiful outside because of a man who chooses her among the others according to her shapes, weight, height, hair, etc. which standards he has taken from the magazines, podiums and movies very often. Lets suppose that there were only a women on the earth. I bet they would be happy with any kind of their appearance :) So, the main reason why they're so concerned about their bodies is a man of course. The same is vice versa in the attitude of a women to a men's appearance.
The bottom line is...We cannot totally change these things but we all can think at least, what is more important for us, to be and to have a cold beautiful doll, or to be and to have a real, warm and responsive person whose inner beauty can take the shine out of any wished on standards of a body. I know it is a bit strange to talk it on the site like this one, but lets remember that we all have our real lives apart of our computers.

Quite so LG :) And something in what you said reminds me of a funny quote by a well known actor.

"According to a new survey, women say they feel more comfortable undressing in front of men than they do undressing in front of other women. They say that women are too judgemental, where, of course, men are just grateful."

Robert De Niro.

Well I like it hehe ;)

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Yeah, funny and partly true IF to forget how many men are still trying another beautiful woman's body, but never finding the *perfect* one, so they cannot stop their tryings...lol. But that is for another thread :)

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self-promoting by being in the forum. :)

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woah ... three clichés in not even three full lines ... was that intentional?

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so true, some wear same clothes every night, i should know, he he.

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I think some of the personal profile pictures here are amazingly well done. Very well posed, lighted and professionally taken. When I ask some of the girls say they do it themselves, some have the studio boss, other hosts or friends take them and I am sure a few have their nonexistent bf or husband take them. All in all I am very impressed. Some time and effort go into to many. Some. Not so much. Some are taken so far away it is hard to make out any detail, some insist on hiding their faces (generally that is a good idea), others are just not flattering and you wonder what is the host thinking? I like pictures taken outside of a studio at a beach, or on vacation, or just standing around in normal settings. For me it casts the host as a regular girl and that helps me relate to her and understand a bit about her personality.

As for how they look in video. Look you sit your ass in front of a computer in the dead of night after a day of school and see how you look. Sure they look tired, some the hair is a bit beat and the makeup and attitude is fading but a beautiful girl is a beautiful girl regardless. Maybe that is the demarcation point. A truly beautiful girl will look beautiful regardless...less beautfiul their looks suffer a bit with stress.

All in all I admire the hosts here. Most do a good job. I am more concerned about bad attitudes than less than picture perfect looks.

Agree in detail.

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get an apartment buy computers internet connection then find the girls...kinda simple whe u think about it aint it

you could always hire the russian girls that some other fools have paid to import to the states and have subsequently dumped or been dumped by them for some mysterious reason ;))

Ahhhh yes, the "Beautiful Russian Brides" scam. Lol! Have I got a deal for you :)

not just the 'bride' scam...the western union help me scam...the meet me for sex/money scam...my family member sick/money scam...and on and on...

You also have to worry about local zoning and criminal laws, how to handle income taxes on the worker's pay, recuriting and retaining attractive girls who understand how to market themselves and maximize profits for you and them,

The local studios in many of the countries, such as Russia, are illegal and as such are a part of a widespread underground economy.

As for taxes, you raise an interesting question, since the parent company---as a provider of services over the internet---is often elusive. There is a whole body of law that attempts to address the question of "where", for tax purposes, a business "is" that is essentially operating in cyberspace, making its location ambiguous. A company may have a base of operations in Europe, for example, but its domain may be registered in the Carribean, with banking operations in Asia and billing services in the US. As for studio owners, my sense is that those guys are not even on the map.

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I would also buy some computer keyboards with no upper case letters.

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But what if someone reports you to the police or the mafia? Does that thought frighten you?

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if you can't figure out the basics (i.e. rent apt/house, computers, internet, web cam, hire girls), you're gong to have a steep learning curve. Plus I don't think any studio boss or host will give you the full details, why would they help someone dilute thier earning pool.

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Let me start by saying that you are absolutely stunning, a true beauty with intelligence to match...

Now what will that get me I wonder? :-)

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To a better place, I think. A more spiritual plane... 'cause it obviously ain't doing me any good down here on cc :-)

But I meant everything I said... :-))))))

About 20 dollars deeper in debt.

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I think what he is trying to say is that the Fed EX man is well known to the girls. Can't help feeling there is something missing from the story/joke. Not sure how all the women can recognise seven different men's privates and he wasn't even there. Hell I am thinking too hard about this. Just to say hope you are well Gortensia and sure you are looking forward to 25th. Take care and i will talk to you soon
Yoshhi aka C

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Hi Gortesia I am here but only as a guest. Still keep trying to chat with you on cam but ppl here are being rather silly. If you have time would love to know what you are doing in life now (as well as working here). If you are interested about dates it is 29 of 9 as you forgot to send me a Valentines message maybe a nice message on this day would be good Take care. Yoshii(I was joking about the Valentines message, guess you were to busy reading the thousands that you got).

Raul will step in and put a McDonald's on ever city block in Havana.

and capitalism will collaps and China will remain as only super power

and they will all be fat and happy and forget about fidel

I pray that Cuba and the USA will break bread one day soon. Cuban culture is warm and beautiful.

Raul will open video studios in habana and hire nice cubanas to do shows in instant action, mmmmmmmmmmmmm

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capitalist everywhere r frothing at the mouth...but i congratulate him for fending off the consumer threat from usa...bringing free health care, free education to his country!!

This IS a consumer site, you DO realize, eh pinko?

Just vote for John McCain and cross your fingers that one of the first of the wars he's promising will be to overthrow the Cuban government.

good deal...please line-up to go or be sure to send you son/daughter to defend the capitalist fear-monger society.

If nothing happens..it will be as it has been since 1959 and nothing has happened in 49 years.

Can someone tell me what's up with Fidel and those damn fugly track suits?
Did he sign some kind of sponsorship deal with Adidas or something?

He got them on the cheap from China

It's not even a track suit. It looks like a fancy janitors uniform.

been wearing them since he got sick,

Fidel is to Lenin what Raul is to Stalin. It will only get worse

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If I were you...I'd be more concerned abut what happens when Putin steps down!

No more poisioning?

not really stepping down is he

free elections?

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something call marketing I think ... clearly some of these chicks aren't as stupid as they look ...

too funny

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:p

old eyes leo baby kisses

whats ur point? hosts cant change their hairstyle anymore? hosts HAVE to stay the same way forever just to plz the members? what about the members that change their screen names? why aint u battering them down?

I don't believe anyone was "battered down". Chill alittle.

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So, you like noodles? ;p

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what type of noodles do you like???????????

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bald might be interesting

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Its called good business. I prefer that to the girls who remain the same and get stale and complacent about their job. But I agree for us old regulars it can get comical.

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I remember this song was recorded by the Beatles. Nice song. Thank you.

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do YOU think EVERY post has to be interesting for EVERYONE?

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and whats a popper Tanusha ? :P

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Nice profile pic, Miss Dizzy Lizzie... you make me want to take up fingerpainting again :-)

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Mmmm sorry dear... last time I fingerpainted was long before you were a mote in your old man's eye.

Good Golly Miss Molly
I'd sure like to ball.

nice litttle addy lizzy , but new ? klem

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hmmm... if you put it that way... maybe the ones who are not smart enough to make money in another type of job?

for viewers this is just payed entertainment like any other, that's all.

this is enjoyable and easy, why have another job if this pays well enough?!

because of the shame you feel for not being smart enough to qualify for a job that pays even more.

Try to come to Romania or Russia and find a well paid job here, and then we will talk

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move

Is it the smartest asnwer you can give? to move?

aren't you smart enough to move?

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So the only way to make money there is in the sex business? Jezzzz what a country.

If you want good money, normal living and not to worry about tomorrow, yes sex biz is the best opportunity,... of course you can be a high level manager too, then you would make as much as good hosts make here..but not everyone can be topmanager in a company :) You can still be a politician here, putting all the money into your pocket what EU sends you to support the country..bet you would never think of working here. You can even be in the mafia..no need to work here either :)) You can be an enterpreneur related to governmental circles...knowing the inside infos.having all of those cute offshore companies where you save together the citizens money for yourself, you would never think of working here.:) On the other side..Hired by the goverment? Or by a multinational co? Using my masters degree? Come on, the country is full of young people with legal and economic degrees.. It's much better here..It's nobody's fault where you were born, you don't have to make fun of others.You must be lucky that you were born somewhere else.

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you can pretend as much as you want. I probably do. Do you make more than 200 000 per year?

For how long will you be able to keep the 200 000 per year? (which i doubt you can make)

or the ones who do all the work only to get 50% of the 50% their boss gets of the 50% total earned from the site. Tee hee.

I dont work from studio ;)

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say whatever you want

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Very divisive question HOST. I'm sure you meant to infer that the members are the stupid ones and if that's the case keeping ur nickname anonymous was a good idea. Most members are smart enough to avoid a HOST who insults the entirety of the group. However, I must say that the hosts that I know are very intelligent. I now realise that by attempting to answer ur question I just got alot more stupid so I give up trying.

she meant to imply, you mean, not infer.

dave the only reason the hosts u know seem intelligent is coz ur a dumbass....but then again put u next to me ur like einstien..DOH :(

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promises...promises...please honor us with your promises!!

Well that is very easy for me to answer . The host I go to see has already told me that I am the stupid one and she is the smart one in the partnership :-))) . Regardless of anything I say , I have been firmly told I am the dumb one !! :-) Well I suppose I can comfort myself with being the funny one like Stan Laurel , Lou Costello , Jerry Lewis , Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels etc.

hmmm since u ask, probably those who don't make money, ur sugestion is otherwice callled successfull busuness.

HOST since you choose to be so black and white on this issue and only offer one or the other... I will say the members (the ones spending the money) are the stupid ones HERE. But keep your ego in check, HOST, because that is ONLY HERE. By your definitions, you are just as stupid as the members EVERYWHERE you spend the money you've earned. Something to think about before being so quick to feel superior to anyone. Kinda sucks the pleasure out of all those shopping sprees now, doesn't it?

its attitude. very prevalent here.

now that argument makes loads of sense
huh?

It does make loads of sense "a noun". Perhaps you need to brush up on your reading comprehension skills. I will summarize it for you... HOST asks a question which implies that because she earns money on this site she is more intelligent than all the people that spend money on this site... thus boosting her ego and allowing herself to feel superior to her customers. However she fails to realize that by taking the model which she has created for this site and expanding it to encompass all of the places in which she is a customer in her life, it by default, implies that she is less intelligent than the people she gives money to in exchange for goods and services that she recieves from them. Simple.

host say anything about blowing all the money shopping or is that your intelligent deduction, argument does not hold water without tht declaration er part now does it

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Seems like a stupid question to ask.

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u had to pay to pass ur exams? damn u really r more stoopid than we all thought..good luck tho :)

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thats a fair point...should i do the same? :p

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we gave you a high school diploma? it's true then our schools are in bad shape

kind of like the system where u hand them out on the net. as for the crued sites ,i guess there still are a lot of cowboys without any diploma bossing around there in far off places, must have beeen quite a job Ori

diplomas are for suckers. there just tokens to grant people entry as mindless cogs in the machine.

actually i think this calls for a congressional investigation since ori is star, so that those congressman the poor victims of our schools keep electing, can prove beyond all shadow of doubt that our school system has failed

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exhibit a for instance in the missouri schools they neglected to teach the spelling of SPRINGIELD, the investigation goes on

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did you lose a pinky finger in the war?:O

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Yes, very nice.

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I wasn't going to continue this thread but you've puzzled me...
I'm afraid I just can't find a relation of your reply with my original post.

Anyway...If you meant that "Bulat Okudzhava now is a bit forgotten in Russia" because he was a Georgian, it is not what I meant...Yes, he was born in Georgia but then lived till his death in Moscow and still associated with USSR. I mean that these days lots of extraordinary people including from any of former republics were almost forgotten. That is very sadly and a big loss. There was a time in 50-60-70ss of great poets, actors, etc...Some people still remember and love that period despite the wrongs which we all know very well.
As for our "red past"...well, my point is that there cannot be a simple answer. There were good things with a bad ones mixed together. As you said, it takes a time for people to realize what they've lost instead of what they have got...The same I can say about Russian culture. Along with a brilliant talents we have a lots of real rubbish. But I think nowadays it is a common trend all over.

and russian filmakers from those periods are passed over as well. as today...you can blame your political leadship, little respect for the resources devoted to the older generations...too much focus on youth...which is the problem with capitalist consumer driven society's...so welcome to the west...maybe lenin and marx had it right.

No, I'm sorry, but they didn't.

You could always move to Cuba and relive your glorious communist past.
If you're an artist of any stripe though, just be mindful that you don't produce anything that casts the regime in a bad light... A Cuban prison I'm sure is much better than a gulag, but still...

keep it up

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Its not easy to be in love with a host, there are always suspicions but after 3 years I have come to terms with her work! She has to do it to survive and live, I understand that. She would not choose to do this work but has no other choice at this time. Its all about trust! And the same applies in reverse, I am a member of this site and she trusts me to stay faithful to her too! If you have trust then anything is possible!

if it was me i would support whatever desicion she thinks would be best for her...if ur in love with someone it doesnt matter what they do for a living..ur with the person and take all that they do with it

if only all guys thought and respect decisions of their girls as you .. :-) thnx for answers anyhow. now i feel less "bitchy" for my bf.. cos i said truth to him and was afraid of his reaction . )

All guys wouldn't be happy about it.

As for "i would support whatever desicion she thinks would be best for her." I wonder what if your gf was a prostitute who sucked and fucked twenty guys a day without a condom.

The "I respect whatever decision she makes" is a false statement that is made with your own internal limits intact.

give imshy credit - he is just saying, as I understand him, love is acceptance

Oh yes, if my lover who sold heroin and did the occasional hit job it wouldn't bother me at all, as long as the money came in and we didn't fight.

It is not the best job and I would worry a bit about guys trying to seduce her into reality, but I could be serious about her as a gf. However, once we applied for the visa I would ask her to stay away from Not So Shy category and once she got the visa I would ask her to quit this site.

i question you if you come here in search of a real relationship...most girls here...despite what they tell you...r here for the money...they get seduced by it and/or/refuse to develop any other of their talents...from the member perspective...it is similar...funny enough...except you loose your money. ;)

i agree i was hooked on c.c. it can be additicative...bu ti am better now...

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no, i didn't come here for that - i only answered the question that was asked

so you would get her to your country and then expect her to give up her job so she can sit around and cook and clean for you?

The intelligent, educated and charming girls on cc would hardly sit home. Do you happen to think the only thing they can do is be a chat host? Shit, I've met doctors and nurses here. I've met engineering and computer science students.

Where, where, where?
Company executives too? LOOOOOOOL!!!! Oh please!!!

Jealousy and lack of trust is a killer. Even for NonA in vid, a little niggle of doubt creeps in. But, if it is true love then trust is everything.

Any dude who would get all jealous and shit over some other dude who has to pay to spend time with you is a fool.
Don't stand for it, babe. A guy like that is more trouble than he's worth. Set that loser free and find yourself an understanding dude instead.

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Husbands and b/f and even family members will never be jealous. They benefit from your work. It is in their self-interest as much as it is yours to be working here. They encourage and pimp your existence ! Don't think for one minute they respect you or honor your work here.

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Why do you think it is not the best way to earn money?
Especially if you live somewhere in eastern europe where 3000$ a month can provide you a brilliant lifestyle.
I know girls in England giving up their stupid full time jobs to enjoy the easy money from here.
And why would my husband think less of me. He respects me and my decisions in life, loves me and takes very good care of me.
He knows I only enjoy the cash from here and is happy as long as he doesn't need ot pay for my 100+ pounds bags and shoes LOL.
I'm sure many of the chathosts make more money than the viewers and enjoy much better lifestyles.

sure husband's don't complain! You tell they don't enjoy the money you earn?? They don't have to work so hard coz you provide money to them?? Tell me that's not true...

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i'll bet he won't be around so long with you...trust me...he'll need some self respect at some point in his life...or maybe not ;)

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My gf worked here, it is were i met her, she is the kindest most beautiful lady i have met...and every lady i met and talked to here is ...."a lady"a simple word bu tthe truth...she doe s not work here now....i am glad...but i will never think any ill words about her time here...it is were i met her..so i thank c.c......and for people who would say bad words...you are here also do these words no tapply to you?

I know I wouldn't accept it. I wouldn't take any girl from this site seriously. I met many hosts who were with guys from their city towns, married or just living together as boyfriends. These girls were friends of mine and some of them still are, but most of them confessed to had fallen in love with me or other members. Their confessions made me look at reality and know that girls or women that are exposed to these type of jobs are not recommendable. Guys can stop coming here and continue their real life and forget about everything, but girls due to their sentimental nature keep in touch with most members using emails, messengers, sms. these members become part of their daily life up to the point of falling in love with them. So my answer is no. I wouldn't like my gf or wife to do this.

A double standards are among the things which always amaze me. Why do you, men, think that you are somehow "cleaner" or have a "higher" moral than the girls who work here? Why it is you who should judge a girl according to what she is doing? Doesn't any girl here on CC or there in real life have to decide if to marry a guy when she knows he can come on the porn site and pay for the live video?
If to call this kind of work a "bad thing" or a "sin" or somehow else...then lets face it, man is the one who TAKES PART, so the second person in that interaction, then they both are a sinners. But if to admit that there is nothing wrong with this work, so where is a problem then? Just a little thing is required - to be honest with yourself and to start judging yourself first...
Hmmm...being such a moralists, why not to spend a time in the museums and art galleries or just read a good book before going to sleep?

one thing you probably never heard of is that men are men regardless what we do we will never have anything lose as opposed to women that have a reputation to care for. Also, we are not the ones being paid to serve others sins. We pay, but girls can always say no. Do we lose anything by trying? No. Would a real good girl perform a strip tease for other than her husband or bf? No Go and figure it out :-P

I assure you that I have heard many things in my life, and this one too. I have heard this fictive theory and bombastic idea of men's impeccability many times, and I am sure it still lives because it is very suitable for men like you who cover their own sins and justify their own disloyalty "regardless what they do"...Who said to you that men should be a special caste? Have you ever heard the law that BOTH men and women must keep their souls in fairness and their bodies in purity? But ah, it is so hard to keep, so men created their new law which let them to violate the first one, and which let them to use a woman and then to judge her...
Before to judge others everyone has to start from judging his own principles.

I totally agree that women should keep their reputation, but don't tell me that men are those who are exceptions. So, go and figure it out...

men and women will be judged the same. it depends on how you feel inside and how you are prepared to live with yourself to what degree you are willing to deny your inner reality and maybe you prefer to deny it because you do not want to suffer so you continue to do the same things that you will always do and you will never change and hope to be a better person inside for yourself only not for what others think of you.

no one is clean that walks this earth. but all have a choice to make about everything. some will make easier choice some will compromise less to maintain their diginity. others have never known self respect or understand or even care to understand the meaning.

I don't agree, but in the end, if I had a marriage with a girl from here I would prefer she use her education and get a job that would challenge and enrich her.

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is this some contest? The most greedy wins? Does money give you power over men?? Be honest...what's your real intent? Conquer the male sex?

your right...they play with their members...some seriously taking money outside of here...now if your wife is walking around the office showing her pussy...well, just maybe there could be problems. ;)

I dont trust any girl that works here or any video chat site. If she lost dignity, self respect, principles, and morals already. What else can be hard for her to lose? She will easily get rid of me as soon as the next man comes in.

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isn't that just the best and most hypocritical analysis I've read in this thread. bravissimo!

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And I shouldn't trust your dignity or morals for being a viewer??

I am not the sex servant who benefits from others' lowest needs ;-)

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How can you have respect for a woman who doesn't respect herself?

if she's hot, i think i can fake it.

Why do you think we don't have self respect.

I wouldn't like it. It is one thing when she is single and depends on working here fo earn a living, but something different after she is married. If she is living with her husband and he earns enough to support them both comfortably and live a decent lifestyle, if she loves and respects her husband and their marriage, then why would a wife want to go online and show her body and be sexual with other men? And it is not only the showing and the performing for other men... it is the close and emotional bonds she forms with these men... sometimes telling them things that should only be shared with her husband. I don't agree with the "it is my body and i will do what i want with it... i am independent" attitude. if that is how you feel, don't get married... it is that kind of "modern" thinking that has caused the divorce rates to sore in "modern" times. in marriage your body is not yours... it is a gift to your other half... that is the way it was intended...and neither should abuse their gifts... but cherish them and strive to keep them special to the other. if a person does that in a marriage then jealousy is a rare thing. for a married person a place like this can easily come between you and your mate. as i said if a woman was married and didn't need to be here financially why would she choose to be? just because the viewer cannot touch her does not mean she is not giving him a piece of her real self... have you ever heard of emotional cheating? when a person shares personal thoughts and feelings and emotions with someone besides their partner... begins sharing with them things they have never told their partner and developing a deep emotional connection and feelings for that person. it slowly robs the marriage of it's intimacy. think of the ways you show love... sharing secrets, feelings... giving them your time... giving them your energy... giving them your laughter... giving them your soul... giving them your body.... when you begin to give these things to others when they should be given to your partner it is cheating.... because you are taking away from your partner. a wife being on a site like this opens herself up to temptation... falling in love with the attention and compliments of other men... developing bonds and feelings for other men, etc. that slowly shift her focus from her marraige and her husband and draw her deeper and deeper into this world... until she spends more time with these men online and shares more of herself with them than she does her husband and the marriage falls apart.

caveman I presume you are not married

you are correct polka dot, i am not married. but i have a high respect for marriage.

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no question about that.

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so both parties are equal and responsible for their actions...of deception, deceit, passion, promises, sorrow, bitterness, envy, shame, pride, and all the rest of base instincts that drive people here.

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a host.. you speak too broadly... I didn't say ALL the women here do not have self-respect and for your counter... not all the members here are married, so they hide nothing from a wife. As I said before, if a woman is single and working as a host to support herself... fine. If she is married and has to work to help financially and this kind of work is the only option that is available to her that she could earn enough... I think it is sad, but I understand she must do what is necessary for her and her husband to survive. But what about the married women that do not have to be working here for financial reasons... the ones who have husbands that earn enough to support them both and give them a decent lifestyle without her being a chathost and stripping and being sexual with other men? Why are those women hosting? I did not say these women do not respect themselves... I am sure they have plenty of self-respect, however, I think they have very little respect for their marriages. They are hosting just to have adult fun and be sexual with other men... they are doing it for their own selfishness and egos. People can try to protect their conscience by arguing it is just harmless fun because no one is physically touching... that it isn't cheating... but deep down they know it is wrong... that it is cheating and that they shouldn't be doing these things with anyone except their partner. If you came home one day and found your partner and a stranger of the opposite sex sitting naked on opposite sides of the kitchen table, talking dirty to each other and watching each other masturbate would you be pissed off and think they were doing something wrong even though they weren't touching? Most likely you would call them a cheater. So why try to argue that it is ok if they were doing the same thing on computers over the internet? You know it is not. In both cases they are doing the exact same thing, the only actual difference is the distance between them while they do it. And before any host tries to make an argument about married men being here... you are right... I think married men are wrong for being here as well. Both are equally wrong.

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"lol", I wonder, why did you get married? Also, if your husband didn't want you doing this work, or be doing/showing certain things in video, would you care? Everything in your post, was about you... you'll do what you want, you'll work where you want, you'll show what you want... and nobody has the right to say anything about it because you are your own person and you will do it even if you don't need the money. It sounds very selfish and childish of you. Marriage isn't about being independent... it's about being co-dependent. Marriage isn't about "you will do whatever you want when you want", it is about being repectful of your spouses feelings and doing what is best for the both of you. Since you boast about having a degree in psychology, you should be even more aware of these simple concepts than most people. You speak as if you have a happy marriage, but I wonder how true that is... you seem so caught up in yourself and your own desires that I don't think you have even bothered to ask your husband about what he wants and if he is happy in the marriage or to really listen to how he feels about the things you do... nor would you care enough to stop doing them if they did hurt or bother him. That is precisely what I was talking about in my previous post when I said "I believe they have little respect for their marriages". If you want to be part of two independent people living their own lives but living in the same house, don't get married, just get a roommate. If you want to experience real love, respect, understanding and intimacy in a marriage then you have to stop living for yourself and start living for each other... and that means not always doing what you want.

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hahahaha - damn! and I was so pleased when I read every line without mistake. :P

Hahaha that was so funny :) .. and i read it without mistake lol

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that took 40 secs, then sure i must be getting old :P

This old man loved it

WELL when do I find out if I passed or not?????????????

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I have to say I do Gorty, and I find them quite enlightening and balanced. Just my opinion but I like having Laughing Girl in the forums. It gives me comfort that there is at least one person who is smart and sensible as well as understanding and kind. Wish there were more then I would never need to post to the forums ever again. Oh how that _would_ make some people happy ;)

TNTKWSIBWNTNEOPOD

Keep posting NT and maybe help form a new movement - TPACPC
:-)

I read and admire Laughing Girl as well. It's remarkable how someone so obviously intelligent is able to post so often without showing even a hint of egoism. She's never condecending, and never seeks to incite contention only so she can position herself on the right side of a disagreement, and her posts are still very thoughtful and very thought provoking.
She's the best.

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Yes.. I meant I do read LG's posts. And would recommend anyone else does as well. But of course, you are free to form your own opinions I would not wish you to do something you did not want to do.

Why, I am even told there are people who have never read one of my posts. Imagine that!! ;) Hehe..

TNTJLJASIIF

don't bother with banana - it ain't that nice to be honest

Is laughing girl your alter ego TNT?

Now there's a thought. You think she could be my better half? Or worse half? I think you'd need to ask her that, for the record though, she is not me. :)

TNTKKFMLLBNWKWAT

T wat?

Didn't think you were same person. Complimenting you both :-)!!!

I totally agree.

NOT

Ok TNT

Thank you, Forum Friend...for the compliment to me too, because I definitely know I'm not Gortensia...lol. I too find her posts very positive as well as very responsive. I am sure the same positive and responsive she is as a real person.
And yes, I always post under the same nickname here in forum, just because I always say what I really think and want another people to know that I am the same Laughing girl. Maybe some day I will post under my hostname but then I will let you know that it was no one else but me.

You and everyone have a wonderful day / night :-)

I like laughing girl a lot. Always intelligent, well thought out posts.

I agree with you Forum Friend about Gortensia. I like to read her posts. As far as Laughing Girl I have not read as many of hers. I will have to start reading them closer now. Thank you for your input.

My dear...sometimes we all feel like that. But it is just a moments of weakness, they will go away. Look around...actually noone is perfect but everyone is unique. You have something what others do not have..you need just to discover what is it. How old are you? Sometimes 18-20 years old girls think that they never will be loved. That is funny, really...And even if you are 35-40yo, it is not the end of life :) You really need some of self-confidence...Stop hardly think that you have to find someone, nothing will change if to think like that. Just enjoy life, it has many other enjoyable sides. Find your own hobby to fill your time, start to create something...and you maybe will find your fate there.

Best of luck to you!

Listen to Laughing girl, discover your inner beauty and you will see all that you have to offer someone. Do not be in a hurry, love will come to you but first you must appreciate yourself for all that you are. Even when we are in a dark mood our inner light is still there...waiting for us to let out. I wish all the best for you and send you a warm hug from someone who knows your true spirit will set you free :))

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Peace to you, for we all feel the same sometime.

Advice sometimes is meaningless, but I will offer this, if you do not TRY to love yourself, you cannot find love in another, nor can they find you. Take a deep breathe, think of all the the things to be grateful for. If you are fat, be glad you are not hungry, if you are woman, be glad you are not a man, if you are poor be glad that you are alive, and if you are sad and lonely, be happy...because there is hope that things may improve.

You are not alone...we are human, therefore we are made form the universe, and you have the stars in your soul...let them shine.

Peace to you, for we all feel the same sometime.

Not yet sweetie :))

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yes send to me :p

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I'm an idiot Laughing girl :) ....didn't get because this is not my nick here ;) So how do we meet when we both are so mysterious? :))

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I believe your mom has wisdom :) We shall see how fate will treat us. Hug :)

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I sometimes feel the same :( and i understand you totally. Even if people say i'm beautiful, i feel so ugly, or i have moments when i feel the most stupid on earth, but im at my second univ and so on. You just have to resist, i learned that these moments come and pass. Try to find a new hobby or go to some classes to learn dunno what silly thing,.. anything to make u smile and never forget to see the good parts in your life; im sure they exist.
..... you are never alone anyway, see how many people write u here? :):)

"Try to find a new hobby or go to some classes to learn dunno what silly thing,.. anything to make u smile"

Yes, and the best new relationships I ever made were through a shared interest - I already had something in common with her and so had a lot to talk about. Also, we all look that much more attractive when we are animated and interested in something.

Thank you, honey...for the response and so kind words :-)
Of course, let be a friends, even if anonimous yet, and even if I am 150 years old ;-) I feel comfortable with people of any age...Just please, change your nickname, I don't want you to be UPSET ever :D

Be like me, I love myself, in fact, I adore myself. I am the most intelligent humorous, person I know. Just check the forums, people sing my praises. Ok, enough about me, let's talk about you. what do you think of me? :--)

I think you are cute as a button. But don't let anyone else know that ok? :D


TNTSIUFIS

Oh I do apologise.. It's tisme who is cute... imshy is just plain old sexy...

Dear dear dear.. hope there are no cat fights now? ;)

TNTCHTTDBTTYK

still living the dream,almea.knock yourself out :--) p.s nice that you kept your homo-erotic fantasies about my genitals out of this post

That is because of the power and influence of The Beatles.

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crazy sixties ;) - the most progresive decade of any century ? c'mon - hehe

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all right, a litte lezbo kissng going on with the new girl....yeahhhh

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what's so naty about girls kissing?
are you homophobic?

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lezbo kisses are beautiful things. you shouldn't be so judgemental and so quick to disparage things that might only make you, personally, uncomfortable ... especially here of all places.
peace be with you.

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keep it going virtual one. high aims are needed, and u made a nice start, ;) by the way didn't even know u where BI ;) klem

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