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I have read a lot of posts from members who are shocked to find out that their host friend at CC is really not a true friend and only interested in their money. Here is a little analogy to help you understand. (Doesn't apply in every case here but in most)

Pretend your host friend is a waitress. She works at a restaurant you like to visit a few times a week. Maybe every day. She smiles at you when you arrive. She knows your name. She really likes you. She knows what you want and what you like. She flirts with you, jokes with you, chats with you if the restaurant is not too busy. She tells you a little about her personal life. She senses when you are upset and asks what's the matter. You share some general advice on life from time to time. You are a good guy in her eyes. No hassle. Makes coming to work less of a chore. All in all you appear to be friends. You leave her a nice tip after every meal and tell her you will see her tomorrow. Life is good.

One day you walk in the restaurant and your waitress friend is gone. Is she sick you ask? No...she got another job. You are a bit shocked. Maybe hurt. She didn't say a word to you about it. Did she go to another restaurant you ask? No...she took an office job. She was sick of putting up with guys here, she wanted a job with benefits and she was tired of lying to her friends and family about being a waitress...in any case it is none of your business. You are a bit depressed and sad. Until you realize.....

YOUR FRIENDSHIP HAS NO CONTEXT OUSIDE OF THE RESTAURANT. You were a good customer. Maybe her favorite. But you were a customer. You paid her money. She satisfied your physical need of hunger. That is the basis of the friendship.

So draw the analogy. The girls here might think you are nice, funny, clever and just an all around wonderful human being but.... you are first and foremost a customer who gives them money for providing a service and outside of CC there is no basis for friendship. They would never form a friendship with you outside of your economic relationship. When you realize that CC becomes a lot more fun.

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RE: Well

"You are a bit depressed and sad. Until you realize.....YOUR FRIENDSHIP HAS NO CONTEXT OUSIDE OF THE RESTAURANT."

Then you become REALLY depressed and sad.

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RE: Well

I have host and ex host friends outside of CC, in real not just IM and with less of an economic relationship than you may have with your gf or wife. I know that applies to other members too. Oh and I once spent a wonderful night with the waitress, just some roses the next day to show affection, respect and thanks. Live a little more by losing some of those predjudices. ;-)

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RE: Well

are you saying hosts are going to start asking us if we "want fries with that"?

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Except once in a while a better connection is made and you get laid by or married to the waitress. It happens all the time. Even in CC.

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Its not prejudice what he/she talks about. Its the general situation; the 'friend' who is actually only customer, friend only under the bounds of CC. He didnt said its a rule. I have a friend i met here, we passed the border of cc. We didnt have nights together, no marriage ideas, just friends and its cool. We share news, advices, help when its needed, but i have to admit almost all my lovely customer whom i like and are my favorites, remain customers in the end.

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your common sense is uncommon in this world of filled with sad and lonely people...the food served can make your stomach churn, give u indigestion and heartburn.

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RE: Well

the point of this was? :--)

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The point of this my friend is you should not put too much emotional stakes in relationships here. They can be fun, pleasant and enjoyable but they are based on sex and money. The hosts know that very well. It is the members who often confuse true feelings with commerce.

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We often set our own limitations. CC friendships can and do mature into the 'real' world. Personally, CC has given me some extraordinary friendships and experiences, been to places I never would have known about and met women I never would have otherwise. I don't bother with other sites now, they are purely commercial. Sorry your experiences here have just been based upon a credit card.

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back to 121 bb!!

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When issues like this come up it is a pity that the host forum is not open to all. A week seldom passes without a post from a host saying how she has fallen in love with a member or had her heart broken by one. So it cuts both ways.

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yes,but that is exactly the same as life.meeting people here is no different,just different circumstances as in life.so i still don't understand the point :--)

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yes, thx for bring it down to mortal consumption ;)

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bingo!!! we have a winner :--)

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An interesting analogy - but you mainly see it from the customer's point of view. Let's look at it as the waitress might have seen it. Here is a guy who is pleasant to chat with and makes her job a little bit easier and more pleasant. But he never tries to get her phone number, find out her birthday so he can get her a card or maybe suggest they meet up for a drink sometime when she is not working. In other words he never tries to take the friendship out of the context of the restaurant. You cannot expect a host to show true friendship if you only seem to want to be a customer. The friendship has to have a context away from CC but need not be completely away from CC. Also some members seem to equate friendship with free vids, which is a bit like asking the waitress friend not to charge you fro your meal.

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Yes, nice reply. Reminds of being in a restaurant with a young friend who fancied the waitress like crazy. He kept talking to her, trying to impress, until she said, "Hey look! I'm not being unfriendly but I'm working!" nuff said

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RE: Well

A very good counter argument.

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So if I want to be able to bone chicks here like Nick94 does, I have to pretend to take a personal intererst in those chicks first?

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You might find you have a better life if you don't merely "pretend" to take an interest in the girl, but genuinely take an interest in the girl.

Personally, I like women and I like the company of women. I always want to learn about her, because I am always interested. Women appreciate that, usually.

Except, of course, for those who are merely predatory and trying to extract money from me.

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That is exactly right, with respect to how the waitress views the friendly customer.

But it is not right about the "free vids". If the girl is taking off her clothes or some such, then there is an economic value to that and reality is that she can charge for it.

However, if this is just supposed to be a friendly conversation, then "free vid" means I get to see the face and facial expression of the person I am talking to. I therefore can react and respond in a fashion that is far more reminiscent of face to face.

And I am supposed to pay for this "privilege"?

It is sick.

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RE: Well

No, free videos are always out of the question to ask for.

Using the restaurant analogy, I can relate to that. I have a favorite place that I go to and I drink only coffee with tha rare addition of a muffin or other snack. So I am a low-spender but still enjoy that camraderie that I find there.

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LOL - When I was younger a big group of us used to always hang out at IHOP, a la "Friends" (the American TV show).

We never spent much money, but we'd be there for hours upon hours every night in that area in the back. We never bothered the "normal" customers out front, but we had quite a little world built amongst ourselves (customers of both sexes, cooks, waitresses, managers) that included relationships and even marriages.

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I haven't been a member here in almost 4 years & still chat on Yahoo occasionally with 1 cc girl & 3 former cc girls. The 3 former cc girls are no longer chathosts on any sites.

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I occasionally chat with one ex-cc host (she quit 4 years ago) and I'm trying to convince her to marry me, even if it mean living in her native country.

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RE: Well To [sigh]

I know a girl who quit here 4 years ago. If it's the same girl, good luck. She's a great girl.

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A lot of friendships and deeper relationships are based on money. Without it they fail. Most people do not realize this until they run into financial problems. Real friendship and love are much rarer than it seems.

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what is...

ur favourite holiday spot...and if u never been away where would u like to go?
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Bora Bora hands down.

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never been myself but know many that have and seen pics from them...looks an amazing place..good call well

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Me too! lol Went there in '56

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Hope that is not a piss take about where I live.

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Hawaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii)

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Monika, I agree with you. Hawaii is one of my favorite places. I have been there several times and I will return.

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Come say hello next time you visit... will take u to all the secret native Hawaiian hot spots :-)

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I would enjoy the native Hawaiian hot spots. Let me know how to find you

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quite honestly barb i wouldnt want u too

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feelin philisophical...

if things that r rare in this world r of high value then surely we should value all human beings the most as they r unique
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hit my head on the wall last night when i was sleepin..im scared too bridgy

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The thinking is muddled: rare things are not necessarily of high value. The value comes with demand: something may have absolute rarity but if nobody wants it, no value will be attached to it.

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like green eggs maybe

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do u like ur green eggs with ham?

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you guessed it dave! :P

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you're talking about me greeny :--)

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"...we should value all human beings the most ..."

There's the rub... There are over seven billion of them and so many of the fuckers are so annoying.

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RE: feelin philisophical...

Eh?

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will you stfu!, any more talking like that and host will start beliving they are worth $2.99 a min.

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money and personal ambition are valued greater than human life...historically speaking and as long as the human species exists.

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when did u name it "philosphical"? LOL

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seems u cant spell either "philosphical"??? hmmm..its actually philosophical and i can admit to my mistakes...can u :D

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I don't think the post was about your spelling Imshy.I think he meant that you had named your cock "philosophical" as you were feelin it.

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nope my cock's name is tiny tony...work out why :)

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anthony was too big to tattoo :--)

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What's the most offensive word ?

what's the most offensive word you know or the thing u would least like to be called?
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bb..intelligent...handsome...funny,,,but the worst ones... NICE & SWEET!!!! *BANGHEAD*

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don't think you will have to worry about being called those things much:P

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Yes I totally agree and for me if an 18-20 yr old starts calling me that they certainly never get any response. They have no idea of my age and I have grave doubts I will ever be their baby!!!!

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NICE & SWEET. And I'm not kidding... not even a little.

Have you ever heard a woman say "I just met this really
sensitive, thoughtful, sweet guy that calls me 100
times a day and sends me flowers and cards and gifts...
and I just can't stop thinking about him..."?

No?

Me neither.

Surprise, surprise.

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no & too nice :--)

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Mia, I agree with you. Incapable is offensive to me. It means I will do it if at all possible, unless I do not like to do it.

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bet mine doesnt get posted

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RE: What's the most offensive word ?

motha-fucka...insults my dear Ma. A rasta called me that so I cut off his dreadlocks.

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Surely you also hate it when you are in a pissy mood and people ask you if you are hormonal. :)

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Nice, cute, bb, hun, Nelly Furtado=))

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RE: What's the most offensive word ?

kneegrabber, pillowbiter and cocksmoker are pretty bad

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PW

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CW

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late for dinner.

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RE: What's the most offensive word ?

being called english!

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If you don't like being called bb, hun, dear, etc...then don't start it with us. 9/10 times when I go into a chat, I see "Hi bb", or "hru bb?"

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RE: What's the most offensive word ?

WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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why

why..can anyone tell me...who...does anyone know...what....is the answer
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all i know is where and when

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Y's on 1st, What's on 2nd, Who is Next!

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you answered it yourself obi.who can rell you why,what knows who & why answered what :--)

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42

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She's perfect

and i love her sooooooo much :D :)
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RE: She's perfect

i agree with u..er..who??

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now ur dreaming

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wouldn't that be a nightmare shyster? :--)

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cool,but does she love you & more importantly do you deserve her love :--)

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a nurse will give you a little prick but you give a prostitute a little prick ??????

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What's the difference between a dachshaund and a street trader?

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ok been thinking about it for a while.One bawls out his wares and the other wears out his balls.

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joke

A young man moved into a new apartment of his own and

went to the lobby to put his name on his mailbox.

While there, an attractive young lady came out of the apartment next to the mailboxes, wearing a robe.

The boy smiled at the young woman and she started a conversation with him.

As they talked, her robe slipped open, and it was obvious that she had
nothing else on. The poor kid broke into a sweat trying to maintain eye
contact After a few minutes, she placed her hand on his arm and said,
"Let's go to my apartment,... I hear someone coming."

He followed her into her apartment; she closed the door and leaned
against it, allowing her robe to fall off completely.
Now nude, she purred at him, "What would you say is my best feature?"

Flustered and embarrassed, he finally squeaked, "It's got to be your ears."

Astounded, and a little hurt she asked, "My ears? Look at these breasts;

they are full and 100% natural. I work out every day and my butt is firm and solid.

Look at my skin - no blemishes anywhere.

How can you think that the best part of my body is my ears?"

Clearing his throat, he stammered .... "Outside, when you said you
heard someone coming.... that was me."


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good joke--charming--i love it

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all i got to say--mmmm--very interesting---reminds me of my early years---cool (good joke charming or was it a joke)

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mmmmmmmmmmm===yes---good view

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where are you from chaser and charming

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i from usa ,,, where you from and who are you,(?)

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romania-anne

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lol very good thanks :)

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but stay on the computer, Love... break away

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If i had any ideas what to do on a friday night do you think i would be reading and posting in this Forum.....
Try having a nap

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dear "LoveRuShka"

Maybe if you answered people who tried to talk to you in CommChat you wouldn't be bored.

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RE: dear

Well, then someone has hijacked your name because there was an orange "LoveRuShka" there last night.

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is she a friend?

I have online friendships with a number of hosts. Some I will go visit, if the time and circumstances are right. One thought is how sincere are the friendships and invitations? I have all of their Yahoo nick's and use them to see if a friend is online without having to go to the trouble of logging into cc. I know they are working and often cannot (or don't want to) spend a lot of time in IM. Though ocassionally I will spend quite some time in conversation there I *never* ask for free video.

I recently got a mic/headset that I may use and I was anxious to try it. I looked on my IM list and found two hosts online there. I went to one of my very favorites and said "please help me test the mic" I'm not sure it works. Her response was "we'll test it in video." I said I wanted to try it in IM because it didn't seem to be working and I wanted to test it there first. Her response was "come to vid."

Ok, so she puts on a hot show at reasonable rates, but friend she is not. Such an easy test! And one I would never have contemplated.

The other host gladly let me "call" her and confirmed the mic worked. We talked a little and then she went back to work and I logged-off.

Guess which host is my first choice now?
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lol

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very normal thing around here for people to have each others yahoos. and since he was calling through the compute, it wasn't like giving her phone number. it was for the check

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RE: is she a friend?

Don't take it too hard with her.
If the girl's on a studio, it may be very uncomfortable for her to speak with you by mic, if there's 3 or 4 or 5 more girls around who will, quite possibly, make fun of her.
Also, she may have been in video already and busy... You never know.
Better ask next time about it, don't go crazy :)

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You know there is a way to test your mic in the windows control panel. No need to pretend you have to "test" you mic with a host.
P.S. Next time try asking you non host friends in YM....unless..... never mind :(

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RE: is she a friend?

Lmao,post of the week.congrats.

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Both Gort's and fwaapping.. posts are very reasonable. Many times members make requests without thinking about the possible situations of the host. Also you did not consider it a test when you asked her but she may have thought you were testing her and resented it. Her studio admin may have happened to be next to her, many other possibilities.

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RE: Usually ppl do it at the beginning of new year…

Well, this is one you won't meet in real, cos you won't tell me who you are, and cos I've gone.
At least I know you are not one of the "nail" brigade, cos you just said so.
My internet addiction will be drastically reduced too.
Good luck, take care. Chmock
Ray.

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RE: Usually ppl do it at the beginning of new year…

If you left how can you post?

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RE: Usually ppl do it at the beginning of new year…

Quite easy. it takes 24 hours for accounts to be closed and do you think I will miss an opportunity to post. I am Mondo, after all.

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RE: Usually ppl do it at the beginning of new year…

Damn is that a new thing that it takes 24 hours to close an account on cc??
Anytime i closed old id`s they were closed in minutes!!!???

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RE: Usually ppl do it at the beginning of new year…

actually ray gotta correct u there...as soon as u click cancell account its done

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RE: Usually ppl do it at the beginning of new year…

Lmao, Girl, ur in trouble now))))))))

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RE: Usually ppl do it at the beginning of new year…

u 4got 1....DONT tell ppl who u r (100%)

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RE: Usually ppl do it at the beginning of new year…

will you teach shy how to make bosrcht so he can do the diet part in conjunction

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RE: Usually ppl do it at the beginning of new year…

wow...me perfect??? actually yeah i am....u got class...and great taste in men :D good girl LoL

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RE: Usually ppl do it at the beginning of new year…

to keep breathing :D whats urs?

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I am looking for a gorgeous blond estonian girl who wants six gorgeous children to a loving man in a lucky country!

Please contact me!
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if u get too many offers send some my way :)

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RE: I am looking for a gorgeous blond estonian girl who wants six gorgeous children to a loving man in a lucky country!

the benefits office in the UK ;)

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RE: I am looking for a gorgeous blond estonian girl who wants six gorgeous children to a loving man in a lucky country!

You are a little out of touch. They closed all the Benefit Offices. All Jobcentre Plus outlets now.

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RE: I am looking for a gorgeous blond estonian girl who wants six gorgeous children to a loving man in a lucky country!

six??????????????? very ambitious

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RE: I am looking for a gorgeous blond estonian girl who wants six gorgeous children to a loving man in a lucky country!

Since you're asking for so much, why stop there? Get an entire harem: blonde, brunette, redhead, slim, voluptuous, white, black, asian, etc.

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RE: I am looking for a gorgeous blond estonian girl who wants six gorgeous children to a loving man in a lucky country!

you could always go to Estonia, of course. If you can afford six children, a one way ticket should be affordable too.

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RE: I am looking for a gorgeous blond estonian girl who wants six gorgeous children to a loving man in a lucky country!

I only ran across one host who said she was from Estonia and that was years ago (but she was mucho caliente). Latvian girls used to rule CC, but that was a long time ago.

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RE: I am looking for a gorgeous blond estonian girl who wants six gorgeous children to a loving man in a lucky country!

try lookin up the word sarcasm then read her reply again

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RE: I am looking for a gorgeous blond estonian girl who wants six gorgeous children to a loving man in a lucky country!

Aaaaaaaaahahahhh man u rock))) Its the funniest post in ages=))=))

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Is it just me?

Or are is there more and more girls in Non-Adult charging very high prices for chat? Are we back to the old "wink-wink" non-adult or do they have adult IDs they steer members to? I mean 4 dollars a minute for a smile?
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Some have both, and NonA STILL means NonA. You want to pay $4.00/min for a chat it is your perogative, but it will be ONLY chat.
Some hosts may use a different name in different categories, but you will need to pay your money and take your chance.
Most NonA are STRICTLY NonA and will be most offended if the 'Wrong' question is asked.

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I think u will find there are still some meber s who want this so there will be hosts offering it.

I think its like some will go and see girls for humiliation , its very similar , pay a high amount and pretend your friends ...
knowing deep inside , your being taken , witha nice smile...

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RE: to someone who has a shit life

ok

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RE: to someone who has a shit life

sure

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RE: to someone who has a shit life

Why not.

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RE: to someone who has a shit life

You will need a bigger mailbox.

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RE: to someone who has a shit life

awful as never was before

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RE: to someone who has a shit life

misery loves company?

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RE: to someone who has a shit life

ok, i will gorty but i'm sure you're going need need a HUGE inbox for the replies that you're going to get.

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RE: to someone who has a shit life

I don't have one but I'll get one for u ;)

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RE: to someone who has a shit life

That is not me, but I will still cc mail you

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curious...

wtf is a "PW" from the post below..seems i aint the only one that aint got a clue
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RE: curious...

and who r u???

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RE: curious...

jeezzz dont u chicks give straight answers anymore *BANGHEAD*

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You still haven`t lewarned yet Shy. Women never give a straight answer to anything. There is always a hidden meaning tucked away deep inside their answer, you just have to take a map, compass and one of those damn GPA thingys to find the answer. :D:))

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wanna b my co-pilot and we'll try and learn 2gether :p

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sure ya can...but to apply u have to tell me who u r 2 (and none of this "im lady M crap")

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pssst..how many people call you shy guy & also...... :--)

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no one does...including mada

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RE: curious...

at least one person does,think about it :--)

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RE: curious...

me think? dude c'mon u know i never do that...spell it out

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RE: curious...

I...T...O...U...T...satisfied? :--)

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RE: curious...

ok u lost me now

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RE: curious...

no i haven't.you're right behind me :--)

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RE: curious...

Spell "it out"

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doh

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RE: curious...

make urself known to me then

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RE: curious...

mady? :--)

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shit didnt think of that...but it aint her tissue...that much im sure of

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RE: curious...

then madly(crazy) :--)

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RE: curious...

jeezz, you have a hard time comprehending stuff. Time to open those windows and get some fresh air.

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RE: curious...

pussy whipped

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RE: curious...

yes thats the meaning

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RE: curious...

You expect me to check every post "down there" to answer you? Until you signify exactly which one it is, does "password" work?

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RE: curious...

guess it might have helped if i said what post..but its been answered now...cheers anyway :p

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valentines....

new competition/game whatever u wanna call it from cc sounds cool...shame i wont win again :(( and i wonder how many cc valentines cards will get sent to me when they start it...should b an interesting new thing :D
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What thing? What have I missed out on hearing this time? Lol!

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doh' inside information relayed too early methinks

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Ah, its ok, had an e-mail from CC now! I understand!

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although i applaud cc for trying new contests, as a member, i would rather get changes like blocking ability over any cash prize. random prizes offer no incentive from my perspective..... that is if there are any cash prizes being offered.

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dont like it dont join in pretty simple...and its not just for members...hosts deserve this too

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blocking what?

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"To the first 20 matches (40 winners) CamContacts will grant $1000 of credit to Viewer and $1000 cash to Chathost!"

How about $1000 credit for the Viewer to get an airline ticket and $1000 for the Host to entertain the member? Assuming it's mutual, of course.

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i would vote for that

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Because its the only way u can get a REAL girl?

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RE: shy lets do it....

sounds like a good plan....er..shit the 14th is a thursday...if it was a weekend i coulda done it..next year its a saturday...wait till then?

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RE: shy lets do it....

What about me, if he is resisting you?

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let me think about it ;)

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she already has more girlfriends than you can imagine

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it helped :D thx :p

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DOH' i forgot to take the pics sorry

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For fans of Poetry

Mozart is playing the old little violin,
Mozart is playing while his violin sings.
Mozart does not choose, for living, a motherland,
Simply, he plays all his life, as it is.

Well, never mind, that's the way we are destined,
Such is our fate: now we feast, now we fight...
Keep up your diligent efforts, maestro,
Keep meditating and feeling inspired.

Somewhere around our last destination,
Maybe, we'll thank our fate anyway,
Only I wish that our homeland's transgression
Wouldn't be turned to an idol some day.

Well, never mind, that's the way we are destined,
Such is our fate: now we feast, now we fight...
Don't give up hope, hold it out, maestro,
Keep meditating and feeling inspired.

Short are the years of our blithe adolescence,
Off they will fly and disperse, in a flash...
Camisoles, cuffs, golden shoes, silver laces,
Snow-white perukes, and a colorful splash.

Well, never mind, that's the way we are destined,
Such is our fate: now we feast, now we fight...
Well, let it be, don't pay any attention, maestro,
Keep meditating and feeling inspired.

1969
Bulat Okujava (Russia)
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too many big words in there for me to enjoy it sorry :(

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There once was a man from Bel Air,
Who was doing his girl on the stair.
When the banister broke,
He doubled his stroke,
And finished her off in mid-air.

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much better thx :)

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LOL

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it's ok :)
not necessarily everyone must enjoy :)

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Very nice, thank you. To continue on a theme:

from Ode to Beethoven

The heart's occasionally so stern
That even in love you daren't approach it;
And even in the darkened room
Of deaf Beethoven a fire burns.
Nor was I capable, tormentor,
Of grasping your excessive joy.

Osip Mandelstam

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wow...Osip Mandelstam :) Also one of the greatest...
thanks a lot :)

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No no...it was translated itno English by Alec Vagapov. I founded it out here

http://zhurnal.lib.ru/w/wagapow_a/okudzhavahtm.shtml

There are also 62 of his poems in English.
I adore poems and songs of Bulat Okujava (or Okudzhava) and was surprised that he is translated. Just so pity the poetry is losing some of its native charming and magic after translation...

What about this one very popular?...

GEORGIAN SONG

I shall bury a grape stone in the warm fertile soil by my house,
and I"ll kiss the vine twig and gather sweet grapes, my reward,
and I"ll call all my friends to the feast, and love in my heart I will rouse...
Otherwise, what"s the purpose of living in this lasting world?
Dear guests, come to table, I extend you my kind invitation,
tell me straight in my face the opinion of me that you hold,
God almighty will send me forgiveness for my transgression.
Otherwise, what"s the purpose of living in this lasting world?
Dressed in purple, my charming Dali for me will be singing,
dressed in black, I"ll sit bending my head without saying a word,
I"ll be listening enchanted and I"ll die from deep love and sad feeling...
Otherwise, what"s the purpose of living in this lasting world?
When the sunset starts swirling and searching the corners around,
May the images float, as if real, again, may them swirl
right in front of my eyes: a blue ox, a white eagle, a trout...
Otherwise, what"s the purpose of living at all in this world?

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Oh...I am speechless!
Who are you? I should know who loves me :))

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i can tell u it isnt me if that helps

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Ooo, I see you're really really pry, imshy :P
Ah, you almost made me cry, imshy :P
You would dare at least to try, imshy :P
If you wouldn't be so shy, imshy! :P

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wow...a poem just for me...now i am in love *BLUSHES*

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ok now thats just crap...dont love u :)

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Wonderful, LG... I think I'm falling too. I'd like to get to know you better :-)

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Thank you, darlingboy...
But first let me to know more about you...and then we will see :)
Also is it your real screen name so I could CCmail to you?

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RE: For fans of Poetry

LG... yes, this is my screen name, and please do cc mail me, at your convenience... thx darlingboy

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rules for a little shy

I have been a viewer for a while. have visited girls in a little shy many times. But recently was told no nudity except in one2one. Never heard this before so am asking is this norm now. If this is case then things have changed a lot.
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if a host DOES go nude in 121 what does that have to do with being shy?

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ive been to a little shy..and ive seen all....seems they are not a little shy

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as a matter of semantics, couldn't it be argued that both the labels "a little shy" and "not so shy" mean pretty much the same thing?

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In theory a host's show is supposed to be the same in open video as in one to one. The one to one option was to provide privacy so another member would not enter your video. In reality one to one is a method of charging for two classes of video. Many hosts will not do an open video period. Just one to one. LIttle shy has been wide open for years. Your show ranges from nothing but a smile to a beer can placed stategically.

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RE: rules for a little shy - definitive definition

A host is NOT REQUIRED to strip fully in Little Shy. She is even allowed to show nothing, if that is her choice. It is the most flexible category of all. This is why many viewers hate the category. In theory, there is no genital action. If she declines you must respect it.

Put most simply for the older American guys...
Little Shy - 1970s Playboy magazine
Not So Shy - 70s Hustler magazine

However, she must do in open video what she will do in 121. One-to-one is for the convenience of THE VIEWER not the host. Those words "only in 121" are not allowed to cross her lips. It is a direct violation of the rules.

However, the ambiguity of the category should be ironed-out before going into video. Once in the video you may get her to go further than originally agreed to, but that's on a case-by-case basis.

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RE: rules for a little shy - definitive definition

while this is nicely stated, i would add pictures should be an indication of show expected. if pictures show nudity then the expectation is that nudity can be done in open.

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EXACTLY!! But always confirm in text.

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I sympathise with your sentiments but that is a difficult one. I notice over the years that many hosts seem comfortable with sexy pics but are quite reserved in vids.

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Actually because there are no specific rules regarding shows in little shy a host is allowed to offer to show more in 121 there than she does in open vid.

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Actually the one hard and fast rule is that there is no difference in what is offered. CC told me that exclusive privacy is the main difference between a One2One and open sessions so the host cannot use One2One to elude from performing in open sessions.

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I can confirm this. I got similar message from cc as well as a credit for one host who tried this.

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Catch 22

I met this chathost who is married already. I like her. She says that the only way she can continue to meet me in future is if she swings with her husband and has sex with other guys/couples.

Then her husband will give me future meets with her alone. I know nothing about the swinging scen, whats involved, reasons to do it, sex or if its search for missing feelings...

Advice please on what to do?

thanks
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What's the saying - "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is"??

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doesn't pass the smell test, i'd stay away

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Did you ever hear the expression there are other fish in the sea? Seems like a lot of risk and hassle for what will ultimately wind up frustrating you more if you find you really have feelings for this girl.

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it does

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means you have to service her hubby in more ways than one

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RE: Another portion of rubbish. And yes, I was bored.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great job LuvRuShka! By the way I don't mind :D
So, fo Rusha it vil be just vundeful, anivai ve haf lernt tu rite Rushn vordz viz Latin letez if to put zem into Inglish spelin. Not big diferenz zen...loooooooooool

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rushka heard that b4 but still damn funny...and laughing girl....great reply LMAO :p

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LOL. Who are you???

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she aint gonna tell us :(

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if u liked me u'd tell me...bleh

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coz i asked u nicely :)

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probably but im a dumb fucker and need clues...like...YOUR NAME!!!!

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hmmm a friend of mine gave me an idea of u might b...i'll have to find out i guess...

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well i sent a ccmail to who my friend thought it was..take it that it wasnt u *CENSORED*

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new clue?

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that really narrows it down alot

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i do i do..but...c'mon gimme a break and a better clue

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wow thx..ok////do i know u..i mean have we talked and if yes do we talk regulary?

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faves only got a couple there and they romanians....as for my yahoo...hmmm...i have u in my yahoo???

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thats just like so not fair

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meanie pffftttt

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well thats the problem i dont know who u r..and i sent it to someone i never seen b4 and when she reads it DOH' she gonna think im a freak (yeah i know i already am) and btw...its "wayne" nice try tho :p

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well damn woman if i know u just tell me who u r

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why u gotta tease me? and the fact u know my name is a bit unfair...at least give me ur first name or initials

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loads of questions just none that u will answer :((

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nah got bored now...u probably a 65 yr old bird with saggy tits and no teeth

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oh my god shyster if this wasn't so funny it would be sad.all the answers you need are in the nick :--)

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:( i hate that i love someone

what to do to forget someone ?? :( i m lost , i m married , i shouldnt have fall for someone :( so wrong :( i met him on cc :( 4 months ago , he wants to marry me :( he doesnt know my situation :( XXXXXXXXXXXXX
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do u love ur husband? r u sure u love this guy? if u did "love" him as u say why dont u tell him that ur married and see if he stays or runs

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Don't worry, if it's just an online crush, I'm sure you'll forget this guy and stop caring for him much, much faster than you lost your love for your real-live husband :)
Hang in there and you'll fall in love again with someone even better any minute now, I'm sure of that too :)

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If you love him that much it will take a lot to forget. Just as you think you are over him, there will be some little reminder. A song, a mutual friend, and it all comes flooding back. There is no easy answer, except maybe to totally distance yourself from him but that probably means leaving behind everything and immersing yourself totally in you home life. But even this cannot be guarenteed. Good luck and best wishes.

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Too many will try to justify making a decision. You made the decision on the day you were married. Unless the husband is grossly abusive you are honor-bound to block this other guy from your Yahoo and from your cc Chats.

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Sounds to me like you love your husband and feel guilty about your secret rendezvous with this other guy... even if it is strictly online... and know it is wrong. Let me ask you this... do you really love this other guy? I mean the relationship between a husband and wife can become routine after being married for a while... maybe seem boring. Then this other guy comes along and it seems exciting because it is fresh and new. Maybe it is just the excitement of something new that you are in love with... the feeling of being thought of as sexy and desired and wanted again... cuz maybe you feel your husband doesn't look at you or think of you that way anymore like he did when you first met. Maybe you don't love this other guy... you just love reliving all those old feelings again. Maybe your marriage has gotten boring... but ask yourself this... if you went out your way to spend as much time with your husband, and flirted with him, etc., etc. the way that you have been with this other guy... wouldn't your marriage be more exciting? wouldn't things be better with you and your husband if you devoted that kind of energy and emotion towards your husband that you have been taking away from him to give to this stranger? i think you know you have to get rid of this other guy... a clean break...no "we can be friends" talk... end it for good with no further contact between the 2 of you... and focus your energy on spicing things up with your husband. i think you will be surprised at how great and exciting your marriage will be when you devote yourself to it and your husband and put the energy into it that it deserves.

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you are right..

but it could work out better and well life is short so we must try to make ourselves happy and follow our instincts. I would say, see how it goes. This could last five minutes or a life time.

Better to try than to regret for a lifetime what could have been

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Oh yes, please!! Destroy a marriage on a whim with a stranger from only four months in text.

Does the husband beat you? Is he a confirmed drug addict/alcoholic? Does he rent you to his drinking buddies to make extra money? What exactlymakes him a beast? If he's not a beast and you simply think he's boring then go to the mirror and check yourself. Maybe YOU are the boring one in the relationship.

Are you sure the member is single? Are you sure he wants more than a vacation sex affair? I know one formerly famous host here who believed such words and the guy was lying through his teeth.

Even as he said he applied for her visa and continued visiting her country for "benefits." Finally his wife called the host and asked who the hell she was. The host ultimately turned from a popular carefree girl into a bitter witch.

Don't sacrifice a real relationship based on a short text friendship. Frankly, I'm "in love" with about six chathosts (I never say "I love you"), but until we are together in real life nothing is real.

I am single. I am willing to build a real relationship if we want. I have no ex-wife. I have no kids or dependent parents. I am footloose and fancy-free, though older and not so rich.

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get off your high horse dude and stop speculating.

Life is about being h@ppy, try it sometime

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maybe speculating and riding high horses makes him happy.... who are you to try to ruin his fun?

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I am me and you are ??

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life is not as black & white as you paint it.even the fact that she is thinking of this points to the fact that the marriage is in trouble.this other guy may not be her love but it does show that her marriage is on shaky ground.if you build a house with foundations that are not solid,not amount of repair will make it liveable.it is the same with marriage.love is not a solid enough foundation to build your future on.there must also be trust,respect & honesty.they are the solid foundations of any long-term relationship.the husband doesn't need to have done any of the things you mentioned to end the marriage.the bottom line is if she can't see a happy,better future for her & her child,thinking of moving on is a sensible decision though the bottom line is unless we walk a mile in her shoes,we can't tell her what is best for her.only she can decide this.she must look into her heart & soul to know what is best & right for her & her child.no matter what her decision is in the end,she can be sure those who truly love & care for her,although not necessarily agreeing with her choice,will support her through good & bad.

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what gets me is people who define themselves by being in a relationship, like they're afraid of being independent and on their own or they need someone else to give their life meaning or something. makes them seem weak and codependent and icky.

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each to there own i would say... i think the counselor made the link to the thread below assuming this thread started is the same girl

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to "josephine"

Some of us like and want companionship and some don't have the abiltiy or desire to share our lives. Good luck in your loneliness. And if you say you are not lonely then you already have 'relationships' (whether you call them that or not) or you have a closed heart.

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liking & wanting companionship/relationships,doesn't mean we have the right to demand or cling,either.it is earnt :--)

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It is a sad person who automatically equates companionship and relationships with "clinging."

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it's a sadder person who tries to counsel,yet doesn't comprehend :--)

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RE: Happy Birthday Brock!

unfortunately at his advanced age, hot chicks, free vids and wet t=shirts might adversely affect his health but then again he;s unlikely to care about that part..........lol

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HEY, he's now TWO years older than i am

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npow he's going to get a swelled head.....lol

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yeah for what...another MONTH??? LOL

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and a half thank you

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health??? who cares....bring on the free vids with dancing hot chicks in wet t-shirts!!! and NO, im not sharing, B2!! lol

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that's just MEAN, cmon i promise to be nice to ya...now SHARE

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thanks Barb...and tell lil brock i will see him soon!! lol Kisses to u sweetie and look forward to seeing u too ;-)

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Thanks TINAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA kisssssssssssssssssss
;-)

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Thank u Wild and as for hot, cute chicks...where r U right now??? :-P

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happy bday brockyboy

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Dear Host in Adult Section,
Thank u for ur kind words. And if u really LIKE older guys, then u will certainly LOVE me!! LOOL Email me and we can talk lol

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Thank u Bridget...kisses to u,too!!! And i will share my cake with u. :-P

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Happy Birthday Brock! Always great to wish someone older than me Happy Birthday! Lol! Have a good one!

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thanks howie...its always nice to be older than others...but now it seems im older than almost ALL!!! LOL

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LoveRuShka, it was kinda loud but then u DO have to yell at us old guys so we can hear u! :-P Thanks for the greeting!!

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Very Happy Birthday brocky and many more to come but PLEASE stop calling yourself old! You's in your prime - I am the one who is old, remember? :-(

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who's that ?

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it's me

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Nina, now i AM blushing!!! Thank u for ur sweet words. U r truly a lovely and wonderful person!! Now, if i could only agree with ur kind words!! LOL KIsses and warm hugs to u, sweetie!

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Thank u Cara!!! And i do hope that when u mentioned "free vids" that they would be WITH the "hot chicks"!!! :-O BTW, what r u doing later today??? :-P

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Happy Bday Brockyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy(K)(K)(K)(K) Wish u all the best and dont forget to pass me a piece of ur bday cake))))

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Thanks Moni!!!! kisses to u sweetie...and here is a piece of my cake....i didnt even drop this piece on the floor!! LOL

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Thanks MyBrunette ;-) kisses and hugs!! :-)

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Awwwwwww so sweet ahaha=))=)) Have a good one (K)

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Nina!!! Kisses and Warm Hugs to u, sweet lady :-)

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Happy Birthday Borckkk ur not getting older just better.

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thanks dave...at least im getting better at getting old LOL

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glad to see you around answering all these post,, so here is another one for you-happy birthday who ever you are

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i am always around....u just cant see me sometimes ;-)

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how do i feel at 160??? about 1 year older than 159. :-P thank u, annabunny :D

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Mobile Phones ........

I am fairly new to this site but already have had two one2one videos interrupted by mobile phone calls to the host! The mobile phone may be a great invention and i could not run my business without it BUT when you are half way through a one2one video and the host takes a phone call it really changes the 'mood'! Then the host wonders why you are annoyed and want to leave! If I ran my business with that level of customer service I would not have a business anymore! Sorry to rant and rave!!!! Lol!
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Best solution is to call her on her mobile during the video...nothing beats a video with phone. Very personal and intimate or just out and out funny. In either case she can't receive calls if you are talking to her. Very inexpensive using international calling cards.

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RE: Mobile Phones ........

Cell phones... THE DOWN FALL OF HUMANITY.

I HATE 'EM.

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RE: Mobile Phones ........

Another 10 years or so and all of humanity will come down with one big collective brain tumor..... And all the polar bears will rejoice.

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RE: Mobile Phones ........one way to earn a one-star rating...

Younger people are so committed to staying connected. Go somewhere and observe them checking their phones every few minutes, even if it doesn't ring. One guy even told me the girl checked the phone when it rang during sex with him.

Tell her straight out when she reaches for the phone that itnis not acceptable if you are paying for video. If she doesn't immediately hang it up (or offer you a make-up session at a reduced rate) then express your displeasure in text, log off, give her a one-star rating and complain to CC.

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RE: Mobile Phones ........

Ahhh, but what you must remember is, these calls are VERY IMPORTANT. It is studio boss or Mom and must be answered, no matter what else is happening. No way should you get the wrong idea that it is a boyfriend or another customer wanting phone or to arrange an appointment. That would NEVER happen here.

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RE: Mobile Phones ........

Yeah right.

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RE: Mobile Phones ........

It could just be her friend arranging a meeting later or mom telling her to bring bread home. I don't care if it's 100% innocent, she's on my time so she earns one star.

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RE: Mobile Phones ........

I agree with you BlueMoon. If a phone is answered I leave as soon as possible on a 121. Phone messages can be left so that the host can call back the caller later. I do not visit that host after that.

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